i think we cant we comapre AR rahman with Beethoven...Beethoven is one of the greatest...probably the greatest...I love AR Rahmans music too...but many countries have artists like AR rahman who compose equally brilliant music...so in my humble opinion i think only time will tell(a few centuries past) whether their music will be as much appreciated as Beethoven's today.
ARR at his best,this video is another great example of his music brain,if u notice the beginning of this song it wud hav sounded very ordinary but with the simple chords and by sustaining them in the second part it sounds totally different,if u hav som kind of music knowledge u wil notice that the chords he used here r all primary chords but it sounds so melodious,v all somtimes think that te chords he uses r very complicated but thats not true and this is a great example for it,thank u AR ji
I CAN'T FATHOM THIS AT ALL - THIS VERY MEDIOCRE PLAYING BY ARR HAS RECEIVED 144,000 VIEWS WHILE THE GREAT MSV'S HIGHLY SUPERIOR PIANO PLAYING HAS GOTTEN JUST 3400 VIEWS...
NO OFFENSE TO RAHMAN... BUT SEE THIS OTHER MASTER AT WORK AT 82 YEARS OF AGE... SEARCH FOR - MSV UNPLUGGED - CREATOR'S GOLDEN FINGERS ON THE GRAND PIANO!
God why do people fight over music, musicians and genres of music ?!? I just dont get it !! it doesn't matter how experienced a musician u are or how much u know theoretically or practically abt music, or whether u undstd music at all...@the end of the day if u cant respect diff genres of music and compare one genius to another...then I dnt think u've understood music at all....
I don't think you understood the exchange. To compare this to Beethoven was wrong. Plain and simple.
There are two aspects to classical music - one is aesthetic, the other is intellectual. To understand the latter, you have to study music. There is no way round it. AR compositions contain an intellectual aspect which only an ignorant person would compare to Beethoven.
I never said AR was a bad musician, but even AR would disagree with the comparison if he really understood Beethoven.
I didn't say I was "highly productive" (whatever your subjectivity takes that to mean), and your anecdotal evidence (n = 1) is embarrasingly meaningless.
I suggest you re-read my comment again in its context, because your reply here suggests you entirely missed the point.
I have no problem with you calling him a genius in his genre/field. My only point was that he is not comparable to Beethoven. But if ARR is going to be called a genius, then Beethoven should be referred to as a God.
Beethoven? who cares. Western and Eastern systems of music developed and matured separately for centuries and continue to do so. Plus, both musicians belong to different eras. So what is this stupidity you're spewing? You think in the Hindu civilization, geniuses haven't expounded verse upon verse of carnatic tradition? AR Rahman is India's gem, but he can't compare to its carnatic masters of past and present. It's rediculous that you drag Beethoven into this, but God too? stupid, God is dead.
Are you talking to me? You do realise that I originally criticised the youtuber called "9849445536", who referred to ARR as "indian beethoven". I am in complete agreement with you - ARR is india's gem, Beethoven is not comparable, and carnatic masters are not comparable. I even agree that "God is dead". I'm both an atheist and fan of Nietzsche. But I patently used "God" as a metaphor here, like for example, "Oh my God, why don't people read comments properly and in context before replying?".
The whole Beethoven and Rahman comparison all depends on who and how they are comparing them......for example for me both their music appeal to my heart in similar ways so you have no right to criticize someone's comparison since we r all unique and are their music appeals to us in different ways.......on other hand he is still known as the "The Mozart of India", while many experts agree Mozart was a more talented and "perfect" composer while Beethoven was more revolutionary. Rahman is both :)
I have no issue with you saying that they both appeal to your heart - that is the aesthetic difference I referred to. But only Carnatic masters should be DIRECTLY compared to Europe's finest from an intellectual perspective.
Anyway,this is why the West laughs at us; we allow ourselves to look as though we lag behind, whereas India invented a musical form which is truly comparable Western classical. But if people are too pig-ignorant and lazy to open their eyes, there's not much I can do really.
Um i am an westerner lol and i do not laugh at indians, the music is quite amazing, and i think what you are getting to is that indians do not respect their own art, which is untrue India (well what i have seen of it) flourishes with music, and music as i said before can be compared in many ways there is no actual boundaries, and if there were then its not truly art now is it.........and so i rephrase what i said before Mozart was the "Rahman of his times" :) peace
Um, I am a Westerner too lol. That wasn't the point of my comment. If you think there are no boundaries to art, then I should crash some pots and pans around and sell it to you. Anyway I can't really explain neuroesthetics to you on here, but you may be interested to look it up. Anyway, I'm happy to agree to disagree. Peace back to you :)
but that doesnt make sense because of the fact that ar rahman and beethoven are from totally different genres and both of them have a different form of composing their pieces..so there is no comparing between the two their both great.
As a Sri Lankan Tamil neurosurgeon, who has studied musicology formally, taught practical and theoretical music, performed mridangam, keyboard and pianoforte for the past 25 years, including performances on Deepam TV and TTN Tamil channels, I think you should perhaps find out who you are talking to before making comments. That way you may avoid looking like a complete moron.
Thanks IndYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for Janam of AR Rehman.A true Muslim who gave a image to Indian Music and ISMAEEL strengthened the indian music-WHAT a creative ,melodious and SUPER SLOW songs by AR REHMAN.keep up
@arunchemba He had gone for the Muslim pilgrimage called Hajj. Its customary for muslims to trim their hair after performing hajj. Source of info: AR's interview with Rajeev Masand, CNN-IBN.
A R Rahman knows nothing about music. Fail.
qwertyisnocoolword 1 month ago
very bad.. y ppl like this video... nothing is good .... its a worst performance by AR
maninaan 5 months ago
superb!
vipkri 5 months ago
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AR Rahman is a Mother FUcker
yuvanrockstar 6 months ago
@yuvanrockstar ---u bastard
Adityavagunturi 5 months ago
@yuvanrockstar dai thevidia paya
prathinfo 4 months ago
HE's a great musician and an even greater human being rolled into one. I feel so lucky to be born in this era ( i was 12 when roja was released).
proudIndian786 7 months ago
i think we cant we comapre AR rahman with Beethoven...Beethoven is one of the greatest...probably the greatest...I love AR Rahmans music too...but many countries have artists like AR rahman who compose equally brilliant music...so in my humble opinion i think only time will tell(a few centuries past) whether their music will be as much appreciated as Beethoven's today.
husumable 9 months ago
ok can listen enjoy thats all.it doesn't come close to the heart.
christopher5057 9 months ago
So god
PhenixChocolat 1 year ago
GOD
keviv3 1 year ago
ARR at his best,this video is another great example of his music brain,if u notice the beginning of this song it wud hav sounded very ordinary but with the simple chords and by sustaining them in the second part it sounds totally different,if u hav som kind of music knowledge u wil notice that the chords he used here r all primary chords but it sounds so melodious,v all somtimes think that te chords he uses r very complicated but thats not true and this is a great example for it,thank u AR ji
mail2felix22 1 year ago
I CAN'T FATHOM THIS AT ALL - THIS VERY MEDIOCRE PLAYING BY ARR HAS RECEIVED 144,000 VIEWS WHILE THE GREAT MSV'S HIGHLY SUPERIOR PIANO PLAYING HAS GOTTEN JUST 3400 VIEWS...
karthi40 1 year ago
NO OFFENSE TO RAHMAN... BUT SEE THIS OTHER MASTER AT WORK AT 82 YEARS OF AGE... SEARCH FOR - MSV UNPLUGGED - CREATOR'S GOLDEN FINGERS ON THE GRAND PIANO!
karthi40 1 year ago
@karthi40 : i agree :)
nasskobar 7 months ago
very nice rehman
naqash79 1 year ago
udhaaammmmmmmmmmmm.......... raaabchikkkkkkkkkkkkkkk....... funtaaaaaaaassssssssssssss............. kamaaaalllllllllllllllllllll............. jamaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll................ dhaamaaaaaaaaalllllllll.....
bussss 4line line nahi ban rahi... :-p thnx Viya...
fariskhan143 1 year ago
excellent thala
shanmugam32 1 year ago
plzzz post the name of the song
crazyhunkapoorv 1 year ago
INDIAN MUSIC GOD = A R RAHMAN
Rakshot100 1 year ago
i don't understand tamil.. but i love when he says "o yuva yuva"
nightrockerdj 1 year ago
The Greatest Pleasures in life is to see the Masters at Work!!!
hirocknavy 1 year ago 2
100/5 stars brilliant
TheAditya1212b 1 year ago
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A R is not is as talented as Rabindranath,
Probably he will not get a Nobel
Do not fuck NA
sekharraja67 2 years ago
@sekharraja67 he got the oscar....for sludog millionaire....do you imagine zat??????
jishtube 1 year ago
It was just the tune composition.
Look at the final product..Mr.Gnate
Rockerstohell 2 years ago
Never knew..there is a jazz tune in this song..! Awesome..hats off!!
heyhw5 2 years ago 2
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Oh god!!.. this sounds sooo bad for an OSCAR winner!!
gnate 2 years ago
poda ideot....he is living legend da...vennai..
anupama1992 2 years ago 4
wtf gnate noddle shit....... get a life , if u hate this video......
21mattafixy 2 years ago
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HAhaha yah u fuckers will even eat rahmans shit for that matter...
I am a producer for living, and i know when i hear a good song from a bad one... Unlike u fellas..dumb ass..hahahah
its ok.. music is subjective anyway...and for us the industry, rahman is a joke.. we just be in good terms with him to make money of his name..
enjoy guys...chow
gnate 2 years ago
fuck u shit gobble ... i'm a composer , i knw wat is music.....i knw wher rahman charts.... u may produce shit but ain't knw a fuck abt music ....
21mattafixy 2 years ago
ROFL funny, because i feel like you're a joke to rahman. and you should reconsider your career choice.
theashdude 2 years ago
@gnate ur one fck ollll..
apsr295 1 year ago
No probs! :)
divya418 2 years ago
awesum.......the best
vestajaisy 2 years ago
Super!
utubesanjay 2 years ago
His chord progressions will make him unique forever...........
aarunanjay 2 years ago 13
true ! awesome at 0:29 !
pradeepanisonline 2 years ago
@aarunanjay WHAT CHORD PROGRESSION DID U SEE IN THIS PIECE OF...ERR...MUSIC???
karthi40 1 year ago
gooddd.......................not bad
srpthegreat 2 years ago
awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54spiritedwill54 2 years ago
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what is this ARR, you using JAN GAN MAAN in such a way, what this mixture?
Gunjan139 2 years ago
did you get reply from ARR?.. i guess he didn't used the JANAGANA MANA, the sanskritized bengali song written by Tagore.
evadoentoo 2 years ago 3
superb dude
karthik9may 3 years ago
this is NOT bethoven :|
rkoroxx 3 years ago 4
God why do people fight over music, musicians and genres of music ?!? I just dont get it !! it doesn't matter how experienced a musician u are or how much u know theoretically or practically abt music, or whether u undstd music at all...@the end of the day if u cant respect diff genres of music and compare one genius to another...then I dnt think u've understood music at all....
peace
namita9012021 3 years ago
I don't think you understood the exchange. To compare this to Beethoven was wrong. Plain and simple.
There are two aspects to classical music - one is aesthetic, the other is intellectual. To understand the latter, you have to study music. There is no way round it. AR compositions contain an intellectual aspect which only an ignorant person would compare to Beethoven.
I never said AR was a bad musician, but even AR would disagree with the comparison if he really understood Beethoven.
jpararaja 3 years ago
I didn't say I was "highly productive" (whatever your subjectivity takes that to mean), and your anecdotal evidence (n = 1) is embarrasingly meaningless.
I suggest you re-read my comment again in its context, because your reply here suggests you entirely missed the point.
jpararaja 3 years ago
did u see the background score of ar rahman in slumdog millionaire...it was spectacular...AR Rahman is a genuis
rbsathish123 3 years ago
I have no problem with you calling him a genius in his genre/field. My only point was that he is not comparable to Beethoven. But if ARR is going to be called a genius, then Beethoven should be referred to as a God.
jpararaja 3 years ago
Beethoven? who cares. Western and Eastern systems of music developed and matured separately for centuries and continue to do so. Plus, both musicians belong to different eras. So what is this stupidity you're spewing? You think in the Hindu civilization, geniuses haven't expounded verse upon verse of carnatic tradition? AR Rahman is India's gem, but he can't compare to its carnatic masters of past and present. It's rediculous that you drag Beethoven into this, but God too? stupid, God is dead.
unnst 3 years ago
Are you talking to me? You do realise that I originally criticised the youtuber called "9849445536", who referred to ARR as "indian beethoven". I am in complete agreement with you - ARR is india's gem, Beethoven is not comparable, and carnatic masters are not comparable. I even agree that "God is dead". I'm both an atheist and fan of Nietzsche. But I patently used "God" as a metaphor here, like for example, "Oh my God, why don't people read comments properly and in context before replying?".
jpararaja 3 years ago
The whole Beethoven and Rahman comparison all depends on who and how they are comparing them......for example for me both their music appeal to my heart in similar ways so you have no right to criticize someone's comparison since we r all unique and are their music appeals to us in different ways.......on other hand he is still known as the "The Mozart of India", while many experts agree Mozart was a more talented and "perfect" composer while Beethoven was more revolutionary. Rahman is both :)
yeah2furious 3 years ago
I have no issue with you saying that they both appeal to your heart - that is the aesthetic difference I referred to. But only Carnatic masters should be DIRECTLY compared to Europe's finest from an intellectual perspective.
Anyway,this is why the West laughs at us; we allow ourselves to look as though we lag behind, whereas India invented a musical form which is truly comparable Western classical. But if people are too pig-ignorant and lazy to open their eyes, there's not much I can do really.
jpararaja 3 years ago
Um i am an westerner lol and i do not laugh at indians, the music is quite amazing, and i think what you are getting to is that indians do not respect their own art, which is untrue India (well what i have seen of it) flourishes with music, and music as i said before can be compared in many ways there is no actual boundaries, and if there were then its not truly art now is it.........and so i rephrase what i said before Mozart was the "Rahman of his times" :) peace
yeah2furious 3 years ago 3
Um, I am a Westerner too lol. That wasn't the point of my comment. If you think there are no boundaries to art, then I should crash some pots and pans around and sell it to you. Anyway I can't really explain neuroesthetics to you on here, but you may be interested to look it up. Anyway, I'm happy to agree to disagree. Peace back to you :)
jpararaja 3 years ago
hehe nowadays pots and pans do sell......u cant deny that lol
yeah2furious 3 years ago 2
lol very true, sir :)
jpararaja 3 years ago
but that doesnt make sense because of the fact that ar rahman and beethoven are from totally different genres and both of them have a different form of composing their pieces..so there is no comparing between the two their both great.
jdmdrifts 3 years ago 5
I agree. So the person who made the comparison in the first place is wrong.
jpararaja 3 years ago 3
what should i say??? ur da best..love u ar...keep on rockin
soundkilerz 3 years ago
As a Sri Lankan Tamil neurosurgeon, who has studied musicology formally, taught practical and theoretical music, performed mridangam, keyboard and pianoforte for the past 25 years, including performances on Deepam TV and TTN Tamil channels, I think you should perhaps find out who you are talking to before making comments. That way you may avoid looking like a complete moron.
jpararaja 3 years ago 3
which language is tthat???????????
frazblue2 3 years ago
its tamizh (or "tamil" )
narutv 3 years ago
hes mint
weshy123nufc 3 years ago
astounding.... arr-indian beethoven
9849445536 3 years ago
im out of words, hez just fabulous..wat more can i say about him...
zameerqdr 3 years ago
he is the man musiic and the magic
hunk342 3 years ago
hes so freakin awesome man!!!
nama elam kuduthu vachirukanum!!!
KishManz 4 years ago
SUPER YENG!!!!!! What a song. I'm not the owner of this account.
darklicious89gash 4 years ago
Oh my god! I got no words for A.R Rahman! T.T I LOVE HIM
!
NishaSingsHSM 4 years ago
Yeah!!!.....He is fantastic....Genius!.... :)
divya418 4 years ago
Thanks IndYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for Janam of AR Rehman.A true Muslim who gave a image to Indian Music and ISMAEEL strengthened the indian music-WHAT a creative ,melodious and SUPER SLOW songs by AR REHMAN.keep up
MujahidAli100 1 year ago
my bloody god!
steam16 4 years ago
awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kunalrajan 4 years ago
awesome
vinmayur 4 years ago
nice vid..
what happened to ARR's long hair?
arunchemba 4 years ago
this vid of him is from a while back.... i guess he had short hair then..... :)
divya418 4 years ago
@arunchemba He had gone for the Muslim pilgrimage called Hajj. Its customary for muslims to trim their hair after performing hajj. Source of info: AR's interview with Rajeev Masand, CNN-IBN.
proudIndian786 7 months ago