Wonderful talent! What a shame that so many of these wonderful organs were just destroyed because they were no longer "in style." What a silly world we live in!
Part 2 THIS song would not be played as briskly with out the use of the "syndine" action for the tab stops. I would often get fusterated holding the piston button in waiting for all the tabs to finnish moving. Anyway i would love to see more videos of his demonstrations or chamber tours if possible i may be attending the palace later this month.
@Marshall7302 Correction. The reason you would have to "hold a piston in for all the tabs to finish moving, is because that console may have mechanical problems. You have obviously never sat at a pneumatic console that works 100% and well-adjusted.
Having said that, I will say that as a professional theatre organist that has played concerts now for a number of years, my honest opinion is quite the contrary. Pneumatic consoles are far FASTER than console with SAM's in them.
@Marshall7302 Why do you think so many people have often said that player pianos, Duo-Arts and AMPICO reproducing piano are far more accurate and can play with much quicker articulation than a piano with solenoid actions.
I speak from experience, SAM's are "not" always quicker...pneumatics will always be the quickest. Same reason why Wurlitzers and Mortons with their multiple-pneumatic chests are LIGHTENING FAST, vs. that of a "Direct Electric" chest. D.E. chests are very sluggish...like SAM's
@RonRizzy Not entirely correct, a * properly* adjusted Direct Electric (TM) magnet, operating on the correct voltage (this is truely VERY important!!!), can be made to operate, and repeat its cycle faster than a pipe can physically speak, and on high pressure at that (with current high pressure units).
@Marshall7302 The REASON he is able to do 5,127,448,316,427 piston changes is because there are 5,127,448,316,427 pistons at his disposal. Would you want to hear him attempt this "same" arrangement with the same registrations on a 3/10 Wurlitzer with only 10 divisional pistons?......
@RonRizzy lol,agreed on the piston changes im used to an organ that has only about 10 inchs console pressure. it has since been restored its a 4\32 Opus #1953 shes into her 80s with the original leather. Now i do agree with you 100% on the actions as far as the relay being extremly fast considering her age .. there was NO delay last time i played her before the restoration of the entire relay system but her combination actions were slow to respond not like the altogether action of this organ.
@RonRizzy If you have a really ample power supply and run the voltage on the high end, a SAMS console can be as snappy as you want it to be. I have a single (but good sized) power supply powering 117 SAMS that is quite quick, even on GC with all stops down (not that you'd ever play like that!) . No lag, and I've done changes as fast and involved as you see here, but on much more modern music. Some of these SAMS are 1930's Reisners, still going strong.
Part 1: ive commented on this video already but im just letting raikaljok know that i watch this video EVERY DAY.... and every day i watch it a half a dozen times... and one of the things that blows me away... besides Jelanis tallent and abillity but... there are OVER 50 combination changes durring the song. As much as a hard core Wurlitzer theater organ PUREST if there is such a thing regarding the electro pneumatic relay and the pneumatic action consoles
It's sad Jasper Sanfilippo doesn't open his Place De La Musique often, because his collection is mind-boggling. Unless you're a theatre player or are well-connected, otherwise; you can't get close. and that's sad to not expose the instrument...
Could someone help me out. I love the sound of the Wurlitzers but have no idea how to play or of a lot of things that bolt the organ together. What the hell are those devices with the springs on from
1:43 to 2:07. I am going to take a guess at them being some kind of vibrato . Could someone clarify for me please. Thanks.
Those springs are parts of air reservoirs which regulate wind pressure. Formerly they used weights but they made this action unsteady. The use of springs was an invention of Robert Hope-Jones (British) and John Austin (American).
As you can see reservoirs are very different than in classical organs. Watch my video Sydney Grand Organ Inside or Bamboo Organ of Las Piñas.
Vibrato is created by tremulants. They locate in the same room but unfortunately none of them is not seen in the video.
@raikaljok - the classical organ developed closer to the theatre organ than you might think, with countless types of sliderless chest, even totally unified tonal schemes (particularly those of Compton, where each extended rank has its own chest). By the way, I love theatre organs but anyone who uses Tibias and tremulants together ought to be banned from playing ever again... truly nauseating.
This theatre organ and the Wurlitzer at Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, AZ are the two largest theatre organs in the world. In fact, the one at Organ Stop Pizza is mentioned at the largest theatre organ in a "public place".
@tempetiger The organ at the Organ Stop Pizza is indeed the largest FOUR manual collected organs running right now. it being currently i think 4/73 or something in the 70s. This is 5/81 currently. REGARLESS both organs are awesome, and just as capable of anything given the right organist. I could be wrong , but i believe the sanpillippo organ has more classical collections in ranks.
Thank you Kawhackita. My ! that is a mighty WurliTzer !! I suppose it must be a combination of several instruments because (as far as I know) the old WurliTzer company never made an organ above 56 ranks or so. Is that correct ? Just about the largest in-use WurliTzer we have in England at present is the 4-manual 20 rank instrument preserved in Stockport Town Hall. It is a Publix No 1 instrument, a rarity outside the U.S.A.
Thank you raikaljok for that info. I think that Radio City Organ was the one I must have been thinking of and Jesse Crawford used to play it. Is that organ still in the theatre ? Be nice if it is !
tadaaaa "bravo"
Gridrummer 4 weeks ago
Wonderful talent! What a shame that so many of these wonderful organs were just destroyed because they were no longer "in style." What a silly world we live in!
kathyk243 11 months ago
tämä kaveri soitta erittäin hyvin!
MrKeys57 1 year ago
Part 2 THIS song would not be played as briskly with out the use of the "syndine" action for the tab stops. I would often get fusterated holding the piston button in waiting for all the tabs to finnish moving. Anyway i would love to see more videos of his demonstrations or chamber tours if possible i may be attending the palace later this month.
Marshall7302 1 year ago
@Marshall7302 Correction. The reason you would have to "hold a piston in for all the tabs to finish moving, is because that console may have mechanical problems. You have obviously never sat at a pneumatic console that works 100% and well-adjusted.
Having said that, I will say that as a professional theatre organist that has played concerts now for a number of years, my honest opinion is quite the contrary. Pneumatic consoles are far FASTER than console with SAM's in them.
RonRizzy 1 year ago
@Marshall7302 Why do you think so many people have often said that player pianos, Duo-Arts and AMPICO reproducing piano are far more accurate and can play with much quicker articulation than a piano with solenoid actions.
I speak from experience, SAM's are "not" always quicker...pneumatics will always be the quickest. Same reason why Wurlitzers and Mortons with their multiple-pneumatic chests are LIGHTENING FAST, vs. that of a "Direct Electric" chest. D.E. chests are very sluggish...like SAM's
RonRizzy 1 year ago
@RonRizzy Not entirely correct, a * properly* adjusted Direct Electric (TM) magnet, operating on the correct voltage (this is truely VERY important!!!), can be made to operate, and repeat its cycle faster than a pipe can physically speak, and on high pressure at that (with current high pressure units).
opus1280 11 months ago
@Marshall7302 The REASON he is able to do 5,127,448,316,427 piston changes is because there are 5,127,448,316,427 pistons at his disposal. Would you want to hear him attempt this "same" arrangement with the same registrations on a 3/10 Wurlitzer with only 10 divisional pistons?......
RonRizzy 1 year ago
@RonRizzy lol,agreed on the piston changes im used to an organ that has only about 10 inchs console pressure. it has since been restored its a 4\32 Opus #1953 shes into her 80s with the original leather. Now i do agree with you 100% on the actions as far as the relay being extremly fast considering her age .. there was NO delay last time i played her before the restoration of the entire relay system but her combination actions were slow to respond not like the altogether action of this organ.
Marshall7302 1 year ago
@RonRizzy If you have a really ample power supply and run the voltage on the high end, a SAMS console can be as snappy as you want it to be. I have a single (but good sized) power supply powering 117 SAMS that is quite quick, even on GC with all stops down (not that you'd ever play like that!) . No lag, and I've done changes as fast and involved as you see here, but on much more modern music. Some of these SAMS are 1930's Reisners, still going strong.
steamrocks 4 months ago
Part 1: ive commented on this video already but im just letting raikaljok know that i watch this video EVERY DAY.... and every day i watch it a half a dozen times... and one of the things that blows me away... besides Jelanis tallent and abillity but... there are OVER 50 combination changes durring the song. As much as a hard core Wurlitzer theater organ PUREST if there is such a thing regarding the electro pneumatic relay and the pneumatic action consoles
Marshall7302 1 year ago
I've been there a couple times. A collection beyond words. Marvelous. If you can.. you MUST see it at least once.
monkeywho 2 years ago
This is certainly one awesome TPO!!! I would LOVE to get the opportunity to see and hear it in person sometime!!
acoustics101 2 years ago
It's sad Jasper Sanfilippo doesn't open his Place De La Musique often, because his collection is mind-boggling. Unless you're a theatre player or are well-connected, otherwise; you can't get close. and that's sad to not expose the instrument...
shnewsman 2 years ago 2
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jamalam17z7 2 years ago
Raikaljok. Many thanks for the explanation. I was way off with my thoughts. Ha ha. Excellent video by the way.
myszka1uk 2 years ago
Could someone help me out. I love the sound of the Wurlitzers but have no idea how to play or of a lot of things that bolt the organ together. What the hell are those devices with the springs on from
1:43 to 2:07. I am going to take a guess at them being some kind of vibrato . Could someone clarify for me please. Thanks.
myszka1uk 2 years ago
Those springs are parts of air reservoirs which regulate wind pressure. Formerly they used weights but they made this action unsteady. The use of springs was an invention of Robert Hope-Jones (British) and John Austin (American).
As you can see reservoirs are very different than in classical organs. Watch my video Sydney Grand Organ Inside or Bamboo Organ of Las Piñas.
Vibrato is created by tremulants. They locate in the same room but unfortunately none of them is not seen in the video.
raikaljok 2 years ago
@raikaljok - the classical organ developed closer to the theatre organ than you might think, with countless types of sliderless chest, even totally unified tonal schemes (particularly those of Compton, where each extended rank has its own chest). By the way, I love theatre organs but anyone who uses Tibias and tremulants together ought to be banned from playing ever again... truly nauseating.
TheMysticalOrgan 1 month ago
@TheMysticalOrgan then if you don't like tremmed tibias, you don't like theatre organ.. lol
Dojora4 1 month ago
@Dojora4 - rubbish! I love theatre organs, I love the way some play them, I just can't stand the trembling full tibia sound...
TheMysticalOrgan 1 month ago
Those are a type of bellow that helps keep even pressure to the pipes.
manga12 1 month ago
This theatre organ and the Wurlitzer at Organ Stop Pizza in Mesa, AZ are the two largest theatre organs in the world. In fact, the one at Organ Stop Pizza is mentioned at the largest theatre organ in a "public place".
tempetiger 2 years ago
@tempetiger The organ at the Organ Stop Pizza is indeed the largest FOUR manual collected organs running right now. it being currently i think 4/73 or something in the 70s. This is 5/81 currently. REGARLESS both organs are awesome, and just as capable of anything given the right organist. I could be wrong , but i believe the sanpillippo organ has more classical collections in ranks.
Marshall7302 1 year ago
How many ranks of pipes has this marvellous sounding and looking instrument ?
Wnoronz 3 years ago
80 ranks and I think over 200 stoptabs (of course because it is unified).
KawhackitaRag 3 years ago
Thank you Kawhackita. My ! that is a mighty WurliTzer !! I suppose it must be a combination of several instruments because (as far as I know) the old WurliTzer company never made an organ above 56 ranks or so. Is that correct ? Just about the largest in-use WurliTzer we have in England at present is the 4-manual 20 rank instrument preserved in Stockport Town Hall. It is a Publix No 1 instrument, a rarity outside the U.S.A.
Wnoronz 3 years ago
The largest theatre organ the old Wurlitzer company made was 4/58 Opus 2179 for the Radio City Music Hall in 1932.
raikaljok 2 years ago
Thank you raikaljok for that info. I think that Radio City Organ was the one I must have been thinking of and Jesse Crawford used to play it. Is that organ still in the theatre ? Be nice if it is !
Wnoronz 2 years ago
Yes, it is in use as Michael Baron writes in his Mailbag: "... it is still regularly used, though not as frequently as in prior days."
raikaljok 2 years ago
thank you raikaljok for your information. Nice to know it is still there. Being used for some of the time is better than not being used at all !
Thanks again !
Wnoronz 2 years ago
Wow that's a lot of trem tabs!
m4dan 3 years ago
This is definitely one of my favorite recordings on the CD I have of him playing Leroy Anderson selections. Wish I could have heard it live!
m4dan 3 years ago
No question. Molto meglio del nostro tempo!
chem100 3 years ago
Five Stars!! Jelani is truly the finest organist of our time.
missourifatman 3 years ago 2