In order to be Macedonian you have to be greek and speak greek....XD greece is full of fucking retards,how can you be greek and be macedonian at the same time you fucking idiots,and if you are macedonian you should be speaking macedonian not some fake bullshit like greek,got nothing else to do and stealing our history,well you either pull your shit together Greece and start working cause soon enought you will fall and be somebody s BITCH,stop with this bullshit now or suffer,your choise FGR...
@KamaraX50 nice try Vardaskian with blood from Yugoslavia.Were we get this names/ axaxaxaxaxa that is your country name after the Yugoslavia break up.and something else Vardaskian why you never use the name ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ as your nationality name before WW2 ?Write in google Vardaskia and also maps myabe you learn something
"For I (Alexander I) myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery."
(Herod. IX, 45, 2 [Loeb])
Thucydides:
"The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia ... Alexander I, the father of Perdiccas (II), and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos."
"They say that these were the tribes collected by Amphiktyon himself in the Greek Assembly: ... the Macedonians joined and the entire Phokian race ... In my day there were thirty members: six each from Nikopolis, Macedonia and Thessaly..."
The Peloponnesians that were with the fleet were ... the Lacedaimonians, ... the Corinthians, ... the Sicyonians, ... the Epidaurians, ... the Troezenians, ... the people of Hermione there; all these, except the people of Hermione, were of Dorian and Macedonian stock and had last come from Erineus and Pindus and the Dryopian region."
@KamaraX50 ncient texts containing echoes of fragments of a very old lost epic about Aigimios say that the Dorians stood in danger of attack by the Lapiths, that the king of the Dorians, Aigimios, sought the help of Heracles in return for the reward mentioned above, and that Heracles repulsed the Lapiths and established the Dorians in a region from which he had driven out the Dryopians
@KamaraX50 It follows that the race which was led by Aigimios and helped by Heracles was not yet the Dorians but the Macedonians. Heracles here is no more than the representative of a people in central Sterea Hellas. One of the texts mentioned above says that Aigimios people at the time of the Lapith attacks were in Histiaiotis; others imply that they had already reached the northern part of present-day Sterea Hellas.
@KamaraX50 The second version must be the earlier one, because it tallies with the mention of the alliance of the people who are represented by Heracles. The mention of the Lapiths as enemies of the Dorians, i.e. the Macedonians, does not conflict with this version since, as we have seen, there are traces of Lapith settlements in the Spercheios Valley.
@KamaraX50 The Dorians of the historical period were divided into three tribes: Hylleis, Dymanes, and Pamphyloi. The eponymous heroes of the Dymanes and the Pamphyloi were believed to be the sons of Aigimios who had led the Dorians to Doris. The eponymous hero of the Hylleis was said to be the son of Heracles who had acquired one third of Aigimios kingdom for helping him against the Lapiths.
@KamaraX50 You able to understand all these dear Vardaskian kamara?Ican tell you much more but more your small Vardaskian mind can't understand HAVE A NICE DAY AND YOU ARE WELCOME IN MAKEDONIA ANYTIME YOU WISH
@KamaraX50 "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD)."
@KamaraX50 "We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great." "Greece is FYROM'S second largest trading partner, and its number one investor. Instead of opting for war, we have chosen the mediation of the United Nations, with talks on the ambassadorial level under Mr. Vance and Mr. Nimitz." In reply to another question about the ethnic origin of the people of FYROM, Ambassador Achevska stated that "we are Slavs and we speak a Slav language."
@KamaraX50 4 February 1999: In an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM'S Ambassador to Canada, admitted, "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
@KamaraX50 "Bulgarian historians say FYROMIANS are of Bulgarian origin and their language developed from a Bulgarian dialect," something that you deny.
If you are not the ancestors of Alexander The Great
why you want to use his symbols his culture his name
his history and claim the whole Macedonian land as your own
when you only came in Macedonian land on the 6th century (A.D.)?
@KamaraX50 DORIANS (Macedonians were Dorians as were the Spartans)
Legends which survived among the Dorian's and which have come down to us through Pindar, Herodotus and other ancient writers, say that the earliest ancestors of the Dorians were Makednoi (that is, Macedonians), who migrated to Doris from Pindos, more precisely from the Lakmos region.
@KamaraX50 Since it has already been seen that the Dorians took their name from Doris, where they formed themselves into one ethnic group by the union of the local inhabitants and the newcomers, it can readily be inferred that the name Makednoi and the mention of Pindos as their original homeland do not refer to the whole of the Dorian tribe but just to one of its component groups - not the Hylleis, however, because these had settled in present-day Sterea Hellas earlier.
The greeks was never a KINDOM. Stop steeling the MAKEDONIAN history and bild youre own History. All this KINGS are MAKEDONIAN KINGS.Apostel Paulus say in his dream he see a MAKEDONIAN and he say " come to help us in MACEDONIA and never ELLADA . STOP Brainwishing and Hellenes the MACEDONIANS. ellada WAS NEVER MACEDONIA.
@nespijam1 why do you speak bulgaran language why evirithing ancient item etc was writen in the greek why did they worship the same god why did spread hellenism why did they partipicate at Olympics ? Alexander to Eumenes, his personal writer to write the following message Your ancestors had invaded Macedonia and the rest Greece and had done great damage Myself as leader of all Greeks came in Asia to punish you Message to Darius
@nespijam1 go and fuck yourself fucking idiots the macedonias speak greek and that times you don't even exist your history began with Tito xaxaxaxaxa thieves you make the biggest wrong you want to steal someone history because you don't have but you make the wrong choise you look to high you can not steal the Hellenic history because simply Vardaskian you can not.First you claim Samuil and now Alexander the Great but for your bad luck he was born in Pella from greek parets .Get a life
@nespijam1 HAHAHAHA!like this baby who laughes on the video;)makedonian is a greek language!is like in germany:bayern and köln!or how in switzerland: bern and zurich!or like in serbia: novisad and nis!did you ever heared from dialect?makedonia is a greek part in greece like athens or peleponnes!how old are you my dear?
FYROM PRESIDENT KIRO GLIGOROV: "WE ARE SLAVS - THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN US AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT .. WE CAME HERE IN THE 6TH CENTURY AFTER CHRIST"
Obviously you have a poor grip on reality you tiny Bulgar-Slav children in the Vadar, the Kingdom of Μακεδονία , Provincia Macedoniae (Επαρχία Μακεδονίας),Dioecesis Macedoniae (Διοίκησις Μακεδονίας), Theme of Macedonia (θέμα Μακεδονίας) the Modern Macedonia (region), and the modern Μακεδονία in Greece and FYR Republika Makedonija (Република Македонија), are 7 completely different things.
Would you like me to explain? I am a historian and Classicist I can give you assistance.
People from the macedonian region must accept the simple truth that they are pure bulgarians. And Alexander the Great is greek. Once they do that, finally they will have a motherland. Cause right now - all they have is some fake shithole, with everything in it stolen.
@jastvo Also I study Theoritical Anthropology.The majority of the greeks in macedonia even if some have mixed with slavs,have the same dna with their ancestors no matter if they are 80% or 90% macedonians by blood.
You have thousands?I personaly mailed igenea for the bullshit is said and they told me they removed that research simply because they clues,the time,their sources all were so few and they did mistakes too that it was not right.
For christ sake i study in England kid,your people are South Slavs not Macedonians
I ensure you there are a lot.
Just because part of ancient macedonia was in fyrom too does not mean it should be named macedonia
Ancient macedonia was in bulgaria too.
Ancient greek ruins are in Italy (Should i say that south italians have in their majority greek dna?),Turkey,Yugoslavia,Egypt and even in England and Scotland!!!!
@TheLolizzZ I totally agree. But please dont call them south slavs or something like that. They are mixed from slavs and Bulgars, when in 680 khan Kuber arrived in Macedonia (bulgarian khan) from the Old Great Bulgaria which at that time was in modern Ukraine. Khan Asparuh, who was brother of khan Kuber. After the victory in 681 over the Byzantines, Danube Bulgaria was created. Later Khan Krum conquered Macedonia. It was Bulgarian territory until 1018. And again from 1205 - to the turk invasion
ARISTOTELIS WAS FROM SKOPIE !! ASPASIA AND PERIKLIS WERE FROM ALBANIA !! AHAHAHAH !! THA TRELATHOUME TELEIOS !! VRADAGASKAR IS YOUR NAME AND NO MACEDONIA !! MACEDONIA IS HELLENIC !!
Even Gotse Deltchev,the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader,whose nome de guerre was Ahil (Achilles) "refers to the Slavs of Macedonia as 'Bulgarians' in an offhanded manner without seeming to indicate that such a designation was a point of contention" (Perry 1988:23).In his correspondence Gotse Deltchev often states simple and clearly,"We are Bulgarians" (Mac Dermott 1978:192,273).
MONKEYDONIANS because of the canal of Gas where it created at your country by US companies YOU HAVE A BIG MOUTH...YOU cant change the HISTORY..!
A true MACEDONIAN IS SPEAKING FROM RIZWMATA HMATHIAS..!PEOPLE AT MY VILLAGE DONT SPEAK SLAV LANG only Greek...monkeydonia made by greeks communists at 1947 because they left Greece from mountain Grammos and Vitsi and they went at Communist Yougoslavia and Albania..READ HISTORY by BOTH SIDES and AFTER SPEAK...BULGARIANS !!!!
He admits to being a southern Slav from macedonia, which in reality is the northern part of the geographic region of what was the Roman prefecture of Macedonia and not the kingdom of Ancient Macedon of Phillip and Alexander! Why should we give you anything if you insist on using the name while you claim to be the decendants of the Ancient Greek Macedonians? Real Macedonians spoke greek, had greek culture, worshiped greek gods and promoted it all over the known world, which is known as Hellenism!
SLAV "I don't believe in history" "SLAV "give me something and I will not call myself a macedonian" GREEK I believe in history because I have a history.GREEK I would die to keep Macedonia Hellenic. thats the difference greek macedonian and a slav wanna be macedonian.
@SalatKKS ja tvaju mamy yebal, yebanaja suka kurwa !!!!!!!!!! Fashisti !!!!!!!! 1st of all u are polish?? yee??? are y sure that u are polish ??? or maybe jew or German or... ?? !!! We wont late anyone and anybody toucht our history!!!!!! gamo tis manes sas!!!!!!!!! mpastardi!!!!!!
ρε βλακες,αυτοι που μιλανε,γραφουν βουλγαρικα,εχουν τα ιδια κοινα στοιχεια με αλλες βουλγαρικες χωρες,προσπαθουν να αποδειξουν οτι καταγωνται απο τον ιδιο τον Μεγα Αλεξανδρο?αυτοι οι 2εκ,ανθρωποι οπου οι περισσοτεροι ειναι αλβανοι,μουσλουμανοι κτλ. που η "χωρα" τους ειναι τα απομιναρια ενος εμφυλιου,ξαφνικα θελουν να λεγοντε Μακεδονες για ν αναγνωριστουν απ τν υπολιπο κοσμο?LOL.Νομιζετε οτι αλλες χωρες (πολιτες) ξερουν οτι η αρχαια Μακεδονια ΔΕΝ ειναι ελληνικη?Μονο αυτοι το λενε,μν ασχολιστε. +1
Katarxin poios eksypnos ekei stous fakelous eixe ti faini idea na dieksagei politiki. H politiki tis xoras kai epi Karamanli alla kai tora me Papandreou einai adiamfisvititi. Samara posa edoses?
"FYROM people" were called Bulgarians or Slavs until they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean
FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM:
Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"
OMG,"i dont believe in history,for me history does not exist"HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
doesn't exist history for you? THEN SHUT UP STUPID how much proofs you want to see in order to occupy the obvious? Macedonian coins with the head of Alexander above in that it has engraved Greek,only from this you understand which nationality he was Alexander the Great GREEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!!
Look at those kids they dont know what to say... they ve been told that they are Makedonians... ok ... so???... whats next? just this? what about the history... personaly i never could stole a name i prefer to die right now! How the can?
We're just Macedonians. It's OK to be jealous Greeks. We understand your wishes to be Macedonians. We understand your lack or double-split identity. But unfortunatley we can't help you with it.
@ladomiroff You can try as hard as you can but you will never be authentic macedonians. You are just a knock off trying to look a like an original brand name.
@ladomiroff yes you are macedonians for 20 years now!!hahaha fucking losers!!!macedonia is greece for 3000 years now. go build a statue of alexander. that's our difference. you are constructing a "macedonian" nation now, we have all the ancient macedonian monuments. don't cry, get over it
FFs if history does not exist then Why are you tryin to say tha you are macedonian you are not and the president of SLabes? or something like that said that they came here as slaves.... and they have nothing in common with Great Alexander or HIS-OUR macedonia........So stfu fyromBastards....
what do u expect these retards live in the mountains and play with goats when their bored??? seriously they dont compare to us GREEKS, the ONLY MACEDONIANS dont get confused with the MONKEYDONIANS PEOPLE
you know that except from stealing the greek history and denying their bulgarian roots the skopian idiots also stole the former japan flag and painted it yellow and orange,so in conclusion:skopians are macedonian ninjas who speak bulgarian language?!!?!!?!!?!!!?macedonia is greek,skopians are bulgars
TO ME HISTORY DOES NOT EXIST" EDIS ELLINES SE POIOUS MALAKES EXOUME PROVLIMATA...HISTORY FOR SLAVIC PSEUDO MACO INFORMATIONS IS WHAT DEFines RACE...IT iS HISTORY THAT IS TEH REASON WHY CULTURE EXISTS AND IT DEFINITLY DOES EXIST...FOR EXAMPLE WW2...FUCK U FAKEDONIAN MOTHA FUCKERS ARE DUMB MAKEDONIA MONO ELLINIKI...ZITO TO ETHNOS!!!
Pleon exei mini mono ena asiatiko edafos gia tin Ellada alla k ayto ayrio tha einai ipo tourkiki katoxi....Voithiste tin Ellada na min ginei tourkiki eparxi alli mia fora!!!mpite twra sto game k apotrepste tous skopianous na mpoun me to onoma tis makedonias mas!!!H Ellada sas xriazete..
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
From the Greek name Φιλιππος (Philippos) which means "friend of horses", composed of the elements φιλος (philos) "friend" and ιππος (hippos) "horse". This was the name of five kings of Macedon, including Philip II the father of Alexander the Great
At least the ppl in the video appear civilized and support the diplomatic process. Greece wants peace, and stability through diplomacy. Greece is one of the few Balkans states who have no territorial claims, and have always taken the diplomatic approach to settle issues. Greece is a soverighn nation and the only full democracy in the Balkans and has implemented the 2014 plan to stabilize the Balkans within a cooperative economic bloc.
For all the Turks-all the wars you have''won''you won them because you were 20 times more numerous and because Greeks were blackmailed by Brits or Germans.You are zero,same as your brothers Skopians,thieves of history and Greek identity!
apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory
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it was Bosnian for 10 centuries and it is still Bosnian so it can't be Serbian. Same if you told that France has been English for 10 centuries. That is bullshit ... get things straight
ha ha,everyone knows,even those brainwashed Turks,that for centuries before they came to Balkans-Bosnia was Serbian land with Serbian kings,and Small Asia was Greek.You're just cowards whoi changed their faith to live with comfort,that's what you are.
no everybody who is mentally healthy knows that Bosnia is for 10 centuries Bosnian. Turks also. Only small percentage of brainwashed Serbs believe to nonsense that Bosnia is Serbia.
So how come your language untill 1995 was Serbian? How come ''your''king Tvrtko was helping Serbian army in battle of Kosovo AGAINSt the Turks,claiming he was helping his people?How come you were Christians untill the Turks?You're ''made up''nation!
@Patriotis1 Our language since 800 AD is Bosnian. Tvrtrko helped Serbs in Kosovo because he didn't want Turks to destroy bosnia because Serbia was next to her. Some of us are christians and some muslims. We are definately not made up nation. Tvrtko called himself bosnjan not serb.
Ha ha ha ha ha,bosnian language,ha ha ha ha...Okay,if you say so,I won't argue anymore,but it is apsurd.He called himself''king of Bosnia and of all Serbia''he even pronounced himself king on the Saint Sava grave in monastery of Mileseva..ha ha,''bosnian''...
don't laugh that is the truth. He crowned himself in Mile near Visoko not in Mileseva there is archeological evidence for Mile but not for Milesevo. His grave is in Bobovac. hahhaha you and your lies are funny hahahahAHHAHAH
Anyway,I have to ask you how come there was cyrillic letters in Bosnia and now only latin alphabet is used and in Serbia cyrillic is used??Does it tell you that your nation is directly connected with Turks? If you are muslim you had to be Serbs before that cause only Serbs lived in Bosnia in those times...
that was bosancica old bosnian cyrillic alphabet. Before Turks tehre were ethnic bosnians living in Bosnian Kingdom. Battle of Bileca 1388 / Bosnian heavy cavalry led by Vlatko Vukcic kosaca beat Turks at Bileca and save Bosnian Kingdom from Turkish expansion.
Vlatko Vukcic was Serbian,with name,nationality,surname etc. Bosancica was a type of serbian cyrillic,the thing is that you don't have it anymore because you stopped being 100% Serbs with coming of Turks in Balkans.There is no Bosnian ethnicity,never was,indeed!
vlatko vukcic always reffered to his bosnian ethnicity his name was Bosnian. These names before turks were also Bosnian but most of ethnic Bosnians converted to Islam with arrival of Turks and then their names changed. So these names cannot be considered just as Serbian or Croatian because majority of Croats and Serbs have them. Bosnian had them before Turks. Bosancica was independent of Serbian cyrillic, it was the national alphabet of ethnic Bosnians not Serbs or Croats.
Ok,son,whatever.Funny claims,lies and all with a goal to present yourselves as a nation.Look at your flag,colors of Europe,that is your history,due to Europe you exist as a non-Serbian country,same as Kosovo.But,never mind.''Exei o kairos gyrismata'',as we say in Greece...
Today's flag Americans forced to us it doesnt have any historical connection to Bosnia. Our true flag are gold lilie old bosnian sign of Bosnian Kings. We are non-serbs and we werent serbs and we will not be serbs. Simply we are Bosnians.
Kid,Serbs are on Balkans from 6th century.There are about 15 million Serbs on the planet Earth.And you? You have a nation last 20 years and 800.000 citizens,what are you talking about? Don't be silly,unexisting Bosnian-guy...
yes,yes,5 million with Turks in Germany,maybe...You don't exist,Balkans is for Greeks and Slavs,you came to occupy it,you are nothing more than Turks mixed with Serbs.Tou are talkink rubbish.Your population in thge world is 1 million.End of story!
We Bosnian are Slavs not Turks. Only Turks in Balkans are you Serbs. How can I be turk if I am not muslim tell me that? Do turks celebrate catholic christmas?
Serbs are Serbs,kid,we have 15 centuries of wars and happenings in our history,you do not,actually.Bosnians are islamized Serbs,that's all,don't steal our history,don't invent all those unexisting facts,every historian who is not-pro politics will tell you the same.
Alexander the Great was born in 356BC in Pella the ancient capital of Macedonia. Alexander was the son of Philip II, king of Macedonia, and Olympias a princess of Epirus.If you love Angelina Jolie you should approve this,uppps i forgot you are greek,you are gay hahahahahahaahahahah
How sad it must be to look south at your neighbour and see the shine glowing over it, smell the sea as the winds heads north and only imagine the beauty of glorious Greece. The culture, the history, the food, the contributions this littlw country gave to the world.....heck...if I was a slav, I would want to be Greek as well.
ak4tag ....you can speak english ? YES ? ok tell me please ...you claim to have as an flag symbol and symbol of your country the "Sun of Vergina" please tell me what does this SUN mean ? what is each STRIPE of the sun Symbolizing ? can you answer on this ?
@ak4tag , If we gonna talk about proof skopian you dont have any , You are thiefs , I fuck bucharest shit and all of you i dont give a fuck , you are SLAVS ! be proud of that ! Greek symbols greek letters ! everything is greek worshiped greek gods playd in the olimpics games ! what do you have for proof ! SLAVOOOO ! GREEK MONUMENTS ! greek names ! We should have kill all of you , Greeks serbian and bulgarian sayvd you from the ottoman you would be muslims now ! Thank The great powers in balkan
you can say gaygreek when i fuck you mother ! i will kill the shit of you mother fucker , you little Skopian bastard do you think im kidding whit you , we can see eachother in the middle of the boarder . If you want to steal something from me i kill you im not like the greek goverment all fagots ! Listen to you mother fucking people i DONT BELVIE IN HISTORY if it wasent for us you would eat sheat motherfucker
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
The speech of Alexander I, when he was admitted to the Olympic games
"Men of Athens...
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
In order to be Macedonian you have to be greek and speak greek....XD greece is full of fucking retards,how can you be greek and be macedonian at the same time you fucking idiots,and if you are macedonian you should be speaking macedonian not some fake bullshit like greek,got nothing else to do and stealing our history,well you either pull your shit together Greece and start working cause soon enought you will fall and be somebody s BITCH,stop with this bullshit now or suffer,your choise FGR...
KamaraX50 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 calm down Vardaskian slav
apolskis1 2 months ago
@apolskis1 Vardarski slav?...where do you get this names?ha greek got nothing else to do so you eat bullshit about us Macedonians....nice try.
KamaraX50 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 That was your Vardaska We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves. "
Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", Macedonian Review Editions 1903
Bulgarians for 1500 years and today "Macedonians"? How did that happen?
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 nice try Vardaskian with blood from Yugoslavia.Were we get this names/ axaxaxaxaxa that is your country name after the Yugoslavia break up.and something else Vardaskian why you never use the name ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ as your nationality name before WW2 ?Write in google Vardaskia and also maps myabe you learn something
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@KamaraX50 to tell you what somw ancient quotes?
"For I (Alexander I) myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery."
(Herod. IX, 45, 2 [Loeb])
Thucydides:
"The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia ... Alexander I, the father of Perdiccas (II), and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos."
(Thuc. II, 99, 3 [Loeb, C. F. Smith])
Isocrates:
"Argos is the land of your fathers."
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50
Pausanias:
"They say that these were the tribes collected by Amphiktyon himself in the Greek Assembly: ... the Macedonians joined and the entire Phokian race ... In my day there were thirty members: six each from Nikopolis, Macedonia and Thessaly..."
(Paus. Phokis VIII, 2 & 4 [Loeb, W. Jones])
Strabo:
"And Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece."
(Strab. VII, Frg. 9 [Loeb, H.L. Jones])
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50
The Peloponnesians that were with the fleet were ... the Lacedaimonians, ... the Corinthians, ... the Sicyonians, ... the Epidaurians, ... the Troezenians, ... the people of Hermione there; all these, except the people of Hermione, were of Dorian and Macedonian stock and had last come from Erineus and Pindus and the Dryopian region."
(Herod. VIII, 43 {Loeb])
apolskis1 2 months ago
@apolskis1 "Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy (Alexander I) of Macedonia has received you hospitably."
(Herod. V, 20, 4 [Loeb])
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 ncient texts containing echoes of fragments of a very old lost epic about Aigimios say that the Dorians stood in danger of attack by the Lapiths, that the king of the Dorians, Aigimios, sought the help of Heracles in return for the reward mentioned above, and that Heracles repulsed the Lapiths and established the Dorians in a region from which he had driven out the Dryopians
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 It follows that the race which was led by Aigimios and helped by Heracles was not yet the Dorians but the Macedonians. Heracles here is no more than the representative of a people in central Sterea Hellas. One of the texts mentioned above says that Aigimios people at the time of the Lapith attacks were in Histiaiotis; others imply that they had already reached the northern part of present-day Sterea Hellas.
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 The second version must be the earlier one, because it tallies with the mention of the alliance of the people who are represented by Heracles. The mention of the Lapiths as enemies of the Dorians, i.e. the Macedonians, does not conflict with this version since, as we have seen, there are traces of Lapith settlements in the Spercheios Valley.
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 The Dorians of the historical period were divided into three tribes: Hylleis, Dymanes, and Pamphyloi. The eponymous heroes of the Dymanes and the Pamphyloi were believed to be the sons of Aigimios who had led the Dorians to Doris. The eponymous hero of the Hylleis was said to be the son of Heracles who had acquired one third of Aigimios kingdom for helping him against the Lapiths.
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 You able to understand all these dear Vardaskian kamara?Ican tell you much more but more your small Vardaskian mind can't understand HAVE A NICE DAY AND YOU ARE WELCOME IN MAKEDONIA ANYTIME YOU WISH
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 and some of your words my dear.
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians."
Quote from FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov.
(from the Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe,
February 26, 1992, p. 35. )
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 "We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD)."
Quote from FYROM'S President Mr. Kiro Gligorov.
(from the Toronto Star newspaper, March 15, 1992)
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 "We do not claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great." "Greece is FYROM'S second largest trading partner, and its number one investor. Instead of opting for war, we have chosen the mediation of the United Nations, with talks on the ambassadorial level under Mr. Vance and Mr. Nimitz." In reply to another question about the ethnic origin of the people of FYROM, Ambassador Achevska stated that "we are Slavs and we speak a Slav language."
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 4 February 1999: In an interview with the Ottawa Citizen, Gyordan Veselinov, FYROM'S Ambassador to Canada, admitted, "We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian."
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 "Bulgarian historians say FYROMIANS are of Bulgarian origin and their language developed from a Bulgarian dialect," something that you deny.
If you are not the ancestors of Alexander The Great
why you want to use his symbols his culture his name
his history and claim the whole Macedonian land as your own
when you only came in Macedonian land on the 6th century (A.D.)?
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 DORIANS (Macedonians were Dorians as were the Spartans)
Legends which survived among the Dorian's and which have come down to us through Pindar, Herodotus and other ancient writers, say that the earliest ancestors of the Dorians were Makednoi (that is, Macedonians), who migrated to Doris from Pindos, more precisely from the Lakmos region.
apolskis1 2 months ago
@KamaraX50 Since it has already been seen that the Dorians took their name from Doris, where they formed themselves into one ethnic group by the union of the local inhabitants and the newcomers, it can readily be inferred that the name Makednoi and the mention of Pindos as their original homeland do not refer to the whole of the Dorian tribe but just to one of its component groups - not the Hylleis, however, because these had settled in present-day Sterea Hellas earlier.
apolskis1 2 months ago
I LOVE THIS VIDEO;)
mogim98 2 months ago
macedonia is macedonia its not greece
panchowho 2 months ago
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The greeks was never a KINDOM. Stop steeling the MAKEDONIAN history and bild youre own History. All this KINGS are MAKEDONIAN KINGS.Apostel Paulus say in his dream he see a MAKEDONIAN and he say " come to help us in MACEDONIA and never ELLADA . STOP Brainwishing and Hellenes the MACEDONIANS. ellada WAS NEVER MACEDONIA.
Devoj4E 2 months ago
Non existent race that 's trying for many years to turn from SHIT into SOMETHING.
hercmpou88 3 months ago
MACEDONIAN IS GREEK MΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ = ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ come to take macedonia monkeys and you take the GREEK COCK !!
hgoumenosefraim 3 months ago
If you greeks are macedonians why you dont speak then macedonian and you speak greek??Answer:becosue you r not macedonians
nespijam1 4 months ago
@nespijam1 why do you speak bulgaran language why evirithing ancient item etc was writen in the greek why did they worship the same god why did spread hellenism why did they partipicate at Olympics ? Alexander to Eumenes, his personal writer to write the following message Your ancestors had invaded Macedonia and the rest Greece and had done great damage Myself as leader of all Greeks came in Asia to punish you Message to Darius
kaberisisidoros 4 months ago
@nespijam1 go and fuck yourself fucking idiots the macedonias speak greek and that times you don't even exist your history began with Tito xaxaxaxaxa thieves you make the biggest wrong you want to steal someone history because you don't have but you make the wrong choise you look to high you can not steal the Hellenic history because simply Vardaskian you can not.First you claim Samuil and now Alexander the Great but for your bad luck he was born in Pella from greek parets .Get a life
apolskis1 3 months ago
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constanceone 3 months ago
@constanceone axaxaxaxaxaa Solun?1)Greeks are not gyspies as you wish learn history putana you talk about us axaxaxaxa why remove your comment?
apolskis1 3 months ago
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constanceone 3 months ago
@nespijam1 HAHAHAHA!like this baby who laughes on the video;)makedonian is a greek language!is like in germany:bayern and köln!or how in switzerland: bern and zurich!or like in serbia: novisad and nis!did you ever heared from dialect?makedonia is a greek part in greece like athens or peleponnes!how old are you my dear?
mogim98 2 months ago
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FYROM PRESIDENT KIRO GLIGOROV: "WE ARE SLAVS - THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN US AND ALEXANDER THE GREAT .. WE CAME HERE IN THE 6TH CENTURY AFTER CHRIST"
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TheSubzerogr 4 months ago
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kaberisisidoros 4 months ago
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Obviously you have a poor grip on reality you tiny Bulgar-Slav children in the Vadar, the Kingdom of Μακεδονία , Provincia Macedoniae (Επαρχία Μακεδονίας),Dioecesis Macedoniae (Διοίκησις Μακεδονίας), Theme of Macedonia (θέμα Μακεδονίας) the Modern Macedonia (region), and the modern Μακεδονία in Greece and FYR Republika Makedonija (Република Македонија), are 7 completely different things.
Would you like me to explain? I am a historian and Classicist I can give you assistance.
thegreathistorian7 4 months ago
You have history slav xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
apolskis1 4 months ago
@apolskis1
salata toursi historiko ...to magazi kernai oti thes...Bulgarian,,,Gypsy, Albania and on and on
bougatsokoritso 4 months ago
@bougatsokoritso δεν καταλαβες καλα ελληνιδα ειμαι το σχολιο ειρωνικα το ειπα:):) αναφερομαι στις πουτανες τους σκοπιανους
apolskis1 4 months ago
People from the macedonian region must accept the simple truth that they are pure bulgarians. And Alexander the Great is greek. Once they do that, finally they will have a motherland. Cause right now - all they have is some fake shithole, with everything in it stolen.
Petqn 5 months ago 3
you just keep trollin trollin trollin. *Troll Face*
kiko19972 6 months ago
@jastvo Also I study Theoritical Anthropology.The majority of the greeks in macedonia even if some have mixed with slavs,have the same dna with their ancestors no matter if they are 80% or 90% macedonians by blood.
You have thousands?I personaly mailed igenea for the bullshit is said and they told me they removed that research simply because they clues,the time,their sources all were so few and they did mistakes too that it was not right.
Ask any educated person will ya?
TheLolizzZ 6 months ago
@jastvo
Are you schizophrenic???
For christ sake i study in England kid,your people are South Slavs not Macedonians
I ensure you there are a lot.
Just because part of ancient macedonia was in fyrom too does not mean it should be named macedonia
Ancient macedonia was in bulgaria too.
Ancient greek ruins are in Italy (Should i say that south italians have in their majority greek dna?),Turkey,Yugoslavia,Egypt and even in England and Scotland!!!!
Should england be named greece?
TheLolizzZ 6 months ago
@TheLolizzZ I totally agree. But please dont call them south slavs or something like that. They are mixed from slavs and Bulgars, when in 680 khan Kuber arrived in Macedonia (bulgarian khan) from the Old Great Bulgaria which at that time was in modern Ukraine. Khan Asparuh, who was brother of khan Kuber. After the victory in 681 over the Byzantines, Danube Bulgaria was created. Later Khan Krum conquered Macedonia. It was Bulgarian territory until 1018. And again from 1205 - to the turk invasion
danielBG1000 5 months ago
@danielBG1000
You are right. ;) i have to accept that...well i have to live on with calling them fakedonians
TheLolizzZ 5 months ago
@TheLolizzZ Yes, call them Bulgarians or fakedonians or fyromans, but no macedonians or serbians or south slavs, because their blood is bulgarian ;)
danielBG1000 5 months ago
@danielBG1000
well there is an albanian minority, a greek minority some serbian minority and they are bulgars....
and they are about 1,000,0000 the greek minority which is the biggest after the albanian is 200,000 people
how to call them southslavs? lol even their 1,000,0000 people country is multicultural xD
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SLAV_BULGARIANS
WE ARE THE REAL MACEDONIANS YOU ARE THE REAL SLAV_BULGARIANS.
LEARN REAL HISTORY..BE THERE.
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DON'T MISS YOUR CHANCE TO LEARN REAL HISTORY.
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Alexander the Great exhibition to give insight into man who conquered world
Hundreds of ancient Macedon artefacts unseen outside Greece to be shown at Oxford's Ashmolean museum
Heracles to Alexander the Great is at the Ashmolean museum, Oxford, from 7 April to 29 August.
MAlexandros1 10 months ago
WE ARE THE REAL MACEDONIANS YOU ARE THE REAL SLAV_BULGARIANS.
LEARN REAL HISTORY..BE THERE.
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Alexander the Great exhibition to give insight into man who conquered world
Hundreds of ancient Macedon artefacts unseen outside Greece to be shown at Oxford's Ashmolean museum
Heracles to Alexander the Great is at the Ashmolean museum, Oxford, from 7 April to 29 August.
MAlexandros1 10 months ago 15
===========Dumbass donkey!
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@greeceshit SAID ON THE GREEK CHANNEL...Macedonia
“We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, ...
but then... they all told us,... ‘No, you are Hellenes,..
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lolololol, this really is turning to a SLAV-EUROPEAN JOKE...A MUST!! what a fool!!
FYROmonkey1 11 months ago
Those who know the least, obey the best.
trisnna9801 11 months ago
ARISTOTELIS WAS FROM SKOPIE !! ASPASIA AND PERIKLIS WERE FROM ALBANIA !! AHAHAHAH !! THA TRELATHOUME TELEIOS !! VRADAGASKAR IS YOUR NAME AND NO MACEDONIA !! MACEDONIA IS HELLENIC !!
solleticara 1 year ago
Even Gotse Deltchev,the famous Macedonian revolutionary leader,whose nome de guerre was Ahil (Achilles) "refers to the Slavs of Macedonia as 'Bulgarians' in an offhanded manner without seeming to indicate that such a designation was a point of contention" (Perry 1988:23).In his correspondence Gotse Deltchev often states simple and clearly,"We are Bulgarians" (Mac Dermott 1978:192,273).
trisnna9801 1 year ago
"history doesnt exist" ti makedonas einai re? malakadonas einai!
Spamdaspammer 1 year ago
MONKEYDONIANS because of the canal of Gas where it created at your country by US companies YOU HAVE A BIG MOUTH...YOU cant change the HISTORY..!
A true MACEDONIAN IS SPEAKING FROM RIZWMATA HMATHIAS..!PEOPLE AT MY VILLAGE DONT SPEAK SLAV LANG only Greek...monkeydonia made by greeks communists at 1947 because they left Greece from mountain Grammos and Vitsi and they went at Communist Yougoslavia and Albania..READ HISTORY by BOTH SIDES and AFTER SPEAK...BULGARIANS !!!!
Sakis27Gr 1 year ago 2
He admits to being a southern Slav from macedonia, which in reality is the northern part of the geographic region of what was the Roman prefecture of Macedonia and not the kingdom of Ancient Macedon of Phillip and Alexander! Why should we give you anything if you insist on using the name while you claim to be the decendants of the Ancient Greek Macedonians? Real Macedonians spoke greek, had greek culture, worshiped greek gods and promoted it all over the known world, which is known as Hellenism!
kingsammythecat 1 year ago
monkey-donkeys... better like that
Yuko89 1 year ago
Oi Monkeydono-ninja H arxaia fylh tis Makedonias mia autoi kai mia oi dinosauroi.....
ImSiCJim 1 year ago
SLAV "I don't believe in history" "SLAV "give me something and I will not call myself a macedonian" GREEK I believe in history because I have a history.GREEK I would die to keep Macedonia Hellenic. thats the difference greek macedonian and a slav wanna be macedonian.
nofrankno1 1 year ago 2
fuck greece !! Pozdrav za site Slovani ! Makedonija posekogash Makedonska ! pozdrav od Polske
SalatKKS 1 year ago
@SalatKKS ja tvaju mamy yebal, yebanaja suka kurwa !!!!!!!!!! Fashisti !!!!!!!! 1st of all u are polish?? yee??? are y sure that u are polish ??? or maybe jew or German or... ?? !!! We wont late anyone and anybody toucht our history!!!!!! gamo tis manes sas!!!!!!!!! mpastardi!!!!!!
mrSExyGR 1 year ago
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ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΓΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ
MACEDONIA IS GREEK
MACEDONIANS ARE GREEKS
@SalatKKS death to u slavic worm
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
ρε βλακες,αυτοι που μιλανε,γραφουν βουλγαρικα,εχουν τα ιδια κοινα στοιχεια με αλλες βουλγαρικες χωρες,προσπαθουν να αποδειξουν οτι καταγωνται απο τον ιδιο τον Μεγα Αλεξανδρο?αυτοι οι 2εκ,ανθρωποι οπου οι περισσοτεροι ειναι αλβανοι,μουσλουμανοι κτλ. που η "χωρα" τους ειναι τα απομιναρια ενος εμφυλιου,ξαφνικα θελουν να λεγοντε Μακεδονες για ν αναγνωριστουν απ τν υπολιπο κοσμο?LOL.Νομιζετε οτι αλλες χωρες (πολιτες) ξερουν οτι η αρχαια Μακεδονια ΔΕΝ ειναι ελληνικη?Μονο αυτοι το λενε,μν ασχολιστε. +1
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SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
Katarxin poios eksypnos ekei stous fakelous eixe ti faini idea na dieksagei politiki. H politiki tis xoras kai epi Karamanli alla kai tora me Papandreou einai adiamfisvititi. Samara posa edoses?
BillyJimmyLee 1 year ago
Unfortunately Skopje had no better spokesman to send
austriafighter 1 year ago
"FYROM people" were called Bulgarians or Slavs until they were used first by Bulgaria and then by the Communists to try to control the Greek North Aegean
FYROM A COMMUNIST DREAM:
Communist leader Dimitrov' Secret Diary, "we talk about Macedonian Nation which consists of Bulgarians, Serbs and Greeks? Is it possible for Macedonia to exist as an independent state or in the frame of the confederation of Southern Slavs, regardless of the ETHNOGRAPHICAL CONCOCTION that it is?"
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
OMG,"i dont believe in history,for me history does not exist"HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
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SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
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vaskobs 1 year ago
Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
FYROM IS NOT MACEDONIAN PEOPLE - THEY ARE BULGARIAN AND OTHER PEOPLE.
FYROM IS PAIONIA - ONLY SMALL PART IS REAL MACEDONIA NOW STOLEN FROM GREEKS.
ONLY A GREEK CAN BE A MACEDONIAN - MAKEDON ORIGINAL GREEK NAME AND GREEK HOMELAND FOREVER.
PAIONIA IS THE REAL NAME OF FYROM - FYROM NAME CHANGING SOON.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
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Krste Misirkov, 1903, "our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians"
FYROM IS NOT MACEDONIAN PEOPLE - THEY ARE BULGARIAN AND OTHER PEOPLE.
FYROM IS PAIONIA - ONLY SMALL PART IS REAL MACEDONIA NOW STOLEN FROM GREEKS.
ONLY A GREEK CAN BE A MACEDONIAN - MAKEDON ORIGINAL GREEK NAME AND GREEK HOMELAND FOREVER.
PAIONIA IS THE REAL NAME OF FYROM - FYROM NAME CHANGING SOON.
SMYRNAfreedom 1 year ago
you want us to give you something to change your name? pare ta tria mas malaka
deedeegr100 1 year ago
doesn't exist history for you? THEN SHUT UP STUPID how much proofs you want to see in order to occupy the obvious? Macedonian coins with the head of Alexander above in that it has engraved Greek,only from this you understand which nationality he was Alexander the Great GREEEEEEEEEEK!!!!!!
Psych0Noob 1 year ago
Look at those kids they dont know what to say... they ve been told that they are Makedonians... ok ... so???... whats next? just this? what about the history... personaly i never could stole a name i prefer to die right now! How the can?
tirokroketass 1 year ago
best video ever ahhaahah
mpoukoma 1 year ago
haha awesome video
paky4ever1 1 year ago
he he he
We're just Macedonians. It's OK to be jealous Greeks. We understand your wishes to be Macedonians. We understand your lack or double-split identity. But unfortunatley we can't help you with it.
ladomiroff 1 year ago
@ladomiroff You can try as hard as you can but you will never be authentic macedonians. You are just a knock off trying to look a like an original brand name.
erevos111 1 year ago
@ladomiroff yes you are macedonians for 20 years now!!hahaha fucking losers!!!macedonia is greece for 3000 years now. go build a statue of alexander. that's our difference. you are constructing a "macedonian" nation now, we have all the ancient macedonian monuments. don't cry, get over it
deedeegr100 1 year ago
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ttheox 1 year ago
FFs if history does not exist then Why are you tryin to say tha you are macedonian you are not and the president of SLabes? or something like that said that they came here as slaves.... and they have nothing in common with Great Alexander or HIS-OUR macedonia........So stfu fyromBastards....
MrLaSioR 1 year ago
Hahahaha how funny these slavobastards are. What complete and utter morons of society.
Macedonians are Greek.
nmt1969 1 year ago
μπράβο για το βίντεο....!!!
Heraclides82 1 year ago
μπράβο για το βίντεο....!!!
Heraclides82 1 year ago
Dont touch half of FYROM its Albanian.
KAPISH
Interfacex 1 year ago
what do u expect these retards live in the mountains and play with goats when their bored??? seriously they dont compare to us GREEKS, the ONLY MACEDONIANS dont get confused with the MONKEYDONIANS PEOPLE
Cerigoti 1 year ago
Ta PAPARиJA My
TheSubzerogr 1 year ago
Slavified AVARS. Nothing more, nothing less.
ClaimhSolais 1 year ago
Most schools have History 101
in FYROM they have History LOL !
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
History does not exist and this bloke is at University god help us.
WRX2001 1 year ago 34
beeeee
ludite12 1 year ago
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you know that except from stealing the greek history and denying their bulgarian roots the skopian idiots also stole the former japan flag and painted it yellow and orange,so in conclusion:skopians are macedonian ninjas who speak bulgarian language?!!?!!?!!?!!!?macedonia is greek,skopians are bulgars
scarflawless 1 year ago
TO ME HISTORY DOES NOT EXIST" EDIS ELLINES SE POIOUS MALAKES EXOUME PROVLIMATA...HISTORY FOR SLAVIC PSEUDO MACO INFORMATIONS IS WHAT DEFines RACE...IT iS HISTORY THAT IS TEH REASON WHY CULTURE EXISTS AND IT DEFINITLY DOES EXIST...FOR EXAMPLE WW2...FUCK U FAKEDONIAN MOTHA FUCKERS ARE DUMB MAKEDONIA MONO ELLINIKI...ZITO TO ETHNOS!!!
CypriotCrusder8836 1 year ago
Την επομενη φορα κανε ενα πιο πειστικο βιντεο φιλε.Αφαιρεσε και τα σχολια.Το κλιπακι σου απευθυνεται σε παιδια του δημοτικου
nio5671 1 year ago
LOLski
we are so intelligent!
MONKEY BRAINS!
ThePROUDmonkeydonian 1 year ago
"we don't belive in history "
"to me History doesn't exist "
Fyroms best students .
bravo pithikes .
charlesmiles 1 year ago 3
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skopje or skoupi is from greek word skoupi-dia=
SKOUPIDIA.english is GARBAGE AND THIS IS YOUR NAME GARBAGEDONIA OR SKOYPIDIADONIA
MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND IS GREEK!
MKDISGREEK 1 year ago
Macedonia was,is and will be only Greek. Vardarska (Fyrom) has nothing to do with Macedonians=Greeks.
LeonAmarantos 1 year ago 71
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Pleon exei mini mono ena asiatiko edafos gia tin Ellada alla k ayto ayrio tha einai ipo tourkiki katoxi....Voithiste tin Ellada na min ginei tourkiki eparxi alli mia fora!!!mpite twra sto game k apotrepste tous skopianous na mpoun me to onoma tis makedonias mas!!!H Ellada sas xriazete..
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
SeNioRoTatOs 1 year ago
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apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory (vgalte ta kena)
SeNioRoTatOs 1 year ago
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greeks freaks or whatever.We dont have to prove anything to anybody less to you. u r shame for the EU and u r deep in shit.dont worry about us.
MACEDONIA WAS IS AND WILL BE TO THE MACEDONIANS.
Niko12i3 1 year ago
@Niko12i3
PHILIP
etymology of name
From the Greek name Φιλιππος (Philippos) which means "friend of horses", composed of the elements φιλος (philos) "friend" and ιππος (hippos) "horse". This was the name of five kings of Macedon, including Philip II the father of Alexander the Great
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zygste 1 year ago
hey at least they admitted they are Slavs and not vikings from Saturn
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Hellonx 1 year ago
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skopje or skoupi is from greek word skoupi-dia=
SKOUPIDIA.english is GARBAGE AND THIS IS YOUR NAME GARBAGEDONIA OR SKOYPIDIADONIA
MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND IS GREEK!
MKDISGREEK 1 year ago
At least the ppl in the video appear civilized and support the diplomatic process. Greece wants peace, and stability through diplomacy. Greece is one of the few Balkans states who have no territorial claims, and have always taken the diplomatic approach to settle issues. Greece is a soverighn nation and the only full democracy in the Balkans and has implemented the 2014 plan to stabilize the Balkans within a cooperative economic bloc.
Smartssssss 1 year ago
For all the Turks-all the wars you have''won''you won them because you were 20 times more numerous and because Greeks were blackmailed by Brits or Germans.You are zero,same as your brothers Skopians,thieves of history and Greek identity!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
127 countries recognized Macedonia not "Fyrom" but Nobody accept "kurdistan" on the world
istanbulTurki 1 year ago
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apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory
SeNioRoTatOs 1 year ago
Serbia is for Macedonia in Greece,not for FYROM scumbags.Although our retarted president recognized Skopja as Makedonia,Serbian people are AGAINST it.
Makedonia einai Ellada!
Bosnia einai Servia!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
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Bosnia serbia? god joke mate
Ninodalix 1 year ago
it was Serbian for 10 centuries,how come it isn't serbian? As Constantinople is greek,Turks-out of Europe!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
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it was Bosnian for 10 centuries and it is still Bosnian so it can't be Serbian. Same if you told that France has been English for 10 centuries. That is bullshit ... get things straight
Ninodalix 1 year ago
ha ha,everyone knows,even those brainwashed Turks,that for centuries before they came to Balkans-Bosnia was Serbian land with Serbian kings,and Small Asia was Greek.You're just cowards whoi changed their faith to live with comfort,that's what you are.
Patriotis1 1 year ago
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no everybody who is mentally healthy knows that Bosnia is for 10 centuries Bosnian. Turks also. Only small percentage of brainwashed Serbs believe to nonsense that Bosnia is Serbia.
Ninodalix 1 year ago
So how come your language untill 1995 was Serbian? How come ''your''king Tvrtko was helping Serbian army in battle of Kosovo AGAINSt the Turks,claiming he was helping his people?How come you were Christians untill the Turks?You're ''made up''nation!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
@Patriotis1 Our language since 800 AD is Bosnian. Tvrtrko helped Serbs in Kosovo because he didn't want Turks to destroy bosnia because Serbia was next to her. Some of us are christians and some muslims. We are definately not made up nation. Tvrtko called himself bosnjan not serb.
Ninodalix 1 year ago
Ha ha ha ha ha,bosnian language,ha ha ha ha...Okay,if you say so,I won't argue anymore,but it is apsurd.He called himself''king of Bosnia and of all Serbia''he even pronounced himself king on the Saint Sava grave in monastery of Mileseva..ha ha,''bosnian''...
Patriotis1 1 year ago
don't laugh that is the truth. He crowned himself in Mile near Visoko not in Mileseva there is archeological evidence for Mile but not for Milesevo. His grave is in Bobovac. hahhaha you and your lies are funny hahahahAHHAHAH
Ninodalix 1 year ago
this isn't the place for us to argue,this is for Skopians and Greeks,I support Greeks and Macedonia as only greek.
Patriotis1 1 year ago
Anyway,I have to ask you how come there was cyrillic letters in Bosnia and now only latin alphabet is used and in Serbia cyrillic is used??Does it tell you that your nation is directly connected with Turks? If you are muslim you had to be Serbs before that cause only Serbs lived in Bosnia in those times...
Patriotis1 1 year ago
that was bosancica old bosnian cyrillic alphabet. Before Turks tehre were ethnic bosnians living in Bosnian Kingdom. Battle of Bileca 1388 / Bosnian heavy cavalry led by Vlatko Vukcic kosaca beat Turks at Bileca and save Bosnian Kingdom from Turkish expansion.
Ninodalix 1 year ago
Vlatko Vukcic was Serbian,with name,nationality,surname etc. Bosancica was a type of serbian cyrillic,the thing is that you don't have it anymore because you stopped being 100% Serbs with coming of Turks in Balkans.There is no Bosnian ethnicity,never was,indeed!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
vlatko vukcic always reffered to his bosnian ethnicity his name was Bosnian. These names before turks were also Bosnian but most of ethnic Bosnians converted to Islam with arrival of Turks and then their names changed. So these names cannot be considered just as Serbian or Croatian because majority of Croats and Serbs have them. Bosnian had them before Turks. Bosancica was independent of Serbian cyrillic, it was the national alphabet of ethnic Bosnians not Serbs or Croats.
Ninodalix 1 year ago
Ok,son,whatever.Funny claims,lies and all with a goal to present yourselves as a nation.Look at your flag,colors of Europe,that is your history,due to Europe you exist as a non-Serbian country,same as Kosovo.But,never mind.''Exei o kairos gyrismata'',as we say in Greece...
Patriotis1 1 year ago
Today's flag Americans forced to us it doesnt have any historical connection to Bosnia. Our true flag are gold lilie old bosnian sign of Bosnian Kings. We are non-serbs and we werent serbs and we will not be serbs. Simply we are Bosnians.
Ninodalix 1 year ago
ha,ha,never had that flag...''Bosnians'',yeah,right,and Pope is not catholic,ha ha ha...Anyway,good luck...
Bosnia is Serbia!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
bosnians are serb as pope is muslim...
Ninodalix 1 year ago
Bosnians have autonomy and history as much as Pope is Jewish..
Patriotis1 1 year ago
Serbs have history and autonomy as americans ...
Ninodalix 1 year ago
Kid,Serbs are on Balkans from 6th century.There are about 15 million Serbs on the planet Earth.And you? You have a nation last 20 years and 800.000 citizens,what are you talking about? Don't be silly,unexisting Bosnian-guy...
Patriotis1 1 year ago
Bosnian have existen in Balkans since 7th century there are about 5 million Bosnians in world. My nation is old as yours and don't call me kid boy..
Ninodalix 1 year ago
yes,yes,5 million with Turks in Germany,maybe...You don't exist,Balkans is for Greeks and Slavs,you came to occupy it,you are nothing more than Turks mixed with Serbs.Tou are talkink rubbish.Your population in thge world is 1 million.End of story!
Patriotis1 1 year ago
We Bosnian are Slavs not Turks. Only Turks in Balkans are you Serbs. How can I be turk if I am not muslim tell me that? Do turks celebrate catholic christmas?
Ninodalix 1 year ago
Serbs are Serbs,kid,we have 15 centuries of wars and happenings in our history,you do not,actually.Bosnians are islamized Serbs,that's all,don't steal our history,don't invent all those unexisting facts,every historian who is not-pro politics will tell you the same.
Patriotis1 1 year ago
@Patriotis1 what ????????? 6th century ?? SERBS???? axaxxaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxaaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaax
vaskobs 1 year ago
@Patriotis1 12th century my frend sorry u are crazy mada faka xaxax
vaskobs 1 year ago
@Patriotis1 Рашка is not Serbia my child 're trying to lie history?Do not be ridiculous
vaskobs 1 year ago
Honestly we have to stop calling them Monkeydonians ,,
we are insulting the monkeys !
charlesmiles 2 years ago 47
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@charlesmiles And people should stop calling you gayreeks, it is insulting for homosexuals which are normal people while Greeks not.
Ninodalix 2 years ago
καρκίνο στην μάνα σου
Yoriyoshi9 1 year ago
@charlesmiles HAH HAH HA HA OH HAH HAH HAHA OOOOOOO !
HOW TRUE !! At least the animals now were they belong ..
karanickolas 1 year ago
@charlesmiles masodonkeys instead
haris1says1no 1 year ago
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Alexander the Great was born in 356BC in Pella the ancient capital of Macedonia. Alexander was the son of Philip II, king of Macedonia, and Olympias a princess of Epirus.If you love Angelina Jolie you should approve this,uppps i forgot you are greek,you are gay hahahahahahaahahahah
NicoloRecordz 2 years ago
Ψηφίστε όλοι στο citizen's tube channel για να ρωτήσουν τον Ομπάμα για το Μακεδονικό ζήτημα
Thehardrider1345 2 years ago
Nobody accept "Kurdistan" but Macedonia is Real country in UN and USA
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
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How sad it must be to look south at your neighbour and see the shine glowing over it, smell the sea as the winds heads north and only imagine the beauty of glorious Greece. The culture, the history, the food, the contributions this littlw country gave to the world.....heck...if I was a slav, I would want to be Greek as well.
Nikosellas1 2 years ago
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Greeks stole Macedonian History and Lands, But Macedonia will be United MACEDONIA
istanbulTurki 2 years ago
Free Kurdistan. The Turks opress the human rights of the Kurds.
Hamerstrike87 2 years ago 4
@Hamerstrike87
LONG LIFE KURDISTAN WERE GREEKS SUUPOORT YOU FUCK TURKGAY MOTHERFUCKERS
19greekboy 1 year ago 2
im not sure what is happening now but afther you killed milions on balkans now fyrom is your frend it is strange .!
chimataw 2 years ago
skopjian "to me history does not exist"
no comment...
StraightOuttaGreece 2 years ago
ak4tag ....you can speak english ? YES ? ok tell me please ...you claim to have as an flag symbol and symbol of your country the "Sun of Vergina" please tell me what does this SUN mean ? what is each STRIPE of the sun Symbolizing ? can you answer on this ?
jimpapa83 2 years ago 2
they dont even know what the "Sun Of Vergina" means ...and they want to have it as an flag sympol ....its Sick !!!
jimpapa83 2 years ago 2
@ak4tag , If we gonna talk about proof skopian you dont have any , You are thiefs , I fuck bucharest shit and all of you i dont give a fuck , you are SLAVS ! be proud of that ! Greek symbols greek letters ! everything is greek worshiped greek gods playd in the olimpics games ! what do you have for proof ! SLAVOOOO ! GREEK MONUMENTS ! greek names ! We should have kill all of you , Greeks serbian and bulgarian sayvd you from the ottoman you would be muslims now ! Thank The great powers in balkan
Flipparna1 2 years ago
you can say gaygreek when i fuck you mother ! i will kill the shit of you mother fucker , you little Skopian bastard do you think im kidding whit you , we can see eachother in the middle of the boarder . If you want to steal something from me i kill you im not like the greek goverment all fagots ! Listen to you mother fucking people i DONT BELVIE IN HISTORY if it wasent for us you would eat sheat motherfucker
Flipparna1 2 years ago
Only People from Fyrom can say !
I DONT BELIVE IN HISTORY what do you belive in , in SHIT !
Flipparna1 2 years ago
lool prove it, we fucked you anyway, why didn't you bring much more soldiers then? were you weak? ^^ long live macedonia
Gurbetci83 2 years ago
@Gurbetci83
prove what turkish carbage?
you have to prove it,show us photos of captured commandos , can you?
2005defender 2 years ago 3
ние Македонците сме толку фини и алтруистички настроени луѓе што вакви изроди како вас нема да можат никогаш да го сватат! поздрав
bashibozuk35201 2 years ago
Long live to independant macedonian country
And fuck the greek dogs
Gurbetci83 2 years ago
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2005defender 2 years ago
@Gurbetci83
LONG LIVE PKK
KILL ALL TURKISH PIGS
NO ISLAM IN EUROPE
NO TURKGAY IN EU
2005defender 2 years ago
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@Gurbetci83
"Men of Athens...
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
I am Alexander of Macedon."
(Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45)
2005defender 2 years ago
@Gurbetci83
The speech of Alexander I, when he was admitted to the Olympic games
"Men of Athens...
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
I am Alexander of Macedon."
(Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45
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2005defender 2 years ago
@2005defender I don't care about it, long live macedonian macedonia, fuck greece
Gurbetci83 2 years ago
@Gurbetci83
of course you don care cause you cannot reply on that
and btw you are fucked by greece on 1913 and 1949
2005defender 2 years ago