my father says that the armor wasn't enough to protect by british shells, but was enough to avoid the escape if you was inside when hit. During the training he send the tank in a ditch, and then was sent in cavarly were he was eager to serve. Fought against partisans in Greece, and he was take prisoner by them in 1942. After the italian armistice in 1943 he join the rebel against germany and lead a team of machine guns of greek liberation army distinguishing.
my father says that the armor wasn't enough to protect by british shells, but was enough to avoid the escape if you was inside when hit. During the training he send the tank in a ditch, and then was sent in cavarly were he was eager to serve. Fought against partisans in Greece, and he was take prisoner by them in 1942. After the italian armistice in 1943 he join the rebel against germany and lead a team of machine guns of greek liberation army distinguishing.
@canary11141 I have a neighbor was a tank driver in the armored division "Ariete" and told me that all these qualities of the Italian tanks did not have them
@91diabolik I heard what you said: did your neighbor drive an M13/40 Medio tank in the War? I've seen Italian artillery pieces and I think they are good.
@91diabolik Yes, The Italians built 2 forty ton tanks called Fiat 2000, but these were probably scrapped. Do you have Tank or Ariete museums in Italy.
@91diabolik It depends to what you compare them. Thinking to WWII we imagine Sherman, Panzer IV, Tiger T34, but these appeared in numbers late in the war. The Crusader had a good aspect, but was unreliable, and had only a 40mm gun until the MKIII (late 1942), the M3 Stuart was reliable, but had a useless 37mm gun, so the early Panzer III. The M13 and M14 were light tank for allied standards, but were good light tanks, with good armor and firepower. The real problem was the scarce production.
Give it back, its Italian history, along with the Maacchi fighter in the Aerospace museum.
FGalaxie 2 months ago
@FGalaxie Naw! Its the US's now, I think I will keep it.
canary11141 2 months ago
@canary11141 Yes i suppose when you are a country without culture or history, you have to leech of others.
FGalaxie 2 months ago
@FGalaxie Now Im really going to keep the Italian Tank & Machi fighter.
canary11141 1 month ago
@canary11141 Thats ok, ill just shit on the graves in arligton.
FGalaxie 1 month ago
Soldiers put sandbags on front, for protection.
pierix27 4 months ago
@pierix27 Yes, sandbags as extra armor, very cool, thanks for the data.
canary11141 3 months ago
my father says that the armor wasn't enough to protect by british shells, but was enough to avoid the escape if you was inside when hit. During the training he send the tank in a ditch, and then was sent in cavarly were he was eager to serve. Fought against partisans in Greece, and he was take prisoner by them in 1942. After the italian armistice in 1943 he join the rebel against germany and lead a team of machine guns of greek liberation army distinguishing.
64LI0479 5 months ago
@64LI0479 Thank you for the data, that is interesting.
canary11141 5 months ago
my father says that the armor wasn't enough to protect by british shells, but was enough to avoid the escape if you was inside when hit. During the training he send the tank in a ditch, and then was sent in cavarly were he was eager to serve. Fought against partisans in Greece, and he was take prisoner by them in 1942. After the italian armistice in 1943 he join the rebel against germany and lead a team of machine guns of greek liberation army distinguishing.
64LI0479 5 months ago
What shits of tanks that we had
91diabolik 6 months ago
@91diabolik No, Italian tanks are not shit-- they had good armor, good guns, they were designed well, but
where they needed 500 for a squadron, they only had 100.
canary11141 6 months ago
@canary11141 I have a neighbor was a tank driver in the armored division "Ariete" and told me that all these qualities of the Italian tanks did not have them
91diabolik 6 months ago
@91diabolik I heard what you said: did your neighbor drive an M13/40 Medio tank in the War? I've seen Italian artillery pieces and I think they are good.
canary11141 6 months ago
@canary11141 Some are good, most date back to World War 1
91diabolik 6 months ago
@91diabolik Yes, The Italians built 2 forty ton tanks called Fiat 2000, but these were probably scrapped. Do you have Tank or Ariete museums in Italy.
canary11141 6 months ago
@canary11141 we buried them to use only the turret...the armor is too light, but they are speedy....
valeriobert 5 months ago
@valeriobert Thats very interesting.
canary11141 5 months ago
@91diabolik It depends to what you compare them. Thinking to WWII we imagine Sherman, Panzer IV, Tiger T34, but these appeared in numbers late in the war. The Crusader had a good aspect, but was unreliable, and had only a 40mm gun until the MKIII (late 1942), the M3 Stuart was reliable, but had a useless 37mm gun, so the early Panzer III. The M13 and M14 were light tank for allied standards, but were good light tanks, with good armor and firepower. The real problem was the scarce production.
DogWab 6 months ago
@DogWab Unfortunately, the Italian war industry was not much in the forties.
91diabolik 6 months ago