Bush Speech at CPAC Urges Support for GOP Nominee

[katoanga]

And don't worry, I'm not here to score points. I'll reply to anything else tomorrow. Keep on dialoging with conservatives! Take care.

[katoanga]

My question to you on your charges over the war is this: Agree with going to war or not... now that we're in where we are, where do we go from here? That is the question our children will be asking. Moral or not, how we react to where we are is the most important question that faces us today.

[ArtisticGuitarist]

Dennis Kucinich has a plan to get ALL TROPS & PRIVATE CONTRACTORS OUT NOW, but war profiteers & corrupt govt. controlled media won't allow him a public voice. Our next RIGGED ELECTION is well underway. PEACE, LOVE & REVOLUTION!

[mpalkstuff529]

RON PAUL AND KUCINICH 08

[katoanga]

and by the way, What does the bush family helping out Hilter have to do with my case about what people can become in America? And why would I care that Hitler was helped by Bush's grandfather? I judge people on a person-by-person basis.

[ArtisticGuitarist]

Is that what you are doing with broad sweeping terms like LIBERAL & LEFT? Person by person? When people are refered to as illegals, is that ok? We are a country of treaties, including THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS - 1948. All Republicans should be ashamed. America is run by a facist DICTATORSHIP & our DEMOCRACY is a big giant fraud. What ever happened to WE THE PEOPLE?

[whoa61594]

oh. my. lord.

how can you actually say that?

democrats suggest closing down radio stations because they dont agree with what they think.

i dont know about you, but id call that communism.

[ArtisticGuitarist]

FORTUNE Monday, March 18, 2002

By Melanie Warner

The Carlyle Group, a Washington, D.C., buyout firm, is one of the nation's largest defense contractors. It has billions of dollars at its disposal and employs a few important people. Maybe you've heard of them: former Secretary of State Jim Baker, former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci, and former White House budget director Dick Darman. Wait, we're just getting warmed up.

[ArtisticGuitarist]

William Kennard, who recently headed the FCC, and Arthur Levitt, who just left the SEC, also work for Carlyle. As do former British Prime Minister John Major and former Philippines President Fidel Ramos. Let's see, are we forgetting anyone? Oh, right, former President George Herbert Walker Bush is on the payroll too.

The firm also has about a dozen investors from Saudi Arabia, including, until recently, the bin Laden family. Yes, those bin Ladens

(for those unfamiliar with Carlysle)

[ArtisticGuitarist]

PLUS...

Bush is guilty of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. He lied his way into an illegal WAR OF AGGRESSION & murdered hundreds of thousands (maybe a million) innocent people FOR PROFIT. Including but not limited to our troops. He is a shameful disgrace to our country. PEACE

[katoanga]

Mistaken? Sure. I don't think he lied. I don't think we went in there to own their oil. To protect and stabilize the worlds supply of energy? Maybe, i've heard many from John Hopkins university make that case. I think it was mainly idealism. Bush is part of the PNAC, and so is wolfowitz, Crystol, and Kagan

[ArtisticGuitarist]

Let's talk about the CURRENT relationship between the BUSH & BIN LADEN families. If you don't care that the Bush family helped Hitler, then this probably isn't a problem either, but since you want dialogue, maybe you would like to give me your take on THE CARLYSLE GROUP.

[katoanga]

We've discussed Carlysle when I used to be a Foreign Policy major. Big business will sell their mothers for a profit if they could. They are are rarely ever moral, mainly amoral when their not being immoral. Special treatments.

I think McCain or Obama would deal with this very well. There is corruption and it needs to be dealt with. But you brought these things up, and I'm just deconstructing Liberal Logic.

[mpalkstuff529]

RON PAUL 08

[Matt482942]

well that didnt turn out as planned. :-P

[katoanga]

Plus:

If my grandfather was Hitler, I'm not sure I would walk around feeling all guilty for anything. I would be saddened by his choices and feel for the survivors and their family. but the man lived in another time, he lived another life, and has nothing to do with the choice I have: where do I go from here... People who are disgusted by their linage and kill themselves are selfish. You can work to do good things in the world and write your own chapters.

[ArtisticGuitarist]

Nazi

[katoanga]

That is what I dislike about the Liberal Left. Simple one or two worded dismissals... Sexist Racist Islamophobic Homophobic Xenophobic Imperialist Bigoted Intolerant Nazi Fascist _________ (Swear word of choice) Simple dismissals that end dialog ... Why?

[ArtisticGuitarist]

Thanks for elaborating, but one word sums it up. All of those other words do apply, but I would prefer WAR CRIMINAL, TRAITOR, THEIF & TERRORIST. But Nazi is really sufficient. PEACE

[katoanga]

Well, sure, you can say that. My only question is why with the simple worded dismissals... And how does one reply to such a charge as a "nazi"... Americans view Nazi's as socialistic fascist dictators who murdered millions for an elitist academically-supported ideology. We don't have that in America. When you excuse bush as a Nazi, you don't have to talk to him or others who support him. It ends dialog.

Agree or disagree, I prefer we kept talking and discussing these issues.

[ArtisticGuitarist]

Apperantly that one word - NAZI - has sparked a conversation. We can now converse about G.W Bush' grandfather Prescott Bush helping Hitler. That's historical fact & has nothing to do with being the proud LIBERAL that I am.

[katoanga]

Im not sure that it matters much: we are not a honor versus shame society like most countries who hold an old-world view, we are a right versus wrong one where blood doesnt matter much(if any at all..). You can be a millionaire or famous or become something different then what your father was, regardless of your bloodline...

[eesloan4]

haha it puts money in the hand of consumers by taking their money and handing less than it took, back to them....now that is conservative! bush is as conservative as he is black

[westernillstud]

Im scared...people are so easily bought

[Turquoisevoice]

Vladimir putin recently labeled Bush as a Madman running around, threatening people with a razorblade ...

[arbelm1]

putin should be the last person giving opinion about bush. he better explains the dictatorship he has created in his country,he can explain the missing and murdered hournalists and authors,he can talk about his deals with Iran and so forth.Nobody gives a fuck what Puring/KGB thinks

[katoanga]

arbeim1: I sort of agree with you.

There's nothing wrong with Putin giving an opinion on Bush.

Putin's comments just don't carry much weight... if any at all, and it comes at the cost of his own credibility. Because... (view Arbeim1's reasons listed above.)

[sofladude77]

CPAC the only place where Bush has a high approval rating!!

[devknob]

fuck this asshole

[Carlitos1010]

The Anti-American.

[katoanga]

Great Video.