Scarface is one of the bets movies ever, disagree totally with Siskel here. Showing evil is interesting in itself, everybody is fascinated why some people are like this in the world.
Siskel and Ebert's two thumbs down for Mickey's Christmas Carol is a classic disconnect between their points-of-view and my point-of-view. I guess I'm unfairly biased by the fact that I saw this many times as a child around Christmastime, and that it holds a certain sentimental value to me despite the fact that it may do absolutely nothing for such seasoned movie critics as Siskel and Ebert. Looking at how they review it, though, I can agree with them on some of the negative aspects of it.
How does someone get their own TV show when they can't even grasp the basic point of Scarface? He's "boring" because his life and morals are empty because all he cares about is himself. The one time in the movie his character is dynamic is when he refuses to kill the family. Ironically, that leads to his downfall. I don't see how Siskel could've missed that.
There are real problems with scarface....terrible accents, crappy cinematography, annoying over blown music...but siskel's criticism was retarded. What's interesting in this movie is that tony's one virtuous act leads to his downfall.
Ebert is actually totally right this time. why do characters in movies have to be redeemable? the point is that you can build an empire out of shit, but in the end, its still shit!
And boy does Charles Ferguson's Inside Job ram that truth home! I think Chris Hitchens puts it most succinctly when he says there's a real difference between those who just make money, and those who actually earn it.
ok, this finally confirmed that siskel doesnt know what he is talking about. tony montana boring..........wtf???? hes one of the most carefully crafted, emblematic, interesting, entertaining characters in movie history. Hes a tough, streetwise individual with an unwaivaring determination to accomplish greatness. that may not sound very original, but its the way his character goes about this that makes his character so great.
scarface was just hirrible every character was completly flat... the scribt was a joke and the movie was constantly trying to make me care for a very dumb selfish junkie
pachino was the main focus in the movie there warnt really any scenes without him the movie was very simple and streight forward
i dont really belive that any other character had a time to shine you only saw then interacting with montana so yeah in a way but there could have been something behind the scenes
'It's more interesting when a guy is good at the beginning and then becomes bad at the end." ---Bit of dialogue from their conversation here
I couldn't agree more. That's why to me historical characters like Benedict Arnold are often more fascinating than, say, Abraham Lincoln or (the other extreme) Joseph Stalin.
Disney wasn't doing too good at this time. Most of their releases of this era were flops ! They were even making alot of PG rated movies then. They didn't really have another hit again until six years in the future with The Little Mermaid.
@vmo87 Sly might have been interesting in the Steven Bauer role, that would have been a more powerhouse tandem with Pacino, but I don't think Stallone has ever played a foreigner.
haha i can't believe ppl actually thought that I was making a serious statement about Sly being better then Pacino ......Pacino is one my all time fav actor guys......I guess its difficult to sell sarcasm on the internet
I think that Siskel and Ebert aren't giving a fair review of "Mickey's Christmas Carol". They're judging it based on what it could've been and not what it is. Sure it doesn't present "Mickey's version" of the classic tale, but overall it's a cute adaptation that will satisfy Disney fans regardless of how the story is presented.
I don't agree AT ALL with Siskel.You can't even compare Scarface with The Godfather.Scarface-''a bad guy that is worse at the end'' plus Tony is a street thug.The Godfather-a story about Mafia wars.Can't even compare those movies
The only bad thing about Mickey's Christmas Carol is that 2 film critics Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert are the only major film critics in America who did not recommend Mickey's Christmas Carol(1983).
Scarface is one of my favourites. I think one can easily be turned off by all the violence and swearing, but I disagree with Siskel and his views that Tony Montana is a boring character.
I saw Scarface in the theatres in 1983...and though I thought it was "worth seeing," I really didn't l ike it that much.
It was until 3 or 4 years later--after seeing it on video a few times--that I realized how good it was. It had a lot more violence and profanity than movies generally had back then, and I think that a lot of people couldn't really "see" the movie through that. Back then, IMO, it took a few viewings for many people to come to appreciate it.
Oh please what are you some christian fanatic. Anybody who uses the kind of violence shown in horror movies doesnt do it because of what they saw, they do it because their psychologically disturbed.
Boy was Siskel wrong about Scarface. The cult status of Scarface has grown ever since it's release and hasn't stopped yet.
Pacino's great, the music is superb 80's stuff, the colors are flashy and 80's too and the cinematography is (at some points) of the highest level. Can't wait for this to appear on Blu Ray.
i dont understand what all the fuss was about with the violence in scarface. All the horror films at the time where much much much worse than anything in the film. At least scarface was entertaining.
I thought the music fit in with the time its from, sure its a bit dated but it so adds the theme of 80s decadence. I also like the very moody main theme and think it serves the movie much better than a orchestral theme ever would. Although I have to say that there are much better films out there.
your an idiot the music is great,the acting is great for the most part especially pacino and loggia.its finally getting the attention and praise it deserved and there are far far more violent movies
How dare Siskel give thumbs down to Mickey's Christmas Carol! Sure it's not great, but it's still a decent Disney classic even if Mickey wasn't in the movie much.
I'm not board with Siskel I think Pacino isn't boring I just think the movie is a 1 trick pony, guy makes money guy dies, watch him spend the money. (POINTLESS) the performance is the only thing that makes Scarface memorable, pretty simple, at least for my taste but I don't knock people that like it I just happen to not. I might watch it if it were on TV but probably never ever buy it. Carrie rips off Psycho and Deliverance. De Palma is a hack with the fortune of good casting always.
shame on you. you watched that movie just because kids your age like it and admire it for all the WRONG reasons. It's not the greatest,but among them.Watch it again and pay attention to the soundtrack,cinematography and acting
i think brain de palma is bad director but i have to admit scarface was very powerful it also contained lots of style which is de palmas specialty. his only specialty. it was a great movie though. certainly de palmas best
@8:49 HAHA, what confidence, ahh Gene, you were so terrific.
hockeyissick17 1 month ago
Siskel disliked Scarface and Pacino's performance? Wow. Just wow.
blinkzone1 1 month ago
This clip makes me miss Gene Siskel.
TechnicolorSpectrum 2 months ago
Scarface is one of the bets movies ever, disagree totally with Siskel here. Showing evil is interesting in itself, everybody is fascinated why some people are like this in the world.
Megapolable 2 months ago
Boy I have to admit Siskel was kinda douchey in the 80's.
Tron239 6 months ago
Siskel and Ebert's two thumbs down for Mickey's Christmas Carol is a classic disconnect between their points-of-view and my point-of-view. I guess I'm unfairly biased by the fact that I saw this many times as a child around Christmastime, and that it holds a certain sentimental value to me despite the fact that it may do absolutely nothing for such seasoned movie critics as Siskel and Ebert. Looking at how they review it, though, I can agree with them on some of the negative aspects of it.
jw870206 7 months ago
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siskel... why you must be wrong?
JeffysPlayhouse 8 months ago
How does someone get their own TV show when they can't even grasp the basic point of Scarface? He's "boring" because his life and morals are empty because all he cares about is himself. The one time in the movie his character is dynamic is when he refuses to kill the family. Ironically, that leads to his downfall. I don't see how Siskel could've missed that.
Ichiboy900 9 months ago
There are real problems with scarface....terrible accents, crappy cinematography, annoying over blown music...but siskel's criticism was retarded. What's interesting in this movie is that tony's one virtuous act leads to his downfall.
ebandd 10 months ago
siskle said scarface was boring that yentl movie was the real snooze here fuck this guy
mannygatillo 10 months ago
Ebert should of have bitched slapped Siskel for dogging Scarface.
mccarrpo 10 months ago
Ebert is actually totally right this time. why do characters in movies have to be redeemable? the point is that you can build an empire out of shit, but in the end, its still shit!
NotNamedJones 11 months ago
@NotNamedJones
And boy does Charles Ferguson's Inside Job ram that truth home! I think Chris Hitchens puts it most succinctly when he says there's a real difference between those who just make money, and those who actually earn it.
TheConciseStatement 8 months ago
wow now i know when siskel started making no sense. My personal fafourite is his rewiev of jurassic park lost world
f8j3jn 1 year ago
FUCK Siskel. He is a CAWK sucker! How DARE he give a thumbs down Christmas Carol! It's 25 minutes! You dumb prick! Holy shit. What a chode.
TheDVDReview 1 year ago
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Undoubtedly the most hilarious spelling of 'cock' I've ever seen. Bravo.
TheConciseStatement 8 months ago
ok, this finally confirmed that siskel doesnt know what he is talking about. tony montana boring..........wtf???? hes one of the most carefully crafted, emblematic, interesting, entertaining characters in movie history. Hes a tough, streetwise individual with an unwaivaring determination to accomplish greatness. that may not sound very original, but its the way his character goes about this that makes his character so great.
tonyss9 1 year ago
Ebert talks about Mickey at 5:50 Hilarius
docwho97 1 year ago
Pacino himself felt Scarface was his best
scottmanduzy 1 year ago
"The established drug dealing establishment"
LOL, nice roger.
GlengarryGlennBeck 1 year ago 3
He bashes scarface and smiles turns his head and starts talking about mickey mouse like he was waiting all day to do it.
chrisflorida85 1 year ago 3
Hooowaaahh!!
chairmanofthebored1 1 year ago
Funny enough, they're both right. That said, I liked Scarface.
fireflyfan1 1 year ago
I love the way Ebert says so what
landosalemchainsaw 1 year ago
scarface was just hirrible every character was completly flat... the scribt was a joke and the movie was constantly trying to make me care for a very dumb selfish junkie
cant really see why peoble like it so much
thesatanic6 1 year ago
@thesatanic6 . i disagree that every character was "flat".
SparksDrinker 1 year ago
@SparksDrinker
when i say flat i mean 2 sided and pachino said it himself that he was trying to make tony like that
thesatanic6 1 year ago
@thesatanic6 . but you said that EVERY character was flat. do you really believe that?
SparksDrinker 1 year ago
@SparksDrinker
pachino was the main focus in the movie there warnt really any scenes without him the movie was very simple and streight forward
i dont really belive that any other character had a time to shine you only saw then interacting with montana so yeah in a way but there could have been something behind the scenes
thesatanic6 1 year ago
@thesatanic6 Hirrible? Is that a combo of terrible and horrible?
lloydduggan92 11 months ago
I agree with Ebert all the way.
Ges0 1 year ago
SAY HELLO TO MY little friend
10duce 1 year ago
Michelle Pfeiffer play a total boring chick in Scarface. Who the hell would marry her? Skinny doll who couldn´t smile.
drumtum 1 year ago
Oh Siskel...so wrong, so many times. It's a great story, with a great main character.
bernlin2000 1 year ago
May I just say, I REALLY love it when they argue.
manlyman80345 1 year ago 2
'It's more interesting when a guy is good at the beginning and then becomes bad at the end." ---Bit of dialogue from their conversation here
I couldn't agree more. That's why to me historical characters like Benedict Arnold are often more fascinating than, say, Abraham Lincoln or (the other extreme) Joseph Stalin.
danning1 1 year ago
Man, Siskel's a douche. Gave Mickey's Christmas Carol a thumbs down! WTF?!
F1315NJ 1 year ago
@F1315NJ and ferris bueller's day off
hahapirate 1 year ago
@F1315NJ I'll bet he didn't even hold back tears during the Tiny Tim death scene. I always do.
dmc97ingc 1 year ago
Pacino was born to be Scarface !
TigerOfArkan 1 year ago
How in God's name is Scarface not available on Blu Ray? According to Wikipedia, Universal doesn't even have any plan to release it on Blu Ray.
Quadzilla99 1 year ago
Why don't Disney create a Mickey movie today?
deepvoodoo 1 year ago
Disney wasn't doing too good at this time. Most of their releases of this era were flops ! They were even making alot of PG rated movies then. They didn't really have another hit again until six years in the future with The Little Mermaid.
Skulldini 1 year ago
" The MPAA wanted to rate this movie X because of the violence " .. Hell, wasn't it the same story with The Wild Bunch 15 years earlier ?
Skulldini 1 year ago
Good Movie or Bad Movie, Scarfase from 1983 is now part of Cinema History!
THX1205 1 year ago
Why did Dad make me watch a Disney Christmas Carole every damn Christmas?
YesWeCantaloupe 2 years ago
Scarface was incredibly entertaining. What the hell was Siskel talking about?
stimpp 2 years ago
Gene Siskel's face at 10:36 is classic. I agree with Roger Ebert on it. I think Scarface is a great movie.
eightySeventh 2 years ago 2
Scarface is a Classic..I love this movie
AllianceCrusha 2 years ago
How the fuck can he compare Scarface with The Godfather??? Comparing them just because they are in the same genre is ridiculous...
DeathWarrant90 2 years ago
They both have Pacino and they're both incredibly popular so comparisons are inevitable
WatchMyAwesomeVideos 2 years ago
@DeathWarrant90 The Godfather was a serious, restrained, realistic film, with terrific direction and cinematography.
Scarface was an over the top cartoon, with stereotyped, ham-fisted performances, muddled direction,
and juvenille dialogue.
And let's face it, you can't compare Loggia to Brando, and Bauer to Caan.
wheelinthesky300 2 years ago
@wheelinthesky300 well, then I'd like to mention Sergio Leone's Once Upon A Time In America..which I find better than the Godfather-movies
DeathWarrant90 5 months ago
@DeathWarrant90 Spot on! Once Upon a Time in America is one of the best in History!
Megapolable 2 months ago
Scarface would have been nothing w/out Pacino
jeff98211 2 years ago 21
I totally agree! Another actor playing Tony Montana would never work!
DeathWarrant90 2 years ago 9
Sylvester Stallone would have done a better job
vmo87 2 years ago
@vmo87 Sly might have been interesting in the Steven Bauer role, that would have been a more powerhouse tandem with Pacino, but I don't think Stallone has ever played a foreigner.
wheelinthesky300 2 years ago
haha i can't believe ppl actually thought that I was making a serious statement about Sly being better then Pacino ......Pacino is one my all time fav actor guys......I guess its difficult to sell sarcasm on the internet
vmo87 2 years ago
@vmo87 You forgot to lol on your 1st statement which explains why your punchline didn't make a KO.
-R78
Rodimus78 1 year ago
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Fuck them talking bad about Mickey I am glad one is dead and the other one almost is FUCK THEM!
Sourpiemun 2 years ago
I think that Siskel and Ebert aren't giving a fair review of "Mickey's Christmas Carol". They're judging it based on what it could've been and not what it is. Sure it doesn't present "Mickey's version" of the classic tale, but overall it's a cute adaptation that will satisfy Disney fans regardless of how the story is presented.
supervehicle 2 years ago
it was before the word remake invented.
Carthsting 2 years ago
I loved Mickey's Christmas Carol as a kid. Scrooge McDuck is awesome!
allnaturalhemp 2 years ago
how DARE these two shun Mickey!
hackensac 2 years ago 2
Ebert was practically alone among mainstream critics in his appreciation of Scarface. Time has proven him right.
allnaturalhemp 2 years ago
Mickey's Christmas Carol deserved the thumb down... to sad for kids
ezesaw 2 years ago
I disagree, Mickey's Christmas Carol is very uplifting in the end. I had a very low tolerance for sad or scary as a kid and I liked it then.
animagusurreal 2 years ago 3
there's alot of "children's" material that is sad
hackensac 2 years ago
I thought this movie was good though now overrated. I thought both of them were going to hate the film. I guess I was half right.
sleezboy 2 years ago
I don't agree AT ALL with Siskel.You can't even compare Scarface with The Godfather.Scarface-''a bad guy that is worse at the end'' plus Tony is a street thug.The Godfather-a story about Mafia wars.Can't even compare those movies
TatooineBoy 2 years ago
The only bad thing about Mickey's Christmas Carol is that 2 film critics Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert are the only major film critics in America who did not recommend Mickey's Christmas Carol(1983).
wswfootball19 2 years ago
Well... It was a terrible film.
IamConnorMacLeod 2 years ago
Yesh , I never knew these guys hated Mickey's Christmas Carol that much.
CanadianRanger17 2 years ago
Scarface is one of my favourites. I think one can easily be turned off by all the violence and swearing, but I disagree with Siskel and his views that Tony Montana is a boring character.
flobsterlobster 2 years ago 3
siskel is an ass
xxsoundofsilencexxx 2 years ago
I saw Scarface in the theatres in 1983...and though I thought it was "worth seeing," I really didn't l ike it that much.
It was until 3 or 4 years later--after seeing it on video a few times--that I realized how good it was. It had a lot more violence and profanity than movies generally had back then, and I think that a lot of people couldn't really "see" the movie through that. Back then, IMO, it took a few viewings for many people to come to appreciate it.
GetMeThere1 2 years ago
Oh please what are you some christian fanatic. Anybody who uses the kind of violence shown in horror movies doesnt do it because of what they saw, they do it because their psychologically disturbed.
xcb15 2 years ago
Cult Classic!
degree7 2 years ago
Boy was Siskel wrong about Scarface. The cult status of Scarface has grown ever since it's release and hasn't stopped yet.
Pacino's great, the music is superb 80's stuff, the colors are flashy and 80's too and the cinematography is (at some points) of the highest level. Can't wait for this to appear on Blu Ray.
SKrizal 2 years ago 4
I don't blame him for hating it. It's challenging but it's is a good movie although not for all tastes but a solid film nonetheless.
SeanConnery9000 2 years ago
i dont understand what all the fuss was about with the violence in scarface. All the horror films at the time where much much much worse than anything in the film. At least scarface was entertaining.
xcb15 2 years ago
Scarface is very much overrated. The music is laughably bad, and aside from Pacino, the acting is weak.
DirkDiggler1102 2 years ago
I thought the music fit in with the time its from, sure its a bit dated but it so adds the theme of 80s decadence. I also like the very moody main theme and think it serves the movie much better than a orchestral theme ever would. Although I have to say that there are much better films out there.
almanacofsleep 2 years ago 2
your an idiot the music is great,the acting is great for the most part especially pacino and loggia.its finally getting the attention and praise it deserved and there are far far more violent movies
eddyc09 2 years ago
How dare Siskel give thumbs down to Mickey's Christmas Carol! Sure it's not great, but it's still a decent Disney classic even if Mickey wasn't in the movie much.
Headbanger142 2 years ago
I'm not board with Siskel I think Pacino isn't boring I just think the movie is a 1 trick pony, guy makes money guy dies, watch him spend the money. (POINTLESS) the performance is the only thing that makes Scarface memorable, pretty simple, at least for my taste but I don't knock people that like it I just happen to not. I might watch it if it were on TV but probably never ever buy it. Carrie rips off Psycho and Deliverance. De Palma is a hack with the fortune of good casting always.
KronantheBarbarian 2 years ago
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god liked all the movies that siskel hates henceforth he died lol
JerseySlugga85 2 years ago
i think i must be the only guy my age who doesn't think scareface is the greatest film of all time. It's an ok film with great quotable lines.
woollybully100 2 years ago 3
shame on you. you watched that movie just because kids your age like it and admire it for all the WRONG reasons. It's not the greatest,but among them.Watch it again and pay attention to the soundtrack,cinematography and acting
yellowwasp09 2 years ago
i have seen it and it's just an ok film.
woollybully100 2 years ago
i think brain de palma is bad director but i have to admit scarface was very powerful it also contained lots of style which is de palmas specialty. his only specialty. it was a great movie though. certainly de palmas best
Lunar0Strain 2 years ago
this and the untoachables are his only really "great" films... imo
juliuswhiteman 2 years ago 2
Pacino´s hammy as hell in SCARFACE...that does not mean his performance is very FUN to watch it, though.
diuga1 2 years ago
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smalltalentforwar 2 years ago
Ummm, does Ebert know that Scrooge McDuck is the star of the movie and NOT Donald Duck???
duke767676 3 years ago
I'm with Siskel on this one, Pacino's acting in this is on a level of Faye Dunaway in Mommie Dearest.However, The Godfather is an awesome movie.
ertznay 3 years ago