Healthcare Funeral Procession by the Pinellas Patriots

[ScottyUrb]

You held a funeral procession for the old healthcare 'system?' The one that forced thousands of people to die each year because they didn't even have the money to get or keep insurance?

I don't know why you would do that - unless you're just upset that Barack Hussein Obama has actually ACHIEVED some of what he set out to do. Why be afraid of Obama's success, when our country has needed a leader like him for so long?

God Bless Our Nation And Our Freely Elected President!

[boojee123]

Powerful statement by citizens who care enough about the country and fellow citizens to put themselves out there.

[pinklollipopstees]

awesome...inspiring...hope to see all of you in dc on 9.12.

[AnnaMagd]

Oh, yeah! These folks are patriots ALL! THEY SEE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON! This ain't about making healthcare available to those without. This is about taking our freedoms away and the conversion of our country to socialism. This is an attack on liberty. Do you like the idea of a National Heath Care ID card? What about a National ID card that everyone of us would be forced to get if we want to get a driver's license? Google the REAL ID Act, now called the PASS ID Act.

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

So can anyone explain why the government offering a health insurance program that people can buy into and where the premiums cover the costs of care is such a bad idea?

[Obezeballz469]

.........Have you even read the bill??

To me, it is, like Cap and Trade, a good idea by itself.

BUT

Why force congress to pass it without reading it? Why not give them more time? Why lie about it?

Obama has directly lied. He says that it is there to be competitive with private healthcare.

BUT

In the bill (I forget which page) it says that companies will be forced to switch to government healthcare and also fined thousands of dollars if they do not.

And that is just ONE THING out of 500.

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

Please provide more info, as i understand it, private insurance companies will have to meet new standards and companies that do not provide insurance will have to pay a fine, but there is no requirement for companies to switch to the gov health care.

[Obezeballz469]

I would copy and paste it directly from the house bill

But we're only allowed 400+ characters

It is, however, on page 16 or 17 I believe??

Either way it is in there.

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

is that the full text hr3200 or simplified language version

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

So bear with me:

Title 1 sec 102 pgs 16 to 19 full text hr3200 relate to allowing current health plans to be grandfathered in. Non grandfathered health insurance (perhaps only individual insurance) will have to be through an Exchange-participating health benefits plan. Employment health insurance grandfathered in will have to meet a minimum standard of insurance.

I am still working through this part so like I already said, bear with me.

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

sec 113 (b) pg 21 is probably what you are referring to originally. This section discusses self-insurance: where a company sets up its own insurance fund rather than buying into a corporate plan. When a company is a certain size they can accurately estimate costs because they have a large enough sample size (polling terminology). Whereas small and mid-sized groups might not be large enough to allow for accurate estimations and thus risk insolvency because of costs going too high.

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

Sec 113 (b) is about studying where that line is drawn both in terms of people in the self-insured plan and statistically necessary financial backing to remain solvent. The commissioner will set up the regulations so that companies that are too small will be pushed towards buying into a larger plan rather than setting their own plan up. This does not mean buying gov insurance, but rather it includes buying bc/bs, aetna, or other private plans.

[Obezeballz469]

"he commissioner will set up the regulations so that companies that are too small will be pushed towards buying into a larger plan"

Thats what I have a problem with. Pushing them to get into buying private plans. And I feel that, while not right off the bat, they will be forced into taking a government insurance plan.

We will disagree, but at least you put up the credible source. And because of it I am considering your pov.

Thanks for backing your words up :)

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

If you want to see my pov watch the videos on my channel. Though I have set up a new channel "HR3200Explained" in which I will be explaining the language of the bill. In bout an hour and half going to get the actual bill printed out. I hate having to look through it online.

[Obezeballz469]

You got a subscriber.

PDF isn't the funnest to read.

Maybe we can get James Earl Jones to read bills on tape.

From my POV, I love to make a judgement based on all sides of the story. Rather it be from Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, or Rachel Maddow or anyone else.

But the best bet IMO is to read it yourself and judge for yourself. The only truth we'll ever find is in ourselves and in our respected religious beliefs (including athiests).

[ChrisTheTruckDriver]

I actually had it printed out. I am not going to try to read that entire bill on my computer. Between flipping through pages and general eye sore, it would be too much.

Unfortunately I cannot afford JEJ to read it, so you will have to deal with the subpar sound of my voice.

[jerryknoff]

Very inspiring! We need to speak up Loud & Continously! NO OBAMA "CARE"!

Thank you for your lead in this!

[artshowgirl]

Everyone needs to be in DC for the Sept 12 march. It's time to let them see who's boss!

Is this pinellas, MS?

[tennesseepatriot]

awesome! U go, Pinellas Patriots. Soon every town in every state will be following suit! WOOHOO! God bless America - we the people - will stay FREE!

[theantipro]

Onward!!!!!

[KarenButrick]

what a great video and statement... Wish I was there with you.....

[computerpurple]

Beep , beep. keep up the battle against HELLcare.

[hoidy12]

Roll ON Pinellas Patriots!!! Let's all roll into DC!!!!

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