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  • @Harseisis

    Strike for the Chapter, and the Inqusition!

  • FFUCKING MATT WARD, HES NERFING ANY CODEX HE TOUCHES (fucking cron wariiors with a 4+ save) SO THE ULTRASMURFS COME OUT ON TOP

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU­UUUUUUUUU

    when a space marine bleeds, he bleeds cheese

  • Why are space marines great?..BECAUSE THEY LEAVE NOTHING ON THE BATTLEFIELD BUT ROTTING ENEMY CORPSES WITH BOLTER SHELLS IN THEY DEAD CARCASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I don't hate them.... i just don't like them because everyone thinks they rock. Any way i play grey knights let my leader yell at you DIE IN A HOLE OF FILTH

  • now one for sawn of war 2

  • I'd like to see those space marines try and outshoot the Tau

    FOR THE GREATER GOOD!

  • That Eldar farseer would bum rape that Astartes commander just with her mind. The Traitor Legionnaires are far far better, 10 thousand years of experience and powers from chaos gods make them the best warriors in the galaxy.

  • @OWTS1885

    Unless they end up as chaos spawn.

    It is completely random whether an aspiring chaos champion ends up as a daemon prince or as mindless chaos spawn, or just killed by a rival war band.

    The power of chaos is completely random. And cooperation between war bands requires a very rare, powerful leader. Chaos is just as much at war with Chaos as they are with everything else.

  • @Washu1973 comically missing the point.

  • @ewok531 same as me, i love tha marines but i play as IG bcuz IIG rox en SM too, together they are ass whoopin, asault drop pod combined with BB and tank shit and inf spam they are the most powerfull army DIE ELDAR FAGGETZ

  • you can tell this is modded :/

  • @ewok531 I play soulstorm and IG is retardedly overpowered. entirely immune to early rushes and their every single unit with the exception of ogryns and chimeras are incredibly overpowered (INCLUDING GUARDSMEN whose grenades absolutely RAPE infantry in tier 1). other autowin races for faggots are eldar, tau and necron (these are an absolute nightmare to fight against). other factions usually have some very strong units but not the majority of them - except dark eldars who suck entirely.

  • I look down on such vdieos that "OVER Glorify"one certain race (I de rather say faction),Space Marines ain't weak,But I HATE factions that are over powerful like the Necrons,Pariahs are totally awful,something wrong with the producer?I like Imperial Guards but the damn producer??What the hell?From the first look,they are like weakening the Imperial Guards any way possible and making Necron strong with those tough units and many many upgrades.

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  • as the others say the space marines are one of the best forces in the game

  • ......and chaos fucks you all! Death to the loyalist scum!

  • richtig verprügelt^^

  • I like the Astartes, as long as they don't fight against the Imperial Guard!!! Sadly it was the case in Dark Crusade and Soulstorm, so I hate only Avitus, the Devastor-Sergeant! (the rest of the Blood Ravens chapter is all right)

  • Just to point this out and not saying Space marines suck... I play them.

    I think that Elf Commander would've won if he used alot more of his Abilitys.

    im not sure seeing how i dont play that much anymore.

  • Eldar baseball looks fun

  • over sized shoulder pads = ghey

  • its called power armor -_-

  • Quite frankly I think the Eldar are the weakest

  • Tell you what, say that when you've just been charged by Jain Zar and 10 Howling Banshees. They are weak in DOW simply because a lot of available units are missing.

  • lol funny but eldar still more pwnage lol!!

  • the one eldar left was probably think "oh, fuck what did i get myself into

  • 2 vs 1 noob:P

  • the best combo you can do in game is 5 tactial squads 2 all heavy bolters 2 all missile launchers and on all plama 2 assult squads 2 predators and bits and peices as required

  • i love space marines (also orks but SM more) they are like a freaken one man army!!!! CHAOS OR NO CHAOS!

  • lol Finish music

  • do wou want a fight? force commander versus CHAOS LORD. if both are at 100% health, the chaos lord will kill the SM. (but he would also be pretty fucked up lol)

  • space marines are the best but and others races are good.(dark eldar player here)

  • nothing about this vid made me hate marines it just made me proude to be a player ( rapeing the eldar fags)

  • man my faverot is the devistor squed they rock

  • the numbers never win the battles...look at the space marines...there is a good phrase... give me 100 space marines and if they fail give me 10.000 of any other army

  • ok this is bs first of all im a space marine lover myself but to post worthless propaganda like this is wrong one commander can do this all by himself.also in a real game(not a scripted one like this) the farseer will last longer. so dont believe this vid.SPACE MARINES ARE THE BEST RACE I HAVE CONTROLLED. so u cant say i hate them, just want a fair balanced look on both races :P

  • well to be honest any member of the space wolf "Wolf Gaurd" would be able to do that for god sake its eldar and gaurdians are rubbish in close combat

    no offence fello Eldar players i am also on and from many games i can honestly say they are rubbish in close combat thats excluding "Striking Scorpions" "Howling Banshees" and probaly loads more:)

  • lol,evry race can be strong.there is strength in numbers

  • now see in the warhammer books the eldar are our allies so i'm confused

  • Eldar are fickle, sometimes they would ally with us but then they might attack.

    its stuff to do with farseers if they see in a vision that working with us and not blazing us will result in preserving more eldar they will.

  • thats true

  • personaly i like the chaos Marines. now i did start with Space Marines. But then i went to the dark side and joined the chaos.

    GIVE IN TO THE POWERS OF CHAOS

  • lol emperors lovers you dont now the true power of the necrons, Trefalas is right stop bing so stupid is just a game dosent mather if is space marine are better they have a weakness (they unist are slow to replinish and they can be outnumber kiwcly), necrons are best in me opinion

  • Die to ALL xenos!!

  • love it weird this stuff up

  • Njaa, aik omanlainen... Tee sama DoW2 ja oot kova.

  • not for spacemarine fans but for stupid spaceidiots, - go learn how to communicate and stop that childish stupid flameing on other peoples opinions. - u guys make games boring

  • if you fight for the Emperium how about add me on steam my name is beevaz or you could add my group and i will add you its called Death To The Heretic we will be getting servers soon on many games

  • Personally, I'm an Imperial Guardsman but I'd feel good enough havin' these guys on my side.

    Great vid (:

    FOR THE EMPEROR!

  • space marines are decent in terms of raw power, the problem about them is that they arent cool enof - necrons look awesome, orks have squiggoth and mad dok, chaos have possesed marines, what do space marines have? g(r)ay knights

    nice music though

  • Space marines have power armor, all sorts of weapons & vehicles, are tough a nails, "And they shall know no fear" rule, psykers, medics, standard bearers, The Emperor's Champion, drop pod assult, and can field a kick ass army with a  higher overall hit, wound & kill percentage, and battle field survivebilaty percentage than any other army.

  • from what you say it sounds like the only interesting thing about them is that they are lameassly overpowered. I prefer style and unique appearance to raw power.

    anyway, you were talking about tabletop, right? in soulstorm space marines sure are strong, but not exactly imbalanced. they would be raped by eldar or tau for example.

  • On the tabletop, I wouldn't say Space Marines are overpowered; they're just the most noob friendly... they can dabble in a bit of every playstyle... The more specialised armies, if commanded correctly, and with luck, can beat Space Marines.

  • Suffer not the alien to live!! ooh rah!

  • @jasongcoleman i think this would go with surviability but there epic amor saves, AND there tanks X)

  • @jasongcoleman C-H-A-O-S

    they have just about the same stuff and more...

  • marneus calgar: the greatest space marine ever. (you try taking him on in combat with Ghazghkull Thraka and see how it turns out. Drop pods: smacks marines right up your butt. Dreadnoughts: the most feared Walker (non monstorous creature) in the 40k game. Oh, and one more thing: what the heck can be cooler than ten Terminators taking out three enemy tanks, eliminating 2 enemy squads outright, and living the game with 1 casualty? Um think about that again.

  • HAIL THE EMPRAH!!!!!!!!!!

    Kill the mutant

    burn the heretic

    purge the unclean!!1!!1111!!!!

    The Emperor protects. I am yours to command, my most holy majesty, god-Emperor of mankind. My only light in the dark, my only hope in the desperation.

  • for the emperor brother!

  • All Seers FEAR THE EMPEROR'S WRATH!

  • Space marines will wipe the floor with anyone who dares attack them

  • Dont waste time with this Xeno SCUM! Get ready for the Greenskins. Or for the undead Necrons.

  • yeah fuck pussy eldar, fight a real enemy like the necron....

    Still praise the emperor.....all day

  • awesome the video, im with nspace marines but i dont think the same man fought against all that eldars, look at his fist, it magically turn on a plasma pistol!!, its good to like somethin but not saying its always the best...

  • The Space Marines (In the PC version, at least - I'm too poor to get a tabletop army right now) are a perfect faction to start off as.

  • The gaurdian squads are civilians. That why there are the death squads. An the banshees an the warp spiders. An the wraithlords, how convenient the forget her mind war ability which takes a third of his life. Kill Kill Kill

  • hahaha you dont know the half of it! how about me and you face of in 40k my eldar vs ur space marines

  • The imperium is too merciful on the God emperors behalf any planet that is non imperial loyalist deserves an immediate exterminatus decree

  • oliguy5 is so right space marines are the greatest fighting force in the galaxy!!they know no fear!!they serve the immortal god emporer u till death!!

    ONWARD TO GLORY BROTHERS!

  • Agreed.

  • oh my pudding... worst song Ive ever heard xD

  • ...As a Space Marine Player, I would say stop wasting time shooting up Eldar and start shooting up real threats like: Necrons, Nids, and (especially) Chaos.

  • i love space marins but i love orks as enemy's

  • all armys are awsome if you use them right

  • Eldar aint weak.

    Just L2P :)

  • I don't understand this video. The reason those Marines are kicking ass in this video is because Eldar do not have the same combat techniques as Marines, like this video was showing... all armies are good if you use them good. Like your a moron if u send a horde of Orks into a LR fight with enemies, and equally an idiot sending in 2 guardian squads face to face against marine squads.

  • Read the title of it, its a reply to a video ''hate space marines'' it's not some super tactics or anything its just purely for a reason to make space marines look awesome, and it kinda does what it says since the dude who made the ''hate space marines'' video didn't wana add to video responces cause this one is a lot better.

  • Space marines are the best! Eldar is som damn pussies they teleport to many places and make their buildings invinsible, they are so fuckin weak

  • knoxymcknox your comment is incorrect read up on space marine novels and see that the tau dude with railgun would get pwned very quickly :D

  • The eldar are weak shit, gg fireprism, they are like bugs when you think you stomped out their base they have some shitty cloaked resource outpost left.

  • Yeah, they're weak, but you have to really use tactics to be good as them.

    Not charge in like the dumbshit you are.

  • your assumption that I am a space marine fan is mistaken. my 40k army is actually imperial guard so dont talk tactics with me, all you probably know is dawn of war which hardly constitutes warhammer tactics. With imperial guard you never attack the front you bombard them with basilisk artillery until they begin to move. Then as they are relocating and or rushing you crush them with the leman russ and overwhelming infantry. I would put my imperial guard army up against any eldar on the table top.

  • Actually, I have warhammer armies from the Fantasy and Lord of the Rings ranges.

    True, I don't have a 40k army, but I still know my way around my tactics.

  • im a HUGE space marine fan!

  • im a fan of space marines and chaos space marines but i like space marines better SPACE MARINES PWN!!!!!

  • i have nothing wrong with space marines there alright nothing bad about them

  • Death to all you xenos lovers!!!! Space Marines are gene-modified for war! Plus they wear blessed suits of power armor, and have Emperor's blesssing! Thats what they live for nothing else! Remember Space Marines know no fear! For the primachs, for the Emperor!!! Burn the heretic, Kill the mutant, Purge the unclean!!!

  • actually all this arrogance and hate on youtube is pretty sickening.There is no 'best race', only better and worser players and different visual and cultural(?) tastes

  • wow, a very vengeful re.I'm a marine fan too, but mind u I like the eldar better than the ugly orks and demented chaos and the ugly and scrawny necrons.

  • Who cares, its still a fun video.

  • Ultimately when it all comes down to it, if you look at the history in the 40K books and read how big they are the 'Nids will rule, total ownage.

  • Wow, you can defeat the Eldar as Space Marines in direct combat, big whoop, the Eldar aren't supposed to go toe to toe with heavier enemies, you may as well pit a sloth versus a time bomb set for 1 hour. XD

  • if space marines were real, the dead ones would be turning in their grave over this video...

  • Chaos over all!

  • is that y chaos marines run away all he time wen they think there going to die?

  • Just like ever race.. right?

  • Eldar are wimps compared to the mighty space marines.

  • Tau make Space Marines eat railgun to the face :D

  • love the song (from where blood escapes) /,,/_

  • the music in the background was "uncool"

  • dude she gives you 30 crap troops to fight and you give a caplin and a libaren to fight hows that fair no wonder she lost

  • "Run you pussy Xeno scum.!"

    Rofl

  • for the emperor !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Space Marines = goodies & strongest units Orks = Funny & Rude Chaos = Crazy & Powerfull Edar = Unbalanced & Humanoids ( :( )

  • Space Marines are the best. The shining Angels of Death, who walk upon the battlefield bringing death to the enemies of our glorious emperor.

    Die traitors and xeno scum.

    PS: Why do you use the word gay so often. Is there someone who has to hide something^^

  • why do the eldar sound like teens

  • WHY DO ELDAR SOUND AND LOOK LIKE GAYS ???

    thats the big question x / + their rifles looks like dildoes x( may the necron c'tan star god consume their souls

  • Worst Eldar player ever.

  • space marines suck dick. and anybody can beat eldar. they are weak ass pussies! the mere BIRTH of the mighty chaos god slaanesh destroyed their empire and forced them to a life of exile. and each dead eldar soul is fed to him.

    chaos is the true power! FOR THE DARK GODS!

  • eldar looks so fucking gay their weak! necrons fucking pwn those gay lords! eldar are rated P for pussies!

  • if chaos are so strong why did the get there littlle arses kicked in the horus heresy

  • obviously you dont know shit, chaos massacred the space marines in the horus heresy, the only reason we lost is because horus was killed when a guard walked in and horus turned around and your little "emperor" the pussy he is stabbed horus while he wasnt looking. they killed almost half the space marine's primarchs and all but destroyed three of your legions, now the iron hands, slamanders, and raven guard are reduced to shit. and while chaos numbers grow at an exponetial rate. convert, fool.

  • don't matter mate because games workshop are ending chaos don't believe me google it they are gonna end up as feasts to the c'tan

    ha the recession hits hard

  • yeh i heard there stopping chaos because money and there not used much but you did not mention the c'tan will gain 2 more gods that anilihate the chaos gods but the c'tan created chaos gods anyway exept slaanesh so its fitting that they end them

  • i searched for about an hour and didnt find anything about chaos ending. stop being retarded, nothing can defeat chaos because the eye of terror is a 100% garauntee of death to anyone who attempts to attack it or enter it unless they are followers of chaos. and as for destroying the warp, that isnt possible and the immaterium is much more powerful than the materium.

  • your right i convert lol

  • Link/Picture or it didnt happen.

  • Lol say it in the future tense remember, it hasn't happened yet ;)

  • great video, eldar scum!!

  • This video is so full of fail its hilarious.

  • oh...c'mon you put guardians fight with the sp marines (plasma guns upgraded ) /:) ?

    the farseer's power is not the close combat . he is good with spells and with massed infantry...ohh another : Force Comander Upgraded with plasma gun and deamon hammer against Guardians.

    I don't say they are weak. No race is weak , only the players are weak. If they don know how to play a race they say it's weak. All races have pluses and minuses. For any unit/upgrade there is an contra-unit/upgrade.

  • The Eldar are probably controlled by another player and you didn't let farseer fight in the first big fight so theyw were at disadvantage and guardians suck anyway.

    The only thing you have proved is that Space Marines can kill a few Eldar, not hard.

    And that they think killing THEM makes them betteer than everyone else which aint true.

  • SPESS MEHREENS!

  • wow no Deamon Hammer Q.Q

  • great video man!

  • Exactly, finally someone who is experienced with wh40k fluff.

    I salute you

  • SPESS MEHRENS!

  • The Warp is a ocean where immaterial predators cower around the souls of mortals, ever waiting for the soul to be able to be fed upon. The fact that mortal's can, but DON'T look into the Warp is because of the Imperial propaganda in 40k. It is against the Emperor's faith to go and search the Warp, unless they are either trained or guided by another being. For example, Librariens are just Mortals who have been granted permission to dive into the Warp and gained the stuff of the Warp they need.

  • O' Well chaplains > Liberians

  • if the spacemarines fight chaos i think

    chaos wood win go chaos

    blood for the blood god

    that is the way to hall

  • Yes space marines is cool,really i like Tau better

  • YES speace marine rules the galaxy!!!!!!

  • space marines r over pointed in 40k which is y they suk. in AOBR the space marines are a lot higher in points than the orks and the orks could still kick their asses but marines r smarter

  • the tau do not exist in the warp, and are probably the only "clean" race if you take clean to mean untouched by chaos.However, humanity is the only one that see's chaos as the main threat, for all the mis-guided fools that see it as an easy way to power (and it is easy, just usually very brief and painful.. the lucky few retain their gifts, souls and life, the rest lose all.)

  • There's no need to go around calling names people, it's very simple: The gods of chaos DO respond to human subconscious's and much of the litriture suggests that khorne, nurgle and tzneetch are humanity's creations, true. But the eldar are responsible for slannesh.

    Orks are (or were, havn't read their codex's for a while) quite warp-sensitive and are probably in part responsibl;e for khorne.

  • Thats how WH 40k has made its money, by keeping every1 in suspense.Point fingers all day, I dont care BUT Anyone who says Honor Courage and etc. is bullshit, Look what we Americans did to afgan and Iraq. Im not saying were saints. But Honor laid a hell of a beat down. Marines of any nation can say this, Were as close as it gets to a space marine.

    "Those who have fallen will be remebered as the Emperors finest"

  • Continuing what I was saying, CSM Are the greatest threats posed to manin the modern day "Terrorist" (although a gorgeous 5.56 round from my M16 A4 proves that every problem can be solved with violence) and the alien forces the national treats posed replicating some of the worlds strongest nations. Orks= Russians Eldar=Oriental Necrons even = Arabic Nations. It of course is all based off of Britain, where I assume the founders are from? You wanna know 40k is in a stalemate? reality hasnt ended

  • Space Marines = Gay!

  • absolutely!

  • everyone knows space marines are just nazis bent on taking over galaxies.

    so how do we fight nazies with the wave of greenskins(russia)

    awesome elites and better chaos space marines (AMERICA)

  • Lol marines vs guardians!? Guardians r even weaker than guardsmen! Put the Space Marines in a fight vs other ennemies like chaos, repers, warp spiders, Fire warriors, Necron warriors or even DE Scourges lol. And what's that? The Farseer vs two people? Loooooool!

  • Space marines vs guardians, thats hardly a challenge, lets see you run to your emperor when the warp spiders and dark reapers arive, anyone can fabricate a winning scenario, why didnt you just Put 1 space marines vs 1 guardian, it would of been much quicker.

    And ffs WHERE IS THE MIND WAR

  • Impurity shall be our armour!

    Hate shall be our weapon!

    Immortality shall be our reward!

    -Chaos marine chant

    Your deaths will not be purely in vain. They will at least provide me with some amusement.

    - Kharak the Changeling

    Our hatred is fueled by a bitterness that has festered for ten thousand years.

    -Chaos marine chant

    I murdered thousands for the Emperor and he gave me nothing except his damning silence. Now his lapdogs yap for every life I take, while the gods promise me the galaxy.

  • "...In the time of ending, let all of our enemies marshal before us...for we shall be ready. Ready to either die to the last man, or take up the banner of the Imperium for yet more centuries...We are the sons of the Emperor and if it so be that the Imperium will crumble beneath us, we shall rebuild it anew. In this life, or the next."

    As long as Space Marines exist, man shall never be destroyed by Heretics like yourself.

  • we all know that eldar are crap cowards though so why prove that space marines are better than them

  • omg awsome

  • lol i love this game

  • Ha no balance anymore?

    Thats what she said, then came my Leman Russ Demolisher and Leman Russ team to stomp SM ass.

  • I want a rematch with the traitors aigant bloodravens

    DIE FALSE EMPEROR!!

  • Yes SM kick as but thats because there is no game balance anymore,GW just keep pimping space marines which fucks off none SM player,If a new race doesn't sell well the leave it to die off, like the dark eldar the deamon hunters, those poor old squats.Noboby actualy hates them it's the dick -heads that have them with all the cheesy options .. Basically nooobs, so eventually every fucker will do them and the game will die. But GW won't care because they'll be fucking minted

  • There is balance, space marines are overpowered for a reason, they lack super unit. And they r not even that much overpowered, the only imbalance about them i think is that dreadnoughts use up 2 cap instead of 4, but that's because you need them once your enemy builds their super unit. So they are actually very balanced,and whats wrong with dark eldar? They r probably most annoying race in hands of pro since they are very good at early game harassment, which can mean gg in first 5 mins.

  • Space Mariens!!!

    For the Emperor

  • whoa! this was so coool vid

  • what the last guy said space marine rules all!!

  • you can run away eldar bitch, but u will never hide from the Blood ravens!

  • gotta love space marines they are the toughest infantry unts in the game

  • "run you pussy xeno scum!!" haha i lol'd at that...good job SPACE MARINES FTW!!!

  • Chaos space marine pwn even harder!

    CSM fight in a far more brutal/dangerous environment then a SM could ever dream off and they have been doing it for 10k years, while the SM still die after 200 years of combat. How pathetic!

    CSM are the true bitter and hard warriors of wh40k and represents everything WH40K stands for "there is only war!".

    "Its the fate of the Space Marines to die unkown and the fate of the Chaos Space Marines to rule for eternity"

    Everything is pussy compared to the CSM!

  • Oh please...more rhetoric of the Ruinous Powers. Ever stop to think that even if you do win that you will be consumed by the very darkness and evil that you protect?

  • I could say the same thing about the rhetoric of the emperor, only ten times more harder.

    since when do CSM protect evil? They fight for their own very survival and pleasure. They want power, immortality, eternal slaughter. They forge own path and are no longer lackeys of anything. They can choose where other races cannot. They use chaos as a weapon in their arsenal. Consumed? Well if you have'nt noticed the CSM live already for 10k years, while sm only for a few hundred years? Pathetic!

  • The CSM play with far more dangerous power, fight far more often and are 10 times older then the oldest space marine (except for dreadnoughts) and still they manage to survive 10k years of battle where the SM miserably fail at.

  • What you say only looks good written down in reality Emperor killed Horus that was the only time Chaos were close to beating Space Marines and that's because it was civil war, after that Chaos launched 13 Dark Crusades but never succeeded, Space Marines > Chaos Space Marines.

  • First of all its a BLACK crusade.

    Secondly the oldest Space marine is 1204 years (dante). The bulk of the Chaos space marines already survived and battled for 10000 years in a far more hostile environment then the Space marines could ever dreamed of. Chaos space marines > Space marines

    Thirdly, A black crusade is nothing more then a attempt to improve your status with the dark gods. To recieve gifts and achieve even more glory. A black crusade fails mainly because of the behaviour of the CSM.

  • Next to that, SM need pitiful excuses and morale buffs to keep fighting. Like courage and honour etc.

    CSM are hard, bitter, extremely veteran warriors who do nothing else then to seek conflict, slaughter, make war, rise in power.

    They only care for war and after 10000 years they have become masters of warfare.

    The SM did nothing useful except for dying after a couple 100 years and are long forgotten.

    "It is the fate of the weak to die unknown and the fate of strong to rule for eternity!"

  • Yeh only in book, CSM always loose to SM, and oldest space marine would be emperor who lived over 10 000, he was a psychic before he ascended to godhood, also Horus was said to be strongest chaos space marine but he got completely obliterated with only one atack from the emperor. And just because they live longer doesn't make them better all that, infact oposite 50 year old SM is able to fight on par with 10k year old CSM, that says even more how chaos space marines are weaker then SM.

  • right, your logic does not seem to be quite right. And you lack wh40k knowledge.

    The horus heresy took place 10000 years back. The CSM codex states that the bulk of the CSM are the same traitors that turned on the emperor during the horus heresy. They still live to this very day. Thus the most basic Chaos marine = 10k years old. SM are only a few 100 years old.

    How can they have lost, while they are still alive?

  • Horus was a pawn used by the chaos gods. Just by using some corruption and using the imperiums' own troops they succeeded in bringing the imperium to its knees.

    Horus was still the Emperors' son and thus logically weaker. The Chaos gods exploited the emotional bond between horus and the emperor and used it to their advantage.

    Through some chaos enhancing Horus was capable of bringing down the emperor (and with the golden throne no longer fixable he will die) and the imperium to its knees