Deck of the Week keyblader007 UWAllies (1-12-2011)

[mstter]

Shes called Elspeth Tirel. Not Elspeth Tiril jeez.

[keyblader007]

Where did the battle test videos go I can't find them anywhere?

[KlotzProductions]

@keyblader007 Click on "uploads" at the top of the page and then do a search for "playtesting" on the right side.

[keyblader007]

@KlotzProductions I looked it's not there. Wasn't there an annotation on this video that led to it originally?

[KlotzProductions]

@keyblader007 Try searching "deck of the week" instead.

[keyblader007]

@KlotzProductions More videos are there but not the play testing for mine... Also when your on MWS how do you start a new game witht the same opponent?

[KlotzProductions]

@keyblader007 I may not have done testing with that deck then... not sure. Also, I am not sure about the new game thing... I think you just go to "file" "start new game" or something... or maybe load the deck again. It is been a long time since I played workstation.

[keyblader007]

@KlotzProductions You definitely tested with it. I think you did it against 2 different decks but I remember watching at least one test!

[thebradms]

looks like a fun deck

[blizzmen]

To vid:

Jace is normaly only used just to brainstorm(or to faith seal if it's the right situation..)

but in the deck it is kinda pointless ;)

[keyblader007]

The deck isn't as bad as everyone is saying! It has served me well and first of all any Ally over 3 mana isn't worth using so Talus Paladin sucks and jwari shapeshifter sucks too. It sucks because when you play it people respond by killing your copy target and making you shapeshifter come in at 0/0. I don't use the titans, Baneslayers, Elspeths, Mimic Vats, or Chalices anymore.

In fact besides the lands and allies the whole deck is different including the sideboard.

[keyblader007]

@keyblader007 I have 2 Jace the Mind Sculptor's, 2 Gideon Jura's, and 2 Venser's still and they are working fine. I now have main board Journey to nowhere's and I am testing out 2 Elesh Norn's and 2 Norn's Annex. So far testing is proving positive. My sideboard is WAY more consistent and has a lot of great removal for the current format. I change this deck after after few tournaments so it is constantly evolving. I think some of the advice this video gave was good (as in take out the Baneslayers

[keyblader007]

@keyblader007 I tried the Kabira Evangels, they were good but now they aren't so they went out. This isn't a basic aggro ally deck that is why JTMS and Gideon are there. Join the ranks doesn't work well enough either. It's 4 mana which is hard to have open first of all and second it makes vanilla 1/1 allies which are useless. My sideboard was a mess at this point and I even admit I am ashamed of it. Now I got 3 Condemn, 3 Day of Judgment, 3 Divine Offering, 4 Celestial Purges, & 2 Tectonic edge

[MrZotZot]

need join the ranks

[johnaggron112233]

I sent u a deck list

mind giving me ffeedbacks? :P

[peteyprojects]

i find it funny that just about all of my comments about how horrible this deck is have been deleted way to suck out

[ximbabwe0228]

this guy could remedy the American national debt by selling this deck to like China or something

[YOKTES2YOUVIDS]

on top of sucking, if i acouly bought this deck in singles it would be upwards of 500$

[AlexGERONIMO]

he runs white but no talus paladin and blue but no jwari shapeshifter. I think allies are worthless without black, but he doesn't even have the good ones for the colors he does run. take all the random crap out and put in cards that actually provide synergy

[NeonOrangeRhino]

dont build it the way he did, you might as well go bant and at least add harabaz druid..

[IamBIEVER]

I agreed with all your changes. The only thing that isn't great (suprisingly) is mimic vat. I tried it out in an ally deck that i built, and it was too slow. But I think this could be really solid if you swapped the baneslayers for the blue five drop ally that lets you draw a bunch of cards, and if you took out all the planeswalkers except for venser. Also if you put in 4 journeys and some condems.

[MegaJokaz]

Did you saw the deck i submited you?

[KlotzProductions]

@MegaJokaz Yes, I got your message.

[arkivePOD]

4 words... Worst ally deck ever!!!

[keyblader007]

@arkivePOD What do you know!

[theMFmtg]

This deck is suposed to be fast. So why only 2 Seachrome coasts and why 4 Glacial fortress?

[keyblader007]

@theMFmtg Why not?

[Nodrog666]

Look, guys, Halimar Depths is not that good. Sure you get to look at the top 3, but it's basically an island that comes into play tapped. As far as mana goes, it's way too slow. I'd rather turn 1 Island + Preordain.

[MiracleOverloading]

I was really excited about this deck list and the possibility of sleeving up something similar.

Then I saw the titans.

Then I saw the Baneslayers

Then I saw 4 flavors of Planeswalker.

Damn it.

[KlotzProductions]

@MiracleOverloading Yeah, but I suggested removing most of them anyway... so you should be good.

[keyblader007]

@MiracleOverloading I made this deck!

[keyblader007]

I mill plenty of people with this deck and baneslayer helps me A LOT!

[keyblader007]

I used to use Kabira and join the ranks they didn't work well! Also Gideon ALWAYS helps! Maybe Elspeth could go though even though she's my emergency field wipe!

[DANCSINY]

@MiracleOverloading You can ALWAYS sleeve up something similiar, without bursting your wallet, but i Understand your concern... but find the cards you can't afford, and try to find cheap subsitutes :) often works :)

[Starkiller4471]

can u also show EDH matches since its becoming so popular

[ZodianOrder]

I run a ally deck in standard and i us 4Hada/4kazandu/3Talus/4Umara/3­Thrummingbird for creatures

3into the roil/3Jurney/2Luminarch/2Lux/4­ManaLeak/4SpellPierce/3SteadyP­rogress/3TectonicEdge for my main board

2Cancel/4CelestialPurge/3Flash­freeze/1Journey/4Spreading Seas/1TectonicEdge

My Creatures get big fast and the proliferates a+ makes lux or luminarch ascension kicks in fast and i have the spells to keep my guys alive and keep theres down, i think the deck in this video has alot of weekness

[kiieru]

I tried a more aggro version of this deck. It was AWFUL.

[KlotzProductions]

@Necrotopia1349 I will be at the pre-release party at the end of the month recording... probably do a deck tech of my deck I play that day.

[BankaiKisuke]

Did you forget about Talus Paladin or do you think he's not worth it?

[KlotzProductions]

@BankaiKisuke the Paladin just gives lifelink, so I didn't think he was as good. He also cost four... you already have the 2 mana life gainers. You don't want to many expensive spells in a deck that is supposed to be fast.

[peteyprojects]

no wonder they had to give away packs to get people to watch this kind of low grade rubbish like if you agree

[cowwell50]

Wtf is this deck? Pws, allies, mimic vat, lifegain, mill? Mimic vat and allies is terrible cuz allies is prone to doj/consume, vat doesnt make up for this lost of ca. Just take out the allies for removal and some finishers.

[butterbps98]

What is this? Aggro? Control? You either go all in allies or all in control, you cant play 24 lands and small allies + High cost planeswalkers and high cost finishers. Its just doesn't work.

[keyblader007]

@butterbps98 It's a mix of Agrro/control/mill! It depends on my opening hand but it plays all 3 ways!

[Burningdemon23]

Lol this deck is bad. Enough said. Jace in the SB, blasphemy!

[keyblader007]

@Burningdemon23 Nope! I won 1st place with this deck many times!

[DragonstoneWolfe]

The ammount of Planeswalkers is REDICULOUS. x.x

It's "U/W Ally" Minus the ally. xD

But I would say some mass removal would do good too, if things aren't going your way.

+3 Day of Judgement (One in sideboard as well.)

-3 Elspeth Tirel (3 is including the one in the sideboard)



[arcroy7]

NO GIDEON

[keyblader007]

@arcroy7 Why not!

[8acon8oy101]

Rite of Replication finishes the game for most Ally decks. 2 of those go a long way

[BassistZak]

-2 Elspeth Tirel

-2 Baneslayer Angel

+4 Kibera Evangel

-2 Everflowing Chalice

-2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

+4 Mana Leak

-2

-1 Gideon Jura

+3 Jace Beleren

[SirVash]

Talus Paladin, good board card for tough fights against aggro.

[MTGBudgetBuilder]

jwari shapeshifter!!

[TacticsElf]

I play against this deck every time I go over to his house (Keyblader007) he's a good friend of mine. I've never beat this deck, it is ridiculous. :-\

[keyblader007]

@TacticsElf I wish you told me this video came out lol!

[RedRingStudios]

As far as the sideboard goes: -1 Elspeth -2 Frost Titan -1 Revoke Existence -2 Mystifying Maze +3 Spell Pierce +1 Volition Reins +2 Jace Beleren Elspeth and Frost Titan are not cards this deck wants. Revoke is fine at two against WW Quest, but what are you Mazing? Titans? Sea Gate Oracle? Pulse Tracker? Really. Spell Pierce and Beleren are for the control matchup; you lock them out of Jace with Sun Titan + Beleren. Reins is just fun with Venser. Hope I've helped. :)

[RedRingStudios]

-2 Elspeth Tirel

-2 Gideon Jura

+4 removal (Condemn, Mana Leak, Journey to Nowhere)

I honestly don't know what the right call with this deck is, due to how it functions. Often times, you're just going to tap out every turn to commit to the board; Condemn is a better choice in this situation. Problem is, Condemn's terribad against Titans. Mana Leak is a more telgraphable answer to them, but leaves you weak to Trap. Journey is solid but weak against Primeval Titan. I'm not sure on this one.

[keyblader007]

@RedRingStudios No counter spells work in this deck at all! Also Gideon is a must!

[RedRingStudios]

-4 Umara Raptor

+4 Jwari Shapeshifer

Wild Griffin that gets bigger is cute, but you're more than likely going to want to go the route of gaining absurd life with Clerics or having more Kazandu Blademasters on board.

-2 Baneslayer Angel

+2 Renegade Doppleganger

I don't know if this is even the right call due to how the triggers function, but if it is the right call, then it's insane. Even after you play the Ally, being a slower Hada Freeblade that just picks up abilities is useful.

[ASPerlman]

Elspeth Tirel is pronounced Elspeth Tah-rel

[headbanger4563]

jwari shapeshifter should definitely be added. I think in place of either the excavators or the ondu clerics

[RedRingStudios]

-4 Halimar Excavator

+4 Kabira Evangel

Mill is terrible with Vampires being a popular deck, a deck that runs on its engine. Helping your opponent get the engine going by milling the Bloodghasts is counterproductive, and they're maybe better in the sideboard. Evangel is really good atm with most decks' creatures being one color.

-2 Everflowing Chalice

+2 Mimic Vat

The deck needs its white mana, and its Ally triggers. Chalices aren't productive to this. Vats are. Continued...

[KlotzProductions]

I completely forgot about people in Germany not being able to watch this video until I had already completed it. The next week I will probably remove the background music even though it ads to the video so they can view it as well.

[TheZero503503]

@KlotzProductions How about you just find a nice German track to put in the background? :D

[KlotzProductions]

@TheZero503503 you find me one and I'll consider it ;) It has to be one that you are allowed to use on youtube for revenue sharing though.

[mtgdeckguy]

FIRST COMMENT THIS DECK IS MEH...