it's already been 2000 years ago when Jesus said be one and love one another, and now are they being one? give me a break. that mean this is a 2000 year old traditional sin.
I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE CATHOLIC AND ORTHODOX GET RID OF THEIR IDOLS AND PRAYERS TO MEN A MARY AND IDOLS INSTEAD EXCLUSIVELY TO THE HOLY FATHER AND JESUS CHRIST ONLY.
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
IF THE POPE IS THE SUCCESSOR OF APOSTLE PETER THEN HE SHOULD LEARN FROM APOSTLE PETER:
As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. "Stand up," he said, "I am only a man myself."(Acts 10.25-26,NIV)
I am not CATHOLIC but to kiss the Hand of a PRIEST or BISHOP is ANCIENT TRADITION. We do not kiss the Hand of a priest because he is not a man but because HE IS THE MINISTER OF CHRIST - with this Hands he bless, He touch the Holy Things.
So when we kiss the Hand of a PRIEST - WE HONOR CHRIST through his SERVANT.
@Ni1234ckA: ES INTERESSIERT NIEMANDEN WAS DU TUST:
Sonder was die Lehre der Kirche und der Hl. Väter ist. Wir küssen die Hände der Priester - weil wir sein AMT ehren. Nicht weil wir ihn persönlich ehren - sondern das was er tut und FÜR WEN ER ES TUT.
Die Priester spenden den Segen, sie spenden die Hl. Mysterien CHRISTI, sie weihen den Tempel und die Hl Kommunion - SIE BERÜHREN DEN LEIB CHRISTI.
DARUM KÜSSEN WIR IHRE HÄNDE und ehren damit den - DEM SIE DIENEN.
3) ES INTERESSIERT MICH WENIG WAS DEINE IN TRADION ERSTICKENDE KIRCHE LEHRT. ES GIBT NUR EINEN HEILIGEN VATER:DER HEILIGE VATER VON JESUS CHRISTUS . NICHT EINMAL JESUS WIRD IN DER BIBEL SO GENNANNT WIE KANNST DU ES WAGEN MENSCHEN SO ZU NENNEN.
ALLE APOLSTELN NENNEN NUR EINEN "HEILIGEN VATER":YHWH" UND SONST KEINEN!!!!
4.) Dann lies die Bibel genauer - denn viele wurden Väter genannt. Warum tust du nicht was man dir sagt? LIES DIE BIBEL.
5.) Du scheinst anscheinend nicht verstanden zu haben wer "YHWH" ist? JESUS CHRISTUS ist YHWH - denn ER IST GOTT. Also wen wir das Vater Unser beten - nennen wir auch Christus VATER, denn diese Gebet wird zur GOTTHEIT gesprochen und nicht zu einer Göttlichen Person.
HÖR AUF DOCH DUMMES ZEUG ZU REDEN WIR KENNEN AUCH KATHOLIKEN UND ORTHODOXEN
IHR GEHÖRT ZU DEN FAULSTEN WENN ES UM DAS LESEN DER BIBEL GEHT.
IHR STZT DA IN EUREN KIRCHEN UNS SCHWAFELT DAS NACH WAS DER PRIESTER EUCH VORGAUKELT UND ERSTICKT IN EUREN DUMMEN TRADITIONEN UND AM ENDE KÜSST EURE GÖTZENBILDER DIE EUCH EURE PHARISÄERN VON PRIESTER MIT HÄSSLICH UNGEPFLEGTEN BÄRTEN EUCH VORSTRECKEN.
@Ni1234ckA: LOL - du scheinst ein bissl Plem Plem zu sein?
So unterhalten habe ich mich schon lange nicht mehr! Ich kenne die Bibel IN und AUSWENDING - denn diese wird in den Orthodoxen Gottesdiensten OHNE UNTERBRECHUNG gelesen. In einer Woche der ganze Psalter zb. Darum kenne ich fast alle Psalmen auswendig du KASPERL.
Wir sitzen nicht - denn sitzen ist VERBOTEN. Wir sind ja keine häretischen Protestanten.
Unsere Heilige Tradition kommt von CHRISTUS selbst nicht von Kasperl wie Luther
@Ni1234ckA: Darf man auch andere als VATER bezeichnen?
Ja, sicher nur einige dummen Sektierer (Protestanten) glauben man dürfe das nicht. Soll man dann den eingénen Vater nicht mehr Vater nennen? DOCH - denn die Bibel ORDNET unter DROHUNG von STRAFTE an die Eltern zu ehren:
EHRE deinen VATER und deine MUTTER...
Aber sind nicht die Priester auch Väter? Ja, geistige Väter - diese sind noch mehr zu ehren als die biologischen - denn sie erziehen uns als Gottes Väter - zum Glauben
@Ni1234ckA: Es gibt 12.000 x das Wort Vater und VÄTER in der Bibel:
Auch im Neuen Testament werden viele Propheten usw VÄTER genannt:
Apg 7,2
Stephanus antwortete: Brüder und VÄTER hört mich an! Der Gott der Herrlichkeit erschien unserem VATER Abraham, als er in Mesopotamien lebte, ehe er sich in Haran niederließ,
Röm 9,5
sie haben die VÄTER und dem Fleisch nach entstammt ihnen der Christus, der über allem als Gott steht, er ist gepriesen in Ewigkeit.
JUNGE JUNGE SELBSTVERSTÄNDLICH PASST ER HIER-SIE GEHÖREN DEM GLEICHEM VOLK AN ISAAK WIR HIER VATER IM SINNE ALS VORFAHER GENNANNT UND NICHT IM RELIGIÖSEN SINNE.IST DER PARTRICH VON KONSTANIOPEL ODER DER METROPOLIT VON SYRIEN AUS DER GLEICHEN RASSE WIE DU-NEIN!!!!!!!!!
DU GEBRAUCHST VATER IM RELIGIÖSEN SINNE UND DAS IST FALSCH-UNTERSCHEIDUNG ZWISCHEN RELIGÖSEN GERAUCH UND ABATAMMUNG SIND NICHT IDENT.
Das Vater UNSER wird zur GANZEN GOTTHEIT gesprochen und nicht zu einer GÖTTLICHEN PERSON.
Oder willst du HÄRETIKER sagen CHRISTUS IST NICHT GOTT und EINES WESENS mit dem VATER und dem HL. GEIST?
Dann geh doch zum ISLAM du GOTTESLÄSTERER da würdedst du gut hinpassen.
Ich ENTFERNE GAR NICHTS - schon gar nicht wenn es um die MUTTTER GOTTES - CHRISTI geht - du häretischer Moslem. Du FEIND CHRISTI - möge ER DICH in die Schranken weisen - du GOTTESLÄSTERER
1.) Ich plappere gar nichts nach. Ich kenne die Bibel und das Wort Gottes aber du anscheinend nicht. So wie alle häritischen Protestaten.
2.) Ich habe dir bereits erklärt, dass niemand Bilder anbetet und Götzen sind sowieso etwas anderes. Du weißt anscheindend nicht was Götzen sind - oder willst du sagen, dass Christus ein heidnischer Götze ist?
3.) Niemand bittet die Ikone zu helfen, sondern die Person die auf der Ikone dargestellt ist
@ivaflimkien This situation has not gotten better recently. It has only gotten worse! And you people want me to deny the Holy Fathers and Ecumenical Councils for the sake of this false "brotherly love"? No way! No Thanks! I'd rather burn at that stake!
@ivaflimkien Why am I separated from the Roman Catholic Church? Why do I not want unity? It is not because I don't love the Roman Catholic People. As a follower of Christ I am called to love all men. However, the Roman Catholic Church is, and has been, in schism and heresy for about a thousand years!
@OrthodoxWay1 ok dude, calm down-you hate Catholics, thanks a lot, much appreciated.
That said, I love the Orthodox frame of Christianity, indeed I see it as more mainstream than my Catholic Church. However, while I admire, love and respect Orthodox Christians, I also know that the Holy Father is the heir of Saint Peter, and that my Church is the Universal (Catholic means universal) Church. I hate to point out the differences between Catholic and Orthodox, indeed I see us as the same Christians
matthew 16:19 says: "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven.And whatever you lose on earth, will be loosed in heaven"
So knowing that Peter has the keys to heaven, he has more authority over the other apostles.So the person he passes his power on to (due to apostolic succession) gains more power over the rest of the successors of the apostles.The Pope has more power, and so he is the rightful successor 2 st. Peter.
@Moonchild091 So by saying that, you are implying that St. Peter the Apostle was a follower of Satan not a follower of Christ, but if you look at Matthew 16:18-19 Jesus gives Matthew the keys to the kingdom of Heaven and he even builds his church upon him. Logically Jesus wouldn't give the keys to the kingdom of Heaven to a follower of Satan, therefore, you have just said an untrue statement.
@JuJuandBob Pope well into Heresy!!! Not Peter nor Mattew..If you read revelation carefully u will see what i am talking about!!! Pope is SATAN! Look up the History of the Catholic Church! Btw Roman Catholics are the one creating ISLAM so plz study history better! Pope changed alot of things from original church...it wasnt St Peter..it was a POPE!
@Moonchild091 Saint Peter was the First Pope Chosen by God to create Catholicism a reunion of Catholics, and Orthodox will be a great thing to see. The Protestants are the Satanist not us Catholics we are the Original Church started by Saint Peter
@TheSpaniard1521 You are wrong! Original Church are those who never changed dogmatic teachings of holy apostles and holy fathers which is EASTERN ORTHODOX CHURCH! We are similar but Roman Catholicism fell into heresy! Holy Apostolic Catholic Church and Roman Catholics are TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS! Study History of the Church better my friend !!!
@Moonchild091 --I guess both St. Peter and Christ committed a big error in having the former die in Rome where Christ spoke of a church that would not fall to the gates of hell, a rock (petra) where Simon would form the foundation. Oh well, that's just the way it happened.
@TheMenghi1 You are right and that is ORTHODOX....Orthodox Church never fell into Gates of Hell but Roman Catholics have! No wonder why Roman Catholics cant obtain Holy Fire in Jerusalem...its only ORTHODOX that can do that....now do the thinking and see what church is true and what is not!
@TheSpaniard1521 The 1st Church was called Holy Apostolic Catholic Church ...now When i say Catholic Church that is NOT same as ROMAN CATHOLIC church! There were 5 churches that were established Jerusalem Antioch Constantinople Alexandria and Rome...Rome split from the EAST in 1054 but even before that they had problems with other 4 churches that never changed teachings of Apostles and dogmatic teachings of the Church...Roman Catholics changed it all...one of them is Crossing!
@TheSpaniard1521 and there is alot more ...they took off holy Icons and put statues and they said that Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son...and they believe in Purgatory we dont ...so all things they changed from Original churches and they fell into heresy ...No wonder why i think that Roman Catholics are not original church is because they cant NOT OBTAIN Holy Fire in Jerusalem ..Only Orthodoxy can do that!
@TheSpaniard1521 St. Peter is in Rome when you say that Catholicism was established !St. Paul was then in captivity and do not remember all of this St. Peter in Rome !Orthodoxy today miracles prove the existence of one true faith, Orthodoxy !
@TheSpaniard1521 PURGADORY DOESNT EXIST ! IF EXIST PURGATORYY EVERY PEOPLE NEED TO GO IN HAVEN AND EVIL DESNT EXIST...PURGATORY IS A HERESY IN HOLY BIBLE ! +Dvs. Căutare Imagini Videoclipuri Hărţi Traducere Corespondenţă Mai multe katta_angel_92@yahoo.com
Traducere
NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY purgatory, OR THE PLACE
@TheSpaniard1521 Orthodoxy has preserved unaltered to this day teaching, so you can see even today the authenticity of true faith! in Bible, Pope doesn't exist,just patriarchs like today! Catholicism has innovated many things, and is wrong.orthodoxy has kept the true not innovate and Orthodoxy kept right faith for over 2,000 years !miracles in Jerusalem today prove it! So ORTHODOXY is the true faith !
@Katta922 --We shouldn't be arguing about the primacy of Peter's chair since even the Orthodox refer to the Pope as first among equals. The idea of a conciliar mindset is a result of the split and the refusal/strife that develped with a central authority. Even the Russian Orthodox church referred itself to as 'the new Rome.' We need to unite, not fight.
@Katta922 Christian Brother we should stop fighting like it says in the Bible we should not fight each other but fight our enemies the Muslims and Protestants. We should Unite again into the Holy Christian Church under the leadership of the Pope well yea like it used to be in the 1st Millium A.D where we were united into One Church
@TheSpaniard1521 No way...Eastern Orthodox will never unite with Pope...all leaders of 4 east churches are the SAME but pope wanted to rule them all which they split ... Pope can rule only to Roman Catholics! Orthodox is the only one church that kept original teachings from Apostles...and thats how its going to be...Orthodox is the ONLY TRUTH...not Roman Catholic
@TheSpaniard1521What a bullshit!!! Orthodoxy has never been created!! It is a way of life and faith in Christ, in which we experience Him, the most explicit way. We admit that when the Church was one and division was not taking place, the bishop of Rome was a ligitimate Church spiritual leader. Unfortunately later in history things has changed and newly addopted understandings of spiritual reality, foreign to the Spirit of God, caused the spiritual crush of the West.
@TheSpaniard1521 Please don't speak such mistaken ideas. If you are a fellow Catholic, read up more about the Eastern churches, our dear brethren, who have resisted so many persecutions from Islam. Do not fight. Let the successors of the apostles work out a reunion of brothers, and let Us pray to God for Unity, as Jesus prayed to the Father for it so that the world might believe He sent Jesus.
Scandaleux ! des Orthodoxes membres du haut clergé qui baisent la main de ce hérétique !!
CANONS DES SAINTS APOTRES – n°45 :
De tout clerc qui a seulement prié avec des hérétiques.
L'évêque, le prêtre ou le diacre qui ne fait que prier avec des hérétiques doit être excommunié; mais s'il leur a permis d'exercer leurs fonctions de clerc, qu'il soit déposé.
Епископ Тихон,трябва да бъде незабавно низвергнат и разпопен.Той коленичи и целува ръката на един еретик!По-точно,това е трябвало да се случи веднага след този негов непростим грях!
Както и на другите двама с него, псевдоправославни.
orthodox truethfuli catholicism is disfigured religion, so they never join.orthodox is Gog, catholicism- devil. no one can confulence these two part of christianity.in the past were ecclestiastical conventions and then orthodox and catholicism was diparrted.
The Church breathes with two lungs. The Churches that believe in The "True Presence" of Christ in the Eucharist need to get over our petty differences and unite (re-unite) in Christ, Jesus. It is was He would expect. There was SIN on both sides of the "schism". If we follow the will of Christ, there should be no problem, He is God after all..or don't you think He has the power to help his Church? Come on, we BOTH need to get over it. Pride is the problem..and sin. On both sides.
Dont do it orthodox Bulgarians or it will be your demise.. the time is coming very soon when the apostasies of Rome will be revealed.. people will leave rome almost a great exodus out of Babylon you will see...
@Marraudor: It is not STUPID to kiss ones Hand. This is a very old custom. Even many people kiss the Hands of their parents in the Orient. It is a sign of reverence and respect.
Especially to kiss the Hands of a Priest who touches with his Hands the body of CHRIST. Such hands are holy and blessed.
The Problem in that video is that the Pope is not "honored" by Orthodox and we do not kiss his Hands.
@adamantis4657 Its extremely stupid. No human on earth is better or superior then any other human. Period. I don't care if they say they believe in god, in allah, in some buddhist man, in a dog, in a cat, or in space. We are just all humans, and god doesn't exist, we can see that by the millions of suffering in this world ;)
Because when we kiss the Hand of a Priest or Hierarch it does not mean that "he is better". WE SHOW RESPECT AND REERENCE to HIS "Job" - to be a PRIEST OF CHRIST.
In truth we honor CHRIST when we honor his PRIESTS. God punished ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT HONOR HIS PROPHETS. In the Bible u will find many passages where the Israelits honored the Prophets and messengers of God.
It is also a sign of humility which is very important for spirituality. ( IN ALL RELIGIONS)
God punished who rejected HIS words through prophets he sent.
It has nothing to do with honoring prophets or priests, because love your neighbor as yourself is far stronger than just to honor your neighbor as yourself.
wow heretic, just like that!!..wow.... if someone does not agree with you is heretic? no wonder your buildings are not full with people with your dictatorship style preaching.
@thelordz72: Yeah, but u would never be allowed to be a member of "my church" because WE ARE NOT HERETICS.
We follow CHRIST, the Holy Apostles, the Holy Fathers, Holy Tradition - and not like protestants - they follow sinner: swimming pool preachers. Self-leading SECTS.
60.000 different protestant SETCS - every minute in USA a new protestant Sect is founded. WOW - I am sure that was what CHRIST wanted when He prayed that ALL MAY BE ONE
WAS IHR STEHT DIE GANZE ZEIT UNS SITZT NICHT-DASS WIRD EUCH SICHERLICH ERRETTEN-WIE NOBEL VON EUCH UNS SELBTHERRLICH.
ICH HASSE EUCH NICHT SONDERN EURE UNBIBLISCHEN BRÄUCHE UND TRADITIONEN DIE NIERGENWO IN NT ZU FINDEN SIND.DIE SICH DUMME MENSCHEN AUSGEDACHT HABEN: GÖTZEN ZU KÜSSEN UND ZU ANDEREN (MARIA UND SOGANNTE HEILIGEN) AUSSER ZUM HEILIGEN VATER UND JC ZU BETEN.
unfortunately you are a bad prophet too, i'm not a protestant. I'm an orthodox by birth but I love all churches and I fight against falls teaching, even if it's with my brother. many of you guys let all people runaway from your churches because of your arrogance and pride, and you say we follow fathers, if you were following fathers you would be raising dead people and not putting to death living people by calling them heretic. making yourself above everyone. Judging belong to God
That is really stupid because NO ONE CAN SAY THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST! NO ONE.
The suffering of the people is not a proof that God does not exist. What nonsense. NO ONE SAID that suffering or not suffering is a proof for God or against his existence.
and you can see between the orthodox people themselves how bigotry some of them are , some of them call us heretics , some say we are brothers in christ . so each one of them follow their own school of orthodoxy , some patriarch want unity , some of them don't even want to meet with the pope
Orthodoxy is divided between themselves about the unity with the Catholic Church
Russian Orthodox don't want unity , for their own political (Russian) reasons whither they admit it or not . they and other greeks think the pope as an enemy
some Orthodox Church's want unity but , want to have more talk about the dogmas
Jesus would never want people to reject unity , who ever want us divided is satan
@adamantis4657 and you know orthodoxy better than your patriarchs ? you just prove my point there is a divisions and school of thoughts inside orthodoxy
this type of orthodoxy is no different than islam , spirit of Hate is in it , and they are empty from inside because the political game is what they want
1.) The question is not if I know Holy Orthodoxy better than "my" Patriarchs - the question is if we keep Holy Orthodoxy or not! And some Hierarchs do not keep it as it was given to us. This is nothing new. Go and study the history of the Church: heretic Popes, heretic Patriarchs, heretic Priests....etc....
Nestorios was the Patriarch of Constantinopel and though he wa one of the greatest heretics of all time?
2.) Divions - than also the catholic church is divided, because I know many catholics which are against celibathy and even priests that have secretly children. Here in Austria EVERYEONE KNOWS that. It is an open sectret. There is also the plattform "Wir sind Kirche - We are the church" - they protest against the Pope and the Cardinal of Austria. They are pro divorce and re-marriage, pro gay ...
So wow - the catholic church is full of DIVISION! Don't forget the Pius Brothers
4.) Holy Orthodoxy does not spread HATE but LOVE. The LOVE for GOD and his TRUTH. There is no greater love than to LOVE GOD AND HIS TRUTH. People today have a very superficual conception of love.
Go and study the Gospels if Christ was preaching TRUE LOVE and not love for sin and rebellion against God.
5.) The RCC is a human made organistation and not the Church of Christ. It is full of modernism and innovation. Papism, Filioque, Indulgences, etc...
@adamantis4657 Orthodoxy that you follow is the rots of bigotry and hate and you know that , so instead of giving us lecture about how beautiful your hatful church is , go and live the gospel of Christ .
@newtochrist: Wow - u permanently talk about hate? And constantly u spread hate to others? As I said, it seems that u are a hypocrite.
Holy Orthodoxy is the TRUE CHURCH of CHRIST! It does not matter if u like it or not. Truth is Truth.
U also did not answer my questions? Hm....???? When u don't want to be judged - do not judge others (perhaps u know some similar verses from the Gospel)
@adamantis4657 call me what you want , muslims call me the same everyday , what is the common between you and them ? Bigotry
I didn't spread hate , I said the Orthodoxy (that you follow) is spreading hate . not EO . for many Orthodox and catholics pray and live together in middle east
as for questions , believe me I didn't even read them . I don't have time for your games , lets put this way
again I am tired from those stupid religions that make people go nuts and full of bigotry
@newtochrist: I am interested in calling u names! I only said the truth. U accused the orthodox church of having many different views and "thoughts". I tried to show u, that u will find such things in EVERY RELIGION and CONFESSION. Also in the RCC .
Orthodox and CAtholics CAN NOT PRAY TOGETHER because this is forbidden by the Saints and the Holy FAthers. But I think u absolutly have NO CLUE on Canons or Ecclesiology.
Because for Orthodox people the RCC is heretic - this is not HATE
@newtochrist: It is not HATE but FACT because the RCC has some heretical teaching. And is full of modernism and liberalism. The Holy Fathers have forbidden to change Tradition etc..
I am sorry but that is how it is. Go and study the Holy FAthers. This is not "my creation". The Holy Canons forbid that we pray with Catholics.
@adamantis4657 They seem to forget that unity is impossible between the Church and Heretics, or since most Latins really don't know any better, Schismatics. It is true, Satan did a great job, over half of the people who call themselves Christians follow the "church" he (Satan) founded! They seem to forget that our Patriarchs are not our overlords, they are not "Eastern Popes", but administrative chiefs. Speaking of political game, look at Rome! Excellent Defense adamantis4657!
как резать нас,они обеими руками за!потому что мы правые,потому что если мы отступим,конец христианству,а болгары вечно православие сдавали то туркам,то гитлеру,а сейчас nato,униаты одно слово
adamantis doesnt know folks that i am not speaking with him ! The Bilbe sayis: if an heretic As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, Titus 3, 10
adamantism folks doenst know that Saint Gregorius Palamas along with Saint Maximus the confessor talk abouth the uncreated enegry of the Holy spirit, while heretic catholics say that there the holy energy is created. Plus he doesnt know friends, that the catholics thanks to this herecy, believe that the saint does the miracles all by him self, but in orthodoxy God makes the mracles through the body of the saint
Catholics do not even have the term "CREATED ENERGIE" - they call it: CREATED GRACE. St. Gregor Palams was the great defender of the UNCREATED ENERGIES OF GOD and he distinguished between:
OUSIA (essence) and ENERGIA (energie) OF GOD - both are DIVINE distinguished but not seperated!
Romanian Elders: Elder Arsenie? Elder Justin? Elder Iaonichie? or the great Dogmatic Dumitru Staniloe? I know all of them! So what's now?
my dear friends adamantis4657 called romanians uneducated, because they are not for the FALSE UNION and i qote: ,,perhaps some uneducated people from romania will listen to it" so he says that IMACULATA CONCEPTIA is for the smart ones, and we orthodox that dont believe in it are stupid, at least this is exactly what he sayed
Yes, because ur vids are NONSENSE and only uneducated people will watch them. Look what nonsense u are posting - only a primitve and unedcated person can post such crap.
Or where are your proofs? Where is your theolgoical training? I hae seen non. Only a primite guy who thinks he can discuss orthodox topics.
@adamantis4657U are not ORTHODOX, you are a catholic who recognised IMACULATA CONCEPTIA and other greath relics that dont exist that are gone ! you are a LIAR, and you should be ashamed ! You just sayed in one of your comments here : UNION and relics, and that is not in the Spirit of the Holy Fathers, you are ECUMENIST and that is the greatest herecy of our time ! PLUS you arent ahsmed because you sayed that Georgia has nothing to do on the topic of the Tunic
Who is interested in Georgia? Who? I am not. The problem is that u are a primitive person without any education or knoweledge. U know nothing.
U are talking about things u have NO CLUE. The Holy Fathers - THEY HAE SAID: DO NOT LIE - have u read about lying and what the Holy Fathers say about people like u?
U are not even able to understand ENGLISH - u have NO EDUCATION. I guess most people there lack of education
say no to false UNION with heretic catholics, repent and return to the true church that is orthodoxy ! shame on you for kissing the hand of an heretic, shame on you for bowing down to that heretic, you can do that to satan is the same thing, bow down and unite with satan ! i as an romanian i dont need this kind of union, because i know the history of catholicism, abouth false teophanis that changed their religion
Hang on didn't the Catholic Church murder millions of people for having their own beliefs ( these innocent people were called heretics, tortured and killed in the most brutal ways ) isn't that GENOCIDE????..... yet they say they are holy????? and they are still causing millions of deaths today. NO
Din asa zisa ,,religie crestina catolica ,, au iesit atatea secte si tot felul de aiureli sau desprins din ea tot felul de erezii si eretici .
Insa din adevarata Biserica Crestina Ortodoxa nu au iesit nici o secta si a ramas pe aceleasi legi instituite din prima era crestina am respectat ceea ce ne-a lasat Mantuitorul Iisus Hristos impreuna cu Sf.Aposti si Sf.Parinti ai Biserici Ortodoxe.
vaiii nu mai zic nimic am ramas stupefiat de ceea ce vad ...oare cum se simt Sf.Parinti care au luptat pt apararea Ortodoxiei vazand prostia pe care o fac bulgarii ....Anatemaaaa anatematizare as vrea
This unity is impossible. There is not oneness of faith and oneness of mind. The Pope needs to give up 1500 years of heresy and become Orthodox, This goes for the Papacy as well. IF there was union not on this bases of repentance of the Papacy, it would be a false union such as in Florence, Italy six hundred years back
@kvn276 how many things you know about these "meetings" and what is the meaning of them? unless you know the Truth keep yourself silent,there is more here than just "getting together" sir! God wants peace more than anyone but not with the devil...!!! learn the Truth and it will set you free!! and you will see that these ecumenism is deadly ....eternal death!!!
@myyvaine sir your overeacting, ecumenism is the best that is going to happen, is better a united christianity than separeted, and i know what im talking about, i have study this alot, and what does the devil has to do with ecumenism, dont tell me that catholicism is satanic, because the only reason i converted to catholicism is because the truth,
@kvn276 am i overacting? do you know that the pope declare himself vicar of Jesus? really? vicar? why vicar? our Lord lives!!we do not need a vicar!!! do you know anything about filioque?what about indulgences? and pope primacy? and immaculate Virgin? do you want me to go deeper into their mistakes of dogma?and with such heretic point of views you want me to join ecumenism? anathema with ecumenism!! and is not something i said but i agree with all those who said it!!
@myyvaine whats wrong about the primacy, he is the vicar of jeusus, Jesus himself lead the foundation of the Catholic Church, and do you know why we need a vicar? because without it, the Catholic Church would be like Protestanism, separatting all the time, new denomonatioms every year, why do we want diferent denominations with diferent beliefs, Catholic Church has always stay toghether because we have a strong Catholic belief. Sure tell me all the suposedly mistakes, and i will prove you wrong
@kvn276 there is nothing you can prove ! first mistake and the worst of them is filioque! if you agree with filioque there is nothing else to say!!! you cannot play games with God!! speaking words He never said!! adding what was forbidden to add or remove!!! cannot play with the Holly Trinity and mess with Their unity and eternal existence and Order...that is why i told you to keep yourself silent!! is God we speak here about not some ordinary person,even so we should be careful!!!
@myyvaine 1) Creed was not forbiddden to add to, if it was then the council of Constant was in herisy for adding to the creed. What the third council fobids is adding a "different beliefe or faith"...the filioque has always been believed as shown by the fathers and scipture.
2) "In Christ Jesus is the FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY"..are you saying the holy spirit doesn't proceed from the fullness of the divinity?
@gtepp031387 you are quite an ignorant! only catholic or protestants are fool enough to call the 7 Holly Ecumenical Councils heretic !! look !! you are heretic!! those Fathers that made the Creed wore inspired by The Holly Spirit! witch means if you do not believe that you do not believe nor the Bible was inspired by The Holly Spirit ! i am glad you wrote Jesus with big letter at beginning but why not The Holly Spirit as well? ...cause you guys defame Him always with filioque
@myyvaine What the heck are you blathering about, when did I say ecumentical councils where heritic????
If you confess that the Holy Spirit did not proceed from the FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY..then you have blastphimed the Holy Spirit! And it is you who are a heritic!
@gtepp031387 can you read? look below and you will see what you wrote...when you hereticly say that the council of Constant was in heresy for adding...i hope you learn from your mistakes,and about those so called "holly fathers" that spoke so humiliating for The Holly Spirit i think they wore catholics after the year 1054...i do not care cause you live in heresy ever since 1054
it's already been 2000 years ago when Jesus said be one and love one another, and now are they being one? give me a break. that mean this is a 2000 year old traditional sin.
thelordz72 1 hour ago
What is up with the Bulgarians?
merkomountain 1 day ago
Why do they kiss his hand like if he is something of a holy status.
Its sad but they praise him like they need him for salvation.
You don't need the pope for salvation, Only through Yeshua aka Jesus.
gfscarface13 2 days ago
Glad to see West and East atleast talking.Jesus ' prayer is that His Church be One.
gingerly66 3 days ago
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I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE CATHOLIC AND ORTHODOX GET RID OF THEIR IDOLS AND PRAYERS TO MEN A MARY AND IDOLS INSTEAD EXCLUSIVELY TO THE HOLY FATHER AND JESUS CHRIST ONLY.
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
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Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
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ORTODOXIA I-A VRUT PE TOTI ROMANII VORBITORI DE SLAVONA SI GREACA.
A taiat limba preotilor valahi care tineau slujba in limba romana.E un miracol ca romanii au supravietuit ca popor.
"Ortodoxia era sa ne piarda de doua ori. Odata cu grecizarea si o data ci slavizarea. Nicolae Iorga"
Tot ce este sub catolicism cunoaste progres si civilizatie. Tot ce este sub ortodoxie -inapoiere culturala si economica.
Deschideti ochii romani, BOR este un parazit intestinal pentru Romania.
Sylvanian1000 1 week ago
DONT KISS HIS HANDS HE IS ONLY A MAN JUST LIKE YOU.
Ni1234ckA 2 weeks ago
@Ni1234ckA
Amen!!
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
thelordz72 1 week ago
@thelordz72
exactly!!!!
IF THE POPE IS THE SUCCESSOR OF APOSTLE PETER THEN HE SHOULD LEARN FROM APOSTLE PETER:
As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. "Stand up," he said, "I am only a man myself."(Acts 10.25-26,NIV)
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@thelordz72: WRONG
Because when u study the Bible u will find THOUSENDS of VERSES where PEOPLE PROSTRATED BEFORE PEOPLE, PROPHETS, ANGELS, etc..
THOUSENDS OF VERSES.
So do not waste your time here and READ YOUR BIBLE!
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA:WRONG
I am not CATHOLIC but to kiss the Hand of a PRIEST or BISHOP is ANCIENT TRADITION. We do not kiss the Hand of a priest because he is not a man but because HE IS THE MINISTER OF CHRIST - with this Hands he bless, He touch the Holy Things.
So when we kiss the Hand of a PRIEST - WE HONOR CHRIST through his SERVANT.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
AUCH ICH BIN KEIN KATHOLIK.
ICH WÜRDE JEDOCH KEINEM GEISTLICHEN DIE HAND KÜSSEN UND SCHON GARNICHT EINEM PAPST ODER METROPOLITEN -DENN BEIDE BETEN ZU STATUEN UND BILDER.
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: ES INTERESSIERT NIEMANDEN WAS DU TUST:
Sonder was die Lehre der Kirche und der Hl. Väter ist. Wir küssen die Hände der Priester - weil wir sein AMT ehren. Nicht weil wir ihn persönlich ehren - sondern das was er tut und FÜR WEN ER ES TUT.
Die Priester spenden den Segen, sie spenden die Hl. Mysterien CHRISTI, sie weihen den Tempel und die Hl Kommunion - SIE BERÜHREN DEN LEIB CHRISTI.
DARUM KÜSSEN WIR IHRE HÄNDE und ehren damit den - DEM SIE DIENEN.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
3) ES INTERESSIERT MICH WENIG WAS DEINE IN TRADION ERSTICKENDE KIRCHE LEHRT. ES GIBT NUR EINEN HEILIGEN VATER:DER HEILIGE VATER VON JESUS CHRISTUS . NICHT EINMAL JESUS WIRD IN DER BIBEL SO GENNANNT WIE KANNST DU ES WAGEN MENSCHEN SO ZU NENNEN.
ALLE APOLSTELN NENNEN NUR EINEN "HEILIGEN VATER":YHWH" UND SONST KEINEN!!!!
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA:
4.) Dann lies die Bibel genauer - denn viele wurden Väter genannt. Warum tust du nicht was man dir sagt? LIES DIE BIBEL.
5.) Du scheinst anscheinend nicht verstanden zu haben wer "YHWH" ist? JESUS CHRISTUS ist YHWH - denn ER IST GOTT. Also wen wir das Vater Unser beten - nennen wir auch Christus VATER, denn diese Gebet wird zur GOTTHEIT gesprochen und nicht zu einer Göttlichen Person.
Du scheinst sehr dumm zu sein!
adamantis4657 1 week ago
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Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
LIEBER GÖTZENDIENER!
HÖR AUF DOCH DUMMES ZEUG ZU REDEN WIR KENNEN AUCH KATHOLIKEN UND ORTHODOXEN
IHR GEHÖRT ZU DEN FAULSTEN WENN ES UM DAS LESEN DER BIBEL GEHT.
IHR STZT DA IN EUREN KIRCHEN UNS SCHWAFELT DAS NACH WAS DER PRIESTER EUCH VORGAUKELT UND ERSTICKT IN EUREN DUMMEN TRADITIONEN UND AM ENDE KÜSST EURE GÖTZENBILDER DIE EUCH EURE PHARISÄERN VON PRIESTER MIT HÄSSLICH UNGEPFLEGTEN BÄRTEN EUCH VORSTRECKEN.
LIEBE GRÜSSE
DER IKONOKLAST.
WACHT AUF GÖTZENDIENER!!!
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: LOL - du scheinst ein bissl Plem Plem zu sein?
So unterhalten habe ich mich schon lange nicht mehr! Ich kenne die Bibel IN und AUSWENDING - denn diese wird in den Orthodoxen Gottesdiensten OHNE UNTERBRECHUNG gelesen. In einer Woche der ganze Psalter zb. Darum kenne ich fast alle Psalmen auswendig du KASPERL.
Wir sitzen nicht - denn sitzen ist VERBOTEN. Wir sind ja keine häretischen Protestanten.
Unsere Heilige Tradition kommt von CHRISTUS selbst nicht von Kasperl wie Luther
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: LOL
Hässliche Bärte - du Gotteslästerer - ALLE PROPHETEN HATTEN BÄRTE du NARR. ALLE APOSTEL, ALLE JUDEN, CHRISTUS HATTE EINEN BART.
Die Apostel HABEN JEDEM MANN VERBOTEN DEN BART ZU RASIEREN - denn GOTT gab dem MANN DEN BART.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
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@adamantis4657
HÄSSLICHE BÄRTE:DIE PROPHETEN MUSSTEN EINEN TRAGEN DEN SIE WAREN JUDEN JEDER JUDE MÄNNLICHER JUDE MUSSTE EINEN TRAGEN.
3Mo 19,27 Ihr sollt nicht den Rand eures Haupthaares rund scheren, und den Rand deines Bartes sollst du nicht verderben.
"Die Apostel HABEN JEDEM MANN VERBOTEN DEN BART ZU RASIEREN - denn GOTT gab dem MANN DEN BART"
DAS IST EINE DRECKE LÜGE UND WAHSCHEINLICH NOCH EINE ORTHODOXE DAZU.DIESER VERS EXISTERNIERT NICHT IM NEUEM TESTAMENT.
LG
IKONOKLAST
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: Darf man auch andere als VATER bezeichnen?
Ja, sicher nur einige dummen Sektierer (Protestanten) glauben man dürfe das nicht. Soll man dann den eingénen Vater nicht mehr Vater nennen? DOCH - denn die Bibel ORDNET unter DROHUNG von STRAFTE an die Eltern zu ehren:
EHRE deinen VATER und deine MUTTER...
Aber sind nicht die Priester auch Väter? Ja, geistige Väter - diese sind noch mehr zu ehren als die biologischen - denn sie erziehen uns als Gottes Väter - zum Glauben
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: Es gibt 12.000 x das Wort Vater und VÄTER in der Bibel:
Auch im Neuen Testament werden viele Propheten usw VÄTER genannt:
Apg 7,2
Stephanus antwortete: Brüder und VÄTER hört mich an! Der Gott der Herrlichkeit erschien unserem VATER Abraham, als er in Mesopotamien lebte, ehe er sich in Haran niederließ,
Röm 9,5
sie haben die VÄTER und dem Fleisch nach entstammt ihnen der Christus, der über allem als Gott steht, er ist gepriesen in Ewigkeit.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA:
Röm 9,10
So war es aber nicht nur bei ihr, sondern auch bei Rebekka: Sie hatte von einem einzigen Mann empfangen, von unserem Vater Isaak,
UNSEREM VATER ISAAK ...
Es gibt HUNDERTE Verse wo Propheten, Älteste usw. MIT VATER oder VÄTER angeredet wird. DAS IST BIBLISCHE BRAUCH wie BRÜDER UND SCHWESTERN.
ALSO FANG AN DIE BIBEL ZU LESEN du HÄRETIKER MOSLEM
adamantis4657 1 week ago
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LIEBER GÖTZENDIENER,
DU KOMMST MIR MIT ISAAK UND STEPHANUS
JUNGE JUNGE SELBSTVERSTÄNDLICH PASST ER HIER-SIE GEHÖREN DEM GLEICHEM VOLK AN ISAAK WIR HIER VATER IM SINNE ALS VORFAHER GENNANNT UND NICHT IM RELIGIÖSEN SINNE.IST DER PARTRICH VON KONSTANIOPEL ODER DER METROPOLIT VON SYRIEN AUS DER GLEICHEN RASSE WIE DU-NEIN!!!!!!!!!
DU GEBRAUCHST VATER IM RELIGIÖSEN SINNE UND DAS IST FALSCH-UNTERSCHEIDUNG ZWISCHEN RELIGÖSEN GERAUCH UND ABATAMMUNG SIND NICHT IDENT.
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
NUR NOCH EINS GÖTZENDIENER !
NIEMAND NENNT JESUS CHRISTUS HEILIGER VATER-VOR ALLEM NICHT IN DER BIBEL.
WENN DU ES TUST DANN BIST NOCH UNGEBILDETER ALS ICH DACHTE.
UND ENTFERN BITTE DAS GÖTZEN BILD DER MARIA VON DEINEM YOUTUBE-KANAL.ES IST WIDERLICH DEINE GÖTZENDIENERGEBETS- AN MARIA ZU LESEN.
LG
DER IKONOKLAST
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: CHRIST IST VATER
Das Vater UNSER wird zur GANZEN GOTTHEIT gesprochen und nicht zu einer GÖTTLICHEN PERSON.
Oder willst du HÄRETIKER sagen CHRISTUS IST NICHT GOTT und EINES WESENS mit dem VATER und dem HL. GEIST?
Dann geh doch zum ISLAM du GOTTESLÄSTERER da würdedst du gut hinpassen.
Ich ENTFERNE GAR NICHTS - schon gar nicht wenn es um die MUTTTER GOTTES - CHRISTI geht - du häretischer Moslem. Du FEIND CHRISTI - möge ER DICH in die Schranken weisen - du GOTTESLÄSTERER
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: STATUEN UND BILDER
Du NARR - GOTT selbst hat angeordnet STATUEN und BILDER anzufertigen. Lies dir doch die BIBEL genau durch. Exodus zB oder das Buch der Könige.
Ausserdem beten wir Orthodoxe nicht BILDER an sondern verehren die auf den Bildern dargestellen PERSONEN.
Du bist anscheinend ein HÄRETIKER ein BILDERZERSTÖRER - die Häresie wurde auf dem 7. Ökumenischen Konzil VERURTEILT.
Du bist also unter ANATHEMA und bist auf EWIG VERDAMMT.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
WACH AUF GÖTZENDIENER:
1)-NIERGEND WO WIRST DU FINDEN SIE ANZUBETEN. ALSO LIES DIE BIBEL GENAU DURUCH ANSTATT NACHZUPLAPPERN WAS DEIN ARCHON ODER METROPOLIT PLAPPERT.
2)DU BIST EIN GÖTZENDIENER DENN DU KÜSST DAS BILDNIS UND BITTTEST DAS BILDNIS ES MÖGE DIR HELFEN ODER FÜR DICH EINTRETTEN.
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@Ni1234ckA: FALSCH du bist ein GÖTZENDIENER:
1.) Ich plappere gar nichts nach. Ich kenne die Bibel und das Wort Gottes aber du anscheinend nicht. So wie alle häritischen Protestaten.
2.) Ich habe dir bereits erklärt, dass niemand Bilder anbetet und Götzen sind sowieso etwas anderes. Du weißt anscheindend nicht was Götzen sind - oder willst du sagen, dass Christus ein heidnischer Götze ist?
3.) Niemand bittet die Ikone zu helfen, sondern die Person die auf der Ikone dargestellt ist
adamantis4657 1 week ago
The Bulgarians must need the money.
Ettoredipugnar 2 weeks ago
@ivaflimkien This situation has not gotten better recently. It has only gotten worse! And you people want me to deny the Holy Fathers and Ecumenical Councils for the sake of this false "brotherly love"? No way! No Thanks! I'd rather burn at that stake!
OrthodoxWay1 2 weeks ago
@ivaflimkien Why am I separated from the Roman Catholic Church? Why do I not want unity? It is not because I don't love the Roman Catholic People. As a follower of Christ I am called to love all men. However, the Roman Catholic Church is, and has been, in schism and heresy for about a thousand years!
OrthodoxWay1 2 weeks ago
@OrthodoxWay1 ok dude, calm down-you hate Catholics, thanks a lot, much appreciated.
That said, I love the Orthodox frame of Christianity, indeed I see it as more mainstream than my Catholic Church. However, while I admire, love and respect Orthodox Christians, I also know that the Holy Father is the heir of Saint Peter, and that my Church is the Universal (Catholic means universal) Church. I hate to point out the differences between Catholic and Orthodox, indeed I see us as the same Christians
ivaflimkien 2 weeks ago
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THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE COULD SEE THIS:
Paul in 1Corinthians1:10-17 said Jesus wants a unified Church.
Is Christ divided?
So why should his Church be?
7micho7 3 weeks ago
I hope and pray to see the day that the Ortodox brethren come into union with Rome.
megaead69 1 month ago 9
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Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
St. Peter is NOT more than the other Apostles. IS EQUAL with all Apostles
Katta922 1 month ago
For those guys who "call for unity " ! FUCK OFF IDIOTS! NEVER!
zizp89 1 month ago
this isthe bulgarian alternative synod, the true bulgarian church don't want unity with catholic
ytb869 1 month ago
ВИЖТЕ ГИ ПРОДАЖНИЦИТЕ. КАК МОЖЕ ДА ЦЕЛУВАТЕ РЪКАТА НА ТОЗИ КОЙТО ВОДИ ВОЙНА СРЕЩУ БЪЛГАРИТЕ. МАМИТО ВИ МРЪСНА ДОЛНА ПРОДАЖНААААААА
Jigov 1 month ago
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@Jigov this isthe bulgarian alternative synod, the true bulgarian church don't want unity with catholic
ytb869 1 month ago
@Jigov само аз ли видях преди години че патриарх максим отиде лично и прегърна целувайки папа иоанпавел втори на площада пред СВЕТИ АЛЕКСАНДЪР НЕВСКИ
danielkazakoff 1 month ago
Вижте го гъзоблизеца!
MrNacko28 1 month ago
JUST GO LITTLE MORE DOWN!!!
radosavljevic1986 2 months ago
let's fuck for our prosperety
Jindohin 2 months ago
matthew 16:19 says: "And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven.And whatever you lose on earth, will be loosed in heaven"
So knowing that Peter has the keys to heaven, he has more authority over the other apostles.So the person he passes his power on to (due to apostolic succession) gains more power over the rest of the successors of the apostles.The Pope has more power, and so he is the rightful successor 2 st. Peter.
JuJuandBob 2 months ago
@JuJuandBob The pope killed more people than Hitler and Stalin put togather. AMIN.
Jigov 1 month ago
@Jigov You're an idiot.
BustinNutDaily 1 month ago
@BustinNutDaily No, you are the idiot. Open some books and READ.
Jigov 1 month ago
@Jigov I never said the pope was perfect. Only his teaching is infallible.
JuJuandBob 1 month ago
@JuJuandBob so you agree with me. thank you.
Jigov 1 month ago
@JuJuandBob LOL POPE is SATANS FOLLOWER!!!! ORTHODOX FOREVER!!!!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@Moonchild091 So by saying that, you are implying that St. Peter the Apostle was a follower of Satan not a follower of Christ, but if you look at Matthew 16:18-19 Jesus gives Matthew the keys to the kingdom of Heaven and he even builds his church upon him. Logically Jesus wouldn't give the keys to the kingdom of Heaven to a follower of Satan, therefore, you have just said an untrue statement.
JuJuandBob 1 month ago
@JuJuandBob Pope well into Heresy!!! Not Peter nor Mattew..If you read revelation carefully u will see what i am talking about!!! Pope is SATAN! Look up the History of the Catholic Church! Btw Roman Catholics are the one creating ISLAM so plz study history better! Pope changed alot of things from original church...it wasnt St Peter..it was a POPE!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@Moonchild091 fell*
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@Moonchild091 Saint Peter was the First Pope Chosen by God to create Catholicism a reunion of Catholics, and Orthodox will be a great thing to see. The Protestants are the Satanist not us Catholics we are the Original Church started by Saint Peter
TheSpaniard1521 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 You are wrong! Original Church are those who never changed dogmatic teachings of holy apostles and holy fathers which is EASTERN ORTHODOX CHURCH! We are similar but Roman Catholicism fell into heresy! Holy Apostolic Catholic Church and Roman Catholics are TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS! Study History of the Church better my friend !!!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@Moonchild091 --I guess both St. Peter and Christ committed a big error in having the former die in Rome where Christ spoke of a church that would not fall to the gates of hell, a rock (petra) where Simon would form the foundation. Oh well, that's just the way it happened.
TheMenghi1 1 month ago
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@TheMenghi1 You are right and that is ORTHODOX....Orthodox Church never fell into Gates of Hell but Roman Catholics have! No wonder why Roman Catholics cant obtain Holy Fire in Jerusalem...its only ORTHODOX that can do that....now do the thinking and see what church is true and what is not!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 If you didnt know the 1st church was NOT created in ROME! It was in Antioch in Syria!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@Moonchild091 the Catholic church has churches there but at the time it was called the Christian Church which later became the Catholic Church
TheSpaniard1521 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 The 1st Church was called Holy Apostolic Catholic Church ...now When i say Catholic Church that is NOT same as ROMAN CATHOLIC church! There were 5 churches that were established Jerusalem Antioch Constantinople Alexandria and Rome...Rome split from the EAST in 1054 but even before that they had problems with other 4 churches that never changed teachings of Apostles and dogmatic teachings of the Church...Roman Catholics changed it all...one of them is Crossing!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 and there is alot more ...they took off holy Icons and put statues and they said that Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son...and they believe in Purgatory we dont ...so all things they changed from Original churches and they fell into heresy ...No wonder why i think that Roman Catholics are not original church is because they cant NOT OBTAIN Holy Fire in Jerusalem ..Only Orthodoxy can do that!
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 St. Peter is in Rome when you say that Catholicism was established !St. Paul was then in captivity and do not remember all of this St. Peter in Rome !Orthodoxy today miracles prove the existence of one true faith, Orthodoxy !
Katta922 1 month ago
@Katta922 Orthodoxy was created so you wont have to follow the Pope so you can do whatever you want to. You People end up in PURGATORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheSpaniard1521 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 PURGADORY DOESNT EXIST ! IF EXIST PURGATORYY EVERY PEOPLE NEED TO GO IN HAVEN AND EVIL DESNT EXIST...PURGATORY IS A HERESY IN HOLY BIBLE ! +Dvs. Căutare Imagini Videoclipuri Hărţi Traducere Corespondenţă Mai multe katta_angel_92@yahoo.com
Traducere
NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY purgatory, OR THE PLACE
Katta922 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 Orthodoxy has preserved unaltered to this day teaching, so you can see even today the authenticity of true faith! in Bible, Pope doesn't exist,just patriarchs like today! Catholicism has innovated many things, and is wrong.orthodoxy has kept the true not innovate and Orthodoxy kept right faith for over 2,000 years !miracles in Jerusalem today prove it! So ORTHODOXY is the true faith !
Katta922 1 month ago
@Katta922 --We shouldn't be arguing about the primacy of Peter's chair since even the Orthodox refer to the Pope as first among equals. The idea of a conciliar mindset is a result of the split and the refusal/strife that develped with a central authority. Even the Russian Orthodox church referred itself to as 'the new Rome.' We need to unite, not fight.
TheMenghi1 1 month ago
@TheMenghi1 You are so right, brother. Let us exhort those amongst us who wish to fight, that Christ calls us to Unity, Peace, and Love in Him.
FRAGIORGIO1 1 month ago
@Katta922 Christian Brother we should stop fighting like it says in the Bible we should not fight each other but fight our enemies the Muslims and Protestants. We should Unite again into the Holy Christian Church under the leadership of the Pope well yea like it used to be in the 1st Millium A.D where we were united into One Church
TheSpaniard1521 1 month ago
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@TheSpaniard1521 No way...Eastern Orthodox will never unite with Pope...all leaders of 4 east churches are the SAME but pope wanted to rule them all which they split ... Pope can rule only to Roman Catholics! Orthodox is the only one church that kept original teachings from Apostles...and thats how its going to be...Orthodox is the ONLY TRUTH...not Roman Catholic
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 when the all people of the worl will be ORTHODOX will be end of the world ! one day all people will be ORTHODOX !
Katta922 1 month ago
@Katta922 We will Be Christian again
TheSpaniard1521 1 month ago
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@TheSpaniard1521 WHAT? Do you even know the history of the Church....i guess not...there is no PURGATORY!!! lol dont make me laugh
Moonchild091 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521What a bullshit!!! Orthodoxy has never been created!! It is a way of life and faith in Christ, in which we experience Him, the most explicit way. We admit that when the Church was one and division was not taking place, the bishop of Rome was a ligitimate Church spiritual leader. Unfortunately later in history things has changed and newly addopted understandings of spiritual reality, foreign to the Spirit of God, caused the spiritual crush of the West.
mi6obravoto 1 month ago
@mi6obravoto The first Pope was chosen by God to do his work his name is Saint Peter
TheSpaniard1521 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 Correct! And so?
mi6obravoto 1 month ago
@TheSpaniard1521 Please don't speak such mistaken ideas. If you are a fellow Catholic, read up more about the Eastern churches, our dear brethren, who have resisted so many persecutions from Islam. Do not fight. Let the successors of the apostles work out a reunion of brothers, and let Us pray to God for Unity, as Jesus prayed to the Father for it so that the world might believe He sent Jesus.
FRAGIORGIO1 1 month ago
Scandaleux ! des Orthodoxes membres du haut clergé qui baisent la main de ce hérétique !!
CANONS DES SAINTS APOTRES – n°45 :
De tout clerc qui a seulement prié avec des hérétiques.
L'évêque, le prêtre ou le diacre qui ne fait que prier avec des hérétiques doit être excommunié; mais s'il leur a permis d'exercer leurs fonctions de clerc, qu'il soit déposé.
Gropafpaf 2 months ago
Епископ Тихон,трябва да бъде незабавно низвергнат и разпопен.Той коленичи и целува ръката на един еретик!По-точно,това е трябвало да се случи веднага след този негов непростим грях!
Както и на другите двама с него, псевдоправославни.
Val4an 2 months ago
orthodox truethfuli catholicism is disfigured religion, so they never join.orthodox is Gog, catholicism- devil. no one can confulence these two part of christianity.in the past were ecclestiastical conventions and then orthodox and catholicism was diparrted.
aniut7 2 months ago
The Church breathes with two lungs. The Churches that believe in The "True Presence" of Christ in the Eucharist need to get over our petty differences and unite (re-unite) in Christ, Jesus. It is was He would expect. There was SIN on both sides of the "schism". If we follow the will of Christ, there should be no problem, He is God after all..or don't you think He has the power to help his Church? Come on, we BOTH need to get over it. Pride is the problem..and sin. On both sides.
bheadh 2 months ago
Hallelujah!
bheadh 2 months ago
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Catholic Orthodox Protestant are one faith.
Three Christian religions believe in same God in Jesus Christ Messiah,and in God's word in Gospel in the New Testament.
Lord Jesus Christ Bless all Christians(Catholic,Protestant,Orthodox)
Long Live Christianity.
Malesori1111 3 months ago
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Catholic Orthodox Protestant are one faith.
Three Christian religions believe in same God in Jesus Christ Messiah,and in God's word in Gospel in the New Testament.
Lord Jesus Christ Bless all Christians(Catholic,Protestant,Orthodox)
Long Live Christianity.
Malesori1111 3 months ago
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GREETING FROM POLAND FOR CHRISTIAN ORTHODOX!!!!!!!!
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CATHOLICK ORTHODOX PROTESTANTYSM FOREVER
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MrBOMBA1916 3 months ago
Faithful Orthodox see too many of their Bishops try to betray the Orthodox Faith.
Antiphyletist 3 months ago
Dont do it orthodox Bulgarians or it will be your demise.. the time is coming very soon when the apostasies of Rome will be revealed.. people will leave rome almost a great exodus out of Babylon you will see...
marmolejomarc 3 months ago
Every time I watch this video I give a - !
ar6inkov 3 months ago
OMG ,THE WHOLE KISSING RITUAL AND CAPES AND STUFF IS SOO FRIGGIN STUPID, I DOMINATE THOSE MAN
Marraudor 3 months ago
@Marraudor: It is not STUPID to kiss ones Hand. This is a very old custom. Even many people kiss the Hands of their parents in the Orient. It is a sign of reverence and respect.
Especially to kiss the Hands of a Priest who touches with his Hands the body of CHRIST. Such hands are holy and blessed.
The Problem in that video is that the Pope is not "honored" by Orthodox and we do not kiss his Hands.
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@adamantis4657 Its extremely stupid. No human on earth is better or superior then any other human. Period. I don't care if they say they believe in god, in allah, in some buddhist man, in a dog, in a cat, or in space. We are just all humans, and god doesn't exist, we can see that by the millions of suffering in this world ;)
Marraudor 3 months ago
@Marraudor: WRONG.
Because when we kiss the Hand of a Priest or Hierarch it does not mean that "he is better". WE SHOW RESPECT AND REERENCE to HIS "Job" - to be a PRIEST OF CHRIST.
In truth we honor CHRIST when we honor his PRIESTS. God punished ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT HONOR HIS PROPHETS. In the Bible u will find many passages where the Israelits honored the Prophets and messengers of God.
It is also a sign of humility which is very important for spirituality. ( IN ALL RELIGIONS)
adamantis4657 3 months ago 5
@adamantis4657
God punished who rejected HIS words through prophets he sent.
It has nothing to do with honoring prophets or priests, because love your neighbor as yourself is far stronger than just to honor your neighbor as yourself.
thelordz72 1 week ago
@thelordz72: WRONG HERETIC:
It has to to with HONORING the PROPHETS - because when u honor them - U WILL HONOR HIM that spoke to them.
When u not honor them - u DISHONOR GOD who spoke to them.
The same when u not ACCEPT CHRIST - than u als do not accept HIM - who HAS SENT HIM.
Again u are very silly! It is always the same with u HERETICS.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
wow heretic, just like that!!..wow.... if someone does not agree with you is heretic? no wonder your buildings are not full with people with your dictatorship style preaching.
I would love to get out of your church.
thelordz72 1 week ago
@thelordz72: WRONG
He is not a HERETIC because he does not agree with ME but because the Holy CHURCH through the Holy Spirit and the Holy Fathers HAVE CONMENED HIM.
He is under ANATHEMA like ALL PROTESTANTS: Protestants are Crypto-Nestorians, Iconoclasts etc. ALL THESE HERESIES WERE CONDEMNED BY ALL CHRISTIANS.
LOL - have u never seen an ORTHODOX TEMPLE? FULL WITH PEOPLE - not like protestant churches in germany - COMPLETELY EMPTY - come and see.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@thelordz72: Why Protestant CHURCHES are empty?
Why tens of thousends leave the Protestant Churches every year in Germany? BECAUSE PROTESTANTISM is AN EMPTY IDEOLOGY and not a CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
Protestantism is SECTARINISM - HERESY and CONDEMNATION.
adamantis4657 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
IHR LIEBT TRADITIONEN MEHR ALS DAS NT DEN EURE TRADITIONEN FINDEN SICH NICHT IM NT.
GÖTZENDIENER!!!
ICH HOFFE DAS SICH JC EUCH TROTZDEM ERBARMT
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@thelordz72: Yeah, but u would never be allowed to be a member of "my church" because WE ARE NOT HERETICS.
We follow CHRIST, the Holy Apostles, the Holy Fathers, Holy Tradition - and not like protestants - they follow sinner: swimming pool preachers. Self-leading SECTS.
60.000 different protestant SETCS - every minute in USA a new protestant Sect is founded. WOW - I am sure that was what CHRIST wanted when He prayed that ALL MAY BE ONE
adamantis4657 1 week ago
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@adamantis4657
LG GÖTZENDIENER;
WAS IHR STEHT DIE GANZE ZEIT UNS SITZT NICHT-DASS WIRD EUCH SICHERLICH ERRETTEN-WIE NOBEL VON EUCH UNS SELBTHERRLICH.
ICH HASSE EUCH NICHT SONDERN EURE UNBIBLISCHEN BRÄUCHE UND TRADITIONEN DIE NIERGENWO IN NT ZU FINDEN SIND.DIE SICH DUMME MENSCHEN AUSGEDACHT HABEN: GÖTZEN ZU KÜSSEN UND ZU ANDEREN (MARIA UND SOGANNTE HEILIGEN) AUSSER ZUM HEILIGEN VATER UND JC ZU BETEN.
Ni1234ckA 1 week ago
@adamantis4657
unfortunately you are a bad prophet too, i'm not a protestant. I'm an orthodox by birth but I love all churches and I fight against falls teaching, even if it's with my brother. many of you guys let all people runaway from your churches because of your arrogance and pride, and you say we follow fathers, if you were following fathers you would be raising dead people and not putting to death living people by calling them heretic. making yourself above everyone. Judging belong to God
thelordz72 1 week ago
@Marraudor: HOW STUPID TO SAY GOD DOES NOT EXIST!
That is really stupid because NO ONE CAN SAY THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST! NO ONE.
The suffering of the people is not a proof that God does not exist. What nonsense. NO ONE SAID that suffering or not suffering is a proof for God or against his existence.
adamantis4657 3 months ago
and you can see between the orthodox people themselves how bigotry some of them are , some of them call us heretics , some say we are brothers in christ . so each one of them follow their own school of orthodoxy , some patriarch want unity , some of them don't even want to meet with the pope
newtochrist 3 months ago
Orthodoxy is divided between themselves about the unity with the Catholic Church
Russian Orthodox don't want unity , for their own political (Russian) reasons whither they admit it or not . they and other greeks think the pope as an enemy
some Orthodox Church's want unity but , want to have more talk about the dogmas
Jesus would never want people to reject unity , who ever want us divided is satan
and he did a good job
newtochrist 3 months ago
@newtochrist: The orthodox church is not divided!
But we have to "fight" against any kind of innovation and modernism and heresy. AS THE SAINTS did.
The RCC is heretic and full of heresy and modernism. Our Patriarchs are not infallible and the Patriarchs can ERR.
ECUMENISM is THE HERESY OF HERESIES!
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@adamantis4657 and you know orthodoxy better than your patriarchs ? you just prove my point there is a divisions and school of thoughts inside orthodoxy
this type of orthodoxy is no different than islam , spirit of Hate is in it , and they are empty from inside because the political game is what they want
God Bless The Holy Catholic Church
newtochrist 3 months ago
@newtochrist:
1.) The question is not if I know Holy Orthodoxy better than "my" Patriarchs - the question is if we keep Holy Orthodoxy or not! And some Hierarchs do not keep it as it was given to us. This is nothing new. Go and study the history of the Church: heretic Popes, heretic Patriarchs, heretic Priests....etc....
Nestorios was the Patriarch of Constantinopel and though he wa one of the greatest heretics of all time?
Wow and now?
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@newtochrist:
2.) Divions - than also the catholic church is divided, because I know many catholics which are against celibathy and even priests that have secretly children. Here in Austria EVERYEONE KNOWS that. It is an open sectret. There is also the plattform "Wir sind Kirche - We are the church" - they protest against the Pope and the Cardinal of Austria. They are pro divorce and re-marriage, pro gay ...
So wow - the catholic church is full of DIVISION! Don't forget the Pius Brothers
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@newtochrist: AGAIN - DIVISIONS
3.) On the other side there are als extrem conservative catholics - they say that the RCC and the Papacy is innovated with modernism and liberalsim.
Wow so much divisions and so much different schools of thoughts. I think u are a hypocrite?
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@newtochrist: HATE
4.) Holy Orthodoxy does not spread HATE but LOVE. The LOVE for GOD and his TRUTH. There is no greater love than to LOVE GOD AND HIS TRUTH. People today have a very superficual conception of love.
Go and study the Gospels if Christ was preaching TRUE LOVE and not love for sin and rebellion against God.
5.) The RCC is a human made organistation and not the Church of Christ. It is full of modernism and innovation. Papism, Filioque, Indulgences, etc...
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@adamantis4657 Orthodoxy that you follow is the rots of bigotry and hate and you know that , so instead of giving us lecture about how beautiful your hatful church is , go and live the gospel of Christ .
No thank you I don't need another Islam
newtochrist 3 months ago
@newtochrist: Wow - u permanently talk about hate? And constantly u spread hate to others? As I said, it seems that u are a hypocrite.
Holy Orthodoxy is the TRUE CHURCH of CHRIST! It does not matter if u like it or not. Truth is Truth.
U also did not answer my questions? Hm....???? When u don't want to be judged - do not judge others (perhaps u know some similar verses from the Gospel)
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@adamantis4657 call me what you want , muslims call me the same everyday , what is the common between you and them ? Bigotry
I didn't spread hate , I said the Orthodoxy (that you follow) is spreading hate . not EO . for many Orthodox and catholics pray and live together in middle east
as for questions , believe me I didn't even read them . I don't have time for your games , lets put this way
again I am tired from those stupid religions that make people go nuts and full of bigotry
peace
newtochrist 3 months ago
@newtochrist: I am interested in calling u names! I only said the truth. U accused the orthodox church of having many different views and "thoughts". I tried to show u, that u will find such things in EVERY RELIGION and CONFESSION. Also in the RCC .
Orthodox and CAtholics CAN NOT PRAY TOGETHER because this is forbidden by the Saints and the Holy FAthers. But I think u absolutly have NO CLUE on Canons or Ecclesiology.
Because for Orthodox people the RCC is heretic - this is not HATE
adamantis4657 3 months ago
@newtochrist: It is not HATE but FACT because the RCC has some heretical teaching. And is full of modernism and liberalism. The Holy Fathers have forbidden to change Tradition etc..
I am sorry but that is how it is. Go and study the Holy FAthers. This is not "my creation". The Holy Canons forbid that we pray with Catholics.
adamantis4657 3 months ago 2
@adamantis4657 that`s right!
ar6inkov 3 months ago
@adamantis4657 They seem to forget that unity is impossible between the Church and Heretics, or since most Latins really don't know any better, Schismatics. It is true, Satan did a great job, over half of the people who call themselves Christians follow the "church" he (Satan) founded! They seem to forget that our Patriarchs are not our overlords, they are not "Eastern Popes", but administrative chiefs. Speaking of political game, look at Rome! Excellent Defense adamantis4657!
pl1778 3 months ago
как резать нас,они обеими руками за!потому что мы правые,потому что если мы отступим,конец христианству,а болгары вечно православие сдавали то туркам,то гитлеру,а сейчас nato,униаты одно слово
sybyrtat 3 months ago
What is this before me? Atheism is the future, not Jesus.
Lindemann04109 3 months ago
@Lindemann04109 Your Stupid!
Neizvestnyu 3 months ago
adamantis doesnt know folks that i am not speaking with him ! The Bilbe sayis: if an heretic As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, Titus 3, 10
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: LOL - hahah now u are talking to yourself?
Why don't u use your time to read some books? Or do some study? Get some education....
The Bible - do u know that the Bible says about liars? And blasphmers?
adamantis4657 4 months ago
dont listen to him folks, he is just an wolf in sheep cloath, he pretends to be orthodox
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: NO answer? Do u think anyone will read your silly posts?
It would be better to use your time to get some education! LEARN ENGLISH. LOL
adamantis4657 4 months ago
plus folks adamantis is very stupid, because if i was answering to him, that i should use this @
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
adamantism folks doenst know that Saint Gregorius Palamas along with Saint Maximus the confessor talk abouth the uncreated enegry of the Holy spirit, while heretic catholics say that there the holy energy is created. Plus he doesnt know friends, that the catholics thanks to this herecy, believe that the saint does the miracles all by him self, but in orthodoxy God makes the mracles through the body of the saint
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: UNCREATED ENERGIE!
Catholics do not even have the term "CREATED ENERGIE" - they call it: CREATED GRACE. St. Gregor Palams was the great defender of the UNCREATED ENERGIES OF GOD and he distinguished between:
OUSIA (essence) and ENERGIA (energie) OF GOD - both are DIVINE distinguished but not seperated!
Romanian Elders: Elder Arsenie? Elder Justin? Elder Iaonichie? or the great Dogmatic Dumitru Staniloe? I know all of them! So what's now?
adamantis4657 4 months ago
adamantis4657 doesnt know that all fathers from Romania speak abouth false UNITY and against ecumenism
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: AGAIN U ARE ANSWERING! - wow - u said u will not post again!
The Romanian Fathers - why u are always talking about ROMANIA? I have asked u about St. Gregory Palamas BUT NO ANSWER.
Staretz Cleopa? Blessed Arsenios Boca? St. John the Romanian? .... Staretz Cleopa said: U should always have the fear of God and PRAY PRAY PRAY....
Why do u not listen to him? Why do u not have the fear of God? Do u know his speech on the All-immaculate Mother of God?
adamantis4657 4 months ago
my dear friends adamantis4657 called romanians uneducated, because they are not for the FALSE UNION and i qote: ,,perhaps some uneducated people from romania will listen to it" so he says that IMACULATA CONCEPTIA is for the smart ones, and we orthodox that dont believe in it are stupid, at least this is exactly what he sayed
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: LOL - u are anwering again! LOL
Yes, because ur vids are NONSENSE and only uneducated people will watch them. Look what nonsense u are posting - only a primitve and unedcated person can post such crap.
Or where are your proofs? Where is your theolgoical training? I hae seen non. Only a primite guy who thinks he can discuss orthodox topics.
adamantis4657 4 months ago
@adamantis4657U are not ORTHODOX, you are a catholic who recognised IMACULATA CONCEPTIA and other greath relics that dont exist that are gone ! you are a LIAR, and you should be ashamed ! You just sayed in one of your comments here : UNION and relics, and that is not in the Spirit of the Holy Fathers, you are ECUMENIST and that is the greatest herecy of our time ! PLUS you arent ahsmed because you sayed that Georgia has nothing to do on the topic of the Tunic
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN GEORGIA!
Who is interested in Georgia? Who? I am not. The problem is that u are a primitive person without any education or knoweledge. U know nothing.
U are talking about things u have NO CLUE. The Holy Fathers - THEY HAE SAID: DO NOT LIE - have u read about lying and what the Holy Fathers say about people like u?
U are not even able to understand ENGLISH - u have NO EDUCATION. I guess most people there lack of education
adamantis4657 4 months ago
say no to false UNION with heretic catholics, repent and return to the true church that is orthodoxy ! shame on you for kissing the hand of an heretic, shame on you for bowing down to that heretic, you can do that to satan is the same thing, bow down and unite with satan ! i as an romanian i dont need this kind of union, because i know the history of catholicism, abouth false teophanis that changed their religion
TheMistAnchorite 4 months ago
@TheMistAnchorite: NO U ARE CRAZY!
What u are posting is PURE NONSENSE and not worthy for an orthodox christian. U are a student of theology? Wow - your college must be good!
U are mad - BECAUSE WE ORTHODOX HONOR ALL RELICS OF CHRIST - ALL. It does not matter from which part of the Body!
adamantis4657 4 months ago
Hang on didn't the Catholic Church murder millions of people for having their own beliefs ( these innocent people were called heretics, tortured and killed in the most brutal ways ) isn't that GENOCIDE????..... yet they say they are holy????? and they are still causing millions of deaths today. NO
ozzy1melbourne 4 months ago
This is bad,I would like to see Chatholics and Orthodox together again but if the Catholics join the Orthodox.Why did not Pope kissed his hand ?
Nemanja1475 4 months ago
bull shit..i am orthodox and this is a lie
palteck 5 months ago
NO!
arthurkomarovskij 5 months ago
Din asa zisa ,,religie crestina catolica ,, au iesit atatea secte si tot felul de aiureli sau desprins din ea tot felul de erezii si eretici .
Insa din adevarata Biserica Crestina Ortodoxa nu au iesit nici o secta si a ramas pe aceleasi legi instituite din prima era crestina am respectat ceea ce ne-a lasat Mantuitorul Iisus Hristos impreuna cu Sf.Aposti si Sf.Parinti ai Biserici Ortodoxe.
TheVECERNIA 5 months ago
vaiii nu mai zic nimic am ramas stupefiat de ceea ce vad ...oare cum se simt Sf.Parinti care au luptat pt apararea Ortodoxiei vazand prostia pe care o fac bulgarii ....Anatemaaaa anatematizare as vrea
TheVECERNIA 5 months ago
I never said want to join us,,,read what I said only Christ Himself will unite the Church's and even then some will resisit.....because of Pride
Canisius19 6 months ago
The bulgarian church is the oldest slavonic autocephalous Orthodox church in the world! Much older than the Russian church!
gringoroko 6 months ago
@gringoroko yes your church is older than catholic 184 years(870 year recognition) and now your church kissing hand of papa,shame
zizp89 5 months ago
@zizp89
for the record, i am a catholic. Anyway Christianity must unite, otherwise islam will blow away the civilized world badly.
gringoroko 5 months ago
This unity is impossible. There is not oneness of faith and oneness of mind. The Pope needs to give up 1500 years of heresy and become Orthodox, This goes for the Papacy as well. IF there was union not on this bases of repentance of the Papacy, it would be a false union such as in Florence, Italy six hundred years back
february17able 7 months ago
It's time to find unity against our enemy that grows strong everyday...
imtv 7 months ago
We are one body of Christ! and In Christ, we will live forever!
huynguyenkimnga 7 months ago
@QARTVELI07
Georgia, you are welcome too.
TheChurchAuthentic 7 months ago
i hope that the two churches get together!!!
kvn276 7 months ago 13
@kvn276 how many things you know about these "meetings" and what is the meaning of them? unless you know the Truth keep yourself silent,there is more here than just "getting together" sir! God wants peace more than anyone but not with the devil...!!! learn the Truth and it will set you free!! and you will see that these ecumenism is deadly ....eternal death!!!
myyvaine 7 months ago
@myyvaine sir your overeacting, ecumenism is the best that is going to happen, is better a united christianity than separeted, and i know what im talking about, i have study this alot, and what does the devil has to do with ecumenism, dont tell me that catholicism is satanic, because the only reason i converted to catholicism is because the truth,
kvn276 7 months ago
@kvn276 am i overacting? do you know that the pope declare himself vicar of Jesus? really? vicar? why vicar? our Lord lives!!we do not need a vicar!!! do you know anything about filioque?what about indulgences? and pope primacy? and immaculate Virgin? do you want me to go deeper into their mistakes of dogma?and with such heretic point of views you want me to join ecumenism? anathema with ecumenism!! and is not something i said but i agree with all those who said it!!
myyvaine 7 months ago
@myyvaine whats wrong about the primacy, he is the vicar of jeusus, Jesus himself lead the foundation of the Catholic Church, and do you know why we need a vicar? because without it, the Catholic Church would be like Protestanism, separatting all the time, new denomonatioms every year, why do we want diferent denominations with diferent beliefs, Catholic Church has always stay toghether because we have a strong Catholic belief. Sure tell me all the suposedly mistakes, and i will prove you wrong
kvn276 7 months ago
@kvn276 there is nothing you can prove ! first mistake and the worst of them is filioque! if you agree with filioque there is nothing else to say!!! you cannot play games with God!! speaking words He never said!! adding what was forbidden to add or remove!!! cannot play with the Holly Trinity and mess with Their unity and eternal existence and Order...that is why i told you to keep yourself silent!! is God we speak here about not some ordinary person,even so we should be careful!!!
myyvaine 7 months ago
@myyvaine check your messeges inbox, my reply dint fit in here.
kvn276 7 months ago
@myyvaine 1) Creed was not forbiddden to add to, if it was then the council of Constant was in herisy for adding to the creed. What the third council fobids is adding a "different beliefe or faith"...the filioque has always been believed as shown by the fathers and scipture.
2) "In Christ Jesus is the FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY"..are you saying the holy spirit doesn't proceed from the fullness of the divinity?
gtepp031387 5 months ago
@gtepp031387 you are quite an ignorant! only catholic or protestants are fool enough to call the 7 Holly Ecumenical Councils heretic !! look !! you are heretic!! those Fathers that made the Creed wore inspired by The Holly Spirit! witch means if you do not believe that you do not believe nor the Bible was inspired by The Holly Spirit ! i am glad you wrote Jesus with big letter at beginning but why not The Holly Spirit as well? ...cause you guys defame Him always with filioque
myyvaine 5 months ago
@myyvaine What the heck are you blathering about, when did I say ecumentical councils where heritic????
If you confess that the Holy Spirit did not proceed from the FULLNESS OF THE DIVINITY..then you have blastphimed the Holy Spirit! And it is you who are a heritic!
gtepp031387 5 months ago
@gtepp031387 can you read? look below and you will see what you wrote...when you hereticly say that the council of Constant was in heresy for adding...i hope you learn from your mistakes,and about those so called "holly fathers" that spoke so humiliating for The Holly Spirit i think they wore catholics after the year 1054...i do not care cause you live in heresy ever since 1054
myyvaine 5 months ago