i read a research on this where scientists were given a sample to find out the DNA of this skull. Here are some interesting things discovered: The cross cut of the StarChild's cranial bone is 4-5 centimeters thinner than that of an avg human skull at approx 5-6 yrs of age. There were unusual deposits in the marrow of this skull that were believed to have been blood. Problem is, human blood when oxidized turns black. This one wasnt. They couldnt determine what it was
@mxkxylplk the definitive discovery that proved this wasnt a child's skull let alone human was this-- dental records showed this skull had fully developed adult molars. And get this: There were five additional teeth underneath the root of the molars. Which means if this species were to lose his/her/its adult molars, it will grow another. I wish i had bookmarked the site of that scientist since he had a video documenting the case
theres a whole world of idiots out there who claims this skull of a child that sufferd from hydrocephalus belong to an alien/alien hybrid ect
In doing so they insult every person in this world who suffers from hydrocephalus.
Alien human hybrid is impossible, anyone with the slightest knowledge of biology should realise that
And if an alien species is evolved enough to travel here from a distant star spending hundreds or even tousands of years to visit us, im sure they woulndt forget their heads
@TheGoatherdGod How do you know that Alien/Human hybrids are impossible? How does knowledge in Biology automatically give you the right to claim that a high-intelligence lifeform coming from another planet, galaxy or even time couldn't alter genetics to create a better being?
Really, what in Biology says that?
Nobody was trying to insult hydrocephalic patients, either.
You're not alone; I have hydrocephalus myself and was shunted at six weeks old; however, when I was shunted, it was originally placed on the left side of my brain, because that's where the doctors believed that most of the spinal fluid was draining from; however, when I was a year old, the new doctors moved it from the left side of my brain to the right side where it currently resides. The fact I have had several seizures in four years is another issue I have to deal with.
I have a daughter with Hydrocephalus and I can assure you it is not as pseudoscientific as this video presented it. Although the cerebrospinal fluid is in excess, the so called erosion does not ocur. Otherwise, every bodies skull would be eroded as well. We all have cerebrospinal fluid, only that people with hydrocephaly have too much of it. When such cases are extreme, the child dies young. The skull in question is evidently a child's skull. Such extreme cases require a shunt.
@Topmostpop Rahab was not a planet. To ascribe it as such, proves ignorance. Read the book of Joshua. Rahab was the woman who helped Israeli spies out of Jericho and later married Caleb.
@keyboardmousepad no, it's the people who think about "what is?" who make discoveries and contribute useful ideas to society. "what if" encompasses everything that is not as well as everything that is. simply asking "what if?" is a recipe for nothing more substantial than science fiction.
In regards to the Sumerian cuniform, I don't think they are supposed to be a model of the solar system at all. The "Sun" is actually the symbol of Ishtar, a fertility goddess. The dots don't seem to have the right relative sizes or prominent identifying features, let alone positions, to indicate any real functional understanding... but it does vaguely resemble the old perceptions of the solar system as we knew it at that time. Pluto changed all that.
Pluto was only initially considered a planet as a way to keep from having to reinvent the definitions and criteria for the sake of a unique outlier. Pluto was only later dropped when these errata turned out be quite common, meaning 30+ potential new planets fits the bill for planet. Eris even turned out to be larger than Pluto
So why would the Sumerians recognize Pluto, but not Eris or Make-Make? How could you even tell the difference if they had in mind another body entirely?
Lastly, it is fairly evident that Sumerian cosmology as described in their creation myth is that of a flat Earth at the center of the universe. Sumerian culture had a large influence on Babylonian and Assyrian cultures, and flat earth cosmology was still being used until at least around 6th century BCE, after the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem. The close proximity between Babylonian and Hebrew culture is likely where the Genesis inherited their Sumerian inspirations..
Well, the most likely explanation for a result of unknown would be an error in procedure or in configuring his filters on the database. Yet, accepting for the moment that the premise is true, a more probable answer may be that the sequence at one time did share partial homology that was subject to a significant mutation like an inversion or translocation, etc. Were his lineage later then to go extinct, which is not uncommon, that would account for an apparent lack of homology
@keyboardmousepad "Most of the DNA discovered was human, but there was DNA found that did not match any records in the database."
This is what I'm talking about. The leap from "unknown sequence" to "must be alien experiments" is assumed so easily without so much as a consideration for other more likely and verifiable explanations. "Unknown" simply means it came back "unknown", nothing more.
Also, we were producing unique GE species (like corn) up to 12,000 years ago via artificial selection.
ill beleive the doctors before i believe a dude who thinks the aliens came here to build us some nice pyramids. probably thinks aliens are drawing in our crop circles also. what human could possibly draw something. etc. talentless telling everyone whats possible. these are the guys who thought that liszt was posessed of devils rather than believe he practiced 8 hours a day.
Most of the DNA discovered was human, but there was DNA found that did not match any records in the database.
This is very compelling evidence of genetic engineering and as humans weren't capable of that 1000 years ago, there is only one logical conclusion you can make.
It must be extraterrestrials . This is the most plausible explanation, this is not a wild claim, extraterrestrials do exist , surely everyone has seen them by now. Just buy a telescope and focus it on the moon for a few days.
Even if you can't explain something like this that does not justify making any wild claim you feel like. Aliens are right up there with Jesus, Zeus and Ghosts... Like there aren't enough things in life that you KNOW exist to deal with. It is sad that so many people get caught up in "what if?" bullshit like this that reality suffers because of it.
You don't seem to understand the difference between Dogma and Methodology, nor that the scientific method itself is not exempt from falsification, providing a powerful ratchet for continual refinement. Dogma is the exact opposite; belief asserted to be true on it's own merit and exempt from correction regardless of evidence.
Also, if you think science shrinks away from controversy - then you're likely not paying close enough attention to what's going on and being discovered.
Scientifically its an enigma. If it was a deformity there would be asymmetry somewhere but there is none to found. The mitochondria is that of a human woman and the dna package is unknown and it was tested against the most vast and renown dna lab on earth. It seems to concur with the bible when the nephilim came down and bred with the daughters of man....etc Modern science has been preconditioned to its text books. WE DONT KNOW SHIT you arrogant fucks! This is an undeniably incredible claim!
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@N0TS0SUBTLE A deformity is not an enigma. Without evidence to the contrary, how do you conclude (and therefore use the word, "enigma") that it is not human? No evidence has EVER been presented that would ever pass the scrutiny of science. This is just a lot of mumbo-jumbo talk used to sell books.
Somehow, you just don't seem like the type that knows anything much.
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@N0TS0SUBTLE What do you mean by DNA "package"? What does this have to do with the Bible? Speak for yourself when you say, "WE DONT KNOW SHIT you arrogant fucks!"
@TheSkepticUn But my argument is ultimately that of faith so I don't think we can reach a commonality. Which is fine but I ask if you have ever considered Christ? I know the worlds religions are that of disgust and have made Jesus's name as worn out as a Pop star with a one-hit song that is over played on the radio but i think his message is one of great importance. So on that note I bid you luck on your search for truth and God bless friend.
@TheSkepticUn Let me just start off by apologizing for my crude candid take on scientists. I didn't mean to upset you although I guess its hard not to get angry the way I stated it. Did you see the actual presentation on this? He has some very compelling evidence that is inexplicable. Check out a man named Bill Schnoebelen. He is a very intellectual guy who takes a biblical approach (this one isn't redundant). Just keep an open mind, watch a full presentation and tell me what you think. Peace
@N0TS0SUBTLE You state, "The mitochondria is that of a human woman and the dna package is unknown and it was tested against the most vast and renown dna lab on earth". First off, it is mtDNA (not mitochondria) that has been part of the story. Secondly, "it" (in your quote) was not "tested against the most vast and renown dna lab on earth", it is supposedly being tested against a database. This has nothing to do with religion or the Bible, but the perversion of science. You are mistaken.
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@N0TS0SUBTLE I appreciate your shift in demeanor, however, using the word, "inexplicable", you are either incorrect or misguided. Yes, I've watched this video and all the others in their entirety. I have never been impressed by anything resembling an honest or thorough or scientific approach to this curiosity. I see instead, deluded and/or dishonest people trying to con people who just don't know any better. There is no science in any of this and I would be happy to discuss.
@TheSkepticUn What did you think about the tiny strands found protruding out/through the skull. That database i guess has one of the most extensive comparative databases in the world. But if half was identified as human how could the other half show no known results if it contained human DNA as well. You don't find that anomalous? But how I think everything ties in is when I heard that reference i gave you say that many people are abducted for hybridization in an attempt to create the perfect
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You ask me "What did you think about the tiny strands found protruding out/through the skull"? I never saw any, did you? I have, like you, like everyone else, only the personal website to go on in this regard. No external investigator has even been allowed to examine the skull, nor been allowed unfettered access to methdological transcripts or records of procedures. Perhaps there are no "tiny strands" at all? I might be inclined to wait for publication in a credible journal.
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You say, "But if half was identified as human how could the other half show no known results if it contained human DNA as well"...according to whom? I am sorry, but I think I have missed the part about SCIENCE being done. Who did what how and for how long and how much was measured...and so on....and the results were based on sound scientific methodology according to which peer-review process?
@TheSkepticUn anti-christ. I know that sounds strange but if you watched this guy, Bill Schoebelen it would make sense. I believe that the annunaki/fallen angels bred w woman and created what is know as the mythological demi gods such as Hercules...etc. There were evil giants that roamed the earth which is why God flooded it in the days of Noah. I believe there to be tainted DNA in the world today because some survived the flood. I believe Christ came to "cleanse" us so to speak...
@N0TS0SUBTLE Maybe you want to stop toking or find the evidence to support this nonsense? Either you are talking science or something else....what is it?
When you say this, "There were evil giants that roamed the earth which is why God flooded it in the days of Noah. I believe there to be tainted DNA in the world today because some survived the flood. I believe Christ came to "cleanse" us so to speak.. "....I say, you are a NUT!
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You say, "I believe that the annunaki/fallen angels bred w woman and created what is know as the mythological demi gods such as Hercules...etc. "...well, I prefer to believe that ice cream is the food of the gods and that if I sprinkle chocolate shavings on my armpits, I will be reincarnated as an invisible, hovering disco ball that reflects all the colours of the rainbow onto kittens and bunnies which then turn into television personalities ....that's what I believe...Praise be....
@TheSkepticUn it would kill you to actually be serious about Christ for once wouldnt it? I couldnt agree with notsosubtle more, i mean cmon its our book of historical beliefs against your scientific theories that DO by the way have many gaps in them. So how can you say which is right or wrong, yet you denounce Christians? I saw what you wrote and thats exactly how it comes off. If you dont agree with us be more mature about it, i saw no offense given unto you so the same in return is appreciated
I would really like to believe this is a starchild of an alien race but is there a chance of the skull being deformed inside the womb prior to birth from any kind of paramorphosis due to an embryo defect?
after watching this video I typed in Hydrocephalic skull in order to compare it to the starchild"s skull. I found this strange video of a baby with a skull deformity and also problems with his/her eyes. They are bulging out. Could this child have had the same problems with her eyes? Why is it so hard to believe that this child was just severe birth defects? It happens all the time, unfortunatly....... (warning this video is disturbing)
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my god if its an alien it had a head like a an abnormal testicle lol get a life you sad cunts ho ho fucking ho stop smoking the drugs and this pye guy pratt of the highest order yep i have spoken and now im off to breed my goat spiders ha ha ha
@Sinuev1 Lloyd has not yet released an official report on the Starchild DNA results. While he does have good evidence he will not present his findings to the scientific world until more DNA tests have been completed. Science will not accept something like this without a large amount of evidence and even then I’m sure they will wish to produce many tests themselves. Lloyds website is updated often and has all information.
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@wlfmi Oh is that so? And how do you know that Pye has anything but magic beans in his pocket? If you had the slightest education in science, you would easily see that Pye has been all along, fleecing people of their money to buy his books and make "donations", but he has never done any credible science. He is either severely deluded or a fraud or both), but there is no evidence that this skull is anything but human.
@Sinuev1 people don’t usually present good arguments on Youtube they usually just rant and rave! You make many good points that I have considered but Youtube is not good for responding. I don’t disagree with evolutionary theory but do disagree that all life on earth has a natural flow. For the earliest bacteria prokaryotes to produce oxygen it seems all too convenient. Look through Lloyds website it explains intervention very well. You may not agree but I think you’ll find it interesting.
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@wlfmi As for Pye's website, it is a joke. He demonstrates a complte lack of understanding of science and jumps to conclusions that no one has the authority to make, yet then tries to convince the reader using scientific jargon, that he is credible. Anyone with an undergraduate degree in biological science knows better than this. Why are there so many folks who lack critical thinking skills and do not take this guy to task?
Two skulls were found together and were both tested. mtDNA was recovered from both but there was a problem recovering a good sample of nDNA from the Starchild only. Since both sculls were discovered together getting a good sample from the Starchild should have been successful! MtDNA does not prove the Starchild to have human parents, it only proves it was carried to term by a human female that could have been a surrogate. NDNA now recovered shows SC to be completely Alien!
@wlfmi "NDNA now recovered shows SC to be completely Alien!"
Riiiight... and which paper were these results published in? Now, while I'm sure that generalized analogs would most certainly exist in an alien species which evolved in similar environments (consider the evolution of flight in insects, archosaurs, dinosaurs/birds, mammals, even fish) - such a large degree of specific morphological traits would not have evolved in an entirely independent system. You'd need a close common ancestry.
What you're proposing isn't even something we observe in our own terrestrial biosphere, so how do you propose that it occurs in a "totally alien" species? Especially since very slight differences in environment can produce very different selective pressures via the butterfly effect.
It'd be as likely as meeting an alien species for the first time at an intergalactic crosswalk and discovering they had independently derived the English language we speak, though with a strange drawl.
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There is absolutely no evidence to support the claims that this skull is anything but human. DNA analyses have indicated that this skull is consistent with a human genome from a skull that is dated to be 900 years old. With its advanced age, the ability of extracting DNA from this skull is complicated as would be expected. However, this cannot be inferred to represent a genome that is somehow not human unto itself. There was certainly enough of a sample to conclude that it was a human.
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@Misstorys I also suggest that you obtain an education at at least an undergraduate level before engaging in a topic that actually requires a solid foundation in biological sciences. I await your reply.
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@Misstorys The first analysis done by Sweet at UBC found an X and Y chromosome, providing conclusive evidence that not only was the skull human, but so were both its parents. Unfortunately, Pye wants to sell books, so he disregarded the science that threatened to close down his BS book sales, and has strung gullible people along for years. There has NEVER been any evidence to demonstrate that this skull was anything other than human. SCIENCE EDUCATION!
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@Fitbike18 Sorry but you are incorrect. There have been two previous analyses doen on this skull, neither of which demonstrated any findings that were inconsistent with human origins of the skull. That you are unable to read the analyses is not the fault of anyone but your own self. How about getting an education?
@TheSkepticUn Maybe im z little uneducated but i hav a long life a head of me to gain knowledge and life experience but what i really want to know is do you really believe there is no other life in our universe?
@TheSkepticUn Do you really think you can fool someone with my level of education into believing that you have more than a basic high school education? For your information Lloyd presents findings discovered by scientists. Lloyd is a credible researcher, had you done your research you would know this. Go away, do some real research on the subject and come back with something better than what you have. Explain please what evidence there is as proof that SC is human?
@thewhakka Yes, there is DNA evidence. MtDNA proved a human female carried the child to term. In attempting nDNA recovery problems occurred. A new technique in recovering DNA called BLAST has been used and results were been shocking! Repeated tests recovered DNA more than 300 base pairs long that cannot be found in anything on earth (no creature or plant.) Lloyd has not yet released an official report but will after genome sequencing has been done.
As I understand it, those 300 base pairs are not from a single segment - but are a collection of various fragments totaling 300 base pairs. With such incomplete fragments, you're not going to find a match even on existing species. Even were the segment a single sequence, 300 base pairs is not much to go on.. and since (IIRC) they have not published the program, DB, or parameters they set when doing the search, there's no way to confirm their claim. Poor calibration gives false results.
@Sinuev1 Your understanding is wrong. Each test was capable of retrieving a minimum of 300 base pairs and several tests retrieved thousands of unknown base pairs. An official report has not yet been released but will be released in the near future. The argument we have presented here is a good example of why genome sequencing is needed. Lloyd will release an official report only once genome sequencing has been achieved.
Until that supposed report is release, you have nothing except empty assertion. You have an unnamed "geneticist" working for an "unnamed lab" who has released no preliminary research, has not detailed their methodology, has not show any indication of running base line, has no null hypothesis, gives no real indication of sample sizes, and has not had their discoveries independently replicated for verification.
On a side note, I find the language used on the site to be rather geared towards persuasion. Even going so far as to set themselves up as a pariah with the tired "first they mock, then they fight, then you win" canard. You don't find this kind of language in professional or academic literature, and it's a dead ringer for someone trying convince you they have a hand full of aces when they really don't have jack. Otherwise, the data and it's implications would be all that's needed.
I did happen to notice (however), that they claim that some of the nDNA was a match to human chromosome 1, indicating human origin. However, I've also managed to get a 300 bp segment from a common house mouse's SRY gene from it's Y chromosome to correlate with three genes on human chromosome #2, and managed to snag a equal segment of SOX9 from a human Y chromosome to turn up no significant correlation to human DNA.
If your filters are misapplied or intentionally borked, you get junk
I should also point out a fact that an earlier commenter brought up; that the tests done by BOLD turned up standard XY chromosomes. This confirms that the child was human, as there's no good reason (or mechanism) as to why an independently derived species would evolve such a close sex determent analog to our own.
Even if you wanted to make the assertion that Aliens do have XX/XY sex chromosomes, the claim would be unfalsifiable and therefore invalid.
@Sinuev1 those tests done by BOLD were innacurate they did further testing by a more reliable and sophisticated DNA tester and found that only part of the DNA was human the other has never been seen in anything on this planet
Are you referring to that uncontrolled test by an unnamed geneticist working and a "confidential" genetics lab? Yeah, they very well may have come back with no known homologous in current gene database, but there are a myriad of ways that result could be reported. It's really not that hard to get a negative return on even well known and prolific genes.
Even were the results accurate, the assumptions needed for ET-GE is hugely disproportionate to what needed for other theories.
@Sinuev1 I have Lloyd’s word and that’s good enough for me!
Soooo…. You complain that thousands of unrecongnised base pairs are nothing but agree with the BOLD lab that claimed 200 picogrammes out of the 1000 needed for accurate analysis! Trace genetics could not recover nDNA so it’s safe to say that BOLD deifnately did not recover nDNA. The lab cannot claim to have found human X Y chromosomes when tests did not retrieve what was needed for accurate analysis....
@wlfmi You have Lloyd's word... a lecturer in alternative knowledge (somehow I doubt that's even a valid field of study) and that's good enough for you?? :D
@atheistram Lloyd will tell the truth whether you wish to hear it or not. I have spent some time communicating with Lloyd and find him to be brutally honest. I judge each person by experiences with them and can tell you from my personal experience that Lloyd is no liar. What Lloyd has to say about DNA testing I have no reason to disbelieve since he has not lied about previous testing results. The insults you give against Lloyd is not an argument against the DNA evidence produced by scientists.
@wlfmi He has no evidence of directed panspermia and likely never will (which he is trying to prove). The most evidence he has is that an alien possibly impregnated a human female 900 years ago.
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@wlfmi You are an idiot. Any person with an education in science at the level of even an undergraduate would be able to see how bogus this entire story is. The guy is selling books to the gullible and has no clue about the science whatsoever. If there was evidence, why is it not published in peer-reviewed journals? Sorry pal, but you are not even close.
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@wlfmi How is it considered legitimate science, to on one hand, claim to be using DNA analysis to ascertain the origin of this skull, and yet not follow science the way scientists do? Such inconsistencies make this whole affair a joke. Science is predicated on using the scientific method which includes not drawing conclusions before the evidence is in. Why has Pye assumed that this skull is not human, or has origin as of ET, when there is absolutely no evidence to support this?
So, tests that don't agree with the 'alien' hypothesis will be disregarded and incomplete findings (even if they point towards a human origin) will be trumpeted as proof of said alien theory?
This is not an alien or alien hybrid skull. It's the skull of a poor unfortunate boy, born with a terrible condition.
Believing anything else is a conviction of faith and to quote Nietzsche: "Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies." and "Faith: not wanting to know what is true."
get a life, the skull has a deformation to it, this is not uncommon when inbreeding occures. This would happen when small tribes mated because there were so few people in the distant past. Use your big head not your alien head,
@silverpizza100 That's exactly what I was thinking! Nice to find someone with a sensible opinion on youtube. It is sad that a lot of people trust and believe everything they read. Where did that come from, religion?
No it isnt if you look up on the internet or follow the man himself you would KNOW he has proven that the starchild has a Alien-Father from Outer space. And a mother from Earth. He finally did the final Tests.
Thats why i also trust the man himself. When he finally have done the final test to eximane or whatever to see the real truth about this kids skull blablabla and that was totally AMAZING !!!!! So yes the internet has 50% BS and 50% real truth in it. Its just what you want to trust ! =)
quick evolutionist come up with a new primate so you can explain this. Rofl i am suprised though no one put tried to put this skull in the primate to human evolutionary tree.
no, this is definitely not head binding. not sure where you heard that, lol. but I think mainstream science considers it to be a genetic deformity, and/or a congenital disease. Progeria and Hydrocephalus most likely.
Hmm this video ignores the evidence that this is a result of head binding...causing a deformed skull on purpose. Such practices were very common in the people of South America in earlier times, as well as all over the world. Many different types were performed including ones to flatten the back of the skull...and others to make dramatic 'cone head' shaped skulls. Many researchers believe this to simply be an unusual form of that practice.
According to physiological norms , even if the skull had very severe Hydrocelaphy, it would still have some resembelence of sinus cavities. OK I'm not necessarily saying this is an human/ET but that aspect of the skull is very interesting.
Again if you area of cranial and human pathology exceeds that of eleven physicians who examined the skull please bring forth this new information to light, otherwise your argument is quite weak. I will admit that I am too presumptive to conclude that the skull is an human-alien hybrid, so I will stop assuming that. but as I said all genetic deformitys have been ruled out, if you choose to ignore that fact then that is your problem.
Again like several others you need to go back and do more research. The skull has NO SINUS CAVITYS, something even a skull deformed human would be born with and have present. The father could not be determined as human because it did not match any known male genotype. Ok fine I won't say yes it's got to be an alien, if you're not comfortable with it.
The eye sockets are far too shallow to hold human eyes without them protruding from the sockets, risking injury with even slight activity.
@ericr530 Not necessarily. If the starter gene for the formation of sinus cavities was mutated, or never turned on (very rare in both cases) the skull would have no sinus cavities. However, since this little, deformed kid lived a few years, it is also possible for the sinuses to have been filled in with bone after birth. Make sense?
You're an idiot. Look at the goddamned thing. See those two curved structures with the bony protrusion coming down from them? Those curved structures are where the pars orbitalis normally fuse with the nasal bones. That vertical structure is likely the perpendicular plate of the Ethmoid bone.
Why would an "alien child" which had "no sinus cavity" have such nasal correlative structures?
@Sinuev1 Pye stated that, I was only repeating it. Who gives a flying fuck what the skull really is, I've got better things to do with my time. Leave me out of your petty exchanges from this point forward.
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@Sinuev1 Sadly, you are one of the few educated people on this discussion. It is amazing to read the lunatic fringe out in full force. Funny thing though, the skull is nothing but human, as the two previous analyses demonstrated. Pye is now stringing this circus on for as long as he can to continue to fleece folks of their coin. Sad gullible masses.
How laughable that you suggest my ignorance when you don't even use proper terminology. Brachycephalic is the terminology to identify short skulls such as a Chinese Pug. Hydrocephalic would be the proper term for this skull which has been ruled out because the skull does not exhibit abnormal suturing which is present with this condition. Any genetic deformity has been ruled out. Crop circles aren't genetically tested or radiocarbon dated either to be provable as fake.
And your wrong too Frenchie. Examined by 11 Canadian and American physicians. NO GENETIC DEFORMITY-ALL RULED OUT. Do a little research and visit the official website before you make your ignorance known to others.
NOOOOOO! Not BS, how wrong you are. DNA and carbon dated, passed scientific scrutiny. Do some research before you let it slip how misinformed you are.
i guess ther wouldnt be to many questions if the bottom half of the shull wer there and intact right. geeez! the only one of its kind and the main prtion is gone? these people need to get real
The don't need the jaw portion of the skull Einstein, they have already DNA tested the upper portion,it wouldn't make a difference, same DNA either way,and the mother is human but the father is not. Also any deformity both genetic and physically forced, such a cranial binding. Do a little research on genetics and visit the offical Starchild website to educate youself.
There are also fibers found in the skull that aren't present in ANY other animal on Earth. Stop being arrogant and proliferating ignorance. Like I said any deformity, both genetic and physically forced HAS BEEN RULED OUT.
It's not progeria if that's what you are talking about. All genetic disorders were ruled out when the skull was DNA tested, I guess you weren't paying attention.
You know what that looks like... God, for the life of me I can't remember the disorder's name. There's a little girl that has the worst case in history living at the moment, last name Winters I believe. It's a genetic disorder where the facial bones don't form properly.
If the government has no knowledge of aliens, then why does Title 14, Section 1211 of the code of Federal Regulations, implemented on July 16, 1969, make it illegal for U.S. citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles?
Aaaa so its a LAW against US zitizens to have contact with aliens or alien technology?
Haha im just thinking about some poor sod getting abducted & anal probed in US & after he gets returned he gets arrested by the Goverment for having been in contact with extraterestials ^^ !
Not a hydrocephelaus skull,but it does look like a skull of a person who suffers from what is called "progeria"is called.Look up progeria on here and notice how they compare..it is most likely that.
i read a research on this where scientists were given a sample to find out the DNA of this skull. Here are some interesting things discovered: The cross cut of the StarChild's cranial bone is 4-5 centimeters thinner than that of an avg human skull at approx 5-6 yrs of age. There were unusual deposits in the marrow of this skull that were believed to have been blood. Problem is, human blood when oxidized turns black. This one wasnt. They couldnt determine what it was
mxkxylplk 2 days ago
@mxkxylplk the definitive discovery that proved this wasnt a child's skull let alone human was this-- dental records showed this skull had fully developed adult molars. And get this: There were five additional teeth underneath the root of the molars. Which means if this species were to lose his/her/its adult molars, it will grow another. I wish i had bookmarked the site of that scientist since he had a video documenting the case
mxkxylplk 2 days ago
Obviously, this is some OTHER birth defect, as there is no such thing as a "starchild". Get a grip, folks.
mkshouse 2 days ago
really informative and interesting
rodswebdesign 3 days ago
good work here
thejameskan 6 days ago
theres a whole world of idiots out there who claims this skull of a child that sufferd from hydrocephalus belong to an alien/alien hybrid ect
In doing so they insult every person in this world who suffers from hydrocephalus.
Alien human hybrid is impossible, anyone with the slightest knowledge of biology should realise that
And if an alien species is evolved enough to travel here from a distant star spending hundreds or even tousands of years to visit us, im sure they woulndt forget their heads
TheGoatherdGod 4 months ago
@TheGoatherdGod How do you know that Alien/Human hybrids are impossible? How does knowledge in Biology automatically give you the right to claim that a high-intelligence lifeform coming from another planet, galaxy or even time couldn't alter genetics to create a better being?
Really, what in Biology says that?
Nobody was trying to insult hydrocephalic patients, either.
vampyrezombiedragon 3 days ago
Great job explaining the physical defects. Now explain the DNA differences....
solracselbor 4 months ago
proudmckinleyparent--
You're not alone; I have hydrocephalus myself and was shunted at six weeks old; however, when I was shunted, it was originally placed on the left side of my brain, because that's where the doctors believed that most of the spinal fluid was draining from; however, when I was a year old, the new doctors moved it from the left side of my brain to the right side where it currently resides. The fact I have had several seizures in four years is another issue I have to deal with.
EricEbac22 6 months ago
I have a daughter with Hydrocephalus and I can assure you it is not as pseudoscientific as this video presented it. Although the cerebrospinal fluid is in excess, the so called erosion does not ocur. Otherwise, every bodies skull would be eroded as well. We all have cerebrospinal fluid, only that people with hydrocephaly have too much of it. When such cases are extreme, the child dies young. The skull in question is evidently a child's skull. Such extreme cases require a shunt.
proudmckinleyparent 6 months ago
@Topmostpop Rahab was not a planet. To ascribe it as such, proves ignorance. Read the book of Joshua. Rahab was the woman who helped Israeli spies out of Jericho and later married Caleb.
proudmckinleyparent 6 months ago
really annoying music.
1killallyourfriends1 6 months ago
It's a human skull. Its mother was Amerindian and its father was human too, hence the male Y chromosome.
opiates 6 months ago
If you believe it is biologically possible to create half-human half-alien entity you are a retard. Even more.
FlyingSpaghettiMoner 7 months ago 2
Looks like the skull of a person with progeria.
IgN1t3JB 8 months ago
won't believe that shit .. won't buy it !! no matter wt other said ..
nicelook9 8 months ago
@keyboardmousepad no, it's the people who think about "what is?" who make discoveries and contribute useful ideas to society. "what if" encompasses everything that is not as well as everything that is. simply asking "what if?" is a recipe for nothing more substantial than science fiction.
draeperin 10 months ago
@keyboardmousepad
In regards to the Sumerian cuniform, I don't think they are supposed to be a model of the solar system at all. The "Sun" is actually the symbol of Ishtar, a fertility goddess. The dots don't seem to have the right relative sizes or prominent identifying features, let alone positions, to indicate any real functional understanding... but it does vaguely resemble the old perceptions of the solar system as we knew it at that time. Pluto changed all that.
(Cont)
Sinuev1 10 months ago
@Sinuev1 (cont)
Pluto was only initially considered a planet as a way to keep from having to reinvent the definitions and criteria for the sake of a unique outlier. Pluto was only later dropped when these errata turned out be quite common, meaning 30+ potential new planets fits the bill for planet. Eris even turned out to be larger than Pluto
So why would the Sumerians recognize Pluto, but not Eris or Make-Make? How could you even tell the difference if they had in mind another body entirely?
Sinuev1 10 months ago
@Sinuev1
Lastly, it is fairly evident that Sumerian cosmology as described in their creation myth is that of a flat Earth at the center of the universe. Sumerian culture had a large influence on Babylonian and Assyrian cultures, and flat earth cosmology was still being used until at least around 6th century BCE, after the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem. The close proximity between Babylonian and Hebrew culture is likely where the Genesis inherited their Sumerian inspirations..
Sinuev1 10 months ago
@Sinuev1 This is an outright lie, Sumerians knew the earth was round and had plenty of pictures and discriptions to prove it!
Piratejenny25 8 months ago
@keyboardmousepad
Well, the most likely explanation for a result of unknown would be an error in procedure or in configuring his filters on the database. Yet, accepting for the moment that the premise is true, a more probable answer may be that the sequence at one time did share partial homology that was subject to a significant mutation like an inversion or translocation, etc. Were his lineage later then to go extinct, which is not uncommon, that would account for an apparent lack of homology
Sinuev1 10 months ago
@keyboardmousepad "Most of the DNA discovered was human, but there was DNA found that did not match any records in the database."
This is what I'm talking about. The leap from "unknown sequence" to "must be alien experiments" is assumed so easily without so much as a consideration for other more likely and verifiable explanations. "Unknown" simply means it came back "unknown", nothing more.
Also, we were producing unique GE species (like corn) up to 12,000 years ago via artificial selection.
Sinuev1 10 months ago
ill beleive the doctors before i believe a dude who thinks the aliens came here to build us some nice pyramids. probably thinks aliens are drawing in our crop circles also. what human could possibly draw something. etc. talentless telling everyone whats possible. these are the guys who thought that liszt was posessed of devils rather than believe he practiced 8 hours a day.
zebb1111 11 months ago
Most of the DNA discovered was human, but there was DNA found that did not match any records in the database.
This is very compelling evidence of genetic engineering and as humans weren't capable of that 1000 years ago, there is only one logical conclusion you can make.
It must be extraterrestrials . This is the most plausible explanation, this is not a wild claim, extraterrestrials do exist , surely everyone has seen them by now. Just buy a telescope and focus it on the moon for a few days.
nikolayzou 1 year ago
Even if you can't explain something like this that does not justify making any wild claim you feel like. Aliens are right up there with Jesus, Zeus and Ghosts... Like there aren't enough things in life that you KNOW exist to deal with. It is sad that so many people get caught up in "what if?" bullshit like this that reality suffers because of it.
draeperin 1 year ago
could just as easily be another disease that we have no clue about. cmon...
YouAreWrong2011 1 year ago
Why no "scientific peer review"? Check this: watch?v=ePUy4npHOmQ
Simply said, due to current dogmatic science policies will not touch highly extraordinary (or "controversial") subjects.
rehsab01 1 year ago 4
@rehsab01
You don't seem to understand the difference between Dogma and Methodology, nor that the scientific method itself is not exempt from falsification, providing a powerful ratchet for continual refinement. Dogma is the exact opposite; belief asserted to be true on it's own merit and exempt from correction regardless of evidence.
Also, if you think science shrinks away from controversy - then you're likely not paying close enough attention to what's going on and being discovered.
Sinuev1 10 months ago
Scientifically its an enigma. If it was a deformity there would be asymmetry somewhere but there is none to found. The mitochondria is that of a human woman and the dna package is unknown and it was tested against the most vast and renown dna lab on earth. It seems to concur with the bible when the nephilim came down and bred with the daughters of man....etc Modern science has been preconditioned to its text books. WE DONT KNOW SHIT you arrogant fucks! This is an undeniably incredible claim!
N0TS0SUBTLE 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE A deformity is not an enigma. Without evidence to the contrary, how do you conclude (and therefore use the word, "enigma") that it is not human? No evidence has EVER been presented that would ever pass the scrutiny of science. This is just a lot of mumbo-jumbo talk used to sell books.
Somehow, you just don't seem like the type that knows anything much.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE What do you mean by DNA "package"? What does this have to do with the Bible? Speak for yourself when you say, "WE DONT KNOW SHIT you arrogant fucks!"
Such an ignorant goof you are for saying that.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn But my argument is ultimately that of faith so I don't think we can reach a commonality. Which is fine but I ask if you have ever considered Christ? I know the worlds religions are that of disgust and have made Jesus's name as worn out as a Pop star with a one-hit song that is over played on the radio but i think his message is one of great importance. So on that note I bid you luck on your search for truth and God bless friend.
N0TS0SUBTLE 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You are knocking on the wrong door.....
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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What does "alternative knowledge" mean? What kind BS is that?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Let me just start off by apologizing for my crude candid take on scientists. I didn't mean to upset you although I guess its hard not to get angry the way I stated it. Did you see the actual presentation on this? He has some very compelling evidence that is inexplicable. Check out a man named Bill Schnoebelen. He is a very intellectual guy who takes a biblical approach (this one isn't redundant). Just keep an open mind, watch a full presentation and tell me what you think. Peace
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TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You state, "The mitochondria is that of a human woman and the dna package is unknown and it was tested against the most vast and renown dna lab on earth". First off, it is mtDNA (not mitochondria) that has been part of the story. Secondly, "it" (in your quote) was not "tested against the most vast and renown dna lab on earth", it is supposedly being tested against a database. This has nothing to do with religion or the Bible, but the perversion of science. You are mistaken.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE I appreciate your shift in demeanor, however, using the word, "inexplicable", you are either incorrect or misguided. Yes, I've watched this video and all the others in their entirety. I have never been impressed by anything resembling an honest or thorough or scientific approach to this curiosity. I see instead, deluded and/or dishonest people trying to con people who just don't know any better. There is no science in any of this and I would be happy to discuss.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn What did you think about the tiny strands found protruding out/through the skull. That database i guess has one of the most extensive comparative databases in the world. But if half was identified as human how could the other half show no known results if it contained human DNA as well. You don't find that anomalous? But how I think everything ties in is when I heard that reference i gave you say that many people are abducted for hybridization in an attempt to create the perfect
N0TS0SUBTLE 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You ask me "What did you think about the tiny strands found protruding out/through the skull"? I never saw any, did you? I have, like you, like everyone else, only the personal website to go on in this regard. No external investigator has even been allowed to examine the skull, nor been allowed unfettered access to methdological transcripts or records of procedures. Perhaps there are no "tiny strands" at all? I might be inclined to wait for publication in a credible journal.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You say, "But if half was identified as human how could the other half show no known results if it contained human DNA as well"...according to whom? I am sorry, but I think I have missed the part about SCIENCE being done. Who did what how and for how long and how much was measured...and so on....and the results were based on sound scientific methodology according to which peer-review process?
Do you know anything about how science is done?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn anti-christ. I know that sounds strange but if you watched this guy, Bill Schoebelen it would make sense. I believe that the annunaki/fallen angels bred w woman and created what is know as the mythological demi gods such as Hercules...etc. There were evil giants that roamed the earth which is why God flooded it in the days of Noah. I believe there to be tainted DNA in the world today because some survived the flood. I believe Christ came to "cleanse" us so to speak...
N0TS0SUBTLE 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE Maybe you want to stop toking or find the evidence to support this nonsense? Either you are talking science or something else....what is it?
When you say this, "There were evil giants that roamed the earth which is why God flooded it in the days of Noah. I believe there to be tainted DNA in the world today because some survived the flood. I believe Christ came to "cleanse" us so to speak.. "....I say, you are a NUT!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@N0TS0SUBTLE You say, "I believe that the annunaki/fallen angels bred w woman and created what is know as the mythological demi gods such as Hercules...etc. "...well, I prefer to believe that ice cream is the food of the gods and that if I sprinkle chocolate shavings on my armpits, I will be reincarnated as an invisible, hovering disco ball that reflects all the colours of the rainbow onto kittens and bunnies which then turn into television personalities ....that's what I believe...Praise be....
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn it would kill you to actually be serious about Christ for once wouldnt it? I couldnt agree with notsosubtle more, i mean cmon its our book of historical beliefs against your scientific theories that DO by the way have many gaps in them. So how can you say which is right or wrong, yet you denounce Christians? I saw what you wrote and thats exactly how it comes off. If you dont agree with us be more mature about it, i saw no offense given unto you so the same in return is appreciated
unleasheth 1 year ago
I would really like to believe this is a starchild of an alien race but is there a chance of the skull being deformed inside the womb prior to birth from any kind of paramorphosis due to an embryo defect?
michaelidesca 1 year ago
@michaelidesca in short no. search for starchild 2010 dna results on youtube to learn more
Opticalypso 1 year ago
as i thought all along the starchild is really 'brick' from 'the middle'
al3699 1 year ago
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#2, это установка выводящая из строя оптику
находится она сейчас в режиме ожидания и прицела
в случае импульса она вообще выжгет сетчатку глаза или сломает матрицу камеры
teeheehee
vanillasupremes1 1 year ago
after watching this video I typed in Hydrocephalic skull in order to compare it to the starchild"s skull. I found this strange video of a baby with a skull deformity and also problems with his/her eyes. They are bulging out. Could this child have had the same problems with her eyes? Why is it so hard to believe that this child was just severe birth defects? It happens all the time, unfortunatly....... (warning this video is disturbing)
MsAshBe 1 year ago
@wlfmi
Finally! Someone else with legit knowledge on this subject!
TheMetallicaKid 1 year ago
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my god if its an alien it had a head like a an abnormal testicle lol get a life you sad cunts ho ho fucking ho stop smoking the drugs and this pye guy pratt of the highest order yep i have spoken and now im off to breed my goat spiders ha ha ha
pussypop100 1 year ago
@Sinuev1 Lloyd has not yet released an official report on the Starchild DNA results. While he does have good evidence he will not present his findings to the scientific world until more DNA tests have been completed. Science will not accept something like this without a large amount of evidence and even then I’m sure they will wish to produce many tests themselves. Lloyds website is updated often and has all information.
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi Oh is that so? And how do you know that Pye has anything but magic beans in his pocket? If you had the slightest education in science, you would easily see that Pye has been all along, fleecing people of their money to buy his books and make "donations", but he has never done any credible science. He is either severely deluded or a fraud or both), but there is no evidence that this skull is anything but human.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@Sinuev1 people don’t usually present good arguments on Youtube they usually just rant and rave! You make many good points that I have considered but Youtube is not good for responding. I don’t disagree with evolutionary theory but do disagree that all life on earth has a natural flow. For the earliest bacteria prokaryotes to produce oxygen it seems all too convenient. Look through Lloyds website it explains intervention very well. You may not agree but I think you’ll find it interesting.
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi As for Pye's website, it is a joke. He demonstrates a complte lack of understanding of science and jumps to conclusions that no one has the authority to make, yet then tries to convince the reader using scientific jargon, that he is credible. Anyone with an undergraduate degree in biological science knows better than this. Why are there so many folks who lack critical thinking skills and do not take this guy to task?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
I feel sorry for that childs mother
jarvis911 1 year ago
@jarvis911 yes imagine how stretched she got....
ZodaZerg 1 year ago
Two skulls were found together and were both tested. mtDNA was recovered from both but there was a problem recovering a good sample of nDNA from the Starchild only. Since both sculls were discovered together getting a good sample from the Starchild should have been successful! MtDNA does not prove the Starchild to have human parents, it only proves it was carried to term by a human female that could have been a surrogate. NDNA now recovered shows SC to be completely Alien!
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi "NDNA now recovered shows SC to be completely Alien!"
Riiiight... and which paper were these results published in? Now, while I'm sure that generalized analogs would most certainly exist in an alien species which evolved in similar environments (consider the evolution of flight in insects, archosaurs, dinosaurs/birds, mammals, even fish) - such a large degree of specific morphological traits would not have evolved in an entirely independent system. You'd need a close common ancestry.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1
What you're proposing isn't even something we observe in our own terrestrial biosphere, so how do you propose that it occurs in a "totally alien" species? Especially since very slight differences in environment can produce very different selective pressures via the butterfly effect.
It'd be as likely as meeting an alien species for the first time at an intergalactic crosswalk and discovering they had independently derived the English language we speak, though with a strange drawl.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
OMG THEY FOUND ET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! lol jokes i dunno wat to think about this
GingaGurl232 1 year ago
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There is absolutely no evidence to support the claims that this skull is anything but human. DNA analyses have indicated that this skull is consistent with a human genome from a skull that is dated to be 900 years old. With its advanced age, the ability of extracting DNA from this skull is complicated as would be expected. However, this cannot be inferred to represent a genome that is somehow not human unto itself. There was certainly enough of a sample to conclude that it was a human.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn That was not the conclusion. !
Misstorys 1 year ago
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@Misstorys Um, yes it was. I suggest that you read the two analyses available and quote from it where you feel that I am incorrect.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@Misstorys I also suggest that you obtain an education at at least an undergraduate level before engaging in a topic that actually requires a solid foundation in biological sciences. I await your reply.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@Misstorys The first analysis done by Sweet at UBC found an X and Y chromosome, providing conclusive evidence that not only was the skull human, but so were both its parents. Unfortunately, Pye wants to sell books, so he disregarded the science that threatened to close down his BS book sales, and has strung gullible people along for years. There has NEVER been any evidence to demonstrate that this skull was anything other than human. SCIENCE EDUCATION!
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn no there wasnt shutup
Fitbike18 1 year ago
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@Fitbike18 Sorry but you are incorrect. There have been two previous analyses doen on this skull, neither of which demonstrated any findings that were inconsistent with human origins of the skull. That you are unable to read the analyses is not the fault of anyone but your own self. How about getting an education?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Maybe im z little uneducated but i hav a long life a head of me to gain knowledge and life experience but what i really want to know is do you really believe there is no other life in our universe?
Fitbike18 1 year ago
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@Fitbike18 What I believe is not important. Your question is speculative and I have no idea one way or the other, no more so than you.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Do you really think you can fool someone with my level of education into believing that you have more than a basic high school education? For your information Lloyd presents findings discovered by scientists. Lloyd is a credible researcher, had you done your research you would know this. Go away, do some real research on the subject and come back with something better than what you have. Explain please what evidence there is as proof that SC is human?
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi just a question....is there any dna evidence to be had from this specimen?
thewhakka 1 year ago
@thewhakka Yes, there is DNA evidence. MtDNA proved a human female carried the child to term. In attempting nDNA recovery problems occurred. A new technique in recovering DNA called BLAST has been used and results were been shocking! Repeated tests recovered DNA more than 300 base pairs long that cannot be found in anything on earth (no creature or plant.) Lloyd has not yet released an official report but will after genome sequencing has been done.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi Yes there are two types of DNA and one is from the mother only.
SuzLa1 1 year ago
@wlfmi
As I understand it, those 300 base pairs are not from a single segment - but are a collection of various fragments totaling 300 base pairs. With such incomplete fragments, you're not going to find a match even on existing species. Even were the segment a single sequence, 300 base pairs is not much to go on.. and since (IIRC) they have not published the program, DB, or parameters they set when doing the search, there's no way to confirm their claim. Poor calibration gives false results.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1 Your understanding is wrong. Each test was capable of retrieving a minimum of 300 base pairs and several tests retrieved thousands of unknown base pairs. An official report has not yet been released but will be released in the near future. The argument we have presented here is a good example of why genome sequencing is needed. Lloyd will release an official report only once genome sequencing has been achieved.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi
Until that supposed report is release, you have nothing except empty assertion. You have an unnamed "geneticist" working for an "unnamed lab" who has released no preliminary research, has not detailed their methodology, has not show any indication of running base line, has no null hypothesis, gives no real indication of sample sizes, and has not had their discoveries independently replicated for verification.
You have "their word", and little else.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1
On a side note, I find the language used on the site to be rather geared towards persuasion. Even going so far as to set themselves up as a pariah with the tired "first they mock, then they fight, then you win" canard. You don't find this kind of language in professional or academic literature, and it's a dead ringer for someone trying convince you they have a hand full of aces when they really don't have jack. Otherwise, the data and it's implications would be all that's needed.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1
I did happen to notice (however), that they claim that some of the nDNA was a match to human chromosome 1, indicating human origin. However, I've also managed to get a 300 bp segment from a common house mouse's SRY gene from it's Y chromosome to correlate with three genes on human chromosome #2, and managed to snag a equal segment of SOX9 from a human Y chromosome to turn up no significant correlation to human DNA.
If your filters are misapplied or intentionally borked, you get junk
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1
I should also point out a fact that an earlier commenter brought up; that the tests done by BOLD turned up standard XY chromosomes. This confirms that the child was human, as there's no good reason (or mechanism) as to why an independently derived species would evolve such a close sex determent analog to our own.
Even if you wanted to make the assertion that Aliens do have XX/XY sex chromosomes, the claim would be unfalsifiable and therefore invalid.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1 those tests done by BOLD were innacurate they did further testing by a more reliable and sophisticated DNA tester and found that only part of the DNA was human the other has never been seen in anything on this planet
Shenmueproject 10 months ago
@Shenmueproject
Are you referring to that uncontrolled test by an unnamed geneticist working and a "confidential" genetics lab? Yeah, they very well may have come back with no known homologous in current gene database, but there are a myriad of ways that result could be reported. It's really not that hard to get a negative return on even well known and prolific genes.
Even were the results accurate, the assumptions needed for ET-GE is hugely disproportionate to what needed for other theories.
Sinuev1 10 months ago
@Sinuev1 I have Lloyd’s word and that’s good enough for me!
Soooo…. You complain that thousands of unrecongnised base pairs are nothing but agree with the BOLD lab that claimed 200 picogrammes out of the 1000 needed for accurate analysis! Trace genetics could not recover nDNA so it’s safe to say that BOLD deifnately did not recover nDNA. The lab cannot claim to have found human X Y chromosomes when tests did not retrieve what was needed for accurate analysis....
wlfmi 1 year ago 14
@wlfmi the type mood system for all humans animal species
aasyran 1 year ago
@wlfmi You have Lloyd's word... a lecturer in alternative knowledge (somehow I doubt that's even a valid field of study) and that's good enough for you?? :D
atheistram 1 year ago
@atheistram Lloyd will tell the truth whether you wish to hear it or not. I have spent some time communicating with Lloyd and find him to be brutally honest. I judge each person by experiences with them and can tell you from my personal experience that Lloyd is no liar. What Lloyd has to say about DNA testing I have no reason to disbelieve since he has not lied about previous testing results. The insults you give against Lloyd is not an argument against the DNA evidence produced by scientists.
wlfmi 1 year ago
@wlfmi He has no evidence of directed panspermia and likely never will (which he is trying to prove). The most evidence he has is that an alien possibly impregnated a human female 900 years ago.
atheistram 1 year ago
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@wlfmi You are an idiot. Any person with an education in science at the level of even an undergraduate would be able to see how bogus this entire story is. The guy is selling books to the gullible and has no clue about the science whatsoever. If there was evidence, why is it not published in peer-reviewed journals? Sorry pal, but you are not even close.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@TheSkepticUn Another intelligent argument???
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi What is your question, or is that it?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
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@TheSkepticUn If you don’t know the answer you must be really stupid!
wlfmi 1 year ago
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@wlfmi How is it considered legitimate science, to on one hand, claim to be using DNA analysis to ascertain the origin of this skull, and yet not follow science the way scientists do? Such inconsistencies make this whole affair a joke. Science is predicated on using the scientific method which includes not drawing conclusions before the evidence is in. Why has Pye assumed that this skull is not human, or has origin as of ET, when there is absolutely no evidence to support this?
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
@wlfmi
So, tests that don't agree with the 'alien' hypothesis will be disregarded and incomplete findings (even if they point towards a human origin) will be trumpeted as proof of said alien theory?
This is not an alien or alien hybrid skull. It's the skull of a poor unfortunate boy, born with a terrible condition.
Believing anything else is a conviction of faith and to quote Nietzsche: "Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies." and "Faith: not wanting to know what is true."
MindlessMeatPuppet 11 months ago
@Sinuev1 Dude, go to Lloyd’s website and read through all the information and then make your comments! END
wlfmi 1 year ago
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a SKULL of a child with the disease Progeria.Thats what it is.
Kingofmean 1 year ago
Makes me want to travel back 900 years and see for myself what this thing could be.
TheThruster24 1 year ago
whats the music on this? i like it
jimbobjuggalo 1 year ago
@jimbobjuggalo Its a song I believe of River dance or Feet of flames. Irisch Celtic.
Misstorys 1 year ago
@jimbobjuggalo its theme tune from the film the last mohicans
Fitbike18 1 year ago
What is this music?
wenaolong 1 year ago
get a life, the skull has a deformation to it, this is not uncommon when inbreeding occures. This would happen when small tribes mated because there were so few people in the distant past. Use your big head not your alien head,
silverpizza100 1 year ago
@silverpizza100 That's exactly what I was thinking! Nice to find someone with a sensible opinion on youtube. It is sad that a lot of people trust and believe everything they read. Where did that come from, religion?
Zoloft61 1 year ago
it's obvious the starchild had some huge medical problem, or he wouldn't have died so young. this is just a medical mystery.
TheAtomicMango 1 year ago
@TheAtomicMango
No it isnt if you look up on the internet or follow the man himself you would KNOW he has proven that the starchild has a Alien-Father from Outer space. And a mother from Earth. He finally did the final Tests.
TELEFOON87 1 year ago
@TELEFOON87 - you trust the internet? i wouldn't...
TheAtomicMango 1 year ago
@TheAtomicMango
Thats why i also trust the man himself. When he finally have done the final test to eximane or whatever to see the real truth about this kids skull blablabla and that was totally AMAZING !!!!! So yes the internet has 50% BS and 50% real truth in it. Its just what you want to trust ! =)
TELEFOON87 1 year ago
WHO AT ROYAL HOLLOWAY DID THE TESTING?
jaybswoosh 1 year ago
quick evolutionist come up with a new primate so you can explain this. Rofl i am suprised though no one put tried to put this skull in the primate to human evolutionary tree.
silentpimpsmak 1 year ago
prob a hydrocephal just sayin
GTA4fanatic118 1 year ago
watch?v=ZC2c-cFDsxc&feature=related
A video people may say demonstrates the anomaly that parallels the star child skull.
SeekTruthinLight 1 year ago
Disorders, not aliens.
Idiots.
Mulitfrog 1 year ago
some chick got abducted and an alien banged her.. she had the baby killed it and buried it outside
cojocoolio 1 year ago
whats the name of this song??
CoolBreezeHT 1 year ago
no, this is definitely not head binding. not sure where you heard that, lol. but I think mainstream science considers it to be a genetic deformity, and/or a congenital disease. Progeria and Hydrocephalus most likely.
zapproowsdower 1 year ago
Hmm this video ignores the evidence that this is a result of head binding...causing a deformed skull on purpose. Such practices were very common in the people of South America in earlier times, as well as all over the world. Many different types were performed including ones to flatten the back of the skull...and others to make dramatic 'cone head' shaped skulls. Many researchers believe this to simply be an unusual form of that practice.
frankensteinmoneymac 1 year ago
WTF does that statement have to do with this video???
ericr530 1 year ago
Did they find a laser gun?
Pourleduc 1 year ago
This is Not Hydrocephaly.
Why?
Simmetry.
Hydrocephalic skuss deform in strange, erratical ways.
This skull is simmetric.
BluelightSpike 1 year ago
That's not a hydrocephalic skull.
OrisLover 2 years ago
I meant "Hydrocephaly" not "hydroclelaphy" of course. In a hurry!
ericr530 2 years ago
According to physiological norms , even if the skull had very severe Hydrocelaphy, it would still have some resembelence of sinus cavities. OK I'm not necessarily saying this is an human/ET but that aspect of the skull is very interesting.
ericr530 2 years ago
It still will have sinus cavities even if it is deformed, this skull does not have sinus cavaties.
ericr530 2 years ago
If this a human-alien hybrid why did they find only one skull? Why didn't the aliens tried with more hybrids in all these billion years?
IMHO it's just an anomaly, like many others these days, but you can build any freaky theory on almost everything you can find.
vega79 2 years ago
@vega79
As far as I'm aware, the skull was found in a cave along with a young adult female...if that helps in any way?
the26thhour 2 years ago
Again if you area of cranial and human pathology exceeds that of eleven physicians who examined the skull please bring forth this new information to light, otherwise your argument is quite weak. I will admit that I am too presumptive to conclude that the skull is an human-alien hybrid, so I will stop assuming that. but as I said all genetic deformitys have been ruled out, if you choose to ignore that fact then that is your problem.
ericr530 2 years ago
Again like several others you need to go back and do more research. The skull has NO SINUS CAVITYS, something even a skull deformed human would be born with and have present. The father could not be determined as human because it did not match any known male genotype. Ok fine I won't say yes it's got to be an alien, if you're not comfortable with it.
The eye sockets are far too shallow to hold human eyes without them protruding from the sockets, risking injury with even slight activity.
ericr530 2 years ago
Why does a deformed skull have to have sinuses? A deformed skull can be any shape or form so long as it's abnormal.
MrJohnnyBQuick 2 years ago
@ericr530 Not necessarily. If the starter gene for the formation of sinus cavities was mutated, or never turned on (very rare in both cases) the skull would have no sinus cavities. However, since this little, deformed kid lived a few years, it is also possible for the sinuses to have been filled in with bone after birth. Make sense?
LovedWife1 1 year ago
@ericr530 "The skull has NO SINUS CAVITYS"
You're an idiot. Look at the goddamned thing. See those two curved structures with the bony protrusion coming down from them? Those curved structures are where the pars orbitalis normally fuse with the nasal bones. That vertical structure is likely the perpendicular plate of the Ethmoid bone.
Why would an "alien child" which had "no sinus cavity" have such nasal correlative structures?
Sinuev1 1 year ago
@Sinuev1 Fuck off, you're late to the table all I left it as is the skull is interesting that's all.
ericr530 1 year ago
@Sinuev1 Pye stated that, I was only repeating it. Who gives a flying fuck what the skull really is, I've got better things to do with my time. Leave me out of your petty exchanges from this point forward.
ericr530 1 year ago
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@Sinuev1 Sadly, you are one of the few educated people on this discussion. It is amazing to read the lunatic fringe out in full force. Funny thing though, the skull is nothing but human, as the two previous analyses demonstrated. Pye is now stringing this circus on for as long as he can to continue to fleece folks of their coin. Sad gullible masses.
TheSkepticUn 1 year ago
How laughable that you suggest my ignorance when you don't even use proper terminology. Brachycephalic is the terminology to identify short skulls such as a Chinese Pug. Hydrocephalic would be the proper term for this skull which has been ruled out because the skull does not exhibit abnormal suturing which is present with this condition. Any genetic deformity has been ruled out. Crop circles aren't genetically tested or radiocarbon dated either to be provable as fake.
ericr530 2 years ago
And your wrong too Frenchie. Examined by 11 Canadian and American physicians. NO GENETIC DEFORMITY-ALL RULED OUT. Do a little research and visit the official website before you make your ignorance known to others.
ericr530 2 years ago
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I read somewhere you don't believe the crop circles... because they're all faked and so on...
But I bet you didn't go to the official crop-circle website to confirm it...
Stating that this "official site" is anything but biased is true ignorance....
]We (scientific community) would have to eliminate every possible explanation before turning to alien...
It's probably not an alien... it looks like a brachycephalic person to me...
Read what's thought of pye on wikipedia...
breeknow 2 years ago
I like this song, what is name please ?
Yes, is a deformity genetic skull cranial ! Nothing more...C'est une excroissance osseuse, d'ou son nom hydrocéphalie...
Agarthalien 2 years ago
Bravo eric530.
At least some of the skepics will accept it as a REAL skull (i've read posts of detractors), and will await the warranted extra testing.
I hope Mr.Lloyd Pye is quickly vindicated.
djoh0000 2 years ago
NOOOOOO! Not BS, how wrong you are. DNA and carbon dated, passed scientific scrutiny. Do some research before you let it slip how misinformed you are.
ericr530 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAH bullshit totaly bull shit..!!!!!!!!!
giertta 2 years ago
theirs proof of hobbits or vilages of midgets
hahayouknowme33 2 years ago
1:28 Starchild looks like an Elf. lol ^.^
eternalpengel87 2 years ago
i guess ther wouldnt be to many questions if the bottom half of the shull wer there and intact right. geeez! the only one of its kind and the main prtion is gone? these people need to get real
hemigod2 2 years ago
The don't need the jaw portion of the skull Einstein, they have already DNA tested the upper portion,it wouldn't make a difference, same DNA either way,and the mother is human but the father is not. Also any deformity both genetic and physically forced, such a cranial binding. Do a little research on genetics and visit the offical Starchild website to educate youself.
ericr530 2 years ago
There are also fibers found in the skull that aren't present in ANY other animal on Earth. Stop being arrogant and proliferating ignorance. Like I said any deformity, both genetic and physically forced HAS BEEN RULED OUT.
ericr530 2 years ago
It's not progeria if that's what you are talking about. All genetic disorders were ruled out when the skull was DNA tested, I guess you weren't paying attention.
ericr530 2 years ago
name of this song?
ronaldszoon 2 years ago 2
1:28 And of course the Starchild drawing is of a WHITE EUROPEAN looking being, because this is entirely the fantasy of white people's imaginations.
Even the eyes are hazel.
TruthandJustice101 2 years ago 2
yeah, white people think they are superior to everything. it is sad if you ask me.
dragnet53 1 year ago
Ok, I suck. Her name is Juliana Wetmore, type that into the search.
Blothdrugkja 2 years ago
You know what that looks like... God, for the life of me I can't remember the disorder's name. There's a little girl that has the worst case in history living at the moment, last name Winters I believe. It's a genetic disorder where the facial bones don't form properly.
Blothdrugkja 2 years ago
What song is that? i like it
Spiritwo1f 2 years ago
If the government has no knowledge of aliens, then why does Title 14, Section 1211 of the code of Federal Regulations, implemented on July 16, 1969, make it illegal for U.S. citizens to have any contact with extraterrestrials or their vehicles?
seandizzy 2 years ago
No kidding and what gives the gov the right to tell us we can't speak with ETs? The f*n gov thinks they own everything. Their time is coming!
NoSkeptics 2 years ago
Aaaa so its a LAW against US zitizens to have contact with aliens or alien technology?
Haha im just thinking about some poor sod getting abducted & anal probed in US & after he gets returned he gets arrested by the Goverment for having been in contact with extraterestials ^^ !
Thank god im not a Yankey, hahaha!
drpravda 2 years ago
this sounds like highlander music. there can be only one!!
franciscobarril 2 years ago
Sorry, but this is... The Last Of The Mohicans Soundtrack.
ksdtzfir 2 years ago
its a grunts skull
David1067s 2 years ago
Not a hydrocephelaus skull,but it does look like a skull of a person who suffers from what is called "progeria"is called.Look up progeria on here and notice how they compare..it is most likely that.
Kingofmean 2 years ago
I know one thing, it was an ugly cunt.
SuperPosition77 2 years ago
progeria?
cartoonbloodshed 2 years ago
WHO KNOWS WHAT IT COULD BE
haha
another phenomas of the world we think we can control
politicalanomaly 2 years ago
maybe it was like that baby that was "born without a face" they show it on discovery health
vicritt23 2 years ago
its ignorant to believe we are the onli ones
nawfside56 2 years ago 19
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Yeah, it's true mexicans are crazy
LuktarGvendur 2 years ago
The people of the world care especially many Americans that know are government is lying to us about extraterrestrial life.
If you don't care about it why would you comment?
im1greatman 2 years ago 2
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Who fucking cares...
1982rf 2 years ago
About aliens?!?! Anyone with half a brain. So not you I guess.
ir0nmaiden13 2 years ago