Cello Chat Vibrato

[VictorStarita]

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[SomewhatSuitable]

If it sounds good, you're doing it right. That's the only rule of music. Make it sound good. Unless you are purposely trying to make it sound bad, then that's the exception. That's why music is awesome!

[shadow3278700]

2:03 thats what she did lol

[snootzie78]

Thanks for the tips. I still have this habit of doing the "door knob" vibrato. How can you get your arm more involved in doing cello vibrato?

[1likestoplaymusic]

great!! Thanks:D

[Teraleja]

I really love your lessons, they are pretty clear about everything. You make it easy to learn. :)

[lynth]

You looking into the camera while polishing your strings was extremely creepy.

[TheTradge]

@azworx ah well sorry, i did not get that =/ it just didn't sound like you were agreeing with me, maybe if you had worded it differently i would have got what you were saying, it just kinda sounded like you were telling me i was stating the obvious! have to say though, there was no need to get so defensive, that was just a little bit rude!

[JusticeConstantine]

Thank you for this video lesson.

[DoUdO1000]

GREAT videos i love them all ...thanks it really helps.

[SatchmoSings]

Vibrato is usually a cheap way of having something sound "nice."

Listen to Toscanini's 1929 recording with The New York Philharmonic of Haydn's "Clock" Symphony; the whole thing is performed with the strings NEVER using any vibrato and the strings are wonderful.

When you can play a piece expressively WITHOUT using vibrato, then you are a REAL player!

Vibrato, while necessary, is all too often a "fallback" cop-out of 2nd rate playing and singing.

[TheAnonyy]

@SatchmoSings Hi could I have the link as I'd like to listen to it, thanks

[SatchmoSings]

@TheAnonyy Gee, you're going to have to BUY it; try "Amazon" and try getting it on "Pearl" vs. RCA BMG.

[dawneclipse1]

And he is more patient. He guides us and makes us understand what vibrato is. Now, i don't even know how cello works, coz my teacher is mad.

[dawneclipse1]

This teacher pwnz my teacher. My teacher is like an idiot, he doesn't teach vibrato and keep asking us to play like a vibrato player. This is why i came here.

[CelloMusic4ever]

My teacher filled like, film cases with popcorn seeds and had us shake them, kinda Like you did with the paper. We did that too, just without the paper. Nice job :)

[BlankoBizarro]

My cello teacher told me it's the same action as pounding on a door with your fist. It's not just your hand but your entire arm. The rolling-finger thing is just wierd to me.

[starryseeas]

You are such a patient teacher who can actually explain things clearly. Thanks for inspiring me to keep at it!

[phrederica1]

Thanks! Very nicely done.

[snootzie78]

A lot of cellists, including myself, use more of a hand vibrato than an arm vibrato. And I'm okay with that. It feels fine to me because I was taught that way. I've had cello instructors, even cello principals, try to change my vibrato technique. I hated it.

[valerieseh]

thank you!!!

[GirlCurl1]

Excellent!!! Clear instructions AND demo!!

[keenboy1310]

Hahaha is that what it's called now? "Polishing the strings"? lol

Awesome lessons. Best I've seen xx

[frogeyedsnuffy]

thank you i have had so much trouble with this it has made a big difference to my vibrato lots to think about thank you

[hezixiao]

great lesson professor!

[YouveStolenMyEyes]

you're a dude.

[BUKO158]

Thank you sir!

[carriefreak78]

this is great! i and 14, play the cello and just mastered vibrato but this would have helped a lot! I also have to teach my orch. class how to do vibrato and you have some good ideas on how to teach it (since my teacher is not a very good teacher! ) i hope i get an A!!

[reynoirjr]

this is awesome. I'm only 12 but I feel like Yo yo ma

[jspangler01]

This guy's lessons are awesome, but the 15 year old in me can only imagine.....  Mom: "Johnny! What are you doing in there?"

John: "Nothing mom! I'm polishing my strings! Go Away!"

Mom: "OK, but if I don't hear vibrato in 5 minutes I'm coming in!"

[skibofilms]

@jspangler01  I would stay out.

[ferbacepi]

really helpful, but now I'm having a little problem with vibrato on thumb positions, because we ought to keep the finger (let's say the third which is the most tricky) and the thumb pressing the strings at the same time, so, could you show the correct technique in this situation please, and maybe some excercises

[TheTradge]

I've always found it much better to think of vibrato as more vibrating up and down the string rather than rolling the finger, I was always taught that rolling your finger up and down was a really bad vibrato technique. try using your forearm as opposed to your wrist to aid your vibrato, it's much simpler and gets a clearer vibrato.

[mfte260]

But if you actually watch his arm and shoulder, you will see that the motion is not being driven by the rolling finger.

[Ravenhunt]

that's what i've mostly heard too....but, as always, i personally think that the best way to dat is to combine both techniques, finding the balance between them..

[dastardlyexpressions]

@TheTradge That is not proper vibrato technique.

I don't know who told you that but they are not qualified as a teacher.

I also used to do that though. It's wrong.

[TheTradge]

@dastardlyexpressions I was taught that by a senior cello professor at the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland, which is one of the best specialist music schools in the country, so I think it's safe to say that he's a qualified teacher =) and it's REALLY bad practice to roll your finger when doing vibrato, its far too fiddly! Who taught that you should roll? They're teaching quite badly if they're teaching like that

[dastardlyexpressions]

@TheTradge It depends on what you meant by your original comment.

I never said Rolling was how

When i hear vibrating i think of an elbow/shoulder shaking which uses a lot of tension

[scorcher219396]

@TheTradge that's the way you do vibrato on a violin or viola, but on cello the correct form is to roll your finger.

its hard to maintain a smooth bend if you are trying to keep pressure on the string and slide it up and down the string

[gifu1960]

Very dynamic and gifted teacher.

[xangelicxscarsx]

this was extremely helpful!

thanks! :)

[IncomCorporation]

Are there different styles of vibrato in different eras? My teacher is trying to teach me a very different style to the one I've learnt, both of which are different to this, My teacher says I shudder too much, but I find it's the only way to get a nice sound.

[joecgoodman]

very gifted teacher!

[BloodyDarkLife]

This rocks. Its true about the tension.. and I like how he gives wrong examples cuz then I avoid doing so. ^^

[Alexjr1543]

Thanks for the tip! One of the problems, when I do vibrato, though, is that my finger slips half the time and I end up playing a Z# instead of a B.

[Sil0Size]

Watch my Bach rap ^^

[grimrepr]

I love your tutorials thanks..... I'm looking forward to getting a cello and learning how to play! :D

[lessienboring]

helpful, thank you

[Magicsecrets153]

that really helped thank u

[ASJfilms]

this has been very helpful, thank you AlamoCityCello

[bleachbaby305]

This helps a lot. It hard for me to do vibrato on the cello.

[boroskihosenheif]

nicely done, thank you

[Selendomono]

i would try this all the time when i played the viola. it is so difficult on a physical instrument but i do it great with my voice. keep trying everyone do it better than i did :P

[verona123]

great thank you!

[starb678]

thnx.....the tip are very heplful.....very good teacher

[vinchenzo54]

lol quarters, eighths, triplets, sixteenths, infinity!

... i like that

[YT2ndAcct]

You talk too much. Less talk, more play.

[69ufcchamp]

why cant i see the video

i liked this video :) ID

[Fwuzeem]

Man, rotating your forearm? ain't it the whole arm?

[chainstoking]

easy "alldayDS", get yourself a real teacher.

[pinkcottencandi]

WHAT A GREAT TEACHER!!!! ThAnkS :/

[xosarahjessicaxo]

my teacherr has been trying to mkae me do this for the last to years loll

maybe i should finally learn ahahha

[alldayDS]

i cant do this! my left hand is useless anyone have an idea how i can improve my left hand coordination?

[ItamiHikari]

Thanks a lot, I've been playing for years, but vibrato somehow has always escaped me- I'll be sure to try your helpful tricks. You're a good teacher! =)

[whiteknight505]

for vibrato you have to move the arm up and down not the hand

[FeuermannFilms]

Both. And for speed in vibrato you should look the piece style. You dont want to play Bach with a fast romantic vibrato. Well, you can, but is it not the idea (if you know what I mean).

[snootzie78]

@whiteknight505 Not necissarily. I see a lot of cellists, including myself ,use more hand movement than arm movement. And I'm ok with that. 

[swsalvamex]

you do it a little too slow

[KrnBlackWannabe]

You change the pace of vibrato depending on the style of piece you are playing.

[andypsk]

Vibrato is meant to be bent under the pitch not over.

[warrenmusic]

opinion

[phenomenonatwork]

Some people say its supposed to bend under the pitch, while others say its supposed to go under and over. The latter sounds much more bright and strong. Some people use both in combination for the best results.

[oboeman88]

If the vibrato is bent under the pitch you will sound flat.

[oboeman88]

That comment was for andypsk.

[tableecker]

this is by far your funniest video- from you rubbing your cello to exclaiming infinite to jiggling your arm. still very informative though...you are helping me learn the cello! thanks!

[sprtrmp88keys]

I want a cello.

[Lchsloy92]

Me too...

[TheLizard17]

I just bought one on ebay! it's getting to me in some days... I look forward to it!

[Deathmetalminion]

hahahaha great lesson man but I was waiting for that cello to cum all over the back wall haha

[blondygirl72]

lol nice it looks like ur masturbating when u do that excercise

[cellochic]

Thanks for this, it really helped. I learned vibrato wrong, so this is giving me alittle practice to make it sound better.

[ultimatefrisbee01]

Cool this is just what I need!

[juliet32508]

Really nice lesson!

[teadora98]

Please tell me ur being sarcastic.

[evellyness]

Im a beginner cellist and one of the most difficult things for both my arms to do different things or knowing what the other arm is doing. Im glad that you mentioned it. I found this quite helpful.

[passit12345]

vibrato is not a wrist rotation. it comes from the shoulder. polishing the string is the only legitimate tecnique for practicing it.

[passit12345]

vibrato is not a wrist rotation. it comes from the shoulder. polishing the string is the only legitimate tecnique for practicing it.

[Erinlove90]

on the cello,when you hold the bow and play at the sametime,how can you stop your pinky finger from moving back where your thumb is by the frog?

[anubis5687]

I'm attempting to teach myself how to play; however, this is probably one instrument that shouldn't be self-taught. This guy could be a sub. Dont know if what he says is right thought...guess that's the rub.

[bloodsucker1992]

Actually....All instrument is better off played by yourself...for it tunes the ear and it makes a better playing by having YOURSELf and not soem else teeling you what is not and is

[cellodude1]

I did not like the cone shaped thing. I think when playing with any vibrato your hand should be free, which is stated in this video but yet you still restrict the hand by keeping it in a cone shape.

[candyboys]

Well I Have 2 Years Playing Cello. And Im Pretty Badass. I Use Fast Vibrato. Yay I Can Play Barbie Girl xD

[LadyGalactica]

I think this is a really informative lesson. I really appreciate that you show and explain the pitch and the proper hand position. Vibrato is a frustrating experience especially if you are doing incorrectly. You don't show off in the lesson like so many others do. Right on John! Fab lesson!

[JustinKroger]

Yea baby, you polish those strings.!

That's hot!

[Enix5548]

Fast vibrato is I think most commonly used by professionals because they were taught by people who used fast vibrato. Most of the teachers were probably Europeanized or actually Europeans themselves. Anyway don't use fast vibrato unless your vibrato is VERY constant and you are able to match it well with the piece.

[gucker07]

The tips here are still useful for beginners I guess. I'm doing it just the way he describes it, by rotating my forearm.

[gucker07]

Hehe, I never really practiced vibrato, I came to me naturally. I don't even know when I started doing it.

[passit12345]

Hi. Great video. does vibrato have to include a wrist rotation? My teacher only taught me the polishing the string technique.

[ClaudiaDenise]

cool... it helps XD

[Apocalypticafan1992]

good lesson thanks

[killstarbucks]

Just how long will it take to learn Vibrato.

I've been playing for a few years now and I still can't do it.

[PatNarvaes]

very very good lesson

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

(continued) My only problem with this video is its lack of emphasis on the physical aspects of vibrato. He doesn't really explain that the only way to be able to do vibrato is if the joints in your fingers are loose. Knowing this, there are actually ways for beginners to practice vibrato without their instrument/ in class.

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

Vibrato takes years to master. The true secret to expression with vibrato is speed. A lot of players think that playing with a slower but wider vibrato (particularly in slower pieces) is the solution but if you listen to any virtuoso player their vibrato speed only changes marginally in slow music. This most expressive players have all used a consistently fast vibrato. Listen to Christian Ferras play the slower 2nd movement of the Sibelius concerto and you can see what I mean.

[kgroover]

It's a matter of taste. There is no "right" vibrato, just standard and non-standard. That's the difference between being an orchestra hack and being an artist. An orchestra hack learns how to imitate the "right" way, an artist is creative and sometimes intentionally does things the "wrong" way.

[AbsoluteZ3R0]

You're right, except for the fact that EVERY great artist uses a fast vibrato, of course, the speed/width/focus is always different, but they all have a generally quick vibrato, I have never listened to any great soloist with a normal/slow vibrato

[kgroover]

That last comment was a response to AbsoluteZ3R0's comment below. I thought YouTube nested the comments.

[hokdipper]

thanks for a great video!!! :D

[Ilikemycello]

Great video! I pretty much learned my vibrato by looking at my friends, cause i don't take private lessons, This has been a GREAT help. Thanks!

[ttay1122]

vibato is soooo much easier than violin u guy hav it lucky

[once0upon0whatever]

No, he is not!!! Everybody learns vibrato differently and this helped me so much!!!

[josephineinlove]

this damn thing is stupid and i say STUPID!!!! come one i learn cello all my life and my teacher never EVER thouhgt that before!!!! he is wrecking the vibrato!!!! he is doing overboard!!!!!! don't listen to him!!!!! even the best cellist in the world don't teach like that!!!!! he is teaching you the wrong thing!

[shadowrought]

if you know vibrato so well, don't down this person who was nice enough to make a video lesson, show us your way and viewers can make their own choices.

[blondygirl72]

nice vids appreciated

[melloki76]

Thanks! As a guitar player who is trying to learn cello this was very helpful. Vibrato on the guitar is executed differently and I've had some difficulty making the transition. Much appreciated!

[kakkorotcky]

Thanks, I've been trying this on my own, but this really makes it easier. Keep up the good work.

[Jangof3tt]

I have a request. Can you please do a lesson on Cole? (pronounced Co-lay) I don't really know how to spell it but it has to do with playing fast and the joints in your fingers. I sort of get it but it would be helpful if you could explain it more.

[Musacell]

ok this is really nice, but i was thinking that it would be helpful if you made a video on how to do it with ur other fingers because i really have problems when i want to do it and i dont want to be sliding all the time specially 3 and 4 fingers wich are weaker.please and tnxs!

[wallyfan]

Thanks for the vibrato lession man. i have been playing for 4 years and still can't get it.

[jennahemmena]

ive been playing for 3 years at school, and i cant nail my vibrato, im so uncoordinated in my left hand!!

[snootzie78]

I'm a cellist myself and just wanted to say thanks for the vibrato tips. Another couple of fun tricks that I teach my beginner cello student is get a small box of Tic-Tacs or M&Ms and use a metronome to count how many shakes, and make sure they land on the downbeat. Another one I learned from another great cello instructor is to pretend like you're shaking a soda can--the faster you shake, the bigger it'll fizz.

[crazyguitarist57]

hey almocitycello

u rock

[TheOriginalEntz]

I could do vibrato easily but it is very sloppy. Thanks for the tips :)

[maxomilian]

wow you learned vibrato before slurring..

lol

its easy all you do is play two or more notes in one bow stroke.

[BowInYourFace03]

hey:)

this video helped me alot since were doing a sheet of music for a concert in october and it has some of vibrato in it,

but it also has slur's and well i really think you should make a video doing slur's since well i really really dont know how to do them and lol..i know its weird but still...

so if you could make a video of that then thank you so much it would be so helpful.

[MrHal]

I Want to learn to play cello, is teaching yourself difficult ? Or just in relation to your exsisting musical skill ?

[postmodernhousewife]

you totally need a teacher. Rent a cello and get lessons if you have to. There are too many things that you just can't pick up on your own, especially when starting out - you don't want to have to re-learn.

[MrHal]

lol i've already started and am finding everything ok for now, learning from my jazz books, I sort of have a teacher in the way of a grade 8 cello player at my convenience, also alot of cellists from around college are helping

[postmodernhousewife]

well if you've got an 8th grade cellist advising that's something, it isn't like you're out on your own learning from a book.

[DisorientedMuffin]

Polishing the strings was quite funny, one would have to admit, but thanks for the lesson, and vibrato is far easier on the Cello then on a smaller violin.

[pitasslayer]

i polish my "strings" every day

[gardner356]

haha!!! wow.

[hijackn2890]

god damn a cello is a phallic instrument

[googlydorken]

i tried polishing my strings :D

[darkangel10001]

practice makes permanent!

[bailey8181]

Maximum Oscillation! Excellent....

Also, more basketball analogies please. I'd like to see how far you can take it.

[violinxpiano]

i never played cello before...so my friend handed me hers. I sat down and played a very out of tune scale WITH VIBRATO!!! my vibrato sounded amazing. so how come mine stinks so much on the violin lol???

[MiakoKoneo]

vobrato is so much easier on a cello then on a viola or volin :D

[darkangel10001]

but i would be glad if there is any video that would show us the proper way of vibrato in violin....

is the vibrato on the cello different in violin or viola?

well i hope it is not....

[Wolfsrain90]

It is. If you use a cellist's vibrato, you won't get the full, effectual resonance of the violin.

[aguileralopez]

So useful!!! Thank-you very much; please keep making videos. Excellent.

[citruspunk]

I'm a flute player, but I still find your videos entertaining and informative. Insightful! :)

[nejopichot]

Thank you. I'll try your techniques. When I perform vibrato my cello moves, and my secnd finger can't vibrate.

[lavinfung]

I go from the other way.. I can do vibrato on classical guitars and I found that it was easier to apply back on cello playing.

[dorkette321]

Its not celloist, its cellist.

[TheTradge]

Yeah I was going to say too lol

[Paragons7]

I'm not a celloist but I have a fretless guitar this helped out a lot with figuring out the vibrato classical players use

[moman1208]

this has been helpful. i actually taught myself vibrato and this has improved my teqnique

[musictoujoursmusic]

thank you from paris

[ChappyLip]

thanks. but i have trouble with the pinky.

[Tapiocaaaa]

Yeah, me too. I think you can bring the third finger down to 'help out', sort of, to give it more pressure. I really struggle doing C string vibrato, though.

[lonelyheart]

I think I'm gonna be joining your cello camp in June.

^_^

[Max3851]

Hello John...Matthew Turner hear...remember busking in Boston? Nice vids

[sikabotofatty]

i ask the same question...would this be helpful for violin?

[2emotional2]

thats sooo imposible , i've tried

[ovad1122]

your rotating motion is too much like violin which most of our technique is unlike violin and thumb never leave the neck

sory to be so critical

[aroundtheclock]

Good job at explaining the vibrato!

[swimhappy94]

wow i wish u were my teacher

[ivorybow]

Sooo easy to criticize. This really saved me from my lousy former techinique. Thanks so much.

[Eireann3]

thank you so much for these videos it's really so helpful! thanks!!!!

[barevalo]

would this be helpful for violin?

[Carnage21]

Why the hell did you say you were Oliver Aldort's mother on another piece?

[demohunto3]

lol which piece?

[theuppercut]

jesus i heard my brother playing this noise on the 8th notes it sounded like a dying horse or something, or the movie dumb and dumber where jim carey ask the man who's kidnapping him, if he'd like to hear "The most annoying noise on the world" LOL

[motoxchamp321]

LOL!

[cisnorre]

Great lesson, very useful for me. Thanks.

[TheTradge]

vibrato can be rather difficult when you're further up the fingerboard