wacom 21" Cintiq & Ted Belton

[Elzandor]

How long is the delay with the mark? It's hard to draw if the mark comes more than half sec late...

[DaBurntToaster]

high end monitor? 550:! contrast ratio is NOT high end

[tlowk805]

Does it come with photoshop pre installed

[AgurlNamedNaruko63]

i have a question. i draw mostly on pencil and paper and good at coloring in acrylic, copic ,colored pencil, and pen and ink but not digitally . Should i keep practicing on the Bamboo and slowly move up to the Cintiq or just go straight to it?

[PapaLongLegs]

I wish they made one between the 12wx and the 21ux

[CigarettesAndCrap]

Por qué soy pobre? Por qué?

xD

[bio419]

wuld you recomend this device to a person with a pretty low income, or wuld you sugest the cintiq 12?

[xiaogabe]

@bio419 It all depends on the need. If you NEED a tablet right now, then get the 12 if you can afford it, if not, wait one more year or by whatever time you can to get the 21, it's what I'm doing.

[RyanLkirk]

Damnit. I can't see the video. My eyes jizzed everywhere.

[BigBadNightWolf]

DO. WANT

[vampireknightloverrr]

ohh god i want one sooo baad~

[Emzo99]

I have 10000 Pounds, university fees or this? Hmmmm...

[hellouimprincess]

@Emzo99 oh gawd u even ASk. OF COURSE THIS xD

[Emzo99]

@hellouimprincess Aha ok!! :P

[hellouimprincess]

@Emzo99 no I was just joking, you should go to university :) this is just a object, it cant replace the knwoledge :)).

[Emzo99]

@hellouimprincess I can always pay off the university fee in the same way everyone else does! :)

[superlovenikster]

I want it so bad

[Yellowknight888]

Where can I get one of these older version of cintiq, I heard the new one is nothing really outstanding comparing to this one, but cost 1000 more.

[desiraejean13]

I have aserious question, can you use different drawing programs with it, or it specifically used for one program, and do you have to buy the pens sererate or does one come w/ it. Also, does it double as a monitor, or do you need a seperate monitor?

[TedBelton]

@desiraejean13 you can use the tablet for anything you can use a mouse for, but the pressure sensitivity only works in certain programs (like photoshop, painter). It comes with a basic pen (like the one in the video), but you can buy specialty pens from wacom. And it works as a monitor as well.

[daryl74]

Is the 21" cintiq worth the price over the 12" cintiq?

[menotspeakenglish]

2:43! no finger! ew.. :)

[NikiNuratic]

i was thinking of buying one of these but i dont know. I either want this or teh laptop my sequental art teacher has. Its a laptop with a swivel screen that you draw directly on.

[rozzete1]

Let´s start save some money . I MUST have it.

[rockstarhinata]

At 2:32 he mentions that there is an apple drwaing tablet what is it. PLEAZ TELL ME ITS NOT THE IPAD!

[TedBelton]

@rockstarhinata i was misinformed. at the time that this was filmed, it was widely discussed that the rumoured Apple tablet would be a pen display, not a multitouch. Sorry to disappoint. I shouldn't even have mentioned it.

If you aren't already aware of it though, you should look into the Axiotron ModBook.

[rockstarhinata]

@TedBelton OK thanks cause im just a beginer and i dont need anything fancy BUT i need a tablet where i dont have to look up and the screen and and do random movements on a pad

[deltalead89]

AY! YO! USE DAT CARD MAN! DIS MONITOR GONNA BLOW YA LAPTOP MONITOR AWAY.

[DavijoBoy]

Getting the 12wx model next month.

[dzontraworld]

Nice!!!!!!!!!!!

[adsweaty]

i lve how he mentions how much we CAN get off but he dosnet mention how much it costs!

[CrysKnife77]

Hmm, if I had 2 grand to shell out I'd totally get this bad boy!! This is probably the most amazing tool to draw with, I have ever seen..

[MrAnimated]

what type of brush is he using??

[du6167]

well, you can actually but a used one derectly from wacom website. The sell displayed or test ones with discounts. Not totally cheap, but still more affordable =)

[Photoshoptuts91]

I just got one of these, It is worth every penny! I LOVE IT. The quality is unrivaled!

[dingostorm11]

I've always wondered if this thing was completely independent with it's own processor or if it's just an extension of your system with a tablet display?

[Photoshoptuts91]

It is completely independent, It is a second display.

[Noyore]

it's an "extension of your system with a tablet display". no processor you can't install on OS on it or anything. It's just like any old monitor you would plug in, only you can touch it.

[d1123w]

@Photoshoptuts91 What are you using it on, a mac or a PC. Does it lag?

[Photoshoptuts91]

Mac, and there is no lag.

[d1123w]

Thanks, and is there another way that I can get this without paying $1999?

[Photoshoptuts91]

No... sry :(

[fullmoonnight]

@d1123w you can try a five finger discount :P XD lol

[Creampie0118]

Looks great! Still bad you have to use your keyboard. there should be a ring like navigation on the pen or something.

[MariaFoorland]

Quick sketches, maybe?

I want one too, but I'm not so good as he is :P

Expensive, but if you have the money, and love to draw, then I'd say: Go for it :3

[TrickingFO]

uh .. if it weren't for the money, I would totally have had one of these by now ;)

[TheKeatan]

Time to get into bank robbing i guess.

[LubberOfLust]

Omg me too.

[randomKiMi]

im gonna start off with the wacom bamboo before getting a cintiq

[lordvalgarX]

@randomKiMi

FYI, its a lot different using a cintiq as compared to a pen-tablet.

Cintiq is worth getting if you are interested in creating digital art at a professional level, mainly because its a lot faster than using a pen-tablet, your workflow speed will increase GREATLY.

[LANmineTFC]

talent is more important than having the most expensive stuff, but DAMN would i love one of these :b

[AmurgAprins]

Learn to draw before you buy some expensive stuff like the Cintiq,I've seen many 13-15 year old kids that can draw better and are more creative.

[pickitrm]

@AmurgAprins wow really you really had to say something like that was it really worth it *~*

[AmurgAprins]

@pickitrm Well, check cgsbgs channel see what a real artist does with cheaper instruments,the guy in this video is a joke.Watching this video is like listening a dude play same 2 notes on a 2500 $ guitar .

[pickitrm]

@AmurgAprins uh.................ok

[pickitrm]

@AmurgAprins ok hes awesome but ya know everyone has there own type of style like realistic drawers, cartoon drawers and others just because he draws cartoons with less detail doesnt mean hes not good *just sayin*

[AmurgAprins]

@pickitrm I agree with that , realistic drawing can be only an exercise of skill , there are plenty different styles to explore ,all are great ,none is the best.But my first comment was an advice for people who have no idea about drawing and plan to buy a cintiq cause it looks cool.

[pickitrm]

@AmurgAprins oh yeah and if you want to see more of this guys work join us in ustream today ok and youll see how good he really is

[AmurgAprins]

@pickitrm  Thanks for the link, will check it out .

[BRAZILGOTSTYLE]

Who is the guy that said "every student should have 1" ??? Cuz he is right! This is totally freakin awesome! I'm only 14 and I'm already going to try to save money to buy this.

[paulteutuljunior88]

i think the wx12 is usefull when you got to be flexibel and have to use it at school or university oder what ever but if you just want to use it at home save your money and go for the 21". i talked to a car designer of mercedes and he said that the 21 is much better than the smaller one but he even prefers a normal tablet because the hand gets sweat while working on the warm screen but i still would prefer the wx21 =)

[bicilbrasiliano]

*.* beautiful,but is more expensive xD

[MrAlexDude]

I only have a Bamboo at the moment. All i can afford is the 12wx. Do you think it would be ok, I know the 21 ux is better but i can't afford it and i'm not really professional anyway

[Justenxster]

i have a question, would this be useful for a student looking forward to a Graphic Design career, while being a seinor in High School?

[thedigitalprofessor]

yes...

it's great... expensive...but great...

[Totocaca76]

yeah, I'm 16 and since 2 years I try to make money in order to buy this, and now I can :)

[MrVidManiacMilo]

@Totocaca76 lol same

[maryamsm]

@Totocaca76 yah i got super excited and got a pricey wacom tablet, rushed the shipping and realize OH i can't draw! i thought it came with the skills but apparently you have know how to draw lol ;>_>

[borrrrego]

@Totocaca76 respect!

[ImaginationCrafts]

@Totocaca76 It's £!800 or for americans: $1999 Life you are officially fired,Due to not being fair...

[AngelWolf611]

@Totocaca76 WOW good for you I've been saving too and im half way to the smaller model and if i sell my crrent graphics tablet i will have enough for it but, good for you :D

[befrey]

i should wait when you graduate there will be a new one

[xiaogabe]

@Justenxster  To answer that with a bit more info, it is basically the best gadget you could get at the moment, although this one was already upgraded, so if you havent gotten one yet, there is a better version now.

[capoeiralife]

@Justenxster it is at every stage of your learning, if you can afford it at your age. But if you are a newbie at drawing PLEASE NEVER FORGET ABOUT THE FEELING OF GRAPHITE OVER PAPER. No matter how big are Wacom´s efforts to bring a sort of (tool-like) experience -it´s just never gonna be the same-

You have to know that the experience with a tablet or a cintiq is a direct response of your previous relationship with traditional surfaces like paper, canvas, wood, fabric, etc .

[Justenxster]

@capoeiralife thank you for the help

[xpez]

@Justenxster nah...you dont need this..you need PENCILS and real INK on Paper skills...

All of these tools were created to simulate real drawing tools...

if you learn with simulated tools...you will never have a crasp of what you're tools are emulating...

you wil be trapped in a digital aesthetic without understanding any alternative medium.

For example...you will never understand how different texture paper creates different marls, or how paint soaks into paper and how that effects emotion

[xpez]

@xpez anyway there is a whole universe of techniques and mediums to learn that these tools can barely compete with. The only advantage these tools have is the convenience of the computer...

Learn real world media first , pencils, pens, ink, paint, chalk, gouache, acrylic, whatever...and then you will have authentic motivation actually manipulate these synthetic tools to achieve authentic results...instead of digital garbage!

[hburger1235]

do they have one for mac?

[wiisocrazy]

all wacom tablets work for pc or mac

[BloodNekoGirl]

damn this is so cool!! i would love to know how to draw TwT!!

[Screamingdk]

how much does the largest one cost?

[TedBelton]

about $2000

[TedBelton]

well, it depends. i'm a pretty big person, so the 21 feels great in my hands and i can handle it pretty easily. the 12, for me at least, seems slightly more flimsy and i would probably be less likely to use it on my lap.

that being said, the 12 is certainly worth the money you pay for it. it's much more portable than the 21, but is almost useless as a second computer monitor, like the 21

i would buy the 12 for portability and the 21 for comfort and large working area

[mistakrazy]

A youtuber said that the 12 can't save pictures, because it's connected to the monitor through wires, is this true for the cintiq 21 as well?

[TedBelton]

as far as i know, yes.

[I514]

what? the Cintiqs are monitors, not computers. NONE of them save images :/  they just display like a regular monitor, and have tablet functionality. Youre thinking of a tablet PC, which arent half as good for digital painting as the Cintiqs.

[TedBelton]

Hey! That's me! :D

[kungfook1ll3r]

Hey ted, what brushes/settings are you using here?

[TedBelton]

if i remember correctly, for the inking and colouring i was using a 19pt 100% hard 0% spacing brush with 'shape dynamics' set to pen pressure, 'other dynamics' on, and smoothing and airbrush turned on. i think it was also set to about a 85% flow. i was switching back and for between brush and eraser of the same settings to sculpt the lines. it's sorta my basic set-up these days lol

hope that answers your question :P

[mistakrazy]

What would you suggest the cintiq 12 or 21?

I originally wanted the 21 although I'm afraid It might be hard to rotate because of it's weight when I place it on my lab, also that it might break easily..

The 12 has problems and is less updated, also I don't want to obtain it and want the 21 later.. although it's easier to rotate, i'm worried I will run out of space..

I'm already planning on getting a job, I just want to know which one is more comfortable..

[TedBelton]

well, it depends. i'm a pretty big person, so the 21 feels great in my hands and i can handle it pretty easily. the 12, for me at least, seems slightly more flimsy and i would probably be less likely to use it on my lap.

that being said, the 12 is certainly worth the money you pay for it. it's much more portable than the 21, but is almost useless as a second computer monitor, like the 21

i would buy the 12 for portability and the 21 for comfort and large working area

[I514]

the 21 is better imo, (its what I have) its nice and spacious, and Ive never had a single problem with it. The 12s are for people who cant afford the 21, dont have the space, or want it to be portable. I actually want to get a 12 in addition to the 21 so I can keep working with my laptop when I travel or go on a vacation. (lol, I actually like work :P) I just have to save up for a while first >.> lol