Diezel VH4 test 1

[JackTheLever]

@Erock503 Hey dude! Congratulations for the video! I love your sound and I envy you for having two of my favourite amps ever (the VH4 and the Herbert)!

Just one question, though: can I combine the Herbert with a regular 2x12 cab with an output of 120W without any problems whatsoever? If not, sticking to the 2x12 halfstack pattern, what speakers should I use to get a great sound out of it? Any response whould be welcome!

[blackMIDImanson]

Are you a muse fan ??? Matt uses a vh4, afterburner cabs and BKP pickups :D

[XylophonEichel]

Am I hearing Bare Knuckle Painkiller PU's here?

[CorNigrum]

How does the VH4 compare to the CCV? Judging from the clips, they seem to have something similar, a modded tight marshall sound with quick attack and more punch.

[snapascrew]

your tone is godly... im KsE fan remember me... we were gonna do a swap, your traiditional mesa for my oversized one? I got a traditional finally... how much better does the mills sound?

[awfulnhead]

are you tuned down a lot? or little? or is the amp cab combo just that good!?, thanks

[jameslugo]

Great sound man.

[loveredhotchilipeppe]

@jameslugo AROUND THE WORLD IN 30 DAYS!!!! aren't I right!?!?

MUCH LOVE FROM THE EAGER-TO-BE ASSISTANT ENGINEER "GEARSLUT SAM"

[dsl100stack]

jut wondering, how did you get a VH4 for $2900? most i see are in the 4500-5000 range, and id love toget one for that kind of price

[Erock503]

@dsl100stack that's about average for used prices in the US.

[dsl100stack]

@Erock503 any links to a site where i can get it for that price?

[Erock503]

@dsl100stack I see them on ebay, but also try some music forums, like Harmony Central, Rig-Talk, TheGearpage, etc...

[munchy040]

@Erock503 hey mate what tubes are in this im guessing el34

[jimmyjames77]

Speaking of Boogie how do the Mills 412 and Boogie 412 compare? I have a boogie slant but am interested in the Mills. Is there THAT big of a difference?

[Erock503]

@jimmyjames77 I like the Boogie cabs a lot. They are great sounding cabs IMO. However, I think the Mills are superior, just in my honest opinion. I don't get the same harshness I used to get with the V30 and certain amps, they sound good with everything I've put thru them. They are tighter, with the same huge resonance, and just project like crazy. The baffling system they use, along with the construction detail, make for an amazing cab IMO.

[jimmyjames77]

Thanks for the info. Not many peeps have both so it is fortunate to have run across your clips. : )

[munchy040]

@Erock503 hey man is this an original song i really like it

[Erock503]

@munchy040 thanks man, yeah, just something I was working on.

[munchy040]

@Erock503 hey bud im back again just wanted to say i still love this song you should put an updated versian of it up !

[rafapak]

great tone!

[gbollo91]

Killer tone mate, how much did that VH-4 cost you??

[Erock503]

@gbollo91

about $2900USD, which was a pretty good deal at the time. They are probably cheaper now with the economy the way it is.

[johnathandk42134]

hey which diezel do you like better the vh4 or herbert? and whats the differences youve noticed? on their website they say the vh4 is tighter which i like really tight percussive amps

[Erock503]

@johnathandk42134

for the stuff I play, I eventually chose the Herbert, but I loved the VH4 too. The Herbert is a bit more modern sounding, not quite as compressed, a little more open sounding. I'm not sure what they mean by tighter though, the VH4 had this bit of a round quality to it for me, on ch3 anyway, which was my favorite. A boost took care of that, but I can dial in the Herbert without a boost.

[johnathandk42134]

@Erock503 sounds like id like the herbert better too, thanks for the reply

[xMACx982]

hey man amp sounds great. right now i have a mesa boogie road king and im thinking about getting another amp. im looking at engls and diezel. what to u think i should get. i want an amp that has more gain then the mesa. for like heavy shit and extended range guitar. so what do u think?

[Erock503]

@xMACx982

The ENGL's are great for the 7 string and extended scale IMO. The Herbert and VH4 both work quite well too though, your ears will have to be the judge man. Sorry I can't be more help.

[dlowrie290]

That thing is a BEAST!!!

[ssi1121]

1st off this video was the inspiration that led me to buy a VH4 and a 2x12 Mills. However after just 2 weeks I blew off 2 fuses and I can't find a replacement anywhere, any suggestions? and which model of bb Xotic u use for channel 3?

[Erock503]

@ssi1121

sorry for the late reply, and thanks for kind words. Radio shack carries the fuses, I have gotten them for backup local. The BB is the standard one with the LED in the top center.

[broodwar1]

My orange rockerverb 100 is louder than my friends jsx 120 watt

[broodwar1]

Man u got some fucking money sitting there...

[5150VanAlien]

Seriously speaking, with the Herbert being rated at about 180 watts, would you ever use that much power. Maybe at Wembley Stadium

[GuardianOfFate12]

180 watts isnt a drastic amount louder than 100w. To get twice the volume, you'd need roughly 10 times the wattage. This isn't even taking into account the size of the power transformer. My 100 watt powerball isn't as loud as a 90 watt Mark V.

@Erock... that's a hell of an amp collection, man. Are those mills cabs worth the extra money over Orange, Mesa, etc.?

[5150VanAlien]

@GuardianOfFate12 Actually it is, and the fact that the Herbert requires an extra pair of power amp valves means that it is going to need much more volume before the power amp even begins to get pushed.

The Powerball may not be as loud as the Mark V but I know for a fact it is better quality and much more reliable. I continually hear horror stories with MESS-UP Boogies and seldom do I hear such things with ENGL's...I know what I want and ENGL suit me just fine.

[cmfrtblynumb88]

That's not the point of the Herbert. The amount of power is merely for the increased headroom, which is highly desirable in an amp with this much preamp gain, and increased low end slam and controllability at high volumes. Honestly it is one of the better low volume amps I have ever played. Counterintuitive maybe, but it's nonetheless true.

[5150VanAlien]

@cmfrtblynumb88 Noise is not measured in watts it's measured in decibels!! Exactly for the ENGL's I have too, at lower volumes they still have tonal character which means I don't have to crank it like a Marshall.

[tony93666]

holy crap, that's about $13,000 worth of amp gear right there!

[5150VanAlien]

Absolutely...dude. Home contents insurance just went through the roof.

[tony93666]

@5150VanAlien - for real! sounds amazing though - I'd give my left nut for one of these amp heads

[5150VanAlien]

@tony93666 You must've been born with 3 nuts then...LOL.

They do sound nice however, you should try an ENGL Savage, even the UK distributor of Diezel amps said the Savage sounded awesome...that says something when your competitor speaks that way about you.

[stpnotfalling]

holy shit! how can you aford all those top of the line amps!

[roel193]

Hi there. Awesome tone and even better playing man! Can i just ask you, did you boost channel 3 using the channel insert?

[Anton11235]

mmm GAin sounds juicy!!!!!!!

[mrhankey87]

Please tell me your opinions about the VH4 and Herbert, which is better suited for Brutal, tight and low tuning riffs?

[Sozos9038]

they are both great for that kind of stuff. the herbert will probably sound a bit meatier due to slightly more saturation

[Erock503]

I would agree. I think the VH4 could pull it off no problem, but the Herbert is a bit better suited for that type of playing IMO.

[ProgThrasher6666]

A 2 Diezels and an Engl Special edition, and 2 mills cabs???

Did ya win the lottery or something???

[Erock503]

haha, I wish. Lots of working, saving, and being an old man helps. :)

[ProgThrasher6666]

@Erock503 What do you think of the cabs?

[Erock503]

the Mills are my favorite cabs by a mile for the stuff I play. Extremely tight, huge lowend with tons of resonance, and excellent overall projection. I have not used a better cab for my tastes in tone, and I've owned quite a few.

[CRANKYONE100]

@Erock503 Hey man...WHere would you rate an Splawn Nitro among Diezels?

[FourT6and2]

What are your amp EQ settings? I have a VH4 also and I'd like to see how this EQ sounds with my rig.

[Erock503]

hey brother, what's up man. I didn't know you scored a VH4, congrats! It's pretty standard EQ, but I'm boosting ch3 with a BB preamp, so that's the secret to that tone IMO. I'll look them up and PM you.

[FourT6and2]

Awesome, thanks!

[knightoftheroundpunk]

anyone else besides me know that james hetfield uses 2 of these things when he plays live?

[gazuul]

Well, if you want this amp i wouldent say that the fact that James uses some of these live would be the pull factor, his tone is not unique at all. His tone is a mixup of alot of other amplifiers.. Not as a good example, but take Adam Jones for example, he also uses more than one amplifier - but the tones heard in alot of tool's songs are from this amp, a gibson silverburst and adam's special teqnique. The Vh4 is one awesome amp anyways, will be my next if i can get my hands on one.

[11163187]

beautiful tone, which attunement you are using?

[Erock503]

Thanks man, it's drop Db

[joser4471]

Man this is the best amp demo I,ve seen. And you play great and awesome tone too.

[Erock503]

hey, thanks man, really appreciate that. I don't really do the amp justice at all though, it's much better than this demo.

[Skepsis0Metal]

Is that Black Hole Sun at the start there?

Might be mistaken though

awesome sounding amp :)

[Erock503]

thanks man, no, just noodling around with my own riffs.

[IWillNotEatCatPoop1]

for the love of god man! thats a hell of a frickin setup you got there... Im assuming you record.

[EMGXX84]

what do you prefer, the diezel vh4 or the engl se?

[quigequige]

the engl se sucks, especially for the price

the invader is the best engl

[OnlyByFishStandards]

DIEZEL FTW

[EMGXX84]

do you prefer your diezel or your engl se?

[JoeBalaguerGuitar]

sounds awesome man! Trade me your VH4 for my ENGL SE EL34 with z-12 footswitch!!! haha come onnn

[bluesman2050]

What tubes do you have in this? I am surprised to hear you say that you think the Herbert is chimier; this tones in this video are more bell-like than any of the Herbert videos I have seen.

[Erock503]

I have Sovtek 6550WE in the VH4, but I was just referring to the clean channel with that "chimey" comment. The Herbert has one of my favorite clean channels of any high gainer I've owned.

[ESPsandEmgs]

OK I have always wanted the VH4!

But recently I have been looking at the Engl SE, thats what brought me to your videos! But now I have a problem, Which one do you like more?

And Which one sounds better for solos? please help me!

I love the deep sound of the Diezel, but the SE is incredible!

[Erock503]

Personally, I think the VH4 is the ultimate rock amp, which can easily pull off more modern metal also. The SE to me is all aggression, it just pummels for the modern metal sound, tons of tight lowend too. Both are great solo amps, you can't go wrong there IMO.

[malicedixmois]

Jesus, two diezels and an engl sitting around? What do you do for a living, turn air into platinum wrapped in gold and diamonds? :D Either way, I'm officially jealous.

[bigscarybear]

... you said it.

[DiminishedFaith]

Haha, agreed. I need money lol, doesn't buy happiness but it sure as hell buys everything else.

[geoff101001]

I'm going to run a mesa boogie cab with my vh4 that im about to buy!

[Erock503]

@geoff101001

that should sound great man!

[yysii]

sorry i have a question...the vintage30 are at 16 or 8 Ohm? ...5 stars

[Erock503]

Thanks, the V30 are 16ohm.

[wickedsensation]

Sick clip.

Do you remember your settings for channel 3?

Thanks.

[Erock503]

thanks man, settings were as follows:

Bass/Deep both at 10:00-11:00

Mid:12:00

Treble: 1:00

Presence: 11:00

CH volume: 11:00 Master: 8:00-9:00

Gain: 11:00

boosted with Xotic BB Preamp, gain 7:00, vol: 2:00, treble/bass: 12:00

[BlueBarrier782]

the oh so famous erock... great gear and you really utilize it with your songs. How do you like the all v30's in comparison to having the g12k's?

[Erock503]

haha, yes, legend in my own mind. :)

I like it a lot depending on the amp. I think these cabs work great with all V30. The V30 really bring out the midrange snarl in some amps. If the amp is a little bright in the upper mids already, I prefer the K100 x V30. They have a very tight big bottom, very strong midrange, but not the upper mid spike of the V30, slightly less upper mid. The V30 work great with an amp that's already tight like the VH4 however. Both configs work great in these cabs IMO

[Pirre1981]

Nice tone man... What powertubes is in there ??

[Erock503]

thanks man, it has Sovtek 6550WD powertubes in it.

[Pirre1981]

Thanks for your reply, hopefully new vids coming soon ;) I'm concidering between Diezel VH4 and Hernert. What do you think about those heads (differences etc...)? Maybe some comparison vid between those beasts next ;) ??

[Erock503]

They are both great heads IMO. Both have a great clean, but the edge might go to the Herbert for me personally. More chimey, but both are great. Crunch, I'm liking the VH4 better, has a bit of vintage vibe to it. Ch2+ on the Herbert and ch3 of the VH4 compare very favorably for heavy stuff. I would say the Herbert sounds a bit more modern and saturated, the VH4 a bit more open stronger midrange. Both lead channels are fantastic, just enough compression and gain to make it seem easier to play.

[BrianSCole]

Sick lowend thump