I always get the feeling Prince went above his station in his changes. Maybe Kate is happy with what the final product became but there's this impression that Prince just went OTT and didn't really respect it as HER song.
the organ sound in this is pure prince, and the percussion in the verse.... Its hard to believe he had no influence on this version although i'm well aware that the tale is well documented now. Maybe she wrote with him in mind? Just saying is all.
I always assumed from listening to the lyrics that they were possibly about Del. But this demo's lyrics tell me of a different story. She sings "you should not speak of it, you should not think it even, because it is forbidden". Forbidden. This isn't about a new found love for the Jesus she sings of with his "beautiful smile", this is about a new love that has taken her completely by surprise, all-consuming and relentless. This can only be about one person... I hope he loves you as much Kate.X
WONDERFULL! So much better than that re-make of 'Deeper Understanding.' I guess 'The Sesual World' is an album I loved when it was first released. I don't like it being tampered with. It was great on it's own.
This is absolutely AMAZING. Cannot believe i have only just found this. So much more beautiful than the album version. Although to give him credit the version with Prince stands on it own too.
This stands alongside the best of Dylan + Lennon. Hauntingly + addictively beautiful especially in the 2nd half. A true work of art (sadly cheapened in the final version). Go it yourself, Kate!
Prince ruined this beautiful Kate's song. Thank you for the ability to hear the original. I heard, Kate plans to reissue "The Red shoes" album. Hope she will throw out cutted-mixed-drummed by Minnesota "genius" version.
The way it's being told on here, it sounds as though Prince and KB were practically having a Harry Hill-style fight; 'Now I like the Trio, but I also like this other bit...'
Love this version...I wish I knew about it when I owned "The Red Shoes" cassette (yes it was that long ago)...I am a Prince fan,but I have to say there is that certain "Kate" something he didn't consider when he altered/remade this song.I think he is just too full of himself...Kate is a world famous songwriter/singer,and has worked on who knows how many projects...who's to say who's actually more successful,but I can wager who's the more classy,and the better for it....
now i heard both i love them both .. i love Prince he is amazing true artist .. and Kate is truly Amazing artist too .. and i like them both !! Prince just faster pace... i love them both ...
I may be alone but I really love the album version that Kate did with Prince & Lenny Henry. It was different to anything else she had done before & I still believe it to be one of the highlights of 'The Red Shoes' album. All the key elements (here) are in the song but Prince takes it to another level. I'm not saying it's better but it is extraordinary and it is beautiful & it shows that Kate is adaptable, eager to experiment & grow.
This is one of my favourite KB songs - I like what Prince did to it although I'm sure it was only partly him. This version is interesting, but not as tight
wow, even with such a dodgy back rhythm and bontempi style organ :0) Kate at her best, so deep and emotional, superb. Let's hope she hasn't given up on releasing more music. Thanks for this
With this demo, Prince had the foundations of a masterpiece to work on... and he blew it. Just listen to Kate's voice, especially 2:55-3:05, so much emotion, but Prince chose instead to 'funk' it up, or fu*k it up - you decide.
yes, almost the best thing she'd done since Hounds Of Love at that tme n my opinion. wonderful stuff, just the sound of drums and keyboards is what she should have pursued more. the repeating keyboard melody is great. I also went off her voice abit after Hounds Of Love - on that album it was absolutely perfect but her voice seemed to change after the classic Experiment IV. which is bound to happen I suppose. thanks
@toddwquigley Well I felt a change in the sound of her voice and singing style from 85/86 to the way she sounded on The Sensual World, but it's a purely subjective judgement. And that's natural I suppose, performers get older, try new things & aren't going to sound the same for their entire career. I might describe Hounds Of Love as a more icy vocal perhaps? (but still very beautiful), in comparison with The Sensual World where I felt more emotional warmth coming into her vocals. Cheers
makes me think that kate Bush didnt have enough confidence in her genius at this point in her career and that she over fussed due to alack of confidence on the red shoes and the sensual world albums. glad to see if came back with aerial though.
Prince did make a mistake... This one is far superior. Prince's is vulgar, he simply didn't understand the Bulgarian choir like choir and treated it like a funny little accessory. I'm not saying he's not worthy of admiration for everything else, only that Kate is just too much.
Thank you for posting! It's so rare to hear an unfinished demo from Kate. I always thought that she recorded her songs directly onto tape at her home studio; that her "demos" eventually evolved into her finished songs. The vocals on this version are wonderful but obviously not meant to be the finished product - maybe just guide vocals?
This makes me wonder if she has any other unfinished songs or alternate versions with extra lyrics lying around in her studio. We will probably never know!
this song and the whole site is not what we normally get on you tube; asides, Kate should work like this on her own and forget conventionality, this sounds like her earlier works, unsettling, beautiful, Amazing and totally original. Kate, if you ever read this, David Sylvian is still challenging us ( 'Manafon') , You are far more than just capable of startling us all over again!! LOVE-PEACE.
I like Prince but can see just how much he fucked this song up.
This version's so amazing as it is, why'd he have to drop so much of the lyrics, and why did she let him? We had to wait for Ariel for her to finally fulfil singing like a Blackbird.
This version just blows me away. It really never needed the funk.
Well, there are actually 3 versions - this one, the final one and whatever Prince made and sent to Kate. We've never heard Prince's fully funked version, and it's unlikely to ever come out.
Thanks for the info. That album track never worked for me and now I know why after hearing this original version. Lenny Henry didn't help the track either. It was too heavy and buried in over-productiion. Michael Koppelman, Prince's engineer said "Gods knows I've begged her to let me record or mix something for years (that's what I do for a living). My wish came true when I worked on Why Should I Love You? when I worked for Prince, but I hated what he did to that song so much it killed me."
Pt 1: "It's funny because Prince was a huge KB fan. He was too, but not like me. The first time I asked him if he liked Kate Bush he said, "she's my favourite woman". I also made him a tape of all the KB b-sides, which fucking rule. When the Sensual World came out he had someone go and get it and we listened to it in the studio. He didn't dig it that much, but I knew you can't always tell right away with a Kate album. TSW grew on me, but it is still not her best effort."
Pt 2: "This Woman's Work is a masterpiece, though,
and makes the whole album worth it. But I digress. Prince is weird, and a couple stories in this post prove it. I may be tooting my own horn here, but Prince has a weird ego. I think *part* of his motivation to work with
Kate was the fact that I worshipped her, and he knew it would impress me that he could call her on the phone and work on her music and shit."
Pt 3: "ANYWAY, what led up to the phone conversation above: one day Prince's assistant, Therese, told me as we were talking on the phone that Kate Bush had called. Therese also knew I was a big Kate fan. Then, in the studio that day, Prince said, guess who I talked to today. Me, being stupid and
unable to keep my mouth shut, said, "Kate Bush?" Prince got a little miffed, and said "How did you know that?" And I said Therese told me, and he said,
tried to say, no, she just knew I'm a big fan. As a side note, I told Therese that Prince was a little pissed that she had told me that, and she apologized to him. Therese is a really cool person. So, Prince tells me
that he and Kate are going to work on a tune together. He also told me that while they were talking he told her that his engineer would rather work with her than him. (I thought, Wow! Prince and Kate Bush talking
Pt 5: "ANYWAY, Eventually the phone call above occured and the tapes arrived and I put them up and got a rough mix up. I still have a cassette of it. It fucking rules. It is 1 million times better than the lame disco Prince put on it. There was, of course, no disco on it before Prince got his hands on it. So Prince comes in and listens to it. And the brutality
Pt 6: "First we sampled the drum thing and synced it up to my Powerbook so we could do MIDI. At that point, we essentially created a new song on a
new piece of tape and then flew all of Kate's tracks back on top of it. So now we could run the sequencer and add all the keyboards that Prince put on. So Prince stacked a bunch of keys, guitars, basses, etc, on it and then went to sing background vocals."
Pt 7: "When Prince does vocals, he sits right at the recording console with a microphone hanging over it and does his own punching in and out. So he kicks everyone out of the room when he sings. It took him a few hours and then he called me back in and played me the thick, multi-tracked background vocals he had put on. Now, as we all know, the song in question goes "Of all the people in the world why should I love you?"
Pt 8: "When Prince called me back in and played me what he had done, he had sung "All of the people in the world", instead of Of All. I said, "Isn't it OF all the people in the world? Not ALL of?" He said, "No, we had a little talk about that", in his cocky way, as if to say he had talked with Kate about changing the words to "all of" instead of "of all".
Pt 9: The next day, I was waiting at my hotel room for the call to go to the studio when the assistant engineer, Sylvia Massy, called and said Prince was in the studio doing vocals. I was surprised; I was always called well in advance of Prince going into the studio. When I got there he was changing all the vocals to "Of All", and was sampling them in himself, which is something he would normally never do himself."
Pt 10: "My interpetation? He made a mistake, as humans do, and didn't have the guts to admit it. That's weird. So I sorta poked my head in at one point and asked him if he needed any help, and we went on with the day. Eventually he had me do a rough mix, and when he had approved it, we sent it to Kate.
I got a call from Therese a few days (or weeks, I forget) later. She said, "Kate Bush said to destroy all copies of that mix"
Pt 11: "I said, "Huh? Did she not like it or something?" (my heart rejoiced, because I hated what Prince did to it). She said, "I don't know, she just said to destroy them". Later on Prince told me, "Kate Bush
liked what we did. She said it sounded very American". So at that point I wasn't sure if she was even going to use it. We sent the tapes back and
she sort of split the difference with what he sent and what's on the record."
Pt 13: "DISCLAIMER: The above is my perception of what occured. I was there, and thats what I thought of it. I did not intend to invade anyones privacy, nor have I signed a non-disclosure agreement with any of the parties mentioned. I also want to add that I truly enjoyed my years working for Prince, but the man treats people as if he thinks he is actually better
than them, like hes royalty or something, and that makes it hard to look back on working with him fondly."
Shit, you're right. I'm not normally a stickler for so many facts, but I did find the story funny and interesting. Anyway, I only dragged and didn't type out each individual word so I maybe have a little life to speak of ;)
Well, I like both versions, BUT I can see where Prince cut what he did. I'm a longtime Prince fan and artist myself, and to me this song contains two songs; the one with the almost Shakespearean beat to it and the ballad. Prince took out the ballad-y parts and proceeded to hone out the beat to make it have a cohesive, flowing harmony.
It was given to Prince! What he was he gonna do with it but add the funk! It's what he does! Blame Kate's team not Prince!
This demo is awesome and better than Prince's version, but then why did Kate's team give it to Prince? If you have a subtle flower, you don't give it to a master gardener and say "see what you can do with this!"
I think what she had in mind was a few gospel touches like Purple Rain or maybe like Diamonds and Pearls.
Apparently Kate sent Prince instructions about what she wanted and he didn't do what she asked, which is why she had to get Lenny Henry in to patch up the vocal.
Prince doesn't just do funk, he does a wide range of styles.
Also, in the account I read, Prince approached Kate about collaboration, not the other way round.
i'm an early fan of kate, i was 12 when wuthering heights were released and i fell in love...
the red shoes is my least favorite albums, and why should i love you one of my least favorite songs of kate... but this version is sooo much "kater" than the LP version... why the hell did she ruined it on the album ?????
I'm sorry if this offends anyone,but the only version I ever knew of this song (which came out on the 'Red Shoes' album) was the Prince edited version...I'm thrilled,years later to hear this version,and wonder why Prince cut out such crucial lyrics as "If I could sing like a Blackbird,just like my heart was filled with Summer,"Such a beautiful image...I'm happy that someone posted this version, and I found out what I was missing....
Just incredible, even unfinished. I'm so happy to be on planet Bush. "The gray of the ghost/the L of the lips are open to the O of the Host..." Gorgeous.
This is a beautiful song, i love the melody, and the words, prince has took away the emotion on the song, but his mix was not to bad, but i feel she didnt need prince
Again, this is NOT a finished song, it was a rough mix of the multi-tracks that she sent to Prince for his input. Read the story linked in the comments to get all the information.
It's not buyable. It's never been offered for sale. As explained in the text box to the right of the video (which nobody ever seems to read) this version was released by a former engineer for Prince.
Of course some sleeze probably has downloaded this track and is selling it on CD at record fairs.
When I heard this track (Prince's Production)for the first time I found myself listening to the intro on repeat because the melodic hook in the beginning was so rich and beautiful. I really couldn't stand the chorus in comparison to the baroque style choir and organ. Prince drowned out the richness of this melody with gaudy synth, percussion, and guitar licks. It sounded like the meeting of the minds was really competition of styles;one clearly Prince and the other Kate Bush.
This is so unbelievably fantastic, you have made my day. Kate is a genius, and the Red Shoes is one of my favourite, and one one of the greatest albums of all time. Her voice breaks my heart, and heals it, all in a note.
This is great but it definitely doesn't work as a finished product....the album version is a bit overproduced, but that's a kate thing just as much as it's a prince thing......almost sounds like it could've gone on Sensual World here, too bad it lost that texture.....as far as demos go check out babushka.....
Thank you for sharing this. How beautiful. Kate Bush is master word smith; she is a composer, weaving notes around the words perfectly. And her soprano, at once so lyrical and poignant.
If this were released, surely the public would be grateful.
Wow. This is fantastic. I've always loved "Why Should I Love You," but couldn't help but feel like particular elements were lacking. Much of the lyrical content here should've been left attached to the album version, in my opinion. I also prefer her vocal performance here..she sounds rather bored on the official record, but again, that's my opinion.
agree, that version of Prince making on that is OK, but this is somehow nicer I think, somehow more Kathy's heart in it. I loved always "Why should i love you?" as the Prince's version, but hearing this, I attach more to this version. have you heard "Sexual healing" performed by Kate? So nice, its like some angels choir to that sexual song, Kathy makes love even from porn ;)
have you ever seen the picture of jesus laughing....? he had a beautiful smile... a smile that healed.... :))))
i remember that i get to kate bush when i was just smoking pots,when i smoked the first marihuana, and that is why this music is for me like if was played when i was born.... by the first steps of mine...
i love it, would love a version on cd or uploadable version... show that even in demo version kate is still one of the most talented singer / songwriters on the planet
The track comes to us courtesy of Prince's old engineer who much preferred Kate's original version. We've never heard the version that Prince sent back to Kate - and neither have you. There was this version, then the version that Kate pieced back together from what Prince did. So you really have no idea is Prince "turned the track round" or not.
I've seen Prince in concert and own a number of his albums. Kate met Prince backstage at one of his concerts, and she wanted to work with him. She wrote this version, and sent the multi-track tape to Prince. The engineer, Michael Koppelman, made this rough mix. Prince took it all apart, and made something completely different, and it took Kate and her engineer Del Palmer two years to create the final version.
I've added a link in the comments section to Koppelman's own words about this.
you should probably remove any names, as far as sources....Prince is not a big fan of youtube or leaked material.....and can be a jerkface about lawsuits.....appreciate that this is posted and it's kates, but i think it better to play it safe
This one has a cool, yet strange feel to it. I know the one with her and Prince but I thought it was "Untitled". I was going through a lifechanging heartbreak @ the time and got rid of all those songs. I would like to hear that version again so if someone could upload it I was be grateful
When this woman passes away,the country is going to get hit really hard.I don't think enough people appreciate her.I dont think she respects how much we appriciate her for what she has done for music,and inspiration.
Your comment has just chilled me. I've listened to Kate Bush since 1978, and I can't imagine such a thing, inevitable as it is. You're so right. The mourning...well, I can't write any more, I'm already tearing up.
Aint she just great !. lovely vocal. She's really playing with the ideas - what a joy to hear such a young song. I'm not sure that kate would really just roll over and let someone else -even the talent of Prince do something to a song she did not want or like in some way and then release it. This song version would really be at odds with the rest of the red shoes in style. it's still great though. thanks
WOW! Thank you so much for uploading this! I'm in awe of Kate's vocals here, even if they are only guide vocals as someone said, they're still damn good.
"If I could sing like a blackbird, just like my heart was filled with summer", looks like Kate was thinking about Aerial even in 1993. I like the album version, but this just blows it out the water, this is Kate at her best.
Great version -- I like it much more than the album version. I can't believe she left out the best melodic part, AND the best lyrics ("If I could sing like a blackbird...")! Still, I guess it must have been closer to what she wanted had in mind. I don't dislike Prince, but think this song is a lot better without him.
That was cute! I like the album version more. Me being a Prince fanatic, it's more exciting and unique. Not as if this isnt, but the middle kinda drags on and the climax was great. This verion is PURE KATE though...untouched. To be honest with you though, I dont know if I would have paid this song any attention if it wasnt for P.
I have to think that is the TRIO, most definitely! I thought I would not be able to hear this and here it is! OH MY GOSH! This is soooooo damn awesome!! Thank you for posting this!!! Just beautiful!
Wow - thanks for posting. Kate's voice is so much more emotional here than on the album version. The Trio's vocals are amazing - esp. at 4:00 - it's so nice to finally hear them so clearly.
I honestly don't think that is the Trio, but rather Kate's rough version of what she wanted the Trio to do when they got together. This is a rough mix of the 24 track tape Kate had sent to Prince, and it was a two full years before the song was completed, and normally vocals come fairly late in the production of a song. So I'm pretty confident that these are "guide" vocals.
I think you are right about those being Kate's bv's at 4:00; they are beautiful.
btw, I always thought the "Lenny Henry" part on the original WSILY was Kate's own voice, just distorted into a lower register. (That's what I thought when I first heard it, and it still sounds strangely processed to me.) I know, I know, it's def. LH singing, and I haven't heard his voice elsewhere so I can't really judge, I'm just sayin' ...
Lenny Henry can be seen introducing Kate performance of "Experiment IV" when she performed it on "Wogan".
The processing might be AutoTune, or some other electronic pitch-correction system. Lenny Henry is a comedian, not a trained singer so he might have been off-key.
It is WONDERFUL to hear this gem. But, it is a demo...and a completely different animal to the version with Prince. Prince gets slagged off way too much for the gift of his contribution to the song; which one can only assume that Kate requested from him and which he enthusiastically responded to with his own magic.
We don't get many songs that are Kate & Someone Else, its not JUST Kate, its a new mathematical equation and for me, the collaboration on TRS version is an extraordinary experience. Same with Madonna's song Love Song from Like A Prayer-its wonderful to watch an artist RISK and negotiate a new piece of art. If Picasso and Monet could make just ONE painting together everyone would probably hate it because it doesn't fit in either house. Oh well. Her voice is devastating on it though, isn't it?
I agree - and the documentation is there- but the interesting thing is that how this came to light its one of prince's camp documenting the story of the contribution of prince to this. search gaffaweb for the full story, but I would guess the contractuals made Kate accept a version that includes prince. the bit around 2'10 - trio bulgarka would have made a far better interpretation of the song. It is all interpretation - its the same song end of day.
I've read the story on Gafffa, and its interesting - one person's competitive take. Of course, it's all we have. I must challenge one bit in ur comment. I don't mean to be condescending, but it is preposterous and laughable to suggest "contractuals made Kate accept a version that includes Prince." You underestimate Ms. Bush. Prince is there because Kate WANTED him to be. If she didn't like it, she wouldn't have used it. I'd be surprised if there was a contract at all. They're fans of each other.
I don't underestimate Kate at all. To gain the creative freedon she has shows someone who understands contractuals very keenly. I don't believe in the early 90s or Prince would ever allow themseves to be on the wrong side of a contract. To retain the level of pivacy and control Kate has I expect contracts are a big part of her creative life... but this is ALL supposition... what is fact is, its a damn fine demo, and could have been so much better than the finished album track.
Fair enough. Thanks for walking through that with me. It is a fine damn demo. Agreed. Could have been better than the finished album track? Disagreed. Cheers, Thomas
wonderful bit of Kate history, and I love the chance to hear something before Kate had perfected it - not that with song she ever did,unfortunately. I wish she had honed this version and left prince out completely.
The thing that amazes me is how little the lyrics changed from Kate's original on it's journey through Paisley Park. This song was apparently written with Prince in mind, and was the result of Kate meeting Prince after one of his concerts.
@powersoulboy Perfection doesn't need collaboration or innovation. Kate Bush at her prime was perfection. Don't mess with something that works well. It seems that even she wasn't 100% aware of the talent she had.
I always get the feeling Prince went above his station in his changes. Maybe Kate is happy with what the final product became but there's this impression that Prince just went OTT and didn't really respect it as HER song.
arabiansanchez 1 month ago
Why should I NOT love this?
agoose72 3 months ago
3 users need to be sent to Prince for remixing ... :-)
agoose72 3 months ago
Wow, this is a great version! But I like the version on the album too. :)
ScarySquare 3 months ago
I guess Im in the minority but I actually like the album version better...
senorblancolaclau 5 months ago 3
Is there anywhere I can buy or download this version? I love it.
Alonzorion 7 months ago
the organ sound in this is pure prince, and the percussion in the verse.... Its hard to believe he had no influence on this version although i'm well aware that the tale is well documented now. Maybe she wrote with him in mind? Just saying is all.
knoxlobster 7 months ago
I always assumed from listening to the lyrics that they were possibly about Del. But this demo's lyrics tell me of a different story. She sings "you should not speak of it, you should not think it even, because it is forbidden". Forbidden. This isn't about a new found love for the Jesus she sings of with his "beautiful smile", this is about a new love that has taken her completely by surprise, all-consuming and relentless. This can only be about one person... I hope he loves you as much Kate.X
Broomfield1965 8 months ago
Not heard all of Director's Cut yet, but I'd be quite happy if this version appeared on it just as it is here, perhaps with some pruning off the end.
heathblanch 8 months ago
WONDERFULL! So much better than that re-make of 'Deeper Understanding.' I guess 'The Sesual World' is an album I loved when it was first released. I don't like it being tampered with. It was great on it's own.
Penscreen 9 months ago
thankyou
maplustube 9 months ago
this version is spectacular.
cosmicrider287 9 months ago 2
@cosmicrider287 i like it to henrey
loislombardo 9 months ago
This is lovely like a resonant tonethat is sonarant and lovely. but Princes collaboration with her makes it alive and is the best versionn :)
CanardDeChien 9 months ago
wow..never heard this version...chills
tallulahruby 9 months ago
Prince? Prince who....?
ThoseHeavyPeople 9 months ago
This is absolutely AMAZING. Cannot believe i have only just found this. So much more beautiful than the album version. Although to give him credit the version with Prince stands on it own too.
Toooder 10 months ago 2
heart breakingly beautiful
JohanR888 10 months ago 3
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This is unfinished and crap-although i love Kate Bush and her music
dongyue 10 months ago
This stands alongside the best of Dylan + Lennon. Hauntingly + addictively beautiful especially in the 2nd half. A true work of art (sadly cheapened in the final version). Go it yourself, Kate!
NlHILIST 10 months ago 4
Prince ruined this beautiful Kate's song. Thank you for the ability to hear the original. I heard, Kate plans to reissue "The Red shoes" album. Hope she will throw out cutted-mixed-drummed by Minnesota "genius" version.
Musorgsky 11 months ago
The way it's being told on here, it sounds as though Prince and KB were practically having a Harry Hill-style fight; 'Now I like the Trio, but I also like this other bit...'
MsBkirk 11 months ago
Love this version...I wish I knew about it when I owned "The Red Shoes" cassette (yes it was that long ago)...I am a Prince fan,but I have to say there is that certain "Kate" something he didn't consider when he altered/remade this song.I think he is just too full of himself...Kate is a world famous songwriter/singer,and has worked on who knows how many projects...who's to say who's actually more successful,but I can wager who's the more classy,and the better for it....
Ravisante5000 11 months ago 2
now i heard both i love them both .. i love Prince he is amazing true artist .. and Kate is truly Amazing artist too .. and i like them both !! Prince just faster pace... i love them both ...
yeah !! love peace
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amalsee 1 year ago
Oh my god. This is like listening to a new song. Amazing.
marsden72 1 year ago 2
Prince was going through a wierd period at the time. This was documented in the 2 unauthorized Bios on him.
InBlackNwhite09 1 year ago
I may be alone but I really love the album version that Kate did with Prince & Lenny Henry. It was different to anything else she had done before & I still believe it to be one of the highlights of 'The Red Shoes' album. All the key elements (here) are in the song but Prince takes it to another level. I'm not saying it's better but it is extraordinary and it is beautiful & it shows that Kate is adaptable, eager to experiment & grow.
pussyvillow 1 year ago 3
I like this version better. It's more Kate Bush.
DUNKYDOOBS 1 year ago 2
Though I do love this, I prefer Prince's version. I love being able to dance around to it haha. But I like this for other reasons. It's so haunting.
raindropstellastory 1 year ago
Love this! Thank you :)
breedak 1 year ago
This is one of my favourite KB songs - I like what Prince did to it although I'm sure it was only partly him. This version is interesting, but not as tight
michaelleacy 1 year ago
How beautiful! Wouldn't this be a great song for her next album!?
Anyhow the vocals are already perfect..... I'm waiting, Kate!
siforestify 1 year ago
And I thought the organ was part of Prince's treatment . This version is holy !
electroheaven 1 year ago
wow, even with such a dodgy back rhythm and bontempi style organ :0) Kate at her best, so deep and emotional, superb. Let's hope she hasn't given up on releasing more music. Thanks for this
scarletfever72 1 year ago
It's was so better before Prince...
Love Kate!
noteworthy65 1 year ago
angelic, just how she drected it
araneaestone 1 year ago
With this demo, Prince had the foundations of a masterpiece to work on... and he blew it. Just listen to Kate's voice, especially 2:55-3:05, so much emotion, but Prince chose instead to 'funk' it up, or fu*k it up - you decide.
CrimsonDiamond 1 year ago 6
this is amazing i love her she makes me cry ....that sounds so stupid and queer but its true
tekh07 1 year ago
yes, almost the best thing she'd done since Hounds Of Love at that tme n my opinion. wonderful stuff, just the sound of drums and keyboards is what she should have pursued more. the repeating keyboard melody is great. I also went off her voice abit after Hounds Of Love - on that album it was absolutely perfect but her voice seemed to change after the classic Experiment IV. which is bound to happen I suppose. thanks
chrisnoaro1 1 year ago
@chrisnoaro1 Not sure what you are talking about her voice changing with Experiment IV, can you elaborate. Thanks
toddwquigley 1 year ago
@toddwquigley Well I felt a change in the sound of her voice and singing style from 85/86 to the way she sounded on The Sensual World, but it's a purely subjective judgement. And that's natural I suppose, performers get older, try new things & aren't going to sound the same for their entire career. I might describe Hounds Of Love as a more icy vocal perhaps? (but still very beautiful), in comparison with The Sensual World where I felt more emotional warmth coming into her vocals. Cheers
chrisnoaro1 1 year ago
Thankyou,X.
Allthelovetoyou 1 year ago
I agree with outher posts - this version is better than the remixed one on the album
SnuggleBaggins 1 year ago
The more I here this the more i like it, it would make a perfect single.
lumsdot 1 year ago
makes me think that kate Bush didnt have enough confidence in her genius at this point in her career and that she over fussed due to alack of confidence on the red shoes and the sensual world albums. glad to see if came back with aerial though.
katebushing 1 year ago
there is another album she could release of all the b sides and this. also look for Not this time, and Show a little devotion. love the hammond organ
lumsdot 1 year ago
this is a demo? sounds perfect to me
lumsdot 1 year ago
Loved this song when it came out on the Red Shoes album.......this is even better. Cheers!!
TheBimotaman 1 year ago
Prince's music has been fucking terrible since 1988. She probably gave him this demo out of pity.
axlmnaxl7 1 year ago
To Whomever uploaded this gem: Much love...
theogore 2 years ago 14
@theogore You're welcome.
whyshouldIloveyou 2 years ago
@whyshouldIloveyou
I'll back that. Love Prince but this is great. Both versions great for different reasons and different moods!
1050ccTriumph 9 months ago
Prince did make a mistake... This one is far superior. Prince's is vulgar, he simply didn't understand the Bulgarian choir like choir and treated it like a funny little accessory. I'm not saying he's not worthy of admiration for everything else, only that Kate is just too much.
carameloasakura 2 years ago 7
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Ravisante5000 1 year ago
Well then it is not my comment you are refuting... I recommend you look up for "refute" in a dictionary and maybe "chorus" too.
carameloasakura 1 year ago
This version is much more powerful than the one on "Red Shoes" which is a bit wimpy.
muskndusk 2 years ago 3
Thank you for posting! It's so rare to hear an unfinished demo from Kate. I always thought that she recorded her songs directly onto tape at her home studio; that her "demos" eventually evolved into her finished songs. The vocals on this version are wonderful but obviously not meant to be the finished product - maybe just guide vocals?
This makes me wonder if she has any other unfinished songs or alternate versions with extra lyrics lying around in her studio. We will probably never know!
bingobastard 2 years ago 3
im a massive prince fan, but i gotta admit that this version is far superior to princes mix
joebpool 2 years ago 17
I love this version.
JohanR888 2 years ago
Me too, I've not heard this version before :)
armouredamazon 2 years ago 2
this song and the whole site is not what we normally get on you tube; asides, Kate should work like this on her own and forget conventionality, this sounds like her earlier works, unsettling, beautiful, Amazing and totally original. Kate, if you ever read this, David Sylvian is still challenging us ( 'Manafon') , You are far more than just capable of startling us all over again!! LOVE-PEACE.
ripvanjonesy 2 years ago 12
One of the most beautiful songs ive ever heard in my entire little life!
So many people can relate to it...I think.
Definitely the song i would turn to if i was really mad at someone close to me!...
MammalucaArt 2 years ago
I like Prince but can see just how much he fucked this song up.
This version's so amazing as it is, why'd he have to drop so much of the lyrics, and why did she let him? We had to wait for Ariel for her to finally fulfil singing like a Blackbird.
This version just blows me away. It really never needed the funk.
djbethell 2 years ago 11
Well, there are actually 3 versions - this one, the final one and whatever Prince made and sent to Kate. We've never heard Prince's fully funked version, and it's unlikely to ever come out.
whyshouldIloveyou 2 years ago 5
Thanks for the info. That album track never worked for me and now I know why after hearing this original version. Lenny Henry didn't help the track either. It was too heavy and buried in over-productiion. Michael Koppelman, Prince's engineer said "Gods knows I've begged her to let me record or mix something for years (that's what I do for a living). My wish came true when I worked on Why Should I Love You? when I worked for Prince, but I hated what he did to that song so much it killed me."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 1: "It's funny because Prince was a huge KB fan. He was too, but not like me. The first time I asked him if he liked Kate Bush he said, "she's my favourite woman". I also made him a tape of all the KB b-sides, which fucking rule. When the Sensual World came out he had someone go and get it and we listened to it in the studio. He didn't dig it that much, but I knew you can't always tell right away with a Kate album. TSW grew on me, but it is still not her best effort."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 2: "This Woman's Work is a masterpiece, though,
and makes the whole album worth it. But I digress. Prince is weird, and a couple stories in this post prove it. I may be tooting my own horn here, but Prince has a weird ego. I think *part* of his motivation to work with
Kate was the fact that I worshipped her, and he knew it would impress me that he could call her on the phone and work on her music and shit."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 3: "ANYWAY, what led up to the phone conversation above: one day Prince's assistant, Therese, told me as we were talking on the phone that Kate Bush had called. Therese also knew I was a big Kate fan. Then, in the studio that day, Prince said, guess who I talked to today. Me, being stupid and
unable to keep my mouth shut, said, "Kate Bush?" Prince got a little miffed, and said "How did you know that?" And I said Therese told me, and he said,
"Hmm, I should dock here for that".
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 4: "At that point I knew I fucked up and
tried to say, no, she just knew I'm a big fan. As a side note, I told Therese that Prince was a little pissed that she had told me that, and she apologized to him. Therese is a really cool person. So, Prince tells me
that he and Kate are going to work on a tune together. He also told me that while they were talking he told her that his engineer would rather work with her than him. (I thought, Wow! Prince and Kate Bush talking
about me!)"
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 5: "ANYWAY, Eventually the phone call above occured and the tapes arrived and I put them up and got a rough mix up. I still have a cassette of it. It fucking rules. It is 1 million times better than the lame disco Prince put on it. There was, of course, no disco on it before Prince got his hands on it. So Prince comes in and listens to it. And the brutality
began."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 6: "First we sampled the drum thing and synced it up to my Powerbook so we could do MIDI. At that point, we essentially created a new song on a
new piece of tape and then flew all of Kate's tracks back on top of it. So now we could run the sequencer and add all the keyboards that Prince put on. So Prince stacked a bunch of keys, guitars, basses, etc, on it and then went to sing background vocals."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 7: "When Prince does vocals, he sits right at the recording console with a microphone hanging over it and does his own punching in and out. So he kicks everyone out of the room when he sings. It took him a few hours and then he called me back in and played me the thick, multi-tracked background vocals he had put on. Now, as we all know, the song in question goes "Of all the people in the world why should I love you?"
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 8: "When Prince called me back in and played me what he had done, he had sung "All of the people in the world", instead of Of All. I said, "Isn't it OF all the people in the world? Not ALL of?" He said, "No, we had a little talk about that", in his cocky way, as if to say he had talked with Kate about changing the words to "all of" instead of "of all".
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 9: The next day, I was waiting at my hotel room for the call to go to the studio when the assistant engineer, Sylvia Massy, called and said Prince was in the studio doing vocals. I was surprised; I was always called well in advance of Prince going into the studio. When I got there he was changing all the vocals to "Of All", and was sampling them in himself, which is something he would normally never do himself."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 10: "My interpetation? He made a mistake, as humans do, and didn't have the guts to admit it. That's weird. So I sorta poked my head in at one point and asked him if he needed any help, and we went on with the day. Eventually he had me do a rough mix, and when he had approved it, we sent it to Kate.
I got a call from Therese a few days (or weeks, I forget) later. She said, "Kate Bush said to destroy all copies of that mix"
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 11: "I said, "Huh? Did she not like it or something?" (my heart rejoiced, because I hated what Prince did to it). She said, "I don't know, she just said to destroy them". Later on Prince told me, "Kate Bush
liked what we did. She said it sounded very American". So at that point I wasn't sure if she was even going to use it. We sent the tapes back and
she sort of split the difference with what he sent and what's on the record."
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 12: "Kate, if you read this, stick the pre-Prince version of Why Should I Love You? out on something. And let me do a remix of Not This Time.
Later,
LoLife
aka
Michael Koppelman"
djbethell 2 years ago
Pt 13: "DISCLAIMER: The above is my perception of what occured. I was there, and thats what I thought of it. I did not intend to invade anyones privacy, nor have I signed a non-disclosure agreement with any of the parties mentioned. I also want to add that I truly enjoyed my years working for Prince, but the man treats people as if he thinks he is actually better
than them, like hes royalty or something, and that makes it hard to look back on working with him fondly."
djbethell 2 years ago
So your point is that your talented boss made a mistake, so what?
Stop been envious of everybody else succes and get a life!
powersoulboy 2 years ago
Doh! You're talking to the wrong guy. It's a quote, hence the quotation marks. You do understand a quote don't you?
travelogue200 2 years ago
Dude...I think you have wayyy too much spare time lol
hayliiparamore 2 years ago
Shit, you're right. I'm not normally a stickler for so many facts, but I did find the story funny and interesting. Anyway, I only dragged and didn't type out each individual word so I maybe have a little life to speak of ;)
djbethell 2 years ago
@whyshouldIloveyou What a worldly shame to not be able to hear that version. I'd like to hear all versions before I die....
SrslyAnnoyed 1 year ago
@SrslyAnnoyed *cries*
me too!
Sharmilka 1 year ago
Well, I like both versions, BUT I can see where Prince cut what he did. I'm a longtime Prince fan and artist myself, and to me this song contains two songs; the one with the almost Shakespearean beat to it and the ballad. Prince took out the ballad-y parts and proceeded to hone out the beat to make it have a cohesive, flowing harmony.
SrslyAnnoyed 1 year ago
@djbethell
It was given to Prince! What he was he gonna do with it but add the funk! It's what he does! Blame Kate's team not Prince!
This demo is awesome and better than Prince's version, but then why did Kate's team give it to Prince? If you have a subtle flower, you don't give it to a master gardener and say "see what you can do with this!"
1050ccTriumph 9 months ago 2
@1050ccTriumph
I think what she had in mind was a few gospel touches like Purple Rain or maybe like Diamonds and Pearls.
Apparently Kate sent Prince instructions about what she wanted and he didn't do what she asked, which is why she had to get Lenny Henry in to patch up the vocal.
Prince doesn't just do funk, he does a wide range of styles.
Also, in the account I read, Prince approached Kate about collaboration, not the other way round.
rascalscoundrel 7 months ago
@djbethell you're right
LauraLeonTolstoy 7 months ago
I still love her...
T.Raven was here...
Bambadinka 2 years ago
i'm an early fan of kate, i was 12 when wuthering heights were released and i fell in love...
the red shoes is my least favorite albums, and why should i love you one of my least favorite songs of kate... but this version is sooo much "kater" than the LP version... why the hell did she ruined it on the album ?????
billida 2 years ago
Well, it does need to go somewhere. But it doesn't say Prince-type funk and Lenny Henry to me!
And she did learn to sing 'like a blackbird' didn't she?
arosegrowingold 2 years ago
primarily a big Kate Bush fan and love Prince, and I have to say this is a wonderful discovery for me thanks
CanardDeChien 2 years ago
wonderfull
mecxvare1 2 years ago
I'm sorry if this offends anyone,but the only version I ever knew of this song (which came out on the 'Red Shoes' album) was the Prince edited version...I'm thrilled,years later to hear this version,and wonder why Prince cut out such crucial lyrics as "If I could sing like a Blackbird,just like my heart was filled with Summer,"Such a beautiful image...I'm happy that someone posted this version, and I found out what I was missing....
Ravisante5000 2 years ago 2
Just incredible, even unfinished. I'm so happy to be on planet Bush. "The gray of the ghost/the L of the lips are open to the O of the Host..." Gorgeous.
keithdeweese 2 years ago
Thank you for this rare version.
I really liked it.
wildfemale 2 years ago 3
i love both versions: this one makes me cry and the other one makes me dance :D
oddn 2 years ago 2
This is a beautiful song, i love the melody, and the words, prince has took away the emotion on the song, but his mix was not to bad, but i feel she didnt need prince
Cosmic444 2 years ago 2
No way! This version is too repetitive; the album version is much tighter, richer, and carefree. Here she's just moaning.
olivebarrel 2 years ago
Again, this is NOT a finished song, it was a rough mix of the multi-tracks that she sent to Prince for his input. Read the story linked in the comments to get all the information.
whyshouldIloveyou 2 years ago
i want to buy this version, how do you find it?
ookaninam2000 2 years ago
It's not buyable. It's never been offered for sale. As explained in the text box to the right of the video (which nobody ever seems to read) this version was released by a former engineer for Prince.
Of course some sleeze probably has downloaded this track and is selling it on CD at record fairs.
whyshouldIloveyou 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing this. It really helped me understand why the album version was so abrasively mixed up.
kristich78 2 years ago
When I heard this track (Prince's Production)for the first time I found myself listening to the intro on repeat because the melodic hook in the beginning was so rich and beautiful. I really couldn't stand the chorus in comparison to the baroque style choir and organ. Prince drowned out the richness of this melody with gaudy synth, percussion, and guitar licks. It sounded like the meeting of the minds was really competition of styles;one clearly Prince and the other Kate Bush.
kristich78 2 years ago
This is so unbelievably fantastic, you have made my day. Kate is a genius, and the Red Shoes is one of my favourite, and one one of the greatest albums of all time. Her voice breaks my heart, and heals it, all in a note.
librarianscales 2 years ago 2
That's why I put stuff up - it's like getting presents every single day.
whyshouldIloveyou 2 years ago
WSILY is one of my favourite KB songs - but this is clearly an unfinished demo - I love the album version
michaelleacy 2 years ago
This is great but it definitely doesn't work as a finished product....the album version is a bit overproduced, but that's a kate thing just as much as it's a prince thing......almost sounds like it could've gone on Sensual World here, too bad it lost that texture.....as far as demos go check out babushka.....
mrtumnus84 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing this. How beautiful. Kate Bush is master word smith; she is a composer, weaving notes around the words perfectly. And her soprano, at once so lyrical and poignant.
If this were released, surely the public would be grateful.
Thank you again!
kinddude 3 years ago 2
thanks for posting this! christmas came early!
koolaidnhemlock 3 years ago
Wow. This is fantastic. I've always loved "Why Should I Love You," but couldn't help but feel like particular elements were lacking. Much of the lyrical content here should've been left attached to the album version, in my opinion. I also prefer her vocal performance here..she sounds rather bored on the official record, but again, that's my opinion.
ThEsUpReMeDiVo 3 years ago
agree, that version of Prince making on that is OK, but this is somehow nicer I think, somehow more Kathy's heart in it. I loved always "Why should i love you?" as the Prince's version, but hearing this, I attach more to this version. have you heard "Sexual healing" performed by Kate? So nice, its like some angels choir to that sexual song, Kathy makes love even from porn ;)
vicko77 3 years ago
have you ever seen the picture of jesus laughing....? he had a beautiful smile... a smile that healed.... :))))
i remember that i get to kate bush when i was just smoking pots,when i smoked the first marihuana, and that is why this music is for me like if was played when i was born.... by the first steps of mine...
only one thing:
the purest GOLD.....
so: yes!
vicko77 3 years ago
wow...cool, thanks...
dragonboy718 3 years ago
I fall in the "prefer the album version" camp. This is lovely, of course, being Kate, but hesitant and unfinished sounding.
I do wish she'd left in the blackbird line though. I'm glad it was saved and released.
coy0te9 3 years ago
This is gorgeous; she is so incredibly talented. I love this album.
bunchie1966 3 years ago
i love it, would love a version on cd or uploadable version... show that even in demo version kate is still one of the most talented singer / songwriters on the planet
destoryerphill 3 years ago
hmm...i think i like the red shoes final product version better, but kate bush still is the greatest musician to ever exist - always!!!
curdey 3 years ago
I like both versions.
ToccodelDestino 3 years ago
Prince ruined the song.
berlinwarsaw 3 years ago
No, Prince is a genius and turned the track round!
leadedhypercurve 3 years ago
The track comes to us courtesy of Prince's old engineer who much preferred Kate's original version. We've never heard the version that Prince sent back to Kate - and neither have you. There was this version, then the version that Kate pieced back together from what Prince did. So you really have no idea is Prince "turned the track round" or not.
whyshouldIloveyou 3 years ago
Interesting view but if you can't hear the Prince influence on the song then I suggest you listen to a few Pince albums.
leadedhypercurve 3 years ago
I've seen Prince in concert and own a number of his albums. Kate met Prince backstage at one of his concerts, and she wanted to work with him. She wrote this version, and sent the multi-track tape to Prince. The engineer, Michael Koppelman, made this rough mix. Prince took it all apart, and made something completely different, and it took Kate and her engineer Del Palmer two years to create the final version.
I've added a link in the comments section to Koppelman's own words about this.
whyshouldIloveyou 3 years ago
thanks for the info and the link.
leadedhypercurve 3 years ago
you should probably remove any names, as far as sources....Prince is not a big fan of youtube or leaked material.....and can be a jerkface about lawsuits.....appreciate that this is posted and it's kates, but i think it better to play it safe
mrtumnus84 2 years ago
Good suggestion, and I have done so. Thanks!
whyshouldIloveyou 2 years ago
WOW! This is a GEM! I'd love an upload too! ThankYouPlease! In the waiting, I'll go listen to the tasty Kate/Prince jam. Always did like this song.
BoBeena 3 years ago
Prince messed up the song, and im a huge P fan..
lol @ lenny hendry adding his two cents in..
elshowgun 3 years ago
can somebody upload this via mp3? Please!
elshowgun 3 years ago
wow...glad to hear the OG version!!!
elshowgun 3 years ago
i like prince, but i prefer to hear this version to the album one.
thanks
brushuk 3 years ago
This one has a cool, yet strange feel to it. I know the one with her and Prince but I thought it was "Untitled". I was going through a lifechanging heartbreak @ the time and got rid of all those songs. I would like to hear that version again so if someone could upload it I was be grateful
kookoo78 3 years ago
The one with Prince is on Kate's "The Red Shoes" album.
leicbri 3 years ago
I love this version too...
bluedeep08 4 years ago
she was so beyond her time musically!!
R4CH3LDeH4V3N 4 years ago 2
When this woman passes away,the country is going to get hit really hard.I don't think enough people appreciate her.I dont think she respects how much we appriciate her for what she has done for music,and inspiration.
cyberculprit 4 years ago 2
Your comment has just chilled me. I've listened to Kate Bush since 1978, and I can't imagine such a thing, inevitable as it is. You're so right. The mourning...well, I can't write any more, I'm already tearing up.
keithdeweese 2 years ago
Will she never sing this wonderful song , alone or with Prince,- and the others ones too - live?
blackgargamel 4 years ago
Aint she just great !. lovely vocal. She's really playing with the ideas - what a joy to hear such a young song. I'm not sure that kate would really just roll over and let someone else -even the talent of Prince do something to a song she did not want or like in some way and then release it. This song version would really be at odds with the rest of the red shoes in style. it's still great though. thanks
paddyyogi 4 years ago
WOW! Thank you so much for uploading this! I'm in awe of Kate's vocals here, even if they are only guide vocals as someone said, they're still damn good.
suntorytime 4 years ago
by the way, does anyone know where I can download this?
suntorytime 4 years ago
"If I could sing like a blackbird, just like my heart was filled with summer", looks like Kate was thinking about Aerial even in 1993. I like the album version, but this just blows it out the water, this is Kate at her best.
silgen 4 years ago
I love Kate Bush's Voice <3
I love this just as much as the album version with Prince though. I wouldn't be able to choose between the two imho.
themusicknowitall 4 years ago 3
Also...this makes you wonder what other beauties are lurking on cassette at the bottom of a drawer somewhere!
leicbri 4 years ago 2
Great version -- I like it much more than the album version. I can't believe she left out the best melodic part, AND the best lyrics ("If I could sing like a blackbird...")! Still, I guess it must have been closer to what she wanted had in mind. I don't dislike Prince, but think this song is a lot better without him.
leicbri 4 years ago
Can't agree with U on that. The Prince version was very good also and it jammed!!! This one is serene...
kookoo78 3 years ago 2
WoW, this is great, much better than the album version.
kateprawn 4 years ago
That was cute! I like the album version more. Me being a Prince fanatic, it's more exciting and unique. Not as if this isnt, but the middle kinda drags on and the climax was great. This verion is PURE KATE though...untouched. To be honest with you though, I dont know if I would have paid this song any attention if it wasnt for P.
izakteaz 4 years ago
I think Ill go with the album version.
fiddleydiddley 4 years ago
@fiddleydiddley That's funny...I was just listening to some of your "fiddles" of Kate's songs and wondered if you considered doing this one.
robbjmc 2 years ago
i really love the album version with prince. in fact it's one of my favourites by kate. but this is pretty amazing to hear.
swooningtree 4 years ago
I have to think that is the TRIO, most definitely! I thought I would not be able to hear this and here it is! OH MY GOSH! This is soooooo damn awesome!! Thank you for posting this!!! Just beautiful!
OfraHaza 4 years ago
Wow - thanks for posting. Kate's voice is so much more emotional here than on the album version. The Trio's vocals are amazing - esp. at 4:00 - it's so nice to finally hear them so clearly.
bingobastard 4 years ago
I honestly don't think that is the Trio, but rather Kate's rough version of what she wanted the Trio to do when they got together. This is a rough mix of the 24 track tape Kate had sent to Prince, and it was a two full years before the song was completed, and normally vocals come fairly late in the production of a song. So I'm pretty confident that these are "guide" vocals.
whyshouldIloveyou 4 years ago
I think you are right about those being Kate's bv's at 4:00; they are beautiful.
btw, I always thought the "Lenny Henry" part on the original WSILY was Kate's own voice, just distorted into a lower register. (That's what I thought when I first heard it, and it still sounds strangely processed to me.) I know, I know, it's def. LH singing, and I haven't heard his voice elsewhere so I can't really judge, I'm just sayin' ...
bingobastard 4 years ago
Lenny Henry can be seen introducing Kate performance of "Experiment IV" when she performed it on "Wogan".
The processing might be AutoTune, or some other electronic pitch-correction system. Lenny Henry is a comedian, not a trained singer so he might have been off-key.
whyshouldIloveyou 4 years ago
That was sooo pretty. Thanks so much for providing this version! I like it so much better than the one on The Red Shoes!
shoshawna 4 years ago
It is WONDERFUL to hear this gem. But, it is a demo...and a completely different animal to the version with Prince. Prince gets slagged off way too much for the gift of his contribution to the song; which one can only assume that Kate requested from him and which he enthusiastically responded to with his own magic.
stunning67 4 years ago
We don't get many songs that are Kate & Someone Else, its not JUST Kate, its a new mathematical equation and for me, the collaboration on TRS version is an extraordinary experience. Same with Madonna's song Love Song from Like A Prayer-its wonderful to watch an artist RISK and negotiate a new piece of art. If Picasso and Monet could make just ONE painting together everyone would probably hate it because it doesn't fit in either house. Oh well. Her voice is devastating on it though, isn't it?
stunning67 4 years ago 3
I agree - and the documentation is there- but the interesting thing is that how this came to light its one of prince's camp documenting the story of the contribution of prince to this. search gaffaweb for the full story, but I would guess the contractuals made Kate accept a version that includes prince. the bit around 2'10 - trio bulgarka would have made a far better interpretation of the song. It is all interpretation - its the same song end of day.
frickam 4 years ago
I've read the story on Gafffa, and its interesting - one person's competitive take. Of course, it's all we have. I must challenge one bit in ur comment. I don't mean to be condescending, but it is preposterous and laughable to suggest "contractuals made Kate accept a version that includes Prince." You underestimate Ms. Bush. Prince is there because Kate WANTED him to be. If she didn't like it, she wouldn't have used it. I'd be surprised if there was a contract at all. They're fans of each other.
stunning67 4 years ago
I don't underestimate Kate at all. To gain the creative freedon she has shows someone who understands contractuals very keenly. I don't believe in the early 90s or Prince would ever allow themseves to be on the wrong side of a contract. To retain the level of pivacy and control Kate has I expect contracts are a big part of her creative life... but this is ALL supposition... what is fact is, its a damn fine demo, and could have been so much better than the finished album track.
frickam 4 years ago
Fair enough. Thanks for walking through that with me. It is a fine damn demo. Agreed. Could have been better than the finished album track? Disagreed. Cheers, Thomas
stunning67 4 years ago
wonderful bit of Kate history, and I love the chance to hear something before Kate had perfected it - not that with song she ever did,unfortunately. I wish she had honed this version and left prince out completely.
frickam 4 years ago
The thing that amazes me is how little the lyrics changed from Kate's original on it's journey through Paisley Park. This song was apparently written with Prince in mind, and was the result of Kate meeting Prince after one of his concerts.
whyshouldIloveyou 4 years ago
Kate should have thrown the Prince version in the lake. This is the true one.
ribogok 4 years ago
So Kate wanned to do something diferent other then be the regular Kate Bush, so what? that's the whole point of a collaboration.
I love both versions, one is predictible and the other is unusual, but to call one a "mistake" or "better" is like comparing to pieces of art.
powersoulboy 2 years ago 3
@powersoulboy Perfection doesn't need collaboration or innovation. Kate Bush at her prime was perfection. Don't mess with something that works well. It seems that even she wasn't 100% aware of the talent she had.
peperes2 8 months ago
Thank , thank, thank and more thank.
ricardomark 4 years ago
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Undercovermanage 4 years ago
beautiful...
coloursoundandmyself 4 years ago
Wow. Thank you so much.
zodiac2 4 years ago