HORNBLOWER-2-The Examination For Lieutenant Part2

[Zichiable]

If only we had the same grace today as they did then, honour, decency and duty.

[dobspau]

It is odd for midshipmen and leuitenents to dine with the captain. most officers would eat in their respective wardrooms of which a captain could only enter if invited,

[SailingMoominmama]

The series has a lot of faults, but Lindsay (musicals, shakespeare, TV comedy, what can't this man do?!) is wonderful and gives real authority to Pellew, and Gruffudd is ridiculously handsome and youthful as young Hornblower. Plus, as a sailor, I give bonus points to any episode where they have some footage of a real ship at sea.

[50TNCSA]

CURSE THAT BOSUN WHISTEL TOO LOUD IT BE

[LordWellington15]

@50TNCSA It is meant too be loud.

[Songsmirth]

I read a comment recently read a comment. The person said, "I don't think we should ever meet our heros."  Something like that and it's a profound and true thought. / Notice the older officers have trouble eating? Foster's admirers are only the young officers.The older ones know how Foster has gained his fame at the cost of men's lives. Pellew hates that Hornblower is taken in by this man and is a little jealous. He's used to being H's father image. H will have to see it for himself.

[DanTheGerbil360]

"Such greatness always had its price" - That pretty deep for something so casual.

[Antigan15th]

Does anyone know what those buckets hanging from the bridge deck are for?

[Spontaneologist]

@Antigan15th

I'm not sure, but I think they'd either be used for cleaning or for cannon fuses- Naval cannon used flintlocks where the army basically used burning rope, as it was more reliable. They were wary about fires on a wooden ship full of gunpowder, so they kept them above buckets of water. But I'm only speculating.

[johncharnley1]

@Antigan15th I believe they are fire buckets to fill with water in case of fires that were used in addition to the water pump.

[Atlantianis]

Always had a strong sense that Hornblower had Captail Pellew as his rolemodel, right?

[baroquemusician1]

"I'm pleased that the Spanish have been deprived of our supplies..." He should have added, "I'm am regretful however of the loss of life." I have a feeling that Pellew was upset that Foster had been so reckless with the lives of the men on that merchant ship.

[Wikipediot]

bosuns whistles are still used as are the maggot biscuits...

[baroquemusician1]

@Wikipediot Wow, that's interesting. I've eaten MRE's before, and I guess you could say that their crackers = hardtack. They definitely were not tasty, you could get tired of them very quickly. I wonder if that's how the Israelites felt about manna.

[chrismc410]

@Wikipediot Minus the maggots of course nowadays. Or at the very least minimized.

[astringendo45]

Capt. Foster is an arrogant, turnip-headed prick.

[Lanniish]

who says "hornblower" at 1:33?

[Trek001]

@Lanniish  i think Mathews says "below er..." which with other sounds overlayed sounds like Hornblower

[ragerule2006]

what's foster's accent? He sounds a little scottish or Irish.

[astringendo45]

A bit of Irish, it sounds like to me.

[EdMcStinko]

apology is noted... lol far from accepted it sounds

[Anthony009R]

Pellew may have been offended but Foster put Hornblower in the spotlight. Hornblower looked like a deer caught in the headlights.

[MelsToast]

6:15 I lol'd

[mjuklo4]

what are the whistles for? :o

[urquhart2001]

They signal when the Captain is coming aboard. If you watch the original Star Trek show,, the intra ship communications were always preceded by the naval whistling sound (known as "bosun's whistles").

[CJL1194]

i have one

[Shangas]

They're called bosun's pipes. In the age of sail, they were used for issuing orders (the high pitch of the whistle could be heard over the wind and waves better than a shouted command).

[chrismc410]

Aren't Bosun's whistles still in use today?

[Shangas]

@chrismc410; hi. Yes they are still used, but these days mostly for ceremonial purposes. They were essential back in the Napoleonic era because it was the only way to effectively issue orders. But these days with battleships having megaphones and PA systems, that function is largely obsolete. But they are still used for piping dignitries and naval officials and the captain aboard.

[MrSatireTube]

@Shangas A Boatswain's (pronounced Bo'sun) call. And yes very much still used in ceremonial duties for piping naval officials aboard, piping the still at colours and sunset and official functions.

[astringendo45]

Yes, they are.

[MCzeppo]

calling different members of the crew to the deck

[ShiHenan]

Could anybody tell me what is the other officer murmuring to Hornblower at 2:20? It' s quite difficult for me to understand sometimes.

[44tyke]

Oh get off me, man! Take me to the rum.

[44tyke]

Wait, that's not what you meant. What he says is" I fear the Captain is not counted amongst our guests admirers"

[whiteNshine]

Its "oh get that off me man! take me to the rum"

[Nimcenzo]

hornblowers fictional, right?

[peoplesfrontofjudea]

Yes, though his career is based upon those of Cochrane and Nelson, rather like Jack Aubrey in Patrick O'Brian's later series of books. My English teacher recommended Forrester and my local bookshop owner recommended O'Brian. I prefer O'Brian as his books are better researched and have more atmosphere. That said, it helps that you have a nautical dictionary to read his books - quite a learning curve! Forrester's patriotic and duty bound Hornblower is a bloody good read nonetheless.

[rbfishcss]

HeavenGames :)

[richardcadbury]

Pellew was a real man.

[baroquemusician1]

@richardcadbury Yeah, a real living human being, I think is what you were saying, besides the fact that his character did befit a real man.

Lived from 9 April 1757 – 23 January 1833, was the 1st Viscount Exmouth, and a Baron.

He actually owned a property and a tobacco plantation in Maryland, United States of America and part of the town of Annapolis stands on what was, before the revolt of the colonies, the estate of the Pellews. I read up on him in Wikipedia, check it out, he's pretty cool.

[bofts]

funnyflyingdutchgirl rocks

[Berbecue]

Someone can tell me why Hornblower offended Captain Pellew? What did he say...? (sorry I don't understand english very well), anyway that's a great show!

[CJayFla]

Captain Pellew and Captain Foster held differing views on what Foster should have done. Hornblower agreed with Foster's idea of scuttling the ship, disagreeing with captain Pellew. In the days of honour and gentlemanly conduct, thos could be seen as a slight insult to captain pellew.

[Berbecue]

Oh, I see^^,  Thank you for replied^^!

[ppitm]

He disagreed. Pretty stupid of him- it was practically illegal to disagree with a captain at his own table. Subordinates weren't even allowed to make any conversation that wasn't a direct response to a subject the captain had broached.

[theWall0719]

As I see it Acting Lieutenant Hornblower was directly asked a question by a man of equal rank to his captain and, therefore, free to answer as he pleased.

[ppitm]

The Captain is God the Father when he's on his own deck. He could put King George in irons if he was on board.

[Trek001]

the captain as second only to god... and that was only down to service time

[chrismc410]

Not that a Royal Naval captain would have the King/Queen clapped in irons his ship or not mind you if he liked breathing.

[wkcia]

@theWall0719 It would also be a dick of a Captain who wouldn't let Hornblower answer the way he did... although he would certainly have a right to feel offended.

[anjaliss]

I think the hats have some meaning...which one I have absolutely no idea, but I guess they do.

[BoniBee]

I like Captain Pelham, he seems pretty decent in all matters

[collinsl02]

@BoniBee Pellew

[MateusVIII]

@BoniBee kiding right?

[MateusVIII]

@BoniBee i mean it is pellew

[Ereldor]

Do officers' hats mark their rank as well?

[Fenderstat]

the laced bicorne is a captain, the plain is a luitenant and the round hat is a midshipman