Vortech GT vs C6 Z06 vs Cam/N20 SS, TBSS vs N20 C5 vs SS

[chaostic84]

nice stang screw driven blowers = fail.

[slackerm1]

@cbeck611

Well, lame comparison, newer car, lower production, can take ridiculous corners etc. Still, Z06's are far from unbeatable, although I have been in some FAST ones (not stock)

[cbeck611]

@slackerm1 yea i know i was just kidding anyway i would still rather have a z06 over my car

[jwlss]

Yeah but 2psi wasn't going to close that gap...

[slackerm1]

@jwlss

Actually it would have, car was super rich....thats why he then thought to look at the boost gauge. With only a 3.33 pulley on the car, any belt slip is a big ass waste, as he isnt spinning the blower hard enough as it is. Same GT has destroyed a 465 rwhp C5 Z06, a 540 rwhp Supra, a high 400 awhp 10 second EVO, and has run close (never got into 4th gear, trans died, this is more recent than this old video) with a high 400 rwhp mild 427 combo in a C5 Z06.

[jwlss]

Bless the power and gearing of the Z06..after 500 mustang don't get faster.

[slackerm1]

@jwlss

Not really that, the stang probably would have won, if his belt was about to die. He put killed a 465 rwhp C5 Z06, which is a hair lighter than the C6 version, and has around 20 rwhp more than a stock C6 Z06. Oh well, thats how it goes

[blown06tc]

@jwlss Congrats! Thats the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[toastedtires]

Buy a Ford and invest in a project that will cost far more than if you had just started with a proper pushrod small block and will never make the same power levels if you stay NA. But if you have to switch to forced induction to keep up with your competition and you were supposed to be it's competition out of the factory and you weren't..........well then you might have a problem. A cam, intake and reflash cost a whole lot less than a charger.

[slackerm1]

@toastedtires

Considering how cheap a used Vortech is for a 2v, there is alot of flaw in that statement.

[TheArfdog]

@slackerm1 Built shortblock = 4G, pair of heads and cams = 4G, intake/exhaust = 1.5G, charger and tune = 5G. Meth = ?? Total for the Ford 2V is at least 14G, getting you about 500 whp. An LS engine needs 4G in heads and cam to make 500 whp.

[slackerm1]

@TheArfdog

You are HIGH. That shortblock wasnt 4k, the heads and cams were less than 2k, and today you could find them for dirt ass cheap considering they are the worst flowing ported 2v heads there are. You can buy an old Vortech S Trim for uner $1500, the one on the car has been on it since for 7+ years, and it does NOT have a kill mode pulley on it. It has less than $500 worth of exhaust on it too. Nice job being an LS1 fanboi, but your math doesnt work out.

[TheArfdog]

@slackerm1 Ok if you want to talk bargain-basement used parts, then used AFR heads are probably 1000 or so each. A used cam, 200. Intake, exhaust, TB, another 500. OK still about $3G in used LS parts. Still way less then what it would take to put a 2V up to the same number. The big advantage is you don't need a built shortblock on the LS to make 500 whp. Displacement is the #1 way to make power, it's physics. Like I always say, anything your motor can do, the LS can do better.

[slackerm1]

@TheArfdog

More fanboy nonsense. A shitty cheap afr head headed, used random camshaft car isnt going to make 500, most BIG CAMSHAFT CARS with TFS 215's dont make 500 in the real world. You dont "need" a built shortblock to make 500 on a 2v or any other modular, but if you want it to last, it's not a bad idea. I have seen plenty of big bad n/a LS1's blow the tops off of pistons, blow the rings out, and eat lifters/rockers etc when trying to make power on the stock shortblock.

[slackerm1]

@TheArfdog

Also, you are forgetting that ANY 2v (or other motor for that matter) could swap pulleys on a combo like this and head for high 500's, or went with a higher compression shortblock and made even more power. Not everybody trys to get the absolute max out of everything just to impress some random LS1 fanboizzzz on youtube dude.

[slackerm1]

@TheArfdog

Also, 500 rwhp doesnt come "that easily" in the REAL WORLD on a heads and cam LS1, and 4k wont even come close to getting it. $1000+ intake manifolds and throttle body combos? Trick Flow heads over $2300 and thats before you have them milled for compression, cam, lifters, high dollar 1 7/8 headers, and all the other nickel and dime stuff you need to hit "the number".

[dylanlovesalcohol]

I'm a Bullitt owner, but I respect any nice car.... especially if they sound as good as these! :D

[belal119911]

bone stock c6 z06 beated a modded car ? thats impressive

[DrewOC45]

z06 is relentless



[hemiowner105]

sweet trailblazer , its alot heavier than these lil cars though, prolly need 600hp to the wheels to lay the smack down

[brad99z28]

Why are people still surprised that 500 hp c6 zo6s are fast lol

[nbatchler1]

That vette is got got a 7 litre compared to a 4.6. Come on I think only on 12 psi it hung in there good. plus I beleieve the vette is lighter!

[cafeevil]

Now is that the Vette's fault? Listen bro if you step up and you win awesome, if you step up and lose then shut the fuck up no one on here wants to hear an excuse. No one wants to hear the displacement differences the ammount of cylinders or the cost of the car.... It was a damn race. all the HP numbers were close. So dont act like a friggan baby in front of the whole world on youtube.

[slackerm1]

@cafeevil

I think the GT would get the Z06, it was tuned making 15 or so psi, it had a bunch of belt slip. Ended up being the tensioner. Shit happens though.

[Sforschondetta]

why is it always belt slip?

. HEY PEOPLE! fix your frikin belt

[MaxwellReviresco]

Any car in any garage would be awesome...but technology is amazing! A livable, tamed daily driver (C6 Z06) can beat those awesome nasty fast yet very impractical cars without sacrificing much of anything. Wonder what a supercar will be like in another 9 years or so from now!...nice vid.

[mrjay602]

love the vette

[zackomac]

I'm wondering if the stang was on 12 or 14 PSI in this video. If it was making 515 or whatever the number was, it should've been at least a couple cars closer to the SS and the Vette

[slackerm1]

@zackomac

Like 12 psi, belt was slipping, car was running rich too, because it wasnt making as much boost as it was tuned for. Was down on power a bit. He should have beat both of them.

[zackomac]

@slackerm1 That makes a little more sense. Anymore videos of that car?

[cafeevil]

Listen dude, ddont be "that guy" they make Cog set ups for real racers. No excuses here.

[slackerm1]

@cafeevil

First of all, they dont make cog setups for a car like this, and they damn sure dont make them for a daily driver with ac and everything.

[cafeevil]

Then go buy the maxgrip package, info states you were running 12psi but hp numbers state 14.5. I see every Mustang on here that looses a race claims belt slippage a smaller engine and more weight. Yet when they win it is nothing but shit talk. BTW there is a Cobra on youtube (Black) with a cog set up on a centrifugal system. you would be running 3 seperate belts 2 for your acc's and the ribbed belt for your SC so we dont hear any more EXCUSES. Excuses are for loosers bro. The better cars won.

[slackerm1]

@cafeevil

You dont know anything about these cars. Cobras run a separate belt for the blower setup, not a single belt running anything. The car started shredding belts shortly after this, thanks to a faulty tensioner. If you dont want to accept that as fact, then thats on you, but recommending things that dont exist, wont fix the car. That same GT drug a lighter C5 Z06 with slightly more power than what that stock C6 Z06 makes......

[MrRobGT]

@slackerm1 I have a pi swapped 2v, they make cog set-ups that runs from the blower to the crank... superstangdotcom has info on the part. Nice run BTW

[saber55]

@slackerm1 House of boost Independent belt drive for all centris not saying your wrong just giving you some info the system works great.The system pictured on the website is for a procharger but they can make them for a vortech or paxton.

[HoNdApAdDy08]

I must say I am impressed with all the cars, they can haul some ass. I was even more impressed how the stock Z06 hung with the stang and SS. Great ass video!

[atlridder]

yeah i agree i was thinkin that zo6 would get handled but it was pull just as hard

[cafeevil]

I dont think I would say hung,,LOL it hung with the SS.

[shauncx1477]

That Vortech GT is f*ckin bad ass. Idc Ive watched other videos of that thing, that thing is nasty. Get some of the new Trickflow Heads and port those things and that GT will see some good horsepower from that...not that it doesnt have enough..lmao

[stangalltheway]

man that 02 gt is so fucking bad ass I N V the person who owns it

[Johnnyboy200406]

if you drive your car often im sure you would know instantly if you have belt slip

[Johnnyboy200406]

belt slip thats a ricer excuse pffff why would you race then with a shitty belt or no compound on the belt

[slackerm1]

Another douche. Maybe he didnt figure out until the middle of the race, and afterwards.....use your head....but not as a hammer like you obviously have been.

[Artchred]

Damn stock Z06 are nasty

[nismodude19]

ehhh, still rather have that mustang, corvettes are too overrated but I respect them.

[DepthChargeZero87]

@nismodude19 lol yeah an mustangs aren't over rated......*eyerolls*

[hugoloves2spooge]

Vortechs use belts? That's why I plan to go turbo. 2v's can be made fast as fuck though.

[slackerm1]

??????? ALL superchargers use belts

[mrlaird]

OMG WHO KNEW?

[b00stedrust]

lol c5 z06's trap 118mph...so youre telling me a 480whp-518whp mustang gt cant trap 118? crazy...makes me feel better and better about my teg..lol

[slackerm1]

That car has DRUG a C5 Z06 that made 465 rwhp....it just ran like this this night, it happens lol

[kushnugz]

I'll stick with the vette haha or the tbss

[cobra2004t]

thats y i hate gts 2 value all that power n gt walked by a ss with 100 less pwr just by a cobra terminator ford lover but i want a ss just 2 beat up on gts respect is earned n gts never gt any

[slackerm1]

wtf are you talking about? The GT makes like 30 more hp than the SS when the GT IS ON POINT, not when the blower belt is slipping. That GT has drug manyyyy Cobras in it's day.

[larryadam2]

lol poor mustant always bringing up the rear

[tucubanito305]

i wonder what would happen if the gt was in its 14.5 psi not 12psi of boost what would happen.....that would be really interesting!!!

[cobrasvtkb]

4.6 l , 4.6 l , 4.6 l

[qckrsguy88]

i would like to run them with my 50 trim 355 turbo 3rd gen lol

[qckrsguy88]

haha fords suck dick gt got pulled on by two n/a cars

[slackerm1]

I think the GT could have outran both, but it had alot of issues that night, sucks he never got a rematch, the SS got totaled, the Z06 lives 150 miles away. Oh well

[pereztang]

where's the mustang

[marcomariaz26]

poor mustang... lol...

[cleancutyellow]

Very good vid...I give it five stars..like the way you gave the mods of each car..

[jaws2003]

I always like ur vids. Keep up the good work man!!!! What ever happened to ur buddy with the silverado with the 100 shot? I wouldn't mind running him on motor when i get my cam installed.

[slackerm1]

Thanks dude! He sold the truck

[CockYaLegS]

The new zo6 is a sick fucking machine! Nice vids!

[ace587]

im an import guy, but i have MAD respect for those cars. Fine works of art :D

[motohorse87]

YEAH!!!!! turbo SN95 5.0 in the very first race lol.

[slackerm1]

Dont know much about that car but I do know it had an 88mm turbo....

[Ibanez91]

Z06 ftw!

[avengedmotorhead]

A GI Joe 8 rib setup should cure that problem of slippage.....

[slackerm1]

That kit is alot of money for what you get, my friend just wont buy it for that Vortech setup

[avengedmotorhead]

What setup is he planning on switching to?

[slackerm1]

Keeping it 6 rib

[sang9768]

Nice rides, GM baby.

[mustang281gt03]

that sucks! well get him to go again i'm curious to see what that setup will run!

[mustang281gt03]

yea! got to upgrade!!did he ever go to the track with it?

[slackerm1]

He tried once, hurt the clutch, think thats when it broke the motor mount too?

[mustang281gt03]

Nice vid! i love that gt, does your friend have a 8 rib setup on his blower?

[slackerm1]

6 rib! It sucks

[z28jd]

awesome video that makes me even more determined to finish my camaro

[hangguy209]

c6 zo6 are no jokes.

[slackerm1]

Yea, they are strong for sure, I think the GT could have gotten both of them but thats racing, sh!t doesnt always go as planned lol.

[gtizzle66]

another great video and i agree the GT could have gotten both of them on 14 pounds.

[eljavystang]

just tight the belt lol u get more boost

i broke my block in 2 pz 302 stock bottom @18 boost :(

[slackerm1]

You cant tighten the belt on the 4.6 Vortech setups, it has an auto tensioner. It sucks lol

[Xarmy187]

this guy always has amazing video's :D

ill have to remember the traction mod!

[slackerm1]

Thanks man!

Yea, the traction mod, Im the cameraman who trys to help LOL

[slackerm1]

Thanks man! Going to make another one here in a bit.

[xbanex]

once again sick ass video. keep up the good work