Dangers of Molecular Nanotechnology (MNT) Prt 2

[furyberserk]

Humans can eat insects.

A single insect provides more protein than a large steak.

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"I'm still not gonna eat a bug" - Humans are stupid :D

[hubbabubbarubbalubba]

This is extraordinary. Now people who say the human body is not a biological machine can go fuck themselves.

[Sir0Syler]

He speaks more like Michio Kaku except biology.

[shredhappy101]

So my comment is this..

[Wakazz]

Crazy Nigga. Im gonna show this to my Bio Prof.

[ExtantFrodo]

"the brain of the cell is the structure that controls the signals that tell the cell what to do in response to the environment"

Let's deconstruct this brouhaha. In brief his claim is gobbledygook. He's not saying that the protein's structure is the brain, because those are reacting to signals(not controlling them). The environment isn't the controller because that is contingent on circumstances.

In a different shape a protein can attach or not to a section of DNA mediating transcription..

[ExtantFrodo]

LOL, it's worse than I thought. The membrane? OH? what happened to photodetection? recognizing viral invaders? This guy has a sickness and I' gonna figure out what it is.

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - did u ever figure out what the problem u had with liptons work was?!

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing Yes, I've seen a lot more of his work since this. Like the devil he speaks mostly truth. He succumbed to total out and out lying in a weird attempt to reference support for his claim that genes can intentionally rewrite themselves to deal with specific molecular needs he cites a paper that absolutely does not support that ridiculous claim. It's one thing to know about the benefits of stress reduction. It's quite another to tell ppl they can rewrite their broken genes at will.

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - but he speaks from the quantum mechanics level, not the traditional science perspective.. and amazing things can be achieved through the mind and correct intention...most would not know if he was telling the truth, not being trained in such specifics of biology, but u sound like u have been, which is why i asked the question.. have u seen his 'Biology of Belief' lectures..?

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing It is that series to which I am referring. I think the uploaders name was ossarian.

You are wrong about him speaking from the QM level. The durability of memory and consciousness would not exist if it were subject to perpetual quantum flux. The cellular level neuronal signaling from which emerges our mind and consciousness operates WAY ABOVE the thermal noise level which is way above the quantum noise level. Don't fall for mystical pseudo science. Be skeptical about everything.

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing "amazing things can be achieved through the mind and correct intention"

No question. But just because we're talking about molecular mechanics does not mean the impossible suddenly becomes magically possible. There is SO MUCH that WILL seem magical when we have mature nanotech that I can hardly wait for the day we have tools to utilize it to the maximum. People SHOULD be studying molecular biology to understand what they want done to themselves (or not done) when that comes about

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - i dont think we will have much of a choice in the future, there will be a day when if u dont have a microchip in your brain wired to a centralized computer commanding your thoughts, u will be singled out and ostracized..

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing well, if you don''t want to be chipped you may want to think up a great reason to not be chipped and sell that for all it;s worth. Me? I hope to get a chip in my head for a number of reasons. I certainly won't opt for one that doesn't have my custom made pernally verified firewall installed. Would you?

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - why cant u think for yourself...?

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing it's not for thinking. It's for communication and ESP.

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - but u already have those abilities.. ! u are telepathic and have so many psychic abilities it is just a case of working on your chakras and clearing out the junk and reactivating dna strands.. if u gonna trust the govt to enhance your innate powers then good luck.. !

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing Who said anything about trusting the government?

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - where do u think the rfid chip is coming from?

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing Who said anything about RFID? I'm talking about BMI. Mental control of computers and machines and access to a vast array of sensors. Then there's mind to mind interface to consider...

Like I said I would not opt for this this unless I have control over the software that's running it. Only "open source" in my head. Who the fuck would want proprietary "corporate IP" with all their secret crap in there? That's like the fox guarding the hen house. Thanks, but no thanks.

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - Well im glad your not that crazy.. ! but still this technology is alien to the body system & takes away self responsibility.. it is still corruptable and prone to viruses.. shit they cant even get a word processing system to work properly and u think a piece of tech in yr head is gonna work...? BTW the govt already monitor every thing u do, they know more about u than u know about yourself..

Everything is already transparent, there is already a fox in yr hen house.

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing That's one reason why we need nanotech, to make it compatible. I don't get how it would take away from personal responsibility.

As for your "BTW", is it me or am i getting mixed messages from you?

What would the government need with RFID when bioscanning can tell them who you are and all that can be known about you is in the cloud?

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - Well i didnt say they monitored u through RFID.. seems u know how they do it..

all im saying is i dont trust this tech, what would u personally use this for? to operate computers & machinery, so life would be easier without having to press buttons.? basically they want a borg race of chipped humans totally zombified and controlled, without any say in the most basic of personal rights, devoid of privacy and any hint of a unique personality..

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing Oh it's much more than just not pushing buttons. Buttons don't give you full immersion feedback. Imagine being able to directly make motion pictures on a screen. It would be true parallel communication instead of this crappy limited serial verbal and written BS.

Borg? I guess some might go that route. I don't know that I would. I can see the privacy issue, but why do you presume you'd be controlled and would you not have a unique personality? These do not come default with BMI.

[SovereignBeing]

@ExtantFrodo - well it appears u are not aware of the NWO agenda..

which is behind release this technology.. they want a world where any dissenters or free thinkers, will either be chipped and controlled or eliminated.. so being a subversive, i dont think i would have a choice.. i wouldnt trust any foreign chip in the body, how ever personally adaptable or creative enhancing u think it appears to be.. but of course we have nano tech so will no doubt be done without our consent..

[ExtantFrodo]

@SovereignBeing Even if there are people who deem themselves part of "the NWO" their mindset is based on archaic, prenanotech mentality and economics. Almost everything set forth as their motive is rendered null and rather pointless in a post nanotech world. Expand your imagination as to how nanotech can be applied around every corner and every aspect of our world and social structure. Think about what YOU would like to have it do for you. It can probably be done.

[ExtantFrodo]

In fact there are free molecular modeling tools you can DL and start designing nanosystems today that you could implement the day nanotech assemblers become available. There's no NWO stopping you from making defenses against any offenses you can think of that they might implement. You might be the next "Norton Anti-virus" of the nanoworld. If you think the solution is going Luddite then you are sadly mistaken. Our destiny is the other direction. To the stars. Bringing life to the galaxy.

[ExtantFrodo]

which is the number one reason to get cracking with nanotech. Cheap personal spaceflight. Safe survival and maintenance in long term space habitation. Space, which affords abundance a billion billion billion times that of earth laughs at every war we have over resources. Laughs at the death we spew in this ridiculous effort to gain stupid crap that's available in such abundance.

[trakkaton]

@ExtantFrodo

Wow, you are making a LOT of mistakes. It's not "us" who are going to war. We are slaves that are oppressed, exploited and murdered by the terror regime that rules the planet. THEY are the ones who pay gov hackers who work against us with our money, and they jail dissident hackers who want to free us with our money. You are living in Lala-land, not reality. Reality is not some open, free market of advanced technology. It's a huge concentration camp. And intentionally so.

[majoraswrath132]

@SovereignBeing

I laugh at your argument.

[isamelbou]

This man understands biology but he is biased towards a specific answer. That is politics and not science.