Maine legislative hearing on same-sex marriage

[ArtakX]

So...if we can just allow them to get married & have equal rights/benefits like they deserve - we can focus on bigger issues - like Iraq/Afghan, Jobs/Illegal Employers/Climate Change, John/Kate Gosselin & will Gargamel ever catch those damn smurfs. Seriously people - bigger picture here....hey, anyone know if Warner Bros approved the new Superman Movie?

Oh yeah, let gay/lesbians get married because it doesn't affect our personal lives - unless you're fantastically bigoted.

[ArtakX]

Public school sex/health Ed. don't tell students that this is the only way to be - that you must screw like this - they don't teach any sexual lingo/positions - they don't even say you have to get married - they say that usually when a man/woman make a baby - they try to get married - not that they should - big difference. And for the minority in the gay/lesbian community that try to push their lifestyle in public schools - then you're hurting the overall cause by irrational claims.

[ArtakX]

The gay/esbian community isn't trying to force teaching their lifestyle in public schools - 99% of them don't advocate that - for the 1% that do - even members of their own community denounce that - simply because heterosexual lifestyle isn't pushed either - don't confuse sex/health ed with agenda pushing. Sex/Health Ed says if you put dick into vagina & jizz - good chance you make a baby - they then say don't do this unprotected due to STD's - pre-teen pregnancy & its consequences - thats all.

[ArtakX]

Again...for those of you opposed to gay/lesbian marriage - please tell me how their right to get married will directly affect your marriage? If your kid comes to you asking about their lifestyle - then you're free to explain it in anyway you see fit - could be bigoted, could be tolerant - your choice, no one can deny that. Your marriage license fees don't increase, it doesn't affect prenup standards or divorce standards - your house doesn't combust into flames - Why mess with their lives more?

[ArtakX]

Man...talk about a jilted lover. Thats some serious attention seeking. Ladies, this she-guy is giving you a run for the whole "scored women" cliche.

[ArtakX]

And given all the other problems that our country is facing - persecuting gay/lesbian community shouldn't even be on the list of priorities - they'll still get the same marriage licenes, sign the same prenups, susceptible to adultry/divorce - don't really know how their marriages affects our marriages - its still marriage with all the benefits & problems that go with it - when you cut through the bullshit - there is no reason to deny them the right to marry.

[ArtakX]

Wow...talk about behinds the scenes shit talking - well outside of that verbal battle - anyone against gay marriage without resorting to religion as your excuse for opposing it - because using religion just doesn't cut it - why would anyone oppose this?

[masterofdarkness2245]

What I do not understand is that so many religious believers seem to think they can justify their underlying hatred because a being in the sky commands them to.I just don't understand how that could possibly be seen as sane much less rational thinking.

[ArtakX]

I have to agree because if they drag religion as an excuse - then I can make references about oppression or how Jesus was never for taking the rights away from people or persecuting them & etc. - If its not religion I'm waiting for the Polygamy or Marriage with a tree/animal coming into place or adult/child marriage - keeping in mind that Mormons are for Polygamy while against gay marriage - trees/animals can't give consent nor are adults - same with the children - forced consent/not adults.

[masterofdarkness2245]

Even though they didn't necessarily agree with it they still showed respect towards me as did I right back to them.YOU are the only BIGOT here people like yourself are the true and only definition of THAT word seriously.

[masterofdarkness2245]

Do you think that I do not have proof of that lie you told about me? Yep I do I talked to few people here actually few months ago that were almost exactly like you.The only difference is they spoke from their hearts they showed great character rationality conscience compassion and understanding.

[masterofdarkness2245]

Prove I am a bigot dude seriously.

[masterofdarkness2245]

You prove nothing each and every time so you just continue to waste your petty little efforts on me kid:) Get help for YOUR rage and anger simple minded one .

[masterofdarkness2245]

Thanks for proving my point you hypocrite :P I just went over to your page and saw your response to me.Please save your pathetic attempts at trying to turn something around on me to yourself.You fail beyond miserably at every proving any point except MINE.Just how clearly unstable and unhinged people like yourself are.There was no rage nor hatred from anything I said on your page only something you totally lack:wisdom and common sense.Save your constant denials of being a bigot to yourself liar.

[ArtakX]

What exactly is the big deal if gays/lebsbian couples are allowed to get married? It doesn't affect heterosexual marriages - it'll actually improve the wedding planning business & all other things that are involved with it. This is about gays/lesbians getting married - nothing else right? I haven't heard a rational argument against allowing gay marriage - don't drag Jesus into this either for God's sake - because not every religion speaks out against gay marriage.

[masterofdarkness2245]

Prove your point or quit while you are ahead.Speaking of nutjobs once again HYPOCRITE do I use your personal pics in my bg? Do I find your real life picture and try to slander your character and reputation? Do I try to dehumanize someone like yourself as you fail to do to us? No I think not none of the above liar.

[AvaloNotsoJoyous]

@masterofdarkness2245 This is anna speaking would you please go to the butterflyscandal stream it is a link on that channel so just go to it so that i can talk to you. I am not a mean person so you dont have to worry. I am using johns computer and i will sign off of this channel and use his other channel to meet you at the stream thanks.

[ButterflyScandal]

@masterofdarkness2245 Hello there i just wanted to let you know that I am in that stream if you like to come because i would like to talk to you i am not going to get mad or judge you I just want to tell you something that my brother wants for me to say and its ok you can go to the stream playerxt should be there

[masterofdarkness2245]

Nambla is a madeup organization that promotes hatred towards the gay community and tries to make us look like the fall guy exactly as you do.Show me the statistics of gay americans who are pedophiles compared to those who are straight.Ever watched to catch a predator dude? Almost every man on that show was heterosexual they hardly ever had a gay guy on there.You are just completely naive and foolish period.Your ignorance speaks volumes and continues to sadly.

[masterofdarkness2245]

*yawns* Same old boring predictable you always trying to turn it around on someone else :P Not gonna work this time though dude please tell me why you believe your so called God would respect someone like yourself.Are you not going against his supposed commandments by the way in which you treat other people? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you and love thy neighbor not HATE them.Have you ever read those 2 passages in the bible hypocrite?

[masterofdarkness2245]

So one could easily just thank you kindly for pointing out to them that they are a pile of sticks please do keep that in mind from now on.:)

[masterofdarkness2245]

Faggots by the way has two different meanings if you didn't already know that.One is a homosexual slur towards those of the same sex the other stands for a pile of sticks.

[masterofdarkness2245]

As any heterosexual couple would do for their children also.Pedophilia is not related directly or indirectly to homophobia.Please show me your statistics of this if you believe this to be the truth otherwise you are just blowing smoke once again.

[masterofdarkness2245]

Also could you clarify what the connection is between pedophilia and homosexuality?There is no correlation between either of those if that is your narrowminded way of claiming that gay couples are unsuitable parents to care for children then you are absolutely WRONG.There are so many gay couples in this country who love and care for their children just as any heterosexual couple do.They don't touch their children sexually or in a perverted way they only hug and nurture them once again.

[masterofdarkness2245]

The way you go about it though is the problem with hatred disdain rage violence and hostility.How would you feel if you could not marry someone that you loved because you were the same sex to one another? How would you feel if you were denied that chance at happiness in this country? I know you wouldn't care and the fact that you show so much violence and animosity towards those who are of the same sex just proves which one of us has the true character and conscience not YOU sadly.

[masterofdarkness2245]

It used to be a taboo for people to marry outside of their religion or races but things have changed slowly but surely in all of those areas.You need to wake up and stop living in such a primitive narrowminded time you are not even living in this 21st century you are letting yourself be held back by your own ignorance period.I can't stand you in more ways then one but this is the United States of America and yes even you are entitled to your freedom of speech.

[masterofdarkness2245]

Things have changed there used to be segregation in this country.

[masterofdarkness2245]

How? In the U.S. many people have fought for their rights including african americans.There was once a time when people who were of color could not drink from the same drinking fountain as a white person did.

[masterofdarkness2245]

You automatically assume that people who fight back or speak out against injustice or bigotry or hate in this world are insane or angry.

[masterofdarkness2245]

I think YOU have already proven time and time how SICK YOU are period.How do you think you are a decent human being the way you treat people seriously? If you believe in your GOD did not this being teach love not hate? Did not this being teach people about solidarity and compassion and understanding towards your fellow man?You're the one who has serious issues especially the amount of rage hostility and hatred that you show towards those who are of the same sex.

[MysticChibiTigerGirl]

Love is when 2 beings WANT to be together. Do you honestly think the 9yo boy want that?

You are just proving my point. I never insulted religion at all, and here you are, being defensive about something I never said.

The world isn't normal. I never said it was. We're intelligent beings with culture and values.

Honestly, YOU out of most people here need to take a chill pill, and re-read the facts. I never said people should screw around. I never said laws shouldn't be here. Grow up.

[MysticChibiTigerGirl]

I think that love can be found anywhere. A religion cannot say who and what to love. It doesnt matter if it is between a dog and a cat, a cup and a fork, or even a seed and a cloud. Love is beautiful each way.

Also, I see alot of crazy Christian fanatics here! Yall need to chill out. Honestly, fighting over a video doesn't help anything.

[7779311TT]

I did not know the liberal people of Maine had so much pride and respect for their state. My hat's off to them! I might just move to Maine now as its beauty has been restored.

[7779311TT]

I didn't know the liberal people of Maine had so much pride and state for their state! My hat's off to the good people of Maine!

[ArtakX]

I mean seriously - infinite wisdom, cosmic power & understanding - you think God would go out of his way to condemn his own creations? They're not evil or demons or threats to humanity - Homosexuality won't destroy families - plenty of kids raised by gay parents who are straight - and vice versa. Passing an ammendment to take away their right to get married seems pretty fucking petty & going out of the way to fuck with someone's life.

[ArtakX]

Claiming to know what God's thinks about gays/lesbians getting married...sounds pretty stupid. In Hinduism - we don't discriminate against homosexuality - we don't promote it either but we don't condemn it. Really got to learn to mellow out a bit & not be so up tight - going to give yourselves a coronary or stroke. Same sex marriage isn't evil, its not going to destroy straight marriages or lead to a massive global population shift to homosexuality.

[ArtakX]

Wow...that is some of the stupidest shit I've seen in a long time - Gays/Lesbians are like Nazis? And why the fuck you would drag the currency part into this? It wasn't added until the 1950's both in the Pledge of Allegiance & the currency...for the roughly 150 years prior to that, the US currency had no reference to God on it. Anyways, its pretty presumptious to assume what a higher power is feeling about a particular issue - Don't Kill, Steal, Lie, or Hurt your fellow man - pretty standard.

[Scapemate]

This is a sad day in the history of America. You facist Christian pigs say you love your fellow man, but you don't let us marry even though it's been proven that we can't help who we are?

You make me sick. I hope God curses you all for your bigotry.

[MC2233z]

You Cant Ask A Criminal to Vote for The rights of another - in a struggling economy... Forget it. Never expect Anyone EVER - especially criminals to give you a better life.  There is NOTHING about Strait Criminals You want to mirror. Haven't you gotten that YET?

[ArtakX]

To the Gay/Lesbian Community - I'm sorry that you've had to endure yet another social injustice - but keep up the good fight, in time you will finally be treated equally - no one should be denied to right to pursue happiness under our Constitution - All forms of injustice still exist despite laws - but its still worth trying for. Others can see your plight & we'll try to help. The original law passed a few months ago had to be amended - so its progress, painfully slow I agree, but progress.

[darkfur35]

same sex marriage is evil...........

[MaryWaterton]

Homosexuals are like the Nazis of the 1930's. People tried to appease Hitler hoping that he would go away. Legally speaking, you can either fight them now or fight them later, but either way you will have to fight them. Democrats have publicly stated they intended to overturn DOMA and federally mandate "gay marriage" in all 50 states.

[rainbowheartgirl]

Mary, gay and lesbian people aren't Nazis. All they want to do is live their lives in peace and be able to protect their spouses and children. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

[compassionrepublican]

the people have spoken. God Bless America

[AgentsRecord]

Shut the fuck you stupid cunt.

God isn't real. You're a racist, homophobic bitch that rides her Jesus affinity into justification for your ignorant beliefs.

If people like you would had never got the wake up call slavery would still be legal in this country.

[compassionrepublican]

thats totally unfair. I do NOT hate gay folks at all, and in fact i know a ex gay fellow who goes to the same church. I do hate the sin as God does, but to say God isnt real is abomination and in fact the coin in your own pocket says IN GOD WE TRUST.

Im afraid youll have to live in MY reality for a change...and it may do you good :0)

[AgentsRecord]

Oh, what a load of horse shit.

You "love your gay friend" but think he should be treated as a second class citizen?

Your reality? Look, moron, I live in REALITY, not your so-called reality.

Open up a biology book. An astronomy book. A geology book. A social sciences book. ANY BOOK. You're wrong.

You sit there and espouse nonsense as though it is truth. You are used to some people who agree with you because they also filter nonsense before common judgment.

Open your eyes. Think rationally.

[compassionrepublican]

no actually youre wrong. I remember our pastors sermon a few weeks ago when some new pictures came out about space. The take away was, that science has failed its followers as they cant explain the before thier big bang nonsense. They have NO IDEA what was before the big bang. Well, the reason is that GOD was and IS the big bang! you are the one that needs to think rationally, cause in the end, if youre honest youll find Jesus...and you wont be given a nonsense answer like science gives

[cimorene6913]

No, actually, you're wrong.

I have to ask, was your 'pastor' explaining things before or after you gave him 10% of your monthly income? Well, I doubt it matters either way.

You see, science DOES have a rational cause for almost anything. AgentsRecord seems to have the right idea but he keeps from proving his point.

Ever hear of the HHC? Well, do yourself a favor and look it up. Once it kicks on and proves the Higgs Bosom you and your ignorant Christian buddies won't have a leg to stand on.

[AgentsRecord]

Well, I'm assuming you are a Brit. Over here we call it the LHC not the HHC. And we named the bosom the 'God Particle' and not the 'Higgs Proton'.

But I appreciate your intention. I just did not want to start speaking science to someone that obviously doesn't believe in science.

[compassionrepublican]

Its so sad to see how you belittle Christians then go about worshipping your science EVEN THOUGH its a dead end . I would laugh but actually i do pray someday you trun to the truth, the ultimate truth. There are PLENTY of "scientists" who ve realized God is the before of the big bang, and building another accelerator for billions while folks starve is really a desperate act .

[AgentsRecord]

Wow.

I'm done with you. You're officially retarded.

You don't believe in science?

Wow. That's PATHETIC. When your kid breaks his arm and you don't take him in for an X-Ray because that SAME technology is how we know the fossil record is accurate.

Okay. I'm done with you. You're officially brain damaged. You're too dumb to continue with any debate involving logic.

GO READ A FUCKING BOOK. (Yes, this include the bible which I guarantee I know more then you about).

[AgentsRecord]

You've been officially owned.

Hole up in your cabin and shoot anyone that doesn't look like you. Maybe in a few years your hate will once again be appreciated, like it was under Bush.

By the way, your husband should totally fuck and impregnate your daughters, ala Lot and his girls. A good 'Christian' woman like you should appreciate the bible endorsing incest.

Or maybe hate haircuts like yo do gays, like Leviticus does (in the same chapter you use to hate gays) in Leviticus 19:27.

[compassionrepublican]

yeah, ive laughed at how yall point to the next bigger accelerator, maybe the size of the planet ;0)- next time lol! Face it, science is a dead end.

[compassionrepublican]

ps, i know how liberals love to distort the truth, so to clarify, not all science is bad, but the WORSHIP of science like you types do is bad.

[AgentsRecord]

Hey, I have a funny joke for you to laugh at!

"People in science do things to try to prove things are true or false! Christians don't! We read from a book written THOUSANDS of years ago, made up from a few tales talked about by fearful citizens a long time ago (and leaving out certain gospels) in the Great Commision!"

Yeah. Your idea of understanding seems a bit flawed. WTF are your thoughts on the Dead Sea Scrolls?

Or have you even looked into this that much?

Doubt it.

[jlwelch]

Actually, the Dead Sea Scrolls contain the oldest known version of the Bible. When translated, they match up very well to current versions, eliminating the popular misconception that the Bible has changed over the years.

Christians and scientists both seek the truth, there is no battle between them. I am both. While science is still discerning the inner workings of the proverbial physics engine God made for us, the Bible provides us with the bigger picture.

[AgentsRecord]

Actually, the Dead Sea Scrolls, from what I have studied make up just under 1,000 documents.

How many gospels make up the bible? What? 17? 18?

That amounts to a lot of data being crammed into a single book. Talk to a Jew and you'll get even less then that since the Torah is essentially the first half of the bible.

By the way, several of the words written in the bible were accounts that were circulating through-out the Middle-East several thousand years ago.

Look up Horus.

[jlwelch]

I never said the Dead Sea scrolls "only" contained the Bible, I said they contain the oldest known version of the Bible. It doesn't surprise me that there is a bunch of other stuff too.

[jlwelch]

Actually, you are the one who is wrong. Compassionrebuplican NEVER said he "hated" anyone, only the sin. Furthermore, what would a geology, social studies, biology, or astronomy book say about the Big Bang that would discount what he said? God WAS the Big Bang (or he created it). Frankly, that is the only logical explanation.

This debate boils down to a matter of morality. Gays have equal rights (secularly) but for some unknown reason they want to lash out and defile marriage.

[cimorene6913]

So your argument to defend that God created the Big Bang is that because it hasn't yet been explained, some invisible Guy must have done it? No, that's not a sound logical argument. Just because you don't know how something works, does not automatically mean it's magic!

[jlwelch]

I never said anything about magic, nor did I attempt to defend a fact. I was responding to a claim that someone made about science disproving what it in fact supports.

Think about it. The existence of a painting is proof there is a painter. The existence of a house is proof of a carpenter. The existence of the universe is proof of the Creator by the same logic. Moreover, Jesus told us as much during His time on Earth. This is all pretty much established fact.

[cimorene6913]

Your religion is faith based...meaning it isn't based on fact. You have no proof that God exists. You have coincidences or mysteries which you cannot explain and the narrow-mindedness of religion inhibits you of attempting to understand it. It's so much easier to just say that God did it. Ignorance really is bliss.

Well, I don't believe the universe is a bloody painting or shop project. But by your logic, something created it. So...who created your "Creator"?

[jlwelch]

Actually, I do. It is called the Bible. It is the miracles Christ performed. The involvements of God (wall of Jericho, parting Red Sea, etc...). These are all historical events.

No one created the creator, He is the supreme being. There was never any point in time in which He did not exist.

Finally, the only truly ignorant one here is you. You flock to Satanism because you would rather rebel against God than accept morality. I have no desire to speak with you further.

[AgentsRecord]

What are you, a fucking retard?

Supreme being? You see, the EXACT logic you use to announce yourself as correct is self-refuting. What you are saying is 'intelligence comes from intelligent life' UNLESS that intelligent life comes from nothingness.

No, no, let's see how stupid you are here. You say only GOD could create life, but you also announce that nothing created god. If creating HAS to have a creator, then so does our 'creator'. So in a way... you agree with us 100%.

[cimorene6913]

Once again, bravo on your logic fail! Just because I don't believe in your beliefs does not automatically make me a Satanist or Luciferian (the people who actually worship Satan).

Regarding morality, I have much higher standards than my Christian friends and probably you. In my experience, the people who cater to organized religion are the meanest, most ignorant, and conceited people I've ever met. You speak of history, look back on the heartless, disgusting past of your religious ancestors.

[AgentsRecord]

Good point.

The Dark Ages. The Crusades. The Witch Hunts.

By the way, Cimorene is 100% correct. What you call 'Satanism' is actually deemed 'Luciferianism' (which is the acceptance of God but siding with the other side). And yes, being a Christian means you automatically 'hate' on gays, blacks, the poor, etc, etc.

Just try, and oh, I fucking DARE you to try and make a historical reference to Christians being 'good' in the biblical sense during American society.

[AgentsRecord]

Christian:

A pregnant woman should not or can not bare a kid = have it anyway.

The poorest communities in the US = Republicans voting NO on health insurance or social programs to help the inner city youth out.

Homosexuals having right = No! Fuck those faggots!

You dickheads are a PILLAR OF LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE!

[AgentsRecord]

So, in essence this your argument:

Nothing can't create nothing.

God created it all.

Wait, WHAT? If nothing can't create anything, then who the fuck created god?

You see, your logic is dumb-dumb baby shit stupid. You say nothing can create itself unless 'god' creates itself to create us.

Look up the second law of thermodynamics. Matter cannot be created or destroyed. The carbons and oxygen that WE, as humans, are made up of... were always there to begin with.

We simply evolved into humans.

[AgentsRecord]

HAHA!

Satanism? Listen here, Satanism doesn't exist like you think it does.

You see, Satanism (as a movement) started back in the 1960's when Anton LaVey wrote the Satanic bible. And these people were essentially Atheistic people who believe the word of man (AKA the Bible) should not be used as a post for human society.

See, when a dumb fuck like you says some incorrect shit about Satanism, how the hell can I conclude you know dick about the real bible? Ever read it? I doubt it... but I have!

[jlwelch]

Actually, you are the one who is wrong. Satanism is far older than the 60's. Paganism, Islam, Hinduism, and all other false religions are all examples of Satanism because by worshipping a false god they are basically doing what Satan wants (he is the one who led them astray).

Second, the Bible is the TRUE Word of God. If you even opened it you would know that. And no society should be allowed to exist without the Bible at its center. That is why the propositions have passed in all states!

[AgentsRecord]

Bullshit.

Show me a historical record of any beings who called themselves 'Satanists' before 1960. The best you have is the Grimoire of Honorious in the 17th century which is incorrect.

The Pagan character known as 'Baphamet' was actually the image used to annotate the image of 'Satan'.

Simply put, Satanism didn't exist until the 60's. They don't even believe in Satan. Had you done ANY research you'd know this. But Christians don't require proof; they only want what makes them sound right.

[jlwelch]

The proof is the fact that false religions exist. Islam is Satanism. Atheism is Satanism. Hinduism is Satanism. Any nonChristian religion is Satanism because it serves Satan by leading people away from Christ.

[MrEastsidekids]

Well Anailrecord we in the straight community wish you all the best with your lifestyle choices. If you want to be Gay, thats your business.

but for me you see,,, THANK GOD IN MAINE STATE WISDOM,, HALELUYAH GOD STILL SITS ON THE THRONE!!

[AgentsRecord]

Hahahah, I'm fucking straighter then an arrow. I love me some pussy.

But 2 boys kissing doesn't fuck my marriage up. And when 2 girls makeout... well, not a problem either. So I say to you... best luck with your insecure lifestyle.

Seems to me the only people hurt by YOUR lifestyle acceptance are you and hateful homophobic buddies.

[djcesare]

LOL ok

[djcesare]

lol why is it that the people against same sex marraige look kinda messed up or runned down or somthing. They look like robots but the poeple for same sex marriage seem to be more happy and free, just an observation.

[AgentsRecord]

I think Cimorene actually has your back, here.

I agree. And I'm sure he/she agrees with you. Don't worry about that comment, I think he/she is on your side.

[MrEastsidekids]

Thank God the Catholic Church is making a moral stand. The home is the last safe haven for the children. Once you remove the sanctity and safety of the home, you've got nothing left to stand on.

Support morallity,, support the home

[rainbowheartgirl]

Eastside, um, what about children like me? What just happened in Maine did not help *my* family. I happen to have two gay dads. Religious people say they care about children and families, but they don't care about us at all. All they want to do is attack us and treat us like we're inferior second-class citizens. It's not fair and it's not right. And I don't think it's something Jesus would do. I don't think Jesus would hate on kids of gay parents.

[MrEastsidekids]

I cannot say that I know what your going thru. I really dont. Jesus always told people,, and to this day, we have to stand up for holiness and purity. You are caught in a very tough situation, no doubt. Jesus christ will be there for you when you dont know quite what to do or say. Thankfully you will not have to remain in that home all of your life. No one hates you or your father. May God protect you and lead you. Take care.

[rainbowheartgirl]

Eastside, I'm not ashamed of my family. And you make it sound like I was being kept prisoner or something by evil, scary, gay people. Of course I don't have to remain in "that home" all my life. Actually, I'm an adult, and my brothers and I did what all other kids do -- we grew up and went away to college and got our own jobs and apartments. But having gay parents was not a "tough situation." We didn't "go through" anything bad. The only bad thing is dealing with outsiders' prejudice.

[ArtakX]

Well said...but honestly, they'll never understand because they don't know how to - its too difficult for them. Ironically it is the rest of us that hope they'll one day step away from ignorance...but don't hold your breath. There are plenty of people of various faiths who respect & support the rights for your parents. They can't fight the Constitution forever especially when it says "Life, Liberty & the pursuit of Happiness" - day will come when gay/lesbian couples will have equal rights

[MrEastsidekids]

Read a (bible) Anthrax. You point your boney finger at everyone else. If you were raised by a homosexual, and made it out of that home,, your grandma or an aunt must have been praying for you big time. You can bet someone was praying for you somewhere. Alot of good people fall prey to sexual preditors.

Donnie McKlurkin was molested when he was young, by a pervert, but Donnie got away from it,, and is now a great christian man, successful in gospel music. Thank god you got out then.

[ArtakX]

Hey...EastKiddiechildfucker...­thanks for sharing your little bitch ass opinion. I was raised by hetero parents & didn't need anyone praying for me, least off all dipshit motherfuckers like you. I'm just glad you didn't committ suicide like David Koresh requested, or any other crazy non-Christian bastards or go on a hate crusade like Pat Robertson & Jerry Falwell requested under the name of JC. I've read some of the Bible, its a good book, interpreted by stupid people(you). Praying for you man

[MrEastsidekids]

Whoohaa. I tell ya you might want to seek some serious counselling dude,, you suffering from cyber-rage. I dont usually find people on the Internet that are espousing your kind a bigotry and demonic rage. Seek counselling quick before you kill someone.

[ArtakX]

I'll take it under advisement you God fearing bastard...so sweet of you to care. Yeah cyber rage is bad but it doesn't hold a candle to your fucked up view on Christianity - Demonic rage...I like that. Its odd...usually its crusading motherfuckers like you that kill somebody in the name of God right? Since Gay people sin constantly - God says to put them down cause Jesus just loved murdering people huh? Listen fuckstick...if you gotta problem with comments - then just ignore them.

[ArtakX]

I on the other hand don't mind taking a couple minutes of my time to let you know exactly what a useless piece of shit you are - waste of life, yada yada yada. And since you commented first towards me - little piece of advice bitch...Don't start something if you're not prepared to hear returning comments - especially the ones that focus on your fucking moronic views towards life. Now all things considered I'm willing to take it a step further & say perhaps you'd have been a great aborted fetus.

[ArtakX]

You guys seriously give Christianity a bad name - you got just under 2000 years to your faith's name & still dragging it through the mud? The central figure of your faith Jesus left a very simple message of peace, love, tolerance & helping others - somehow you guys clusterfucked that up royally. Condeming others while hiding behind God is an act of hateful cowardice. You guys still got a lot to learn it seems - Jesus was a humble man - he'd never sit on a throne or consider his chair as one.

[rainbowheartgirl]

Eastside, you seem to have a *lot* of ignorance on the topic. There is nothing dangerous about having gay or lesbian parents. If you seriously think that, then you really need to educate yourself. Please google "APA gay parents" (no quotes) for all the research that has been done confirming that children of gay and lesbian parents are perfectly safe, as well as perfectly sane and well-adjusted.

[AgentsRecord]

Jesus didn't tell anyone a fucking thing.

Open a damn bible. Show me a gospel of 'Jesus'.

Oh, wait, you can't. Jesus is an astrotheological hybrid of many beliefs following the multiple religions of the Middle East 2k years ago.

Google 'Horus' and find the lovely story of your 'savior' a few thousand years before he 'existed' under the name of 'Horus'.

[ArtakX]

A good attempt, but you're wasting your time - too scared to change or attempt to understand - shame really. They won't understand what the science of "The Google" is - my advice is to use sock puppets, slur your speech if you intend to communicate full sentences & concepts to his kind.

[steerpike66]

The Catholic Church is taking up collections in Mass to finance the anti-gay vote in Maine.

CLEARLY ILLEGAL

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO TO LOSE YOUR TAX EXEMPT STATUS IN THIS COUNTRY?!

Does the POPE have to RUN FOR PRESIDENT?!

[MC2233z]

How Long do we have to fake that this is "VACATIONLAND"? NO on1.

[gmar55]

As a devout Christian once outraged by anything non-Christian, education and travel revealed the complicated world God created. I believe that truly honoring God is not by being judgmental, for that is up to God. It is through love and faith of our Lord Jesus Christ. The more sincerely kind and loving we are to one another, the more we promote Christianity. I may not be for same-sex marriage, but if it is truly against Gods will, then that is up to God, not any of His humble flock. God bless!

[Worldofchange]

HAHA 1990gmcjimmy, your a stupid fucktard. Im assuming your a mysogynist douche who is around the age of 18 or 19 and have your head up your ass. and if you think the way you write about this issue than its obvious your parents have failed you, horribly.

[lovemoviesful]

Go Maine! I hope California will see what's right and what's wrong, and follow the right path to full equality for all. I hope 2010 will be the big change for California, keep up the fight for equality, the angels of light is shining upon those that fight for what is right.

[ma7799]

The people of Maine will vote on this in November and it will be overturned.

[Kelso016]

Vote No on 1:Protect Maine Equality!!!

[standformarriageme]

Support fairness for all. Stand for marriage (equality), Maine!

[JoeyBoya]

Its weird to see a young women opposed to gay rights!! Just a thought just weird not that i didnt think it existed just that it seems strongly uncommon

[1990gmcjimmy]

damn man you cant have two guys with a kid thats fucked up. they might be nice and shit but that kid is gonna be insane. and seriously who gives a shit about dykes unless there bangin. thats what its all about

[rainbowheartgirl]

Jimmy, why would we be insane? I have two dads, and I'm not insane. Neither are my brothers. There are millions of people out there who have gay or lesbian parents. We're just the same as anyone else.

[iamther]

are their names pat fits gerald or gerald fits patric i feel your shame and theirs at least you wont have any more brothers. you are not the same as me my parents were heterosexual

[rainbowheartgirl]

Iamther, my shame? On the contrary, I'm very proud to be part of my family, and I love my parents very much. It's sad that some people seem to think that your love for your parents should depend on sexual orientation. Family is family, and family should stick together no matter what and not let silly things come between them. Why am I not the same as you? I think I'm just the same -- except maybe I'm less prejudiced.

[1990gmcjimmy]

aww mannn. this sucks. gays can get married and have kids, dom deluise dies,and i still dont have a job. whats next world war three. oh wait nevermind

[djcesare]

lol ya. your right. so it doesnt matter what you think cuz iran is gonna blow you up anyway hehehe. geez i cant imagine why, ignorance maybe? everyone move the the land of logic.. CANADA!

[ADROKMCA]

Allow gay marriage but don't allow divorce. We'll see how bad you want it then!

[Rabukurafuto]

1:06 Buddy come back when you got that broom stuck up your ass removed.

You go Maine!

[TreeHuggingPenguin]

Rockland kids?! Hi!!!

[thelousyllama]

Marriage only for procreation and having children.... That means all those man and women who cant have children, SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED

[Abcflc]

wtf??? hahaha

[awesbtns]

I like how you saw both opinions in this vid =)

[laughlovelearn]

yay MAINE! and um... marriage is for procreation? what about people who dont want kids? or if people cant have kids should they not get married? please tell me then you dont use birth control because you are hindering the potential for life. and every time you have a period... what a waste.

(sarcasm above...except for the yay maine part)

[TheWeddingProducer]

People who oppose gay marriage because they believe it should be between one man and one woman are complete idiots! If they truly believed that then why don't they become part of a movement to ban divorce? This issue is SO ridiculous I can't even believe millions of dollars has been spent supporting or opposing it.

[yaoiking16]

Wooo!!! Gay marriage for the world!

[Permaglo]

Hooray for Maine!  Finally states are getting on the common-sense bandwagon!

[rasaxSF]

Way to go, Maine! It's an impressive step forward. Congrats to those who now have the right to decide what's best for themselves.

Liberty and justice for all.

[hayseman]

Well its official! Maine is the 5th state in the U.S. that allows same sex marriage!!! YAY!!!

[pimpmonkette]

i was there!!! i wonder if i can spot myself!!

[buddy51]

God bless Maine. You are on the right side of history and you can be proud of your forward-looking stand on this issue. Young people "get it." Older people don't (generally speaking that is). In a hundred years, people will look at this clip as a quaint artifact of a bygone era, but those in support of equality will be honored for their position. Cheers from "backwards" California. You have shown us up big time.

[BODLive08]

women from :25 to :39 who speaks her mind is gotta be on satans most wanted list

[lynnosburn]

Jesus died for our sins...lets not waste it. '

Im sorry that was bad. But in all honesty he died leaving behind a message of love, respect and equality amoung all Gods children. What better way to honor that than to respect the love of two people no matter if they cleft or dangle together.

[TheWeddingProducer]

I'm not a very religious person but I must say...well spoken!

[lynnosburn]

Thank you.

[BODLive08]

how can our country allow such immoral acts

[cookjeff1]

I agree. Marriage is and should be a sacred institution. Gay marriage is absolutely immoral and goes against God's will.

[BODLive08]

Amen

[lynnosburn]

Love will always be Gods will. Love will always be moral.

[Permaglo]

Eating shellfish and women speaking and church also supposedly "goes against God's will", why aren't you out trying to close down Red Lobster and shut down Joyce Meyer?

Furthermore, it's civil marriage that is being discussed, not marriages performed in your church, so you need more than just your personal religious opinions to justify denying rights to a group of people.

[davidls11]

Five down, forty five to go! Way to go Maine!

[Jacksonholenativ]

The last gentleman who spoke at the end of the clip must PROVE that marriage equality will cause a break down in the "family". There is absolutely no evidence of this. People need to start paying attention to their own families and strengthening them as opposed to telling sexual minorities how they can live their lives and doing all in their power to take their civil rights away. America is changing and changing for the better.

[ReignFearless]

Ban all heterosexual adoption and force heterosexuals to renounce to their marriage if they can't have children "naturally". Also, if heterosexual married couples fails to reproduce nullify the marriage. Allowing such unions to exist otherwise will only break down other families because, well,..because.

[FallenAngelIII]

Yeah, give them a year. No kid, no marriage.

[neenerpuss]

The only families hurt are our gay families denied their civil rights. The right to protect each other. They scream that we are discriminating against them because they want the right to discriminate. That's social injustice.

MARRIAGE EQUALITY FOR ALL!

[TGIFurry]

"It's about just basic morality, natural law. just look at it, a man and a woman, they're complimentary. Marriage is for procreation, and gays and lesbians can't naturally have children".

"I'm opposed to same sex marriage, I believe marriage is between one man and one woman".

"Because i believe marriage is between one man and one woman, and it's the breakdown of the family if you do that. And that's where I come from and I believe in all my heart that that's the way it should be". cont'd.

[TGIFurry]

cont'd. "I learned many years ago that children do not happen without a mom and without a dad (applause). Either of these bills, if enacted into law, will have a very negative impact on the families in the state of Maine as we know it. Parenting, which we have know for all of history, will no longer exist".

If this is the best they've got, they're running on fumes.

[smeejay]

Or as Bill Maher says, "down to the stems and seeds" of their arguments.

[rainbowheartgirl]

TGI, exaggerate much? Parenting is not going to cease to exist. Parenting has been around forever, and straight parents will always be the majority. But parenting has already evolved. Banning same-sex marriage doesn't stop gay and lesbian people from having kids. There are *millions* of same-sex parents already. I have two gay dads myself, and the only families that got hurt by what happened in Maine are families like mine.

[TGIFurry]

a comparison is not a match.

it's fair to compare aspects of gender, race, orientation, etc., but anyone thinking they're identical is intellectually lazy.

[smeejay]

He continues, "I was born black and had no choice. I couldn't and wouldn't change it if I could. Like race our sexuality isn't a preference it is inborn. And our Constitution protects us all against didcrimination based on immutable differences. Civil rights are a win/win game. The more rights won by others, the bigger the army protection our hard won rights."

Look into the views of Corretta Scott King or Maya Angelou or any of the strong black leaders that their community looks to for insight.

[smeejay]

Well, instead of wondering perhaps you should do whati've done in the past and look into it. Julian Bond marched with Dr. Martin Luther King and has been the chairperson for the NAACP since 1998.

"Civil rights are not special rights", he says."They are shared by all. Itisn't special to want to be free from discrimination. It is an ordinary, universal entitlement of citizenship. People should be flattered that our struggle ahs provided so much inspiration for others."

[cunit4416]

The arugment that marriage is only for procreation is bullshit. How come women that are infertile, or couples that simply DON'T want to have children aren't banned from getting married? So much ignorance i can't take it.

[smeejay]

Ultimately every single argument that I've come up against for marriage equality always boils down to, at it's very core, the refusal to give up or change the view that GLBT are inferior and broken. Religion, nature, family, etc... are all smoke screens used to keep those that judge from taking responsibilty for THEIR own irration fear of others. In this case, GLBT. Sad, but true. And terribly unenlightened.

[enigmatically]

how come those who oppose gay marriage always look like homosexuals?  they're just jealous of people who can keep it real instead of pretend to be straight?

[DaBareMinimum420]

I think for far too long this country and more specific Maine has descriminated against people who just happen to have a differant sexual preferance than what ppl consider " the norm " and i use that word loosely.

[depfox]

civil rights include all people. many gay and lesbians fought for black americans for their civil rights. martin luther kings top aid was a gay man. The black and gay strugles are two different strugles. that doesnt mean that you cant point out similarities. The same arguments used against blacks are now being used against gays. You need to educate yourself. Being gay is not a choice if it is then please go have sex with a man and decide if you like it or not.

[homerth1555]

Perversion of homosexuality? It wasn't that long ago that whites and blacks were not allowed to be married because that was against the bible, against natural order, etc.

Someday people will look back at this time and be amazed at the bigotry against law-abiding gay people who just want the same rights as their heterosexual neighbors.

[Clemburke1111]

too, your born black and your born gay.

[herndon5]

let it be legalized!!!!!!!!!!

[Clemburke1111]

Hern ,,I think it will be legalized.

[herndon5]

i know