At least Jews are civilised.I am sick of muslim suicide bombers,muslim plane bombers,muslims in general...THERE SHOULD BE A PILL ON THE MARKET SO THAT ALL THESE MORONS CAN GO TO ALLAH AND BE HAPPY..INSHALLAH
Yep aha, mercy for your convenience. Do Islam respect women? What does the Koran order to do to those opposing Islam? To kill them, right? That speech is just convenience because the whole religion is bloodier than whatever Israelis have done. How can you believe the Abraham story by convenience? Abraham called God Eli or Jehovah, who are you to change the name to supposedly Allah? God told Abraham his seed was going to inherit Canaan. So why you want to agree that Muslims have right to Israel
This video is a great example of a lame excuse. Israel is the Jews ancestral homeland, and only a complete fool would think otherwise. The people who lived there before 1948 were largely Christian, and were slaughtered by the muslims who invaded palestine to make war with Israel.
It is obvious that the Israelites made leagues with these people and quit fighting. Thus, they violated all conditions set forth by God.
conditions and commandments were not obeyed by the Israelis, Canceling their right to live in Israel, the land is promised to them, but their occupation of the land is against the will of God.
And Samuel said to him, "The LORD has torn the kingdom of Israel from you this day, and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you." 1Samuel 15:28
One question how did the Jews get to europe? when the Romans exiled them into arabia? and into africa? all the passages towards Europe was roman occupied?
Proof of jews being in arabia by alot of numbers is in muhammeds time, so many jewish tribes in arabia?
Muslims might be the descendants of Abraham, but!!!!! Hager was kicked out of the tribe of Abraham. Therefore, she is not to be considered one of the 'chosen' people of God. Read it in the Holy Bible...you twit. hehehehe lol lol lol Anyone who knows their Bible knows this man is twisting history to suit his wants. Typical of a Muslim.
@SS2762ab they follow ishmael but muslims are not descendants of Abraham, its a BIG LIE, like all the shitty coran. izlam belongs to satan, allah the bastard is the 666
Sholmo Sand , Professor of history at Tel Aviv University"[The] chances that the Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Judaic people are much greater than the chances that you or I [meaning Israeli Jews] are its descendents."
Important studies archived here include the University College London study of 2002, Ariella Oppenheim's study of 2001, Ariella Oppenheim's study of 2000, Michael Hammer's study of 2000, Doron Behar's study of 2008, and others.
showed that
*Ashkenazi is Israelites. Ashkenazim also descend from European peoples such as Slavs and Khazars
Libyan Jews are mainly Israelites who have mixed with Berbers.
This is also she found from her study " about 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool. The geneticists asserted that this might support the claim that Palestinian Arabs descend in part from Judeans who converted to Islam. "
@Ztnx20 Darn, you just contradicted yourself. In one post you are claiming Jews are not Jews and yet in another they and the Palestinians are genetically similar who themselves are said to be descendants of Jews (which is false). Everyone should read the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica and other contemporary reports on Palestine. Palestinians are composed of Greeks, Arabs, Armenians, Turks, Persians, Bosnians, Albanians, Afghans etc..they are not descended from the ancient Judeans.
Ztnx20; There is no such a reaserch ( -> 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool ). Jews have common genes among themselves and it is close to other inhabitants of ME especialy Kurds.
A Vast majority of Palestinians are descendant of area's original inhabitants (Canaanites)
Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis ((Palestinian 1948)) and Palestinians, together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized."
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The worst part of it is that he probably believes his own ludicrous statements. It is sad also because as long as Jews in Israel face such poor intellectual competition, then it is all too easy.
A study by Arella Oppenheim and her colleagues published in human genetics in showed that about 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool . The genetics asserted that this might support that Palestinian Arabs descend in part from Judeans who converted to islam
And the Muslims of Palestine are not at all expecting the Jews or Christians to migrate, but Authority and government legislations should be RIGHTLY handed over to the Muslims as they had before, thus, Jews and Christians can live peacefully under the Law of the Muslims as they have been for decades.
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saying its a muslim land is destructive to the palestinian cause, jews can easily say: well, you palestinians can go to any one of these dozen countries they 'own'
To say its a Muslim land is not destructive at all because the land 'TRULY' belong to the Muslims and for anyone to hide this FACT will be doing 'injustice' since as we all know the Zionist have STOLEN the land and unjustly taken Authority over the Muslims.
dir yassin is half a lie...the egyptions exagurated it to scare other palastinians and then most arabs run away......the arabs who stayed now have an israeli passport and are living in israel having a beter life than most other arabs in other arab states.
arab population in israel is 20% so noone driven them out.
It is again a Biblican-Quranic reading of history. In truth, there were no "Jews" who came into Canaan at some point, but rather Canaanites who turned to monotheistic faith, some of which became Judaism. There were no Hebrews coming from outside as the Bible suggests but rather Canaanites that lived in the central hill areas and who called themselves 'ivrim (Hebrews), meaning those from the hills. Judaism and Islam both forgot about ancient Hebrew-Canaanite identity.
is the "genetic marker" of the ancient "Canaanties and Phoenicians"...
So, that means -- (Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese) who carry this J2 genetic marker are infact modern CANAANITES.
NOTE: The genetic marker J2 of the ancient Canaanites is found within muslims and christian population of the Levant (i.e., Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanians, and Syrians).
For more information on this J2 genetic marker -- please read my (youtube profile).
Yes indeed, Jews and Palestinians are the descendants of the SAME NATION!!! The Hebrew-Canaanite language was their tongue and in a very distant past they worship the same gods.
A study by Arella Oppenheim and her colleagues published in human genetics in showed that about 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool . The genetics asserted that this might support that Palestinian Arabs descend in part from Judeans who converted to islam
Adultery is legalised by you - MUSLIM LIARS- by introducing islamic tenet known as TEMPORARY MARRIAGE.
My sailor acquaintance told me that sailors are allowed to commit adultery legally by using the TEMPORY MARRIAGE certificate to prevent arrest for committing KALWAT !!!
IN REALITY, you -Muslims- are THE GREATEST MOCKERS OF ALLAH FOR:
1] COVERING ADULTERY USING TEMPORARY MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE;
2] PROCLAIM hypocritically RAMADAN as 12 hours when it is 24 hours.
@explaining4u.. DID U SEE GOD TALKING TO MOSES?? Nobody was with him on the mount of Siani when this happened, yet u "believe" Moses!!!
ALSO for the adultery issue & temporary marriages, this is not in sunna islam which is 90% of muslims in the world. I agree with u that it's adultery & the quran itself states so. But dont u have in anything people who deviate?! KABALAHs for example claim they r jews while they do witchcraft!!!! The lies are from such jew who doesnt want to see the truth
funny you should use the word lies, and what truth is it that those Jews don't want to se could it be the same truth that muslims don't want to se either, Moses did come down the 10 commandments right?
@hannahr77 Yes i believe moses came down with the 10 commandments and he even mentioned a messiah coming after him. ONE EXAMPLE: Check Torah Songs of Solomon 5:16 in the hebrew language where it is talking about the messiah who has black hair and his mouth speaks sweet words (Quran is in a poetic form) and that he is MOHAMAD'im... Can u tell me now who can see and who is blind???
hmm first of all song of Solomon is not int the Torah it't in the Tanak, and nowhere does it speak of Messiah with black hair and his mouth speaks sweet words, really now you ppl make this up as you go along
song of Solomon 5
16 His mouth is most sweet, Yes, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, And this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem
nice try my dear lost friend but your using taqiyya and that's not lovely
@hannahr77. Ok songs of solomon in the hebrew bible or the old testament (which includes torah, Nevi'im, and ketuvim or miqra or tanakh). it's just a common expression to refer to the hebrew bible (with it's 3 parts) as torah which is only a part of it i know. 5:11 it says "His head is purest gold; his hair is wavy and black as a raven." 5:16 mentions his mouth is sweet (would that rather mean sweet in kissing or says sweet words)?! & it's describing the messiah here, the loved one. U R LOST.
really and what nation would that be? let me guess his 1's wife, his 2nd wife, his 3rd wife or 4th wife, muhammad never had a nation, what he had was this a band of highway robbers and bandits, at 1 point he had more wives than followers
@09krymez he had satan witness coz he stuck a deal to serve him for ever, that is why muzlimz are known as satan's army and allah the bastard is the 666
The palestinians were never there.The anciants tribes that were in Canaan were dispersed or inter marry with the Israelites. Just to remind you dear "professor" the Muslims came to palestine 2500 years after the jews ,so why dont you rewrite your speech to say the real facts
"Muslims came to palestine 2500 years after the jews" Is that your argument??? First , he meant that Arabs not the Muslims, but anyway Islam is a faith my friend not a race, so although there weren't any "Muslims" in ancient times, Palestinians of today are the same people who inhabited the land back then but with a new faith.
When the Jews came back to Canaan there were seven nations which were setteled there.Those nations were disperesed or intermarry with the jews.The modern Palestinians DO NOT go as far as the time of Abraham.The question is do they have any right to the land ,my answer I hope so.
And where is your proof for that claim if I may ask???? Also, even if it was true (which it isn't) you're claiming Jews have a right to take the land just because their great great ......... great grand fathers owned it. If that was a legitimate claim, then why don't you give the Americas back to the natives? Although I would argue that the native have a stronger case than the Jews. I'm originally from hebron and my family have lived in Palestine for hundreds of years... (continued)
How does a Jew from Poland or another from Russia have more claim to the land of my ancestors than me? Because this is what you have right now in Israel, most are either Jews who were originally citizens of other countries, or 1st or maximum second generation Israeli's born to people who were citizens of other countries.
Are you making that claim based on verified historic and archeological findings? or just on the authority of bible?. (not being sarcastic though). But if you want to argue (promised land) have to know that Arabs are descendants of Ishmael who was the son of Abraham. So if Abraham and his descendants were promised the land , then we were promised the land as well. You see, Arabs DO go as far back as Abraham.
Arabs are not fully Semitic. Jew are. Let me explain. You see, Abraham (who was a Semite), married Sarah ( also a Semite). They had a son named Isaac ( fully Semitic)
On the other hand, 13 yrs before birth of Isaac, Abraham had to marry Hagar (NOT a Semite). From this marriage they had Ishmael. Hagar was Egyptian (who are descendants of Ham son of Noah & bother of Sam).
israel leaves gaza and what it gets back - rockets from gaza and then plenty of criticisms from all over the world about israel's self-defence... the similar thing will occur if israel withdraws from the west bank.
this only shows that by no way israel should not withdraw from the west bank until it is clear that the arabs of the west bank and gaza are peaceful in their intentions. as for now their only desire is the destruction of israel - Jordan is Palestine, it's big enough
How can a people colonize their own land? The irony that the indigenous Jews (semites) have been the target of genocide throughout history does not make the so-called Palestinians legitimate. Islamic Arabs are the colonizers, and have been ever since camels, Shariah, and tents began to go out of fashion only during the past eighty years.
As to the influx of European Jews -- they're the only ones left.
Jews hold that since their semetic origins are of those people whom God "promised" the land to, they deserve the land more than anyone else. But the fact of the matter is that they are NOT the only semetic people, who descend from Abraham or Jacob. They are, in fact, only a particial sect within themselves and within the entirety of the semetic ppl of the world.
Arabs are not fully Semitic. Jews are. Let me explain. You see, Abraham (who was a Semite), married Sarah ( also a Semite). They had a son named Isaac ( fully Semitic)
On the other hand, 13 yrs before birth of Isaac, Abraham had to marry Hagar (NOT a Semite). From this marriage they had Ishmael. Hagar was Egyptian (who are descendants of Ham son of Noah & brother of Sam).
wow u clearly lack a piece of understanding. how about leave ur cacoon where u think everything u say is right regardless of what others can inform u of? it is NOT ONLY a fact form the BIBLE! Muslims follow the QURAN and JEWS follow the (modern) TORAH! Each of these reveals that Abraham was a forefather to the Israelite, SEMETIC group of ppl. Secondly, it is HISTORICALLY SOUND, that Abraham was a forefather to the semetic group of ppl.
Hey Mr. Intelligent. Let me inform you that there is a book called encyclopedia. There you can look up words, Torah & Koran. To your surprise, (& disappointment) you'll find that Torah is 2000yrs older than Koran, which is contrary to what you believe.
hey stupid guy, first of all, you're not semite, I AM, so quit speaking on MY BEHALF, we all know where you came from, you khazar piece of shit...and i never claimed that moses came after mohammed peace be upon them both...but the torah you have now is fabricated...and the jews never owned palestine, they were not originally from there, they were immegrants.
attributing incestry, drinking,alcoholism, and more unethical actions to prophets..This is not a book of God, God is above this garbage and filth that you believe in and so is his prophets, men chosen from all mankind carry His message and you attribute such filth and garbage to them...only sick people would take this as a religion.
the torah and the whole tanakh is fabricated... there is no proof that what you have is the real and original teachings, unlike the quran, regardless whether you think it is from God or not, you can not deny that what we have today is the exact words the prophet mohammed peace be upon him had spoken since it was preserved and never chaneged, since it was written and documnted down and preserved throuout the years.
Yes, of course, why didn't I think of that before. What could be holier than Koran, the book that teaches people how to kill "infidels".
Islam is truly a religion of peace. Decapitation of journalists, chopping child's hands for steeling an apple, stoning a girl for being raped, forcing women to blow themselves up in a crowded market, using women & children as human shield is a holly & peaceful mission that every honorable muslim should follow.
there are no such things in islam loool how ironic that you attribute such things to muslims when isrealis are the ones who kill journalists, children, rape, bomb, and use others including children as human shield...i guess whatever wrong things you do you like to attribute them to others looool .... what a hypocrite loooooool ....i also suggest you read your own holy book and learn these acts from it since it's the best source for this.
Utroobka infonotes is right i a Muslim have read the Torah it speaks of Jews ALLOWED to commit crimes against non Jews and refers to non- Jews as gentiles! The Talmund also says Moses raped 3 year old girls which I have read aswell and pfff from a Jewish point of view you would call Muhammed a pedophile?HAH!Hypocrites is what you are. And also ever heard of feudalism or is it just too big of a word for you? Extremists blow themselves up those are called terrorists you buffoon.
also the rape thing thats things in extremist places who do things that are just stupid like Saudi Arabia and the so called Pakistan "Sharia" Law. Nowhere in the Quran may what you have said EVER be found. And killing infidels? You take things out of context you ignorant fool, those things are to speak about the Islamic battles when the Empire was spreading and that all who attack you , you must fight back. If we are meant to kill infidels why are there so many non-Muslims in Muslim countries?
By the way, speaking of jokes, let me tell you one.
The joke is about terrorist instructing students on how to detonate a bomb:
An instructor comes in to the class with a bomb belt strapped around his waist. After many unsuccessful attempts on explaining how it works, he decides to demonstrate it. But before he does it he cautions them by telling -"Please pay attention , I can show you only once."
Arabs are not fully Semitic. Jew are. Let me explain. You see, Abraham (who was a Semite), married Sarah ( also a Semite). They had a son named Isaac ( fully Semitic)
On the other hand, 13 yrs before birth of Isaac, Abraham had to marry Hagar (NOT a Semite). From this marriage they had Ishmael. Hagar was Egyptian (who are descendants of Ham son of Noah & bother of Sam).
utoobka you idiot...bring me evidence that hagar wasn't semite..this is one of your jewish lies. Hagar was a true Canaanite, i.e.pure semite...you khazar jew, you're not even semite, go back to Russia....bring me one historic ancient jewish thing in jerusalem..do you know anything about mermirite graveyard? stop destoying that grave yard that is more than 4,000 years old...
these are not islamic sources you idiot loool the writers are not even muslims...there were ppl living in palestine long before the jews migrated to it..and they are the original semites..now you shouldn't be talking about semitisim since you're not one..again, go back to russia.
According to Qisas Al-Anbiya, an Islamic collection of tales about the prophets, Hagar was the daughter of the King of Maghreb, a descendant of the Islamic prophet Salih. Her father was killed by Pharaoh Dhu l-'arsh and she was captured and taken as slave. Later, because of her royal blood, she was made mistress of the female slaves and given access to all of Pharaoh's wealth. Upon conversion to Abraham's faith, the Pharaoh gave Hagar to Sarah who gave her to Abraham.
According to another Islamic tradition, Hagar was the daughter of the Egyptian king, who gifted her to Abraham as a wife, thinking Sarah was his sister.[8] Ishmael's birth to Hagar caused strife between her and Sarah, who was still barren. Abraham brought Hagar and their son to a land called Paran or (Faran in Arabic) which is the land surrounding Mecca, where the angel Gabriel showed him the Ka'aba.
lool it's so funny when one reads your stupid book especially when your God yahuwa regrets creating the semites , go back to russia and quit pretending to be a semite.... you're so pathetic...bring me one evidence of any kind of a jewish kingdom in jerusalem or palestine..
you won't find any, but you'll find plenty of the canaanite, the history of palestinians , the true inhabitans and semites , not fakes like you...tell me, why do some jews claim that solomons temple was in nablus and others claim that it was in jerusalem looooool ..you'er pathetic liars.
The jews make the same claim, that the JEWS are decendants of Abraham and therefore inherit the "promised land". With the Jewish logic, Dr. Jamal Badawi attacks this claim, otherwise, with ur logic, yes, Jews are a religious group, as well as Muslims, and are not all composed of semetic types. The bible is not mentioned when he speaks of descent, it is a known SEMETIC fact that the forefather of the semites is Abraham, whether u be Jew, Christian, or Muslim.
what r u saying? u dont make any sense. arabs and israelites alike are semetic people, whose ancestor is the forefather Abraham. its an indesputable fact.
lol, whether or not the bible says it is irrevelant. he is talking about the truth,a dn the truth is that all arabs are semetic and are as a whole decendants of Abraham their forefather. The original Hebrews and the Arabs are in fact one family, they are relatives to each other.
He doesnt lie, you believe in lies and people lie to u. Therefore anything that goes against the lies you believe, u automatically accuse of falsehood.
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Muslims can live in Israel too, in fact there are Muslims in Israel, so why the huge upset? It's like Jews coping with the Germans after WWII. At least they moved on.
Laurentleflambeur, the Muslims that live in so called Israel are Palestinians, they had no choice but to have an israeli passport or leave their land and never allowed to come back. The huge fuss is that the Palestinians are the original inhabitants and the israelis stole their land, no one should cope with this injustice.
There are mosques and sympathy for Muslims so to me it seems like it's just a petty argument over a name. I know a lot of countries were changed during the Arab revolt, in fact there is no Kurdistan even though there are 20,000,000 Kurds. Another thing about Kurds (my family is Kurdish) in Iraq/Iran/Azerbaijan/Armenia we face a lot of persecution. This in my opinion is also a bad problem, but I don't necessarily think we need a Kurdistan, as long as we are accepted for who we are.
The mosques were there long before the zionists step foot in Palestine, they did not built them but are plotting to destroy them like they destroyed every other historic sites and buildings that relate to Palestinian history, even graves were not spared. You are only kidding yourself when you say "sympathy for the muslims", do you take me for an ignorant that you can lie to!
Israel has so many mosques & churches there. on the other hand go count sinagogues in arabic countries or in gasa. That alone is a proof of jewish tolerance of other religions.
Not only that. islam is only 1400 yrs old. jews were expelled from israel (Judea) 2000yrs ago. How can there be mosques in Israel 2000yrs ago, if islam was not in existence.
The Zionists are not semetic people as they claim, they are Khazars, a well known fact, so they have no right to be in Palestine, and have no right to commit mass murder and take out the original inhabitants so that they can stay there.
Almost all of islamic nations that are not arabic are the result of forced conversions. Just to name few: Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan & the rest of the stans were given a choice of sword or islam.
seems that you're ignorant about history...and by the way , you as a jew who supports teh terrorist state of israel should be ashamed and look at yourself...and don't tell me about teh mosques and churches that israel has and is toleratnt about them..these mosques andchurches were there long before teh terrorist state os israel existed, and they are plotting to destroy them all, infact they destroyed a lot already, and burned down mosques and churches...don't give me your none sense
further more, many mosques were closed down and turned into bars and nightclubs, is this the tolerance you're talking about, hypocrite? and turning the aqsa mosque in to an stabel for horses!....i suggest stop being a hypocrite.
Any body (Jew or not ) who has ever been to Israel knows that what you're saying is a complete lie. Not only you could see all these mosques, but you can hear them five times a day starting from early morning screaming out allah-akbar.
I know, no matter how much facts are thrown at your face, you'll still ignore the reality & believe what you were taught to believe.
Your great animosity for Jews will never open your mind. Emotion blocks intellect.
loooooool you're such a joke...another jewish hypocrite who tries to hide israels terrorist acts...a fact is a fact, isreal have destryoed mosques, shot and killed people performing prayers before, burned down many mosques, even graves were not spared...attacked churches, terrorized people from going them...you'er a disgusting liar....and facts remain facts....you hypocrite.
Why are you focusing so much on a so called "Israeli violence against muslims", when throughout the globe muslims can't even get along with each other? Constantly abusing, mistreating and killing their own. If you are such a devout muslim that cares about well-being of their fellow muslims, shouldn't you be criticizing your own people first?
Let me answer you with only one word : HYPOCRITE .
loool you're seriously a piece of shit, is this the best you could come up with? looool typical jewish hypocricy, always changing the subject when you know you're wrong...what we muslims do among ourselves is none of your damn business idiot...we are actually the most people attached to our religion and religious brotherhood.
..going back to THE SUBECT, israel is a terrorist country, with barbaric, savage jews living in it, you have no tolerance towards others, it's not your land in the first place..go back to where you came from you khazar piece of shit..hypocrite.
Come done. Take a deep breath. No need to get all emotional. You gotta THINK, I know its hard for you (not every body was blessed with that ability.)
Being that you are an ANTISEMTE, no matter how many well known facts I present to you will ever change your mind. So, I see no point in continuing this debate.
Palestinians claim to be Arab. Then they claim to be descendents of the Philistines, then they claim to be descendents of the Canaanites. which is it? Philistines were not arab, canaanites were not arab. Palestine was a name given by the romans to spite the jews whom they hated because they knew the ancient conflicts between the Jews and the Philistines. well its been proven that the philistines were using greek fighting tactics and were more than likely greek.
Well done. No one subscribing to MeccaCentric will countenance what you have written, but if there is a thought process still involved somehow, somewhere, perhaps a silent minority might consider an open mind.
i agree that jews are not the original inhabitants of israel, they concurred it from canaanites. but arabs have no claim to this land (arabs or ishmaelites were never part of canaanite nation)
the only nation that would have a claim to israel is the canaanite nation. there is only one little problem, canaanites no longer exist .
Are you stupid or what?!! The Palestinians, whether muslims or christians, are the descendents of the Canaanites...Got it!!! And the Canaanites are the original inhabitants of Palestine, long before the jews existed, and when jews finally got into palestine they stayed in small parts of it as tribes, never controlling it, and didn't even stayed there for a long period. Now you say they have the right to take it back! they never had it in the first place.
says the theologians,historians, and archeologists, and the latter give the factual evidence...you jews are well known for making up history, we're not like you, we go by facts, and there you go again with the canaanites and palestinians! i explained it well, you sure are slow!
You are the one filled with hate, otherwise why would you not accept the facts...i said jews because they are the ones lying about the facts and misleading everyone, they not only brainwashed you in politics, and your own religion, but also in history...i don't hate jews but i'm against Zionism because it is based on lies and racism.I have jewish friends myself, who are against zionism...i'm only trying to explain to you what is really happening.
i will start with Theology and prove that the jews are lying in saying that god promised them the land because this is the main cause. In Deutronomy 18:21 &22 we are told:"And if thou say in thy heart how shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken, when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the lord hath not spoken but the prohpet hath spoken it presumptuously.."
If you beleive in the Bible then this should be a valid test for you. apply it to " And i will give THEE, na thy seed after thee.." The Bible testifies that when Abraham died he did not own one square foot of land, his sons had to burry him in a cave that Abraham had to buy from the sons of Heth, so this proves that this is a false prophecy, God never made such a promise to the jews.
and if you ignore this fact and still beleive that God made such a promise, then the jews are not the only seeds of Abraham, the arab muslims too...so either way you look at it, it doesn't support zionism.
you're the one who didn't get the proof! why can't you use the thing that's in your head called brains & think! Any way, as for other proofs, which i know you won't get, M.B Qumisiyeh's works, who is a zoologist, a systematic & evelutionary biologist & an expert in genetics, that the Palestinians are the original inhabitants of what is now called palestine.
her book: sharing the land of canaan: human rights and the israeli-palestinian struggle, pluto press 2004, (includes chapters on population genetics and environmental sustainability). Also archeologists at Tel Aviv university showed that city states and kingdoms were routinely made and obliterated in the ancient land of Canaan while the natives; the canaanites, survived and continued to live.
You can also read: The invention of Ancient Israel and the silencing of Palestinian History , Routledge, london 1996, by Whitelam K.W. Also, Marcia Kunstel and Joseph Albright, who are archeologists, say that before the hebrews 1st migrated there around 1800 BC, the land of Canaan was occupied by Canaanites, and say that these cananites are the ancestors of the palestinians today, they were mixed with other people, such as the samaritans, greeks, etc but the parent tree was canaanite.
and there are much more studies that back my point but it seems that you realy don't want to know the truth so i won't waste my time with you any more.
If you go by what tour sayin there would be chaos around the world,indigenious peoples trying to reaclaim lands taken over by other peoples through the centuries.
Dont forget the jews WERE NOT the original occupantats of the land,they took it of the cannanites,you cant just create another country thousands of years later and displace people who now own the land.
people were thre before the jews are you saying the have no ancestors left in palestine,ben-gurion was born in poland,(at that time part of the russian empire,he wasnt an israeli,he was jewish,did that give him a right to the land of palestine,simply becuase he was jewish.
so you think that none of thr tribes you mentioned,have no ancestors that exist in palestine,and assimilated with the other tribes that ruled the land through the centuries ? you think the jews are the only survivors with a claim to the land,yeh right !
im an athiest i dont get my facts from the bible,it isnt exactly a fair and balanced point of view,what about the ancestors of the canannites,who will have assimilated into other tribes and nations who have conquered and ruled palestine.
of all these antient nations (canaanite, hitite, emorite, hivite and jebusite) that originaly inhabited "canaan", jews are the only nation that exists to this day.
the original inhabitants of palestine are the cannanites,the jews think they have a divine right to palestine,becuase it was wriiten in the old testament,who wrote the old testament ? jews
also, that same old testament says that original inhabitants were cacaanites. how come when it comes to the jews you question the devinity of the old testament, but when it comes to arabs you suddenly believe old testament
many different tribes and nations have ruled palestine through thousands off years,the land does not beong to the jews,can you imagine what would happen all over the world,if the original peoples ancestors suddenly wanted their land back,i dont see the white americans giving the land back to the native american indians.
just because others have occupied the (what you call) "palestine", does not make the jews loose their right to claim their land back(and fight for it)
but if you're one of those that cant wait for another holocost to happen, than of-course you would not want the jews to have their own country back.
there was another nation that lived in what is now called gasa, that nation was antient philistines. all these nations have long disappeared. note, that these are not the same people that that now call themselves "palistinians". that name was coined on to them since the english took over the land. the now so called palestinians are the refugees from jordan and egypt. they are arabs not palestinians.
arabs never claimed that israel was their holy land until recently. "palestinians" claim it because they were exiled from other arabian countries, arabs claim it is "palestinians" because they dont want them back.
And I'm sure you could provide some evidence against what Dr. Jamal Badawi States? Oh no, never mind, you skip that important piece and jump straight to conclude that's it's Bullshit. My how intelligent you must be.
He never stated anything AGAINST the existence of Jews in Isral, he's actually explaining how Palestinian Arabs have been there ever since along with the Jews; contrary to what the Zionists claim. He's claiming that Arabs are the descendents of Prophet Abraham (which they are by his wife Hagar) therefore if we are to follow the Zionist interpretation of the Taurah, Arabs and Jews both are the children of Abraham making the land both theirs.
when God promised Abraham that his descendents will inherit israel, who do you think God was talking about?
well of-course arabs say it was ishmael.
but if we look further-on in Torah we see that God was talking about the jews (decsendants of Isaac. what do you think was the reason for exodus of the jews from egypt,other than to fulfill the promise given to Abraham by God.
The Arabs that lived alongside the jews converted to Islam- What, now that they converted to a different religion, they are excluded from being the descendents of Abaraham? BS. They've always been there, their descendents are the ones that converted and continued living in land that was theirs.
further more i can understand, ur theology of migrating ethnically into judism, thats fine, but don't deny those who have migrated into islam, truth of it those muslims don't like to admit it, practically all jews and christain jews from semite background became muslim n drop their isreal identity.
historical proof that they are monogolian, archiological ............what?
if some1 whats to believe they are ethnically semite, they will convince themselves, thrithis they aren't. they are originally mongolians who settle in eastern europe n spain and from spain into the arab world, so azkanazi (kazan) n serphasi (spain) jews historically aren't, instead they are killing them in isreal, u really should read.
well what if I come to someones house for refuge, and then afterwards kick him/her out..then, of course that person will be mad and fight to get his house back..common sense..so called "isrealies" did the something..
At least Jews are civilised.I am sick of muslim suicide bombers,muslim plane bombers,muslims in general...THERE SHOULD BE A PILL ON THE MARKET SO THAT ALL THESE MORONS CAN GO TO ALLAH AND BE HAPPY..INSHALLAH
stevevix1 5 months ago
@yahya456 u r d shit coz u r in big, big shit, HELL IS CALLING U, allah the fuckin bastard is burning wit d pervert muhamad HAHAHAHAHAHA
TheJasonking 6 months ago
@yahya456 i think it u that u r livining on camel's cock u all love it u muzlims trash of satan
TheJasonking 7 months ago
@yahya456 i c u r a pirate like yor fuckin mohamad d pervert. and i m no Jew. u r frm somalia last ranked in d world countries, worthless nation
TheJasonking 7 months ago
izlam belongs to satan, allah the bastard is the 666
TheJasonking 7 months ago
YOU CALL god "god" but you get made when we call him Allah. why?
imreadyyo26 8 months ago
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@imreadyyo26 u have no GOD but allah the serial killer
TheJasonking 7 months ago
Yep aha, mercy for your convenience. Do Islam respect women? What does the Koran order to do to those opposing Islam? To kill them, right? That speech is just convenience because the whole religion is bloodier than whatever Israelis have done. How can you believe the Abraham story by convenience? Abraham called God Eli or Jehovah, who are you to change the name to supposedly Allah? God told Abraham his seed was going to inherit Canaan. So why you want to agree that Muslims have right to Israel
936justme 10 months ago
This video is a great example of a lame excuse. Israel is the Jews ancestral homeland, and only a complete fool would think otherwise. The people who lived there before 1948 were largely Christian, and were slaughtered by the muslims who invaded palestine to make war with Israel.
BartofGod 11 months ago
@BartofGod , You are just talking without historycal proves, so your arguments are lame.
ImanSaad88 10 months ago
@BartofGod that might have just been the stupidest, most close-minded, most baseless, and most bigoted comment i've seen in a while.
rawrimaprick 9 months ago
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this guy is a cunt bag
yakov321 1 year ago
It is obvious that the Israelites made leagues with these people and quit fighting. Thus, they violated all conditions set forth by God.
conditions and commandments were not obeyed by the Israelis, Canceling their right to live in Israel, the land is promised to them, but their occupation of the land is against the will of God.
And Samuel said to him, "The LORD has torn the kingdom of Israel from you this day, and has given it to a neighbor of yours, who is better than you." 1Samuel 15:28
kocktoe 1 year ago
@kocktoe I am amazed how people have missed this part of the holy book.
CDRNY25 11 months ago
One question how did the Jews get to europe? when the Romans exiled them into arabia? and into africa? all the passages towards Europe was roman occupied?
Proof of jews being in arabia by alot of numbers is in muhammeds time, so many jewish tribes in arabia?
AdemaLevel 1 year ago
Muslims might be the descendants of Abraham, but!!!!! Hager was kicked out of the tribe of Abraham. Therefore, she is not to be considered one of the 'chosen' people of God. Read it in the Holy Bible...you twit. hehehehe lol lol lol Anyone who knows their Bible knows this man is twisting history to suit his wants. Typical of a Muslim.
SS2762ab 1 year ago
@SS2762ab she wasn't ''kicked'' out, wtf, and Ishmael was blessed by god? he was promised princes and kings by god.
AdemaLevel 1 year ago
@SS2762ab and you think fucking bible is a history book? your an idiot, typical christian
AdemaLevel 1 year ago
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@SS2762ab they follow ishmael but muslims are not descendants of Abraham, its a BIG LIE, like all the shitty coran. izlam belongs to satan, allah the bastard is the 666
TheJasonking 7 months ago
أسأل الله أن يجعلك من أهل الجنــــــــة
zwangsarbeit 1 year ago
Sholmo Sand , Professor of history at Tel Aviv University"[The] chances that the Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Judaic people are much greater than the chances that you or I [meaning Israeli Jews] are its descendents."
Ztnx20 1 year ago 10
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@Ztnx20 wot drugs r u on? izlam belongs to satan, allah the bastard is the 666
TheJasonking 7 months ago
Important studies archived here include the University College London study of 2002, Ariella Oppenheim's study of 2001, Ariella Oppenheim's study of 2000, Michael Hammer's study of 2000, Doron Behar's study of 2008, and others.
showed that
*Ashkenazi is Israelites. Ashkenazim also descend from European peoples such as Slavs and Khazars
Libyan Jews are mainly Israelites who have mixed with Berbers.
Palestinian Arabs are Israelite etc
Ztnx20 1 year ago
This is also she found from her study " about 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool. The geneticists asserted that this might support the claim that Palestinian Arabs descend in part from Judeans who converted to Islam. "
Ztnx20 1 year ago 6
@Ztnx20 source?
Maharyobas 1 year ago
@Ztnx20 Darn, you just contradicted yourself. In one post you are claiming Jews are not Jews and yet in another they and the Palestinians are genetically similar who themselves are said to be descendants of Jews (which is false). Everyone should read the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica and other contemporary reports on Palestine. Palestinians are composed of Greeks, Arabs, Armenians, Turks, Persians, Bosnians, Albanians, Afghans etc..they are not descended from the ancient Judeans.
sugarhitman 11 months ago
Ztnx20; There is no such a reaserch ( -> 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool ). Jews have common genes among themselves and it is close to other inhabitants of ME especialy Kurds.
Salamwamat 1 year ago
@Salamwamat
Hey ignorant scum Salamwamat
We are not interested in your Jewish mythology . I represented a study of Israeli Professor Ariella Oppenheim .
Ztnx20 1 year ago
A Vast majority of Palestinians are descendant of area's original inhabitants (Canaanites)
Results of a DNA study by geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis ((Palestinian 1948)) and Palestinians, together as the one same population, represent modern "descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized."
Ztnx20 1 year ago 5
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The worst part of it is that he probably believes his own ludicrous statements. It is sad also because as long as Jews in Israel face such poor intellectual competition, then it is all too easy.
raphaeljudas 2 years ago
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Genetic study of Palestinians
A study by Arella Oppenheim and her colleagues published in human genetics in showed that about 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool . The genetics asserted that this might support that Palestinian Arabs descend in part from Judeans who converted to islam
P.S I love Palestine , I love Abeer Younes
Ztnx20 2 years ago
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Ztnx20 2 years ago
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And the Muslims of Palestine are not at all expecting the Jews or Christians to migrate, but Authority and government legislations should be RIGHTLY handed over to the Muslims as they had before, thus, Jews and Christians can live peacefully under the Law of the Muslims as they have been for decades.
dcfnfb 2 years ago
I find it hard to believe how many people can support the Zionist and their unjust occupation of the CLEAR land of the Muslims.
Insha Allah we Muslims will RIGHTLY take back what belongs to us.
dcfnfb 2 years ago
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saying its a muslim land is destructive to the palestinian cause, jews can easily say: well, you palestinians can go to any one of these dozen countries they 'own'
montezoma 2 years ago
To say its a Muslim land is not destructive at all because the land 'TRULY' belong to the Muslims and for anyone to hide this FACT will be doing 'injustice' since as we all know the Zionist have STOLEN the land and unjustly taken Authority over the Muslims.
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dcfnfb 2 years ago
dir yassin is half a lie...the egyptions exagurated it to scare other palastinians and then most arabs run away......the arabs who stayed now have an israeli passport and are living in israel having a beter life than most other arabs in other arab states.
arab population in israel is 20% so noone driven them out.
morda8 2 years ago
It is again a Biblican-Quranic reading of history. In truth, there were no "Jews" who came into Canaan at some point, but rather Canaanites who turned to monotheistic faith, some of which became Judaism. There were no Hebrews coming from outside as the Bible suggests but rather Canaanites that lived in the central hill areas and who called themselves 'ivrim (Hebrews), meaning those from the hills. Judaism and Islam both forgot about ancient Hebrew-Canaanite identity.
sachaweb 2 years ago
HAPLOGROUP J2 (M172) Y-DNA
is the "genetic marker" of the ancient "Canaanties and Phoenicians"...
So, that means -- (Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese) who carry this J2 genetic marker are infact modern CANAANITES.
NOTE: The genetic marker J2 of the ancient Canaanites is found within muslims and christian population of the Levant (i.e., Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanians, and Syrians).
For more information on this J2 genetic marker -- please read my (youtube profile).
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PhoenicianGoddess 2 years ago 2
Yes indeed, Jews and Palestinians are the descendants of the SAME NATION!!! The Hebrew-Canaanite language was their tongue and in a very distant past they worship the same gods.
sachaweb 2 years ago
Genetic study of Palestinians
A study by Arella Oppenheim and her colleagues published in human genetics in showed that about 70 percent of Jewish paternal ancestries and about 82 percent of Palestinian Arabs share the same chromosomal pool . The genetics asserted that this might support that Palestinian Arabs descend in part from Judeans who converted to islam
P.S I love Palestine , I love Abeer Younes
Ztnx20 2 years ago
Syed790,
You are lying!
Adultery is legalised by you - MUSLIM LIARS- by introducing islamic tenet known as TEMPORARY MARRIAGE.
My sailor acquaintance told me that sailors are allowed to commit adultery legally by using the TEMPORY MARRIAGE certificate to prevent arrest for committing KALWAT !!!
IN REALITY, you -Muslims- are THE GREATEST MOCKERS OF ALLAH FOR:
1] COVERING ADULTERY USING TEMPORARY MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE;
2] PROCLAIM hypocritically RAMADAN as 12 hours when it is 24 hours.
explaining4u 2 years ago
syed790,
You are LYING for you did NOT provide proofs for the MANY witnesses you claimed!
You claimed that you need 2 witnesses for one that is accused of a crime[of LYING] before one can be put to trial, right?
Muhammad had NOT even 1 eye-witness, WHY THEN DO YOU -MUSLIMS- BELIEVE HIS LYINGS?
WITNESS is one who saw with his eyes to witness an event that happened.
SO YOU -MUSLIMS- HAD I BILLION WITNESSING ALLAH TALKING TO MUHAMMAD LIKE THE TRUE ALLLAH TALKED WITH MOSES?
AMEN
explaining4u 2 years ago
@explaining4u.. DID U SEE GOD TALKING TO MOSES?? Nobody was with him on the mount of Siani when this happened, yet u "believe" Moses!!!
ALSO for the adultery issue & temporary marriages, this is not in sunna islam which is 90% of muslims in the world. I agree with u that it's adultery & the quran itself states so. But dont u have in anything people who deviate?! KABALAHs for example claim they r jews while they do witchcraft!!!! The lies are from such jew who doesnt want to see the truth
ibrahimsssu 1 year ago
@ibrahimsssu
funny you should use the word lies, and what truth is it that those Jews don't want to se could it be the same truth that muslims don't want to se either, Moses did come down the 10 commandments right?
hannahr77 11 months ago
@hannahr77 Yes i believe moses came down with the 10 commandments and he even mentioned a messiah coming after him. ONE EXAMPLE: Check Torah Songs of Solomon 5:16 in the hebrew language where it is talking about the messiah who has black hair and his mouth speaks sweet words (Quran is in a poetic form) and that he is MOHAMAD'im... Can u tell me now who can see and who is blind???
ibrahimsssu 8 months ago
@ibrahimsssu
hmm first of all song of Solomon is not int the Torah it't in the Tanak, and nowhere does it speak of Messiah with black hair and his mouth speaks sweet words, really now you ppl make this up as you go along
song of Solomon 5
16 His mouth is most sweet, Yes, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, And this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem
nice try my dear lost friend but your using taqiyya and that's not lovely
hannahr77 8 months ago
@hannahr77. Ok songs of solomon in the hebrew bible or the old testament (which includes torah, Nevi'im, and ketuvim or miqra or tanakh). it's just a common expression to refer to the hebrew bible (with it's 3 parts) as torah which is only a part of it i know. 5:11 it says "His head is purest gold; his hair is wavy and black as a raven." 5:16 mentions his mouth is sweet (would that rather mean sweet in kissing or says sweet words)?! & it's describing the messiah here, the loved one. U R LOST.
ibrahimsssu 8 months ago
@explaining4u i agree with you Muhammad(pbuh) didnt have 1 witness or 2 or 3 > he had a whole nation behind him
09krymez 1 year ago
@09krymez
really and what nation would that be? let me guess his 1's wife, his 2nd wife, his 3rd wife or 4th wife, muhammad never had a nation, what he had was this a band of highway robbers and bandits, at 1 point he had more wives than followers
hannahr77 11 months ago
@09krymez he had satan witness coz he stuck a deal to serve him for ever, that is why muzlimz are known as satan's army and allah the bastard is the 666
TheJasonking 7 months ago
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traviezo1592 2 years ago
The palestinians were never there.The anciants tribes that were in Canaan were dispersed or inter marry with the Israelites. Just to remind you dear "professor" the Muslims came to palestine 2500 years after the jews ,so why dont you rewrite your speech to say the real facts
sholoborx 3 years ago
"Muslims came to palestine 2500 years after the jews" Is that your argument??? First , he meant that Arabs not the Muslims, but anyway Islam is a faith my friend not a race, so although there weren't any "Muslims" in ancient times, Palestinians of today are the same people who inhabited the land back then but with a new faith.
psychlopes1976 3 years ago
When the Jews came back to Canaan there were seven nations which were setteled there.Those nations were disperesed or intermarry with the jews.The modern Palestinians DO NOT go as far as the time of Abraham.The question is do they have any right to the land ,my answer I hope so.
sholoborx 3 years ago
And where is your proof for that claim if I may ask???? Also, even if it was true (which it isn't) you're claiming Jews have a right to take the land just because their great great ......... great grand fathers owned it. If that was a legitimate claim, then why don't you give the Americas back to the natives? Although I would argue that the native have a stronger case than the Jews. I'm originally from hebron and my family have lived in Palestine for hundreds of years... (continued)
psychlopes1976 3 years ago
How does a Jew from Poland or another from Russia have more claim to the land of my ancestors than me? Because this is what you have right now in Israel, most are either Jews who were originally citizens of other countries, or 1st or maximum second generation Israeli's born to people who were citizens of other countries.
psychlopes1976 3 years ago
Are you making that claim based on verified historic and archeological findings? or just on the authority of bible?. (not being sarcastic though). But if you want to argue (promised land) have to know that Arabs are descendants of Ishmael who was the son of Abraham. So if Abraham and his descendants were promised the land , then we were promised the land as well. You see, Arabs DO go as far back as Abraham.
psychlopes1976 3 years ago
Arabs are not fully Semitic. Jew are. Let me explain. You see, Abraham (who was a Semite), married Sarah ( also a Semite). They had a son named Isaac ( fully Semitic)
On the other hand, 13 yrs before birth of Isaac, Abraham had to marry Hagar (NOT a Semite). From this marriage they had Ishmael. Hagar was Egyptian (who are descendants of Ham son of Noah & bother of Sam).
utroobka 3 years ago
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israel leaves gaza and what it gets back - rockets from gaza and then plenty of criticisms from all over the world about israel's self-defence... the similar thing will occur if israel withdraws from the west bank.
this only shows that by no way israel should not withdraw from the west bank until it is clear that the arabs of the west bank and gaza are peaceful in their intentions. as for now their only desire is the destruction of israel - Jordan is Palestine, it's big enough
zshavit 3 years ago
How can a people colonize their own land? The irony that the indigenous Jews (semites) have been the target of genocide throughout history does not make the so-called Palestinians legitimate. Islamic Arabs are the colonizers, and have been ever since camels, Shariah, and tents began to go out of fashion only during the past eighty years.
As to the influx of European Jews -- they're the only ones left.
30SecondsTokyo 3 years ago
you mean to say interpolated bible you can fine more thatn 50,000 errors in bible as per bible scholars so plse dont be ignorant
tantyatopi 3 years ago
Jews hold that since their semetic origins are of those people whom God "promised" the land to, they deserve the land more than anyone else. But the fact of the matter is that they are NOT the only semetic people, who descend from Abraham or Jacob. They are, in fact, only a particial sect within themselves and within the entirety of the semetic ppl of the world.
gypsy5724 3 years ago
Arabs are not fully Semitic. Jews are. Let me explain. You see, Abraham (who was a Semite), married Sarah ( also a Semite). They had a son named Isaac ( fully Semitic)
On the other hand, 13 yrs before birth of Isaac, Abraham had to marry Hagar (NOT a Semite). From this marriage they had Ishmael. Hagar was Egyptian (who are descendants of Ham son of Noah & brother of Sam).
utroobka 3 years ago
wow u clearly lack a piece of understanding. how about leave ur cacoon where u think everything u say is right regardless of what others can inform u of? it is NOT ONLY a fact form the BIBLE! Muslims follow the QURAN and JEWS follow the (modern) TORAH! Each of these reveals that Abraham was a forefather to the Israelite, SEMETIC group of ppl. Secondly, it is HISTORICALLY SOUND, that Abraham was a forefather to the semetic group of ppl.
gypsy5724 3 years ago
Hey Mr. Intelligent. Let me inform you that there is a book called encyclopedia. There you can look up words, Torah & Koran. To your surprise, (& disappointment) you'll find that Torah is 2000yrs older than Koran, which is contrary to what you believe.
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utroobka 3 years ago
hey stupid guy, first of all, you're not semite, I AM, so quit speaking on MY BEHALF, we all know where you came from, you khazar piece of shit...and i never claimed that moses came after mohammed peace be upon them both...but the torah you have now is fabricated...and the jews never owned palestine, they were not originally from there, they were immegrants.
infonotes 3 years ago
So you're saying that Torah is fabricated. When do suppose they "fabricated" the Torah?
utroobka 3 years ago
attributing incestry, drinking,alcoholism, and more unethical actions to prophets..This is not a book of God, God is above this garbage and filth that you believe in and so is his prophets, men chosen from all mankind carry His message and you attribute such filth and garbage to them...only sick people would take this as a religion.
infonotes 3 years ago
the torah and the whole tanakh is fabricated... there is no proof that what you have is the real and original teachings, unlike the quran, regardless whether you think it is from God or not, you can not deny that what we have today is the exact words the prophet mohammed peace be upon him had spoken since it was preserved and never chaneged, since it was written and documnted down and preserved throuout the years.
infonotes 3 years ago
throughout.
infonotes 3 years ago
Yes, of course, why didn't I think of that before. What could be holier than Koran, the book that teaches people how to kill "infidels".
Islam is truly a religion of peace. Decapitation of journalists, chopping child's hands for steeling an apple, stoning a girl for being raped, forcing women to blow themselves up in a crowded market, using women & children as human shield is a holly & peaceful mission that every honorable muslim should follow.
utroobka 3 years ago
there are no such things in islam loool how ironic that you attribute such things to muslims when isrealis are the ones who kill journalists, children, rape, bomb, and use others including children as human shield...i guess whatever wrong things you do you like to attribute them to others looool .... what a hypocrite loooooool ....i also suggest you read your own holy book and learn these acts from it since it's the best source for this.
infonotes 3 years ago
Utroobka infonotes is right i a Muslim have read the Torah it speaks of Jews ALLOWED to commit crimes against non Jews and refers to non- Jews as gentiles! The Talmund also says Moses raped 3 year old girls which I have read aswell and pfff from a Jewish point of view you would call Muhammed a pedophile?HAH!Hypocrites is what you are. And also ever heard of feudalism or is it just too big of a word for you? Extremists blow themselves up those are called terrorists you buffoon.
P4infulDu3ling 3 years ago
also the rape thing thats things in extremist places who do things that are just stupid like Saudi Arabia and the so called Pakistan "Sharia" Law. Nowhere in the Quran may what you have said EVER be found. And killing infidels? You take things out of context you ignorant fool, those things are to speak about the Islamic battles when the Empire was spreading and that all who attack you , you must fight back. If we are meant to kill infidels why are there so many non-Muslims in Muslim countries?
P4infulDu3ling 3 years ago
Hah! You're JOKE.
By the way, speaking of jokes, let me tell you one.
The joke is about terrorist instructing students on how to detonate a bomb:
An instructor comes in to the class with a bomb belt strapped around his waist. After many unsuccessful attempts on explaining how it works, he decides to demonstrate it. But before he does it he cautions them by telling -"Please pay attention , I can show you only once."
utroobka 3 years ago
Fine live in denial just be ignorant as you are foolish , your loss
screampie755 3 years ago
BTW , i'm P4inful this is just my other youtube account i was on
screampie755 3 years ago
Arabs are not fully Semitic. Jew are. Let me explain. You see, Abraham (who was a Semite), married Sarah ( also a Semite). They had a son named Isaac ( fully Semitic)
On the other hand, 13 yrs before birth of Isaac, Abraham had to marry Hagar (NOT a Semite). From this marriage they had Ishmael. Hagar was Egyptian (who are descendants of Ham son of Noah & bother of Sam).
utroobka 2 years ago
utoobka you idiot...bring me evidence that hagar wasn't semite..this is one of your jewish lies. Hagar was a true Canaanite, i.e.pure semite...you khazar jew, you're not even semite, go back to Russia....bring me one historic ancient jewish thing in jerusalem..do you know anything about mermirite graveyard? stop destoying that grave yard that is more than 4,000 years old...
infonotes 2 years ago
Even according to Islamic sources she was egyptian. Here is two to start with:
1-Fatani, Afnan H. (2006), "Hajar", in Leaman, Oliver, The Qur'an: an encyclopedia, Great Britain: Routeledge, pp. 234236.
2-'Aishah 'Abd al-Rahman, Anthony Calderbank (1999). "Islam and the New Woman/ ﺍﻹﺳﻼﻡ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺮﺃﺓ ﺍﻟﺠﺪﻳﺪﺓ". Alif: Journal of Comparative Poetics (19): 200.
utroobka 2 years ago
these are not islamic sources you idiot loool the writers are not even muslims...there were ppl living in palestine long before the jews migrated to it..and they are the original semites..now you shouldn't be talking about semitisim since you're not one..again, go back to russia.
infonotes 2 years ago
According to Qisas Al-Anbiya, an Islamic collection of tales about the prophets, Hagar was the daughter of the King of Maghreb, a descendant of the Islamic prophet Salih. Her father was killed by Pharaoh Dhu l-'arsh and she was captured and taken as slave. Later, because of her royal blood, she was made mistress of the female slaves and given access to all of Pharaoh's wealth. Upon conversion to Abraham's faith, the Pharaoh gave Hagar to Sarah who gave her to Abraham.
utroobka 2 years ago 2
According to another Islamic tradition, Hagar was the daughter of the Egyptian king, who gifted her to Abraham as a wife, thinking Sarah was his sister.[8] Ishmael's birth to Hagar caused strife between her and Sarah, who was still barren. Abraham brought Hagar and their son to a land called Paran or (Faran in Arabic) which is the land surrounding Mecca, where the angel Gabriel showed him the Ka'aba.
utroobka 2 years ago
lool it's so funny when one reads your stupid book especially when your God yahuwa regrets creating the semites , go back to russia and quit pretending to be a semite.... you're so pathetic...bring me one evidence of any kind of a jewish kingdom in jerusalem or palestine..
infonotes 2 years ago
you won't find any, but you'll find plenty of the canaanite, the history of palestinians , the true inhabitans and semites , not fakes like you...tell me, why do some jews claim that solomons temple was in nablus and others claim that it was in jerusalem looooool ..you'er pathetic liars.
infonotes 2 years ago
The jews make the same claim, that the JEWS are decendants of Abraham and therefore inherit the "promised land". With the Jewish logic, Dr. Jamal Badawi attacks this claim, otherwise, with ur logic, yes, Jews are a religious group, as well as Muslims, and are not all composed of semetic types. The bible is not mentioned when he speaks of descent, it is a known SEMETIC fact that the forefather of the semites is Abraham, whether u be Jew, Christian, or Muslim.
gypsy5724 3 years ago
what r u saying? u dont make any sense. arabs and israelites alike are semetic people, whose ancestor is the forefather Abraham. its an indesputable fact.
gypsy5724 3 years ago
lol, whether or not the bible says it is irrevelant. he is talking about the truth,a dn the truth is that all arabs are semetic and are as a whole decendants of Abraham their forefather. The original Hebrews and the Arabs are in fact one family, they are relatives to each other.
gypsy5724 3 years ago
THIS MAN IS A LAIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!
nelerim 3 years ago
the arabs are the propaganda whores who invent history.
motherfucker arabs.
karkaroff17 3 years ago
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I wonder if he knows that he's lying and is doing it to convince his credulous followers or if he actually believes this crap himself.
TheKaplan 3 years ago
He doesnt lie, you believe in lies and people lie to u. Therefore anything that goes against the lies you believe, u automatically accuse of falsehood.
gypsy5724 3 years ago
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Muslims can live in Israel too, in fact there are Muslims in Israel, so why the huge upset? It's like Jews coping with the Germans after WWII. At least they moved on.
Laurentleflambeur 3 years ago
Laurentleflambeur, the Muslims that live in so called Israel are Palestinians, they had no choice but to have an israeli passport or leave their land and never allowed to come back. The huge fuss is that the Palestinians are the original inhabitants and the israelis stole their land, no one should cope with this injustice.
infonotes 3 years ago
There are mosques and sympathy for Muslims so to me it seems like it's just a petty argument over a name. I know a lot of countries were changed during the Arab revolt, in fact there is no Kurdistan even though there are 20,000,000 Kurds. Another thing about Kurds (my family is Kurdish) in Iraq/Iran/Azerbaijan/Armenia we face a lot of persecution. This in my opinion is also a bad problem, but I don't necessarily think we need a Kurdistan, as long as we are accepted for who we are.
Laurentleflambeur 3 years ago
The mosques were there long before the zionists step foot in Palestine, they did not built them but are plotting to destroy them like they destroyed every other historic sites and buildings that relate to Palestinian history, even graves were not spared. You are only kidding yourself when you say "sympathy for the muslims", do you take me for an ignorant that you can lie to!
infonotes 3 years ago
Have you ever been to Israel?
Israel has so many mosques & churches there. on the other hand go count sinagogues in arabic countries or in gasa. That alone is a proof of jewish tolerance of other religions.
Not only that. islam is only 1400 yrs old. jews were expelled from israel (Judea) 2000yrs ago. How can there be mosques in Israel 2000yrs ago, if islam was not in existence.
utroobka 3 years ago
The Zionists are not semetic people as they claim, they are Khazars, a well known fact, so they have no right to be in Palestine, and have no right to commit mass murder and take out the original inhabitants so that they can stay there.
infonotes 3 years ago
Almost all of islamic nations that are not arabic are the result of forced conversions. Just to name few: Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan & the rest of the stans were given a choice of sword or islam.
So dont give me this none sense.
utroobka 3 years ago
seems that you're ignorant about history...and by the way , you as a jew who supports teh terrorist state of israel should be ashamed and look at yourself...and don't tell me about teh mosques and churches that israel has and is toleratnt about them..these mosques andchurches were there long before teh terrorist state os israel existed, and they are plotting to destroy them all, infact they destroyed a lot already, and burned down mosques and churches...don't give me your none sense
infonotes 3 years ago
further more, many mosques were closed down and turned into bars and nightclubs, is this the tolerance you're talking about, hypocrite? and turning the aqsa mosque in to an stabel for horses!....i suggest stop being a hypocrite.
infonotes 3 years ago
HA-HA-HA!!!!
You must be kidding me.
Any body (Jew or not ) who has ever been to Israel knows that what you're saying is a complete lie. Not only you could see all these mosques, but you can hear them five times a day starting from early morning screaming out allah-akbar.
I know, no matter how much facts are thrown at your face, you'll still ignore the reality & believe what you were taught to believe.
Your great animosity for Jews will never open your mind. Emotion blocks intellect.
utroobka 3 years ago
loooooool you're such a joke...another jewish hypocrite who tries to hide israels terrorist acts...a fact is a fact, isreal have destryoed mosques, shot and killed people performing prayers before, burned down many mosques, even graves were not spared...attacked churches, terrorized people from going them...you'er a disgusting liar....and facts remain facts....you hypocrite.
infonotes 3 years ago
Why are you focusing so much on a so called "Israeli violence against muslims", when throughout the globe muslims can't even get along with each other? Constantly abusing, mistreating and killing their own. If you are such a devout muslim that cares about well-being of their fellow muslims, shouldn't you be criticizing your own people first?
Let me answer you with only one word : HYPOCRITE .
utroobka 3 years ago
Yep, that same word that you like to misuse allot. Some times it helps to look at the mirror before you point fingers.
utroobka 3 years ago
loool you're seriously a piece of shit, is this the best you could come up with? looool typical jewish hypocricy, always changing the subject when you know you're wrong...what we muslims do among ourselves is none of your damn business idiot...we are actually the most people attached to our religion and religious brotherhood.
infonotes 3 years ago
..going back to THE SUBECT, israel is a terrorist country, with barbaric, savage jews living in it, you have no tolerance towards others, it's not your land in the first place..go back to where you came from you khazar piece of shit..hypocrite.
infonotes 3 years ago
Come done. Take a deep breath. No need to get all emotional. You gotta THINK, I know its hard for you (not every body was blessed with that ability.)
Being that you are an ANTISEMTE, no matter how many well known facts I present to you will ever change your mind. So, I see no point in continuing this debate.
utroobka 3 years ago
arabs are supid fucks.....go to your original land called saudi arabia....you fucking sand niggers!
i dont understand the israelis why they playing games with those bloodthirsty fuckers
putinkaaa 3 years ago
y r u so mad take easy on ur heart
jameewoojamal 3 years ago
mashallah! very true!
muslimconvert1122334 3 years ago
Palestinians claim to be Arab. Then they claim to be descendents of the Philistines, then they claim to be descendents of the Canaanites. which is it? Philistines were not arab, canaanites were not arab. Palestine was a name given by the romans to spite the jews whom they hated because they knew the ancient conflicts between the Jews and the Philistines. well its been proven that the philistines were using greek fighting tactics and were more than likely greek.
snappa52 3 years ago 2
Well done. No one subscribing to MeccaCentric will countenance what you have written, but if there is a thought process still involved somehow, somewhere, perhaps a silent minority might consider an open mind.
tkwtkwtkw 3 years ago
agree.......peace.
or should i say it in arabic islam.
state of isreal is a terrorrist state....
they kill alot....in the quran it says who kills 1 human like he killed all man kind..
slimGB 4 years ago
first of all, let me get this straight.
i agree that jews are not the original inhabitants of israel, they concurred it from canaanites. but arabs have no claim to this land (arabs or ishmaelites were never part of canaanite nation)
the only nation that would have a claim to israel is the canaanite nation. there is only one little problem, canaanites no longer exist .
utroobka 4 years ago
so therefore, untill there will be a claim coming from that original nation(canaan), israel should be in the hands of jewish nation
(since jews were there before any OTHER NATION that exist to this day)
utroobka 4 years ago
Are you stupid or what?!! The Palestinians, whether muslims or christians, are the descendents of the Canaanites...Got it!!! And the Canaanites are the original inhabitants of Palestine, long before the jews existed, and when jews finally got into palestine they stayed in small parts of it as tribes, never controlling it, and didn't even stayed there for a long period. Now you say they have the right to take it back! they never had it in the first place.
infonotes 4 years ago
says who? i should take your word for it?
listen, i'm not as ignorant as you are.
i need historical facts and not emotional statements. i need evidence.
also, make up your mind, are they palistinian or canaanite?
utroobka 4 years ago
says the theologians,historians, and archeologists, and the latter give the factual evidence...you jews are well known for making up history, we're not like you, we go by facts, and there you go again with the canaanites and palestinians! i explained it well, you sure are slow!
infonotes 4 years ago
name me a few sources where you get your "facts".
judging by the way you formulate your comments, i can tell that you have great animosity for jews.
that makes me conclude that you get your "facts" from hate preaching mullas or sheikhs.
therefore, your comments are of no use for argument, they are just the result of emotion and not intellect or knowledge.
utroobka 4 years ago
You are the one filled with hate, otherwise why would you not accept the facts...i said jews because they are the ones lying about the facts and misleading everyone, they not only brainwashed you in politics, and your own religion, but also in history...i don't hate jews but i'm against Zionism because it is based on lies and racism.I have jewish friends myself, who are against zionism...i'm only trying to explain to you what is really happening.
infonotes 4 years ago
so, again, name me a few of your sources where you get your "facts".
because i have plenty of historical sources to back up the facts that i present.
utroobka 4 years ago
i will start with Theology and prove that the jews are lying in saying that god promised them the land because this is the main cause. In Deutronomy 18:21 &22 we are told:"And if thou say in thy heart how shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken, when a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the lord hath not spoken but the prohpet hath spoken it presumptuously.."
infonotes 4 years ago
If you beleive in the Bible then this should be a valid test for you. apply it to " And i will give THEE, na thy seed after thee.." The Bible testifies that when Abraham died he did not own one square foot of land, his sons had to burry him in a cave that Abraham had to buy from the sons of Heth, so this proves that this is a false prophecy, God never made such a promise to the jews.
infonotes 4 years ago 2
and if you ignore this fact and still beleive that God made such a promise, then the jews are not the only seeds of Abraham, the arab muslims too...so either way you look at it, it doesn't support zionism.
infonotes 4 years ago
how does that verse prove your point?
why are you quoting biblical passages that you dont even understand?
dont give me that "RELIGIOUS i say you say" stuff.
show me historical and archiological evidence that support your claim of "palestinians" being the decendents of canaanite nation.
utroobka 4 years ago
you're the one who didn't get the proof! why can't you use the thing that's in your head called brains & think! Any way, as for other proofs, which i know you won't get, M.B Qumisiyeh's works, who is a zoologist, a systematic & evelutionary biologist & an expert in genetics, that the Palestinians are the original inhabitants of what is now called palestine.
infonotes 4 years ago
her book: sharing the land of canaan: human rights and the israeli-palestinian struggle, pluto press 2004, (includes chapters on population genetics and environmental sustainability). Also archeologists at Tel Aviv university showed that city states and kingdoms were routinely made and obliterated in the ancient land of Canaan while the natives; the canaanites, survived and continued to live.
infonotes 4 years ago
You can also read: The invention of Ancient Israel and the silencing of Palestinian History , Routledge, london 1996, by Whitelam K.W. Also, Marcia Kunstel and Joseph Albright, who are archeologists, say that before the hebrews 1st migrated there around 1800 BC, the land of Canaan was occupied by Canaanites, and say that these cananites are the ancestors of the palestinians today, they were mixed with other people, such as the samaritans, greeks, etc but the parent tree was canaanite.
infonotes 4 years ago
and there are much more studies that back my point but it seems that you realy don't want to know the truth so i won't waste my time with you any more.
infonotes 4 years ago
If you go by what tour sayin there would be chaos around the world,indigenious peoples trying to reaclaim lands taken over by other peoples through the centuries.
Dont forget the jews WERE NOT the original occupantats of the land,they took it of the cannanites,you cant just create another country thousands of years later and displace people who now own the land.
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
Not all jews were forced out by the Romans,some stayed theough the centuries through the different rulers that had conquered the land.
If a man came to my house and said my ancestors stayed here 2000 years ago and i want it back,doesa that give him the right to my home and land ?
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
so, according to what you're saying, all the properties that nazi-germans stole from the jews durring ww2 rightfully belong to germans.
if a man came to the house which your grandparents stole from his grandparents, then that man has the right to claim this house back.
just because there had been a certain time-lap since the comitted crime, does not make that crime disapear
utroobka 4 years ago
people were thre before the jews are you saying the have no ancestors left in palestine,ben-gurion was born in poland,(at that time part of the russian empire,he wasnt an israeli,he was jewish,did that give him a right to the land of palestine,simply becuase he was jewish.
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
jews did not leave israel willingly, they where forced out of that land by romans.
just because a jew is born outside of israel does not make him loose the right to go back to the land of his ancestors.
utroobka 4 years ago
jews are the only people from that land, that exist to this day as a NATION. none of those above mentioned tribes exist as a nation.
there is ABSOLUTELY no evidence of any kind (historical or archiological) that support arabs claim of "palestinians " being one of those nations.
on the contrary, there is plenty of archiological and historical proofs that support the jewish claims.
utroobka 4 years ago
so you think that none of thr tribes you mentioned,have no ancestors that exist in palestine,and assimilated with the other tribes that ruled the land through the centuries ? you think the jews are the only survivors with a claim to the land,yeh right !
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
im an athiest i dont get my facts from the bible,it isnt exactly a fair and balanced point of view,what about the ancestors of the canannites,who will have assimilated into other tribes and nations who have conquered and ruled palestine.
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
atheist or not, fact is a fact.
and the fact is that canaanites no longer exist.
of all these antient nations (canaanite, hitite, emorite, hivite and jebusite) that originaly inhabited "canaan", jews are the only nation that exists to this day.
utroobka 4 years ago
the original inhabitants of palestine are the cannanites,the jews think they have a divine right to palestine,becuase it was wriiten in the old testament,who wrote the old testament ? jews
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
so let the canaanites fight for their land. not the arabs.
utroobka 4 years ago
also, that same old testament says that original inhabitants were cacaanites. how come when it comes to the jews you question the devinity of the old testament, but when it comes to arabs you suddenly believe old testament
utroobka 4 years ago
many different tribes and nations have ruled palestine through thousands off years,the land does not beong to the jews,can you imagine what would happen all over the world,if the original peoples ancestors suddenly wanted their land back,i dont see the white americans giving the land back to the native american indians.
xxalankennedyxx 4 years ago
very lame argument
just because others have occupied the (what you call) "palestine", does not make the jews loose their right to claim their land back(and fight for it)
but if you're one of those that cant wait for another holocost to happen, than of-course you would not want the jews to have their own country back.
utroobka 4 years ago
very lame argument
just because others have occupied the (what you call) "palestine", does not make the jews loose their right to claim their land back(and fight for it)
but if you're one of those that cant wait for another holocost to happen, than of-course you would not want the jews to have their own country back.
utroobka 4 years ago
arabs did not live alongside the jews in antient years, other nations did (jebusites, hitites and etc), and only under the judean or israels rule.
utroobka 4 years ago
there was another nation that lived in what is now called gasa, that nation was antient philistines. all these nations have long disappeared. note, that these are not the same people that that now call themselves "palistinians". that name was coined on to them since the english took over the land. the now so called palestinians are the refugees from jordan and egypt. they are arabs not palestinians.
utroobka 4 years ago
arabs never claimed that israel was their holy land until recently. "palestinians" claim it because they were exiled from other arabian countries, arabs claim it is "palestinians" because they dont want them back.
utroobka 4 years ago
that is the biggest bullshit i have ever heard!
what do you expect from followers of
muhammed piss be upon him
utroobka 4 years ago
if bullshit is truth than its bullshit.
imadhurata 4 years ago
how can bullshit be truth (unless you're islamo-facist)
it's like saying:if black is white, than white is black.
utroobka 4 years ago
And I'm sure you could provide some evidence against what Dr. Jamal Badawi States? Oh no, never mind, you skip that important piece and jump straight to conclude that's it's Bullshit. My how intelligent you must be.
(S.A.R.C.A.S.M)
Dream423 4 years ago
and what evidence does he have against historically & archiologically proven 3500 years of jewish existance in the holly land?
utroobka 4 years ago
He never stated anything AGAINST the existence of Jews in Isral, he's actually explaining how Palestinian Arabs have been there ever since along with the Jews; contrary to what the Zionists claim. He's claiming that Arabs are the descendents of Prophet Abraham (which they are by his wife Hagar) therefore if we are to follow the Zionist interpretation of the Taurah, Arabs and Jews both are the children of Abraham making the land both theirs.
Dream423 4 years ago
now that you mention the Torah (jewish bible).
let me ask you this:
when God promised Abraham that his descendents will inherit israel, who do you think God was talking about?
well of-course arabs say it was ishmael.
but if we look further-on in Torah we see that God was talking about the jews (decsendants of Isaac. what do you think was the reason for exodus of the jews from egypt,other than to fulfill the promise given to Abraham by God.
utroobka 4 years ago
and arabs claims are not legitimate.
their religion is about 1500 years old. they cant claim it 2000 years after the jews have already lived in that land.
utroobka 4 years ago
The Arabs that lived alongside the jews converted to Islam- What, now that they converted to a different religion, they are excluded from being the descendents of Abaraham? BS. They've always been there, their descendents are the ones that converted and continued living in land that was theirs.
Dream423 4 years ago
further more i can understand, ur theology of migrating ethnically into judism, thats fine, but don't deny those who have migrated into islam, truth of it those muslims don't like to admit it, practically all jews and christain jews from semite background became muslim n drop their isreal identity.
imadhurata 3 years ago
historical proof that they are monogolian, archiological ............what?
if some1 whats to believe they are ethnically semite, they will convince themselves, thrithis they aren't. they are originally mongolians who settle in eastern europe n spain and from spain into the arab world, so azkanazi (kazan) n serphasi (spain) jews historically aren't, instead they are killing them in isreal, u really should read.
imadhurata 3 years ago
very good vidio
mrpistol77 4 years ago
Peace process?PIECE of shit,that's what we have because of this "palestinians" and arabs intellectuals,leaders and arafats.
Historically we are first here so palestinians must come back to Aravia,and pece be upon them all.This will solve almost all the problem.
kiril1 4 years ago 2
well what if I come to someones house for refuge, and then afterwards kick him/her out..then, of course that person will be mad and fight to get his house back..common sense..so called "isrealies" did the something..
moizsq 4 years ago