I'm tripping through a bunch of contra and bass instruments right now on YouTube that I had no idea existed. Really enjoyed the tone and playing on this one. Well done!
Your right it's not a Contrabass Trombone. But your wrong on the rest of that, there are single slide F Contrabass Trombones and more importantly there are more than 3 in the world. in fact they are still making both Single Slide F Contrabass Trombones and the double slide Bb varieties
Depends what tuning of contrabass trombone you are referring to. There is F/Eb/Bb (double trigger = Ab) and Bb/F double slide design. The latter and the BBb Tuba are both constructed in 18' BBb, so I'd say both can go down to the fundamental pitch of E0 (7th position or 1-2-3).
About the Double Slide question. They did make a conn in circa 1902 with the double slides but have since developed the horn to a single slide. Very large horn though.
Although this piece is written for a Contrabass Trombone, it's being performed with a Bass Trombone. I too have a Bass Trombone and even with a typical Bass Trombone mouthpiece I can play with considerable power down to D1 (lower D on the piano) in the pedal register.
You've got your history backwards, the original insturment was a single slide with a handle to reach far enough. The Double Slide was invented in the late 1800s iirc, and has been the standard ever since. He is playing this on a regular Bass Trombone.
i am actually going to be performing this at my highschool this december, although i will be using a large bore tenor trombone. i have the range, but i admit, it is pretty low
Well, I'm not really trying to sound like a contrabass trombone. I'm just playing a piece written for contrabass trombone or tuba on bass trombone. The writing is generally lower than you would find for bass trombone, which I love. Some of the more demanding bass trombone solos are written in this register, and I wish more composers would write in the lower register for bass trombone. It gets a beautiful, full sound down there, and it is FUN to play low and loud!
Well, I'm not really trying to sound like a contrabass trombone. I'm just playing a piece written for contrabass trombone or tuba on bass trombone. The writing is generally lower than you would find for bass trombone, which I love. Some of the more demanding bass trombone solos are written in this register, and I wish more composers would write in the lower register for bass trombone. It gets a beautiful, full sound down there, and it is FUN to play low and loud!
Yes and no, for the most part they will naturally sound rather similar plus any skilled palyer can manipulate how they sound on their instrument a lot. As a Bass Trombone and Tuba player, I find playing my Bass Trombone with my Tuba mouthpiece seems to give a more Contrabass Trombone like sound to it, and lot more power down low.
I have done this more than I should probably admit to (usually with a Bach 25 and 18), but a contrabass trombone mp works MUCH better and actually sounds rather close to an F contra. My combo is a JK KBP2C (regular bass shank, was like 50 bucks from Dillon Music) and a Getzen 1062. I had a 2A for a while, but would not recommend it for a bass trombone. I am actually contra-shopping now; I think I will have to use an F tuba mp on IT to sound "proportionally correct" to my bass trombone... :)
I'm gonna venture the guess that the contrabass trombone mouthpieces have a smaller throat diameter (and maybe smaller rim to some extent) but are otherwise similar to Tuba mouthpieces.
Not quite. Contrabone mp's seem to top out at around 31mm (mine is 30mm) and have a slightly narrower rim than a similar similar size tuba mp. I don't know anything about any throat differences. Pick one up- you'll love it!
Ooo, that might be tough. There are a few low B naturals in the piece, and several Cs. If your valve tuning slide is long enough to pull all the way out for the Bs in flat 7th I suppose you could pull it off. It would be pretty tricky though.
I guess you've never heard of George Roberts! There certainly IS such a thing as a single-valve bass trombone, which is quite a different animal from a large bore tenor with an 'f' attachment.
i didnt know that they made a .562" bore, 10-in. bell tenor trombone.......modern bass trombones have two valves mine is a modern bass trombone its just an older model that has a single valve because bass trombones originally were pitched in 12' F so around the turn of the century they made bass trombones in Bb with an F valve to make them easier to play and more complete chromatically
Yes, modern bass trombones are really 'tenor-bass' trombones. The 'true' bass trombones in the early days were pitched in either F or G. The 'tenor-bass' trombones we play today are pitched in Bb, with F/Gb/D valve sections. That opens another can of worms regarding contrabass trombones. True contrabass trombones by definition are pitched in either BBb or CC (Miraphone). The 'contrabass' trombones (Thein) of today are pitched in F, making them a real bass trombone, not a real contrabass.
I am playing the piece on a bass trombone, but it was written for contrabass trombone. The only recording I know of it is by Denson Paul Pollard, and he uses a bass trombone also. Actually, I think Roger Bobo recorded it on tuba as well.
I'm tripping through a bunch of contra and bass instruments right now on YouTube that I had no idea existed. Really enjoyed the tone and playing on this one. Well done!
flooflox 10 months ago
I WANT ONE!!!
jakechapy 1 year ago
thats not a contrabass, contrabasses have double layered slides, plus there are only threee left in the world
handsop 2 years ago
Your right it's not a Contrabass Trombone. But your wrong on the rest of that, there are single slide F Contrabass Trombones and more importantly there are more than 3 in the world. in fact they are still making both Single Slide F Contrabass Trombones and the double slide Bb varieties
Justintime4math 2 years ago
whats lower a bass tuba or contrabass trombone???
s13able 2 years ago
Depends what tuning of contrabass trombone you are referring to. There is F/Eb/Bb (double trigger = Ab) and Bb/F double slide design. The latter and the BBb Tuba are both constructed in 18' BBb, so I'd say both can go down to the fundamental pitch of E0 (7th position or 1-2-3).
OliverKahnNr1 2 years ago
About the Double Slide question. They did make a conn in circa 1902 with the double slides but have since developed the horn to a single slide. Very large horn though.
MrKJohnson22 2 years ago
Although this piece is written for a Contrabass Trombone, it's being performed with a Bass Trombone. I too have a Bass Trombone and even with a typical Bass Trombone mouthpiece I can play with considerable power down to D1 (lower D on the piano) in the pedal register.
Justintime4math 2 years ago
You've got your history backwards, the original insturment was a single slide with a handle to reach far enough. The Double Slide was invented in the late 1800s iirc, and has been the standard ever since. He is playing this on a regular Bass Trombone.
Justintime4math 2 years ago
Hey James long time no see. Sounds great! Where you off to these days?
MrKJohnson22 2 years ago
Wait.... I thought a Contrabass has two slides...
colinpownz 2 years ago
where would u buy a contrabass at?
landhunterr 2 years ago
i am actually going to be performing this at my highschool this december, although i will be using a large bore tenor trombone. i have the range, but i admit, it is pretty low
lowbrassmormon 2 years ago
how do you get such a nice sound on pedals, i have problems holding them long and loud, but some of the lower ones i cant play that loud, any tips?
landhunterr 2 years ago
o my good that has been one of the best trombone solo/duets ive heard.....very very very VERY good quality in playing
guildclash 2 years ago
whoa
olymania 2 years ago
This sounds amazing! Where would I find this music to purchase? Google search came up with nothing but this video.
lauxjm 3 years ago
Play it by ear lol
boneofthewang 2 years ago
hi iam a bass trombone player how u sound like contrabass trombone????
lightingblade5 3 years ago
Well, I'm not really trying to sound like a contrabass trombone. I'm just playing a piece written for contrabass trombone or tuba on bass trombone. The writing is generally lower than you would find for bass trombone, which I love. Some of the more demanding bass trombone solos are written in this register, and I wish more composers would write in the lower register for bass trombone. It gets a beautiful, full sound down there, and it is FUN to play low and loud!
OSYBass 3 years ago 2
Well, I'm not really trying to sound like a contrabass trombone. I'm just playing a piece written for contrabass trombone or tuba on bass trombone. The writing is generally lower than you would find for bass trombone, which I love. Some of the more demanding bass trombone solos are written in this register, and I wish more composers would write in the lower register for bass trombone. It gets a beautiful, full sound down there, and it is FUN to play low and loud!
lightingblade5 3 years ago
o ok can bass trombone can sound like a contrabass trombone?
lightingblade5 3 years ago
Yes and no, for the most part they will naturally sound rather similar plus any skilled palyer can manipulate how they sound on their instrument a lot. As a Bass Trombone and Tuba player, I find playing my Bass Trombone with my Tuba mouthpiece seems to give a more Contrabass Trombone like sound to it, and lot more power down low.
Justintime4math 2 years ago
I have done this more than I should probably admit to (usually with a Bach 25 and 18), but a contrabass trombone mp works MUCH better and actually sounds rather close to an F contra. My combo is a JK KBP2C (regular bass shank, was like 50 bucks from Dillon Music) and a Getzen 1062. I had a 2A for a while, but would not recommend it for a bass trombone. I am actually contra-shopping now; I think I will have to use an F tuba mp on IT to sound "proportionally correct" to my bass trombone... :)
contrabassbob 1 year ago
I'm gonna venture the guess that the contrabass trombone mouthpieces have a smaller throat diameter (and maybe smaller rim to some extent) but are otherwise similar to Tuba mouthpieces.
Justintime4math 1 year ago
Not quite. Contrabone mp's seem to top out at around 31mm (mine is 30mm) and have a slightly narrower rim than a similar similar size tuba mp. I don't know anything about any throat differences. Pick one up- you'll love it!
contrabassbob 1 year ago
Typical Tuba mouthpieces like the Bach 18 I have have an 8.8mm throat diameter, but I've seen listings up to like 10.8mm.
Justintime4math 1 year ago
Phenomenal power and control!!! I will definitely be looking into getting this and attempting it for a solo performance.
FUZZYisBIG 3 years ago
my trombone valve slide has an E natural pull mark
DonnyWangzilla 3 years ago
i just ordered the piece and i am wondering if it is at all possible on a single valve bass trombone cause thats all i got
DonnyWangzilla 3 years ago
Ooo, that might be tough. There are a few low B naturals in the piece, and several Cs. If your valve tuning slide is long enough to pull all the way out for the Bs in flat 7th I suppose you could pull it off. It would be pretty tricky though.
OSYBass 3 years ago
There is no such thing as a single valve bass trombone. It's called an f-attachment trombone. It's a tenor horn.
BassTromboneJ 3 years ago
I guess you've never heard of George Roberts! There certainly IS such a thing as a single-valve bass trombone, which is quite a different animal from a large bore tenor with an 'f' attachment.
TupakSade 3 years ago
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badoc10 3 years ago
i didnt know that they made a .562" bore, 10-in. bell tenor trombone.......modern bass trombones have two valves mine is a modern bass trombone its just an older model that has a single valve because bass trombones originally were pitched in 12' F so around the turn of the century they made bass trombones in Bb with an F valve to make them easier to play and more complete chromatically
DonnyWangzilla 3 years ago
Ok. :)
badoc10 3 years ago
Yes, modern bass trombones are really 'tenor-bass' trombones. The 'true' bass trombones in the early days were pitched in either F or G. The 'tenor-bass' trombones we play today are pitched in Bb, with F/Gb/D valve sections. That opens another can of worms regarding contrabass trombones. True contrabass trombones by definition are pitched in either BBb or CC (Miraphone). The 'contrabass' trombones (Thein) of today are pitched in F, making them a real bass trombone, not a real contrabass.
OSYBass 3 years ago
Ok, I always wondered about that.
Thats what I was thinking.
badoc10 3 years ago
it could be a contrabass trombone in F which has only a single slide
DonnyWangzilla 3 years ago
I am playing the piece on a bass trombone, but it was written for contrabass trombone. The only recording I know of it is by Denson Paul Pollard, and he uses a bass trombone also. Actually, I think Roger Bobo recorded it on tuba as well.
OSYBass 3 years ago
Would be tricky, because it has F#'s and a single valve contra can't play that note (idem the low B on tenor trombones)
JMR6916 3 years ago
The only single valve F contras I have heard of have had the valve in Bb.
contrabassbob 1 year ago
It is not a contrabass trombone!
Ruigekerel 3 years ago
James Meador, bass trombone
Irina Decheva, piano
Performing a recital in Merida, Yucatan to commemorate International Trombone Week 2008.
Read...
Anyways I think he means this piece is writin for a Contrabass trombone, or tuba.
Sounds good tho.
Trompet1990 3 years ago
A fellow bass trombone! I hope to be half as good as you someday!
anwboss 3 years ago
FINALLY A NEW CONTRABASS TROMBONE VID!
Good job keep it up!it was good
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