@philtripe heh yea, i'm looking to start a GTM this coming Fall, and man.. if you were to invert this review, it really makes you think the first kit would be a mistake
That's bull shit that you can build it for $40.000 ..that's what I thought and build one and I have over $80.000 ...so bull shit I say to those people that say that they can build one for $40.000. If not don't ask a dreamer ask a FFR GTM builder they can tell you the facts
I like kit cars because fiber glass is actually a high performance material, better than what's used in mass production. not a huge fan of this crude ford gt steroid quarter back look but the quality looks good. I would encourage developing a second sportscar model that is more elegant, not quite as wide, finer features, narrower wheels, super light, no over the top air intakes, aerodynamic and with electric drive in mind. maybe call it Europa.
Hey it loks like a Ferarri, wait no, it looks like a GT-R! hmm wait no, it's a Ford GT? no? Aston Martin? Hmmmmm they really nailed all the design cues.
i ant to buy one of your GTM car....what's the price and time lead fr delivery...? I want to visit the factory and olace an order...when I can have an appointment?
Emission standards are not "problems." Studies from all over the world relate increases in ozone, black carbon, and particulate matter to decreases in vocabulary, reaction times and cognition. For example New York 5 year olds who were exposed to more air pollutants while in the womb had an average of 4 points lower IQ. Love the strive for excellence though.
OH MY GOD!!!! That is the greatest ive ever seen. your getting a ferrari killer for the price of a ford focus. This is incredible. WOW my heads about to explode.
@7upbottlesdown You need to find a C5 corvette for a few suspension things, brakes, the motor, and ECM. But other than that you need a transaxle and 200 hours of free time.
@TheMrhoneycutt yea thats why the photoshoot pic at 4:05 has the same gap. yea im sure they left the hood open through the photoshoot. fuck off. check out some other vids, same gap just all a little different, hence quality. this car runs 20k for some steel tube and fiberglass, no motor, no suspension, no interior. kind of crazy if u ask me.
@kaylynne88 look at 6:03. gap looks normal. the quality all depends on who builds the car. the car runs the price because of the engineering behind it. it is technically a competitor of any Ferrari or Porsche based on power, weight, aerodynamics, and skid pad results. it does come with an interior and the only suspension components you need are the control arms from a c5 vette (cheap). you and all the people bitching about its "quality" are people who probably can't afford one anyway.
@MustangsCanTurnToo Yeah, but if you want a 6spd tranny, you could get a GT Recardo and bolt a 5.4L Ford engine on it. It would be much better than the LS engines.
@112namrepus I've seen 5.4 engine swaps done in mustangs and the results are disappointing. The 5.4 iron block is very heavy and I'd hate to upset the balance of the car both in terms of handling and the suspension. I like what Capstone has done and turned this car into a hybrid powered by microturbines. Hate to say it but that's the way of the future.
first I like to complement you for a greate car. Im totaly sold in the design. But I could not find any real information about safety? Do you got any more details in form of safety and such. what happends in case of an accident?
@Deffe200SX Guessing from the steel tube chassis and Simpson belts, it will destroy anything lighter and bounce off anything heavier. Occumants will be disembowled or beheaded by the g-forces.
Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to mount an electric motor to each of the rear wheels and convert this to an electric car? I was looking for a project to make an electric car from scratch, and this looks like an awesome place to begin with... Also, would it be possible to fabricate the chassis from aluminum to cut weight?
Of course it would be possible to use electric power but it would make absolutely no sense whatsoever because by the time you pay for the components to make the car run on electricity; you will have spent more than it would cost you to just go and buy a brand new Chevrolet Volt. There is no need to build the chassis out of aluminum because when the car is completely assembled it only weighs 2,400 lbs, which is well over a thousand pounds lighter than any typical street vehicle.
@Casey1821 Hi, Its not about the money I'd save by buying a brand new car, its about the fact that I "built" my own that matters... And when you say 2400lbs, you mean minus the drivetrain right? (read engine+transmission+exhaust etc...)
@psych0hans No, 2,400 LBS is the overall curb weight as a complete running vehicle. That curb weight includes the aluminum Chevrolet Small Block that weighs around 400 LBS by itself. This car is designed to be extremely light in order to reduce the overall power to weight ratio of the car. This car is extremely fast when completed using a V8 Chevy engine. It would already be as light as you would ever want a vehicle to be if you were using electric power and not want to carry any extra weight.
I would love to build one of these cars, but I agree that it's the cost of getting the body painted that scares the bejesus out of me. It's nice to see you guys taking steps to cut that down.
Getting GMPP to put together a kit is a nice touch. I don't mind killin' a convertible 'vette with an auto for the project though! If GMPP can beat the price of a used Corvette, that's the way I'll go for sure. It really sounds like you're well on your way to creating a kit that includes everything except the wrenches! Way to go! As soon as I'm finished with my Blazer I'll be placing my order!
for the cost of 2 of these to build you cant even buy a ZR1 for that price and you get ferrari enzo beating performance and more reliability and you dont have to be a millionare to own one amazing work FFR
I've been a fan of Factory 5 since well before the GTM. The Type 65 coupe has been on my wish list for a long time now, but I think I might bump it down in favor of this Gen 2 GTM. I like all your improvements and think the car really looks great. Moving the vents off the wheel wells did a lot. Thank you so much for the work you've been doing refining your product line. Detroit is definitely in your shadow.
What is the basic Hr bulid time for this New 2 Gen GTM?
my question I have is this I have a LS-9 Engine would I need to do some mods to make it fit or should I look for a LS-7 ? Also will this new trans work with 800+ RWHP and what about a Keith Black Engines I have one I can have.
@radvigor the HP rating of the new transaxle is 650 HP. i would think alot would have to be done to a LS-9 to make it fit since it has a front mounted throttle body. You could use an LS-9 long block and put an Eaton R2300 (basically the same type of supercharger on the LS-9) with a rear facing throttle body, just to make it super easy to install and i bet its cheaper as well
@radvigor Some of the "professional" builders say it takes about 200 or so hours to build. Considering there are 2080 hours in a regular work year, that's not a lot of time. That said I'd still double or tripple that time at least. Learning and building at the same time means you'll be building it several times in your head and thinking as far ahead as you can before you even touch a part in that area.
@7upbottlesdown It is fairly hard to build a car. I haven't built a kit but I have built several off-road cars. I would suggest at least moderate skill before even trying to build one. That said my first real project was rebuilding and puting a big block into my Camaro back in HS. It took a long time but it turned out fairly well.(diligence pays off) You gotta start somewhere and if there is something you cant figure out you can always pay someone to do that part.
@7upbottlesdown If I were you I would go to the FFR Build School (Howell, Michigan). You won't be building a GTM, but you will learn how to build a Factory Five there. And you'll defenetly learn many of the basics. And just like shananagans5 said, you can always pay someone else to do the parts you can't do. And there is the FFcars forum, too!
the whole new transaxle idea is great, 600hp rated 5 speed is awesome, but i was thinking it would be a 6 speed and have a 750hp rating with c5 corvette t-56 transaxle gear ratios.
you guys keep this up and ferrari & lamborghini will be taking lessons from you all ~ what i love about this car is it doesn't appear a copy of any other car, it has an orignal design that is truly a classic. that tells me you don't follow, your leading the way to something new & better ~
@caesarjamesaugustus I don't remember where I read it, but I remember it being said that the GTM was supposed to be a GT40 kit car. However Ford stopped selling licenses for the body shape because the Ford GT was about to release. You can see amazing similarities to the GT40 in the front end of the GTM, but it could be complete internet rumor, too.
great stuff, dave. i'm a huge fan and supporter of Factory Five Racing. my dream in life is to win the lotto, show up at your door, and offer to work for free! --FFR #4453
I just don't like the splitter. I think it should stay flat, not bump up in the center. It would look way better. Plus it would let less air under the car, increasing downforce.
THE BODY ISNT PANALS!? Its all one piece? fuuuuuuuuuuuuk that... One minor accident and you are fuked. So if your fender gets cracked into pieces you have to replace the body as one piece?
sure as hell aint no cobra kit...by what hes saying the old car sounds like total crap...imo youd be way better off with a vette or a cobra kit
philtripe 3 weeks ago
@philtripe heh yea, i'm looking to start a GTM this coming Fall, and man.. if you were to invert this review, it really makes you think the first kit would be a mistake
eclypse256 2 weeks ago
Go with these guys!! Please do not go with Super Replicas THERE WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY! These guys are the real deal!
IDONTGETPAIDFORTHIS1 1 month ago
the steering wheel is upside down
Mr04fordranger 1 month ago
That's bull shit that you can build it for $40.000 ..that's what I thought and build one and I have over $80.000 ...so bull shit I say to those people that say that they can build one for $40.000. If not don't ask a dreamer ask a FFR GTM builder they can tell you the facts
wilsonsl500 2 months ago
how much is the kit if you have a doner c5 corvette?
32479612391 2 months ago
@32479612391 like 20k
piloty5 1 month ago
This guy should hire someone else to do the videos...
arena2101 2 months ago
Are kit cars street legal?
orionpirates 4 months ago
@orionpirates yes
whoewasthatit 3 months ago
@orionpirates yes
whoewasthatit 3 months ago
Id rather buy a nissan sentra
fs93543 4 months ago
@fs93543 Thats because you like penis in your asshole
Dowdproductions 3 months ago
60,000 to build, which will take a couple of years, or u can buy it complete for 100,000
fs93543 4 months ago
@fs93543 44.000.00 turn key car not 60.000.00
z34gtpz28 4 months ago
@fs93543 What... the.... fuck...... I thought it only costed around $50,000 complete.
n3rdbear 1 month ago
@usernamesnot how did that work out?
150peacemaker 4 months ago
I think it's just awesome to have a company president with this kind of involvement and experience with what his company produces. Way to go Dave!
rvandell2 4 months ago
oh my god the front end is similar to an f50 gt! i think i'm gonna HAVE to order one lol.
MidnightMadness4x4 5 months ago
I LOVE IT YOU NEED A METAL
x2thezful 5 months ago
this is probably the only north american car i will ever like, looks nice, hoping to build one someday
MonsterNRGEE 6 months ago
can u get it in right haand drive
87burkey 6 months ago
Awesome...
blackenedheartmusic 6 months ago
I'm planing on building one with a ls7 create engine when I get a job and after I put some money in savings.
shawnwade159 7 months ago
I saw one today one the highway very fascinating car.
APEZ94 7 months ago
Yeah... Kit cars will be the super cars of the near future. So we are down to about $40K to finish the car now?
DocWolph 7 months ago
will you the make the gtm in an automatic version or will that be the decision of the owner?
cocoalong 7 months ago
anyone know the weight of the body and chassis? including glass
DanFrederiksen 7 months ago
I like kit cars because fiber glass is actually a high performance material, better than what's used in mass production. not a huge fan of this crude ford gt steroid quarter back look but the quality looks good. I would encourage developing a second sportscar model that is more elegant, not quite as wide, finer features, narrower wheels, super light, no over the top air intakes, aerodynamic and with electric drive in mind. maybe call it Europa.
DanFrederiksen 7 months ago
if i had the 20G's to buy this car i would
rockstr1 8 months ago
@rockstr1 i own one ... you need alot more than 20 g to build one... alot!
insanez06 8 months ago
Hey it loks like a Ferarri, wait no, it looks like a GT-R! hmm wait no, it's a Ford GT? no? Aston Martin? Hmmmmm they really nailed all the design cues.
davefuckingniro 9 months ago
is that a whipple supercharger
JakesGlitches 9 months ago
this is comparable to cars at $75,000.00 to $100,000.00 or more. Great Work!
djjamsession3000 9 months ago
It certainly looks much easier to build than IT was before but how does it compare to building an Ultima?
leloodallasmultipass 9 months ago
@leloodallasmultipass This is what I'm curious about...
How do all kit cars stack up to the Ultima GTR, in all aspects..?
ReticentIndignation 8 months ago
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aslan19991 10 months ago
I want one but that tranny needs to be beefed up more 600hp just does not cut it, I was thinking more like 900rwhp :D
csgtfaught 11 months ago
@csgtfaught I am with you.. I would want mininum 700HP or starting at 600wHP..
IXGQ4LifeXI 10 months ago
Emission standards are not "problems." Studies from all over the world relate increases in ozone, black carbon, and particulate matter to decreases in vocabulary, reaction times and cognition. For example New York 5 year olds who were exposed to more air pollutants while in the womb had an average of 4 points lower IQ. Love the strive for excellence though.
Thatmakessense356 11 months ago
and what exactly is the cost? how much to get one exactly like the yellow one in the vid?
masterchief819 11 months ago
@masterchief819 well its a kit car so you build it but if you have some one build it and you do not have a donor car ~30-50K i think
csgtfaught 11 months ago
wanna build this car with a sbf thatd be BA screw the corvete stuff
anthonysean94 1 year ago
Jesus Christ! It's a kit car with a luxury car interior! Absolutely no weak points on this car (assuming you can build it, that is).
thekkl 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS CAR!!!!!!!!
TheMrhoneycutt 1 year ago
OH MY GOD!!!! That is the greatest ive ever seen. your getting a ferrari killer for the price of a ford focus. This is incredible. WOW my heads about to explode.
Blacklisted85 1 year ago
when you buy the car from the website do you get all the parts or do you have to go find some
7upbottlesdown 1 year ago
@7upbottlesdown You need to find a C5 corvette for a few suspension things, brakes, the motor, and ECM. But other than that you need a transaxle and 200 hours of free time.
TheMrhoneycutt 1 year ago
@nallen100
Your car wuld have gaps like that too if the hood was popped open.
fahrenheit351 1 year ago
id expect a little better fitment for a $20,000 fiberglass body
nallen100 1 year ago
the front fenders look like shit. they dont fit at all. pause at 6:31 and check the gap.
nallen100 1 year ago
@nallen100 The front hatch is open dumbass..
TheMrhoneycutt 1 year ago
@TheMrhoneycutt yea thats why the photoshoot pic at 4:05 has the same gap. yea im sure they left the hood open through the photoshoot. fuck off. check out some other vids, same gap just all a little different, hence quality. this car runs 20k for some steel tube and fiberglass, no motor, no suspension, no interior. kind of crazy if u ask me.
kaylynne88 1 year ago
@kaylynne88 look at 6:03. gap looks normal. the quality all depends on who builds the car. the car runs the price because of the engineering behind it. it is technically a competitor of any Ferrari or Porsche based on power, weight, aerodynamics, and skid pad results. it does come with an interior and the only suspension components you need are the control arms from a c5 vette (cheap). you and all the people bitching about its "quality" are people who probably can't afford one anyway.
black07Z 7 months ago
why is the steering wheel mounted wrong?
ThePhiltastic 1 year ago
FFR is known for making Ford replicas and is pushing Chevy engines... It's disheartening. But great cars none the less.
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago 2
@MustangsCanTurnToo Yeah, but if you want a 6spd tranny, you could get a GT Recardo and bolt a 5.4L Ford engine on it. It would be much better than the LS engines.
112namrepus 1 year ago
@112namrepus I've seen 5.4 engine swaps done in mustangs and the results are disappointing. The 5.4 iron block is very heavy and I'd hate to upset the balance of the car both in terms of handling and the suspension. I like what Capstone has done and turned this car into a hybrid powered by microturbines. Hate to say it but that's the way of the future.
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
it looks sooo ford gt...
PRINCEofPECICA 1 year ago 2
When I hit the lottery, I am getting one... I dont have to hit the lottery for millions... just enough to cover the cost of my debt and this car!
iNetSpy 1 year ago
Hi
first I like to complement you for a greate car. Im totaly sold in the design. But I could not find any real information about safety? Do you got any more details in form of safety and such. what happends in case of an accident?
Deffe200SX 1 year ago
@Deffe200SX Guessing from the steel tube chassis and Simpson belts, it will destroy anything lighter and bounce off anything heavier. Occumants will be disembowled or beheaded by the g-forces.
MustangsCanTurnToo 1 year ago
hows the insurance on a car like this?
gunzfactory 1 year ago
Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to mount an electric motor to each of the rear wheels and convert this to an electric car? I was looking for a project to make an electric car from scratch, and this looks like an awesome place to begin with... Also, would it be possible to fabricate the chassis from aluminum to cut weight?
psych0hans 1 year ago
@psych0hans
Of course it would be possible to use electric power but it would make absolutely no sense whatsoever because by the time you pay for the components to make the car run on electricity; you will have spent more than it would cost you to just go and buy a brand new Chevrolet Volt. There is no need to build the chassis out of aluminum because when the car is completely assembled it only weighs 2,400 lbs, which is well over a thousand pounds lighter than any typical street vehicle.
Casey1821 1 year ago
@Casey1821 Hi, Its not about the money I'd save by buying a brand new car, its about the fact that I "built" my own that matters... And when you say 2400lbs, you mean minus the drivetrain right? (read engine+transmission+exhaust etc...)
psych0hans 1 year ago
@psych0hans No, 2,400 LBS is the overall curb weight as a complete running vehicle. That curb weight includes the aluminum Chevrolet Small Block that weighs around 400 LBS by itself. This car is designed to be extremely light in order to reduce the overall power to weight ratio of the car. This car is extremely fast when completed using a V8 Chevy engine. It would already be as light as you would ever want a vehicle to be if you were using electric power and not want to carry any extra weight.
Casey1821 1 year ago
I would love to build one of these cars, but I agree that it's the cost of getting the body painted that scares the bejesus out of me. It's nice to see you guys taking steps to cut that down.
uflnuceng 1 year ago
it is a wonderful product! Any chance you'll do a body that sort of reflects the Veyron profile, but with a nice looking nose of your own design?
BigFiveJack 1 year ago
You guys ROCK!
pablocruzdiez 1 year ago
Getting GMPP to put together a kit is a nice touch. I don't mind killin' a convertible 'vette with an auto for the project though! If GMPP can beat the price of a used Corvette, that's the way I'll go for sure. It really sounds like you're well on your way to creating a kit that includes everything except the wrenches! Way to go! As soon as I'm finished with my Blazer I'll be placing my order!
TCF2148 1 year ago
for the cost of 2 of these to build you cant even buy a ZR1 for that price and you get ferrari enzo beating performance and more reliability and you dont have to be a millionare to own one amazing work FFR
budmanjr325 1 year ago
Need to thinout the headlights and I'll make mine elecric thank you
3089280288 1 year ago
OMFG!! This is a must have!
I've been a fan of Factory 5 since well before the GTM. The Type 65 coupe has been on my wish list for a long time now, but I think I might bump it down in favor of this Gen 2 GTM. I like all your improvements and think the car really looks great. Moving the vents off the wheel wells did a lot. Thank you so much for the work you've been doing refining your product line. Detroit is definitely in your shadow.
TCF2148 1 year ago
What about a 6 speed manual transmission for an option?
candle2k 1 year ago
What is the basic Hr bulid time for this New 2 Gen GTM?
my question I have is this I have a LS-9 Engine would I need to do some mods to make it fit or should I look for a LS-7 ? Also will this new trans work with 800+ RWHP and what about a Keith Black Engines I have one I can have.
radvigor 1 year ago
@radvigor the HP rating of the new transaxle is 650 HP. i would think alot would have to be done to a LS-9 to make it fit since it has a front mounted throttle body. You could use an LS-9 long block and put an Eaton R2300 (basically the same type of supercharger on the LS-9) with a rear facing throttle body, just to make it super easy to install and i bet its cheaper as well
mattingly50187 1 year ago
@radvigor Some of the "professional" builders say it takes about 200 or so hours to build. Considering there are 2080 hours in a regular work year, that's not a lot of time. That said I'd still double or tripple that time at least. Learning and building at the same time means you'll be building it several times in your head and thinking as far ahead as you can before you even touch a part in that area.
TCF2148 1 year ago
can someone who barely know what there doin bulid one of these faily good or basically what im tryin to say is is it easy to build
7upbottlesdown 1 year ago
@7upbottlesdown It is fairly hard to build a car. I haven't built a kit but I have built several off-road cars. I would suggest at least moderate skill before even trying to build one. That said my first real project was rebuilding and puting a big block into my Camaro back in HS. It took a long time but it turned out fairly well.(diligence pays off) You gotta start somewhere and if there is something you cant figure out you can always pay someone to do that part.
shananagans5 1 year ago
@7upbottlesdown If I were you I would go to the FFR Build School (Howell, Michigan). You won't be building a GTM, but you will learn how to build a Factory Five there. And you'll defenetly learn many of the basics. And just like shananagans5 said, you can always pay someone else to do the parts you can't do. And there is the FFcars forum, too!
sebast007 1 year ago
You guys are one of the best American companies around. I sold my Lotus Esprit and am looking forward to tackling one of these.
semajthethird 1 year ago
the whole new transaxle idea is great, 600hp rated 5 speed is awesome, but i was thinking it would be a 6 speed and have a 750hp rating with c5 corvette t-56 transaxle gear ratios.
mattingly50187 1 year ago 2
@mattingly50187 I was thinking the same thing. I am sure a 6-speed isn't too far off, but I guess most will have to do with a 5-speed for now.
cyrusloynes 1 year ago
you guys keep this up and ferrari & lamborghini will be taking lessons from you all ~ what i love about this car is it doesn't appear a copy of any other car, it has an orignal design that is truly a classic. that tells me you don't follow, your leading the way to something new & better ~
caesarjamesaugustus 1 year ago 23
@caesarjamesaugustus at 2:11 doesn't the front end look like an aston martin?
FT86TT 9 months ago
@caesarjamesaugustus I don't remember where I read it, but I remember it being said that the GTM was supposed to be a GT40 kit car. However Ford stopped selling licenses for the body shape because the Ford GT was about to release. You can see amazing similarities to the GT40 in the front end of the GTM, but it could be complete internet rumor, too.
Landrar 4 months ago
great stuff, dave. i'm a huge fan and supporter of Factory Five Racing. my dream in life is to win the lotto, show up at your door, and offer to work for free! --FFR #4453
YouDonWantonKnow 1 year ago
How much less expensive is the new trans? That was one of the biggest turn-offs of the last generation... a $5500+ G5 trans.
mattster03 1 year ago
i just need to come back alive from deployment and i'll start my project
jorgezaldivar1 1 year ago
looks like a NSX (the back part) and Ferrari in the front
saverio1e 1 year ago
Thing looks like a bee
larlar752000 1 year ago
I just don't like the splitter. I think it should stay flat, not bump up in the center. It would look way better. Plus it would let less air under the car, increasing downforce.
TheOfficialKC 1 year ago
? you guys do a COMPLETE build in house? or just frame and body?
flawns 1 year ago
He doesnt sound excited about the transmission....
ThinkerMister11 1 year ago
great stuff. i can't wait to hear more on the trans.
also had seen the episode with the crate motor & i say the 8k ish for it is a bargain!
i like the wheels to
scottedick 1 year ago
THE BODY ISNT PANALS!? Its all one piece? fuuuuuuuuuuuuk that... One minor accident and you are fuked. So if your fender gets cracked into pieces you have to replace the body as one piece?
andrefrbk 1 year ago
@andrefrbk fiberglass is repairable!
112namrepus 1 year ago
I am about convinced that I should build one of these now I just need to convince my wife
AreNamesGood 1 year ago 40
@AreNamesGood : if i had that problem, i would buy her anything she wants first.
DeckDev89 1 year ago
@AreNamesGood : Butter her up man! you can DO IT!!
DeckDev89 1 year ago
@AreNamesGood thats always the problem
202WRX 9 months ago
@AreNamesGood its always easier to apologize then to convince
tinlegs1000 7 months ago