I love how this jack off says 85 billion like its the biggest number he's ever heard but when Obama throws around 400 billion like its candy its suddenly okay to spend that money. Typical liberal hypocrite.
@HyperTheProfessor High School? You mean Public Marxist Education in America? Had failed? Yet again another Marxist Experiment has Failed? You Marxists should give up! Another failure? I feel you comrade! This Marxist Socialist experiment is turning Idiots into "Useful Idiots".
@HyperTheProfessor Well excuse me Comra....i meant Professor, but the Public Education System is a complete failure under the Marxist Class Warfare that it is been in the curriculum since the 1920s!, but you still have the guts to say People obviously failed World History in High School? They failed Math, Science, hell even Gym, I think Marxists should just step out of the Education System for a while and let some other Ideology to be the base on Public Education. But that is just me.
@HyperTheProfessor Well excuse me Comra....i meant Professor, but the Public Education System is a complete failure under the Marxist Class Warfare that it is been in the curriculum since the 1920s!, but you still have the guts to say People obviously failed World History in High School? They failed Math, Science, hell even Gym, I think Marxists should just step out of the Education System for a while and let some other Ideology to be the base on Public Education. But that is just me.
The Term 'National Socialist' has nothing to do with 'Socialist' Hitler was in the 'national socialist party'. Hitler wanted to appeal to the worker. In case you don't remember History. Hitler was behind the murder of hundreds of thousands of Communists since the beginning of his political career.
George Bush WAS NOT a communist. Communism is an economic system where all wealth is owned by the community as a whole - not by individuals. Capitalism is when people can purchase, sell, and invest as they wish. Property is owned by the individual. Bush was definitely not a true capitalist, but he was closer to capitalist than communist.
Yeah check it out, anyone who calls themselves "socialist" as part of their title will be exactly like Adolf Hitler. Never mind that he came from a totally different political system, in a different time, and never mind that most of what he is VILLIFIED for has absolutely nothing to do with socialism.
What's really funny is how left wingers think that conservatives worship Republicans in the same way that they worship Democrats. We criticize the Republicans and they think it must be some kind of stunt.
They simply cannot imagine how anyone could love freedom and independence without towing a party line.
If you're a conservative you'll most likely identify with communism and if you're a liberal you'll most likely identify with socialism. I would rather all of our government officials be moderates with impartial judgement. The more radical you (far left or right) are the less reliable you become as an impartial judge. Frankly, I'd rather have highly evolved artificial intelligence rule the world than any human being who has ever lived. At least then we would have a chance at fairness.
The central idea of Bush's ideology is self sacrifice of the masses for the sake of his ideology. He wanted people to sacrifice themselves at the neo-conservative altar (both going to war and paying for the war). This is very much like communism.
@SuperRegisteredUser Why are they called neo-cons? The oldest tradition was a man only under the law of god Adam! You can't be a conservative if your growing the government exponentially!
@SuperRegisteredUser Yeah there are corporations funding big government, but the real problem is these are not conservatives at all they are the exact opposite wasters! Me my self i am an old school Ronald Reagen type conservative, but it is a fact when i say there is enough incentive in socialism! I never thought the world could be perfect only Allah is, but it could be darn close! If only our world leaders were not corrupting the socialism that's near here!!
@BraveActivist Politicians are like children, they get strange ideas that doesn't fit with reality and then they refuse to let them go. They should be held accountable for the consequences of their actions.
@SuperRegisteredUser Yeah i just don't get why everyone refers to them as neo-cons they are not conservative at all! The neo-con train of thought is we need big government in order for the species to survive. A true conservative is someone who believes we can take care of our selves for the most part, in small government & freedom!
If you have money, invest it in businesses, don't put it in the bank, because you will lose it. The bankers will make sure that you wont touch it. this has been going on since the medieval times. you put your money in the bank, the bankers keep it and spend it, and you get nothing in return. try to take more than 500 a day, they wont let you. It's your money, and you can't use it. When there's a debt, they use your money in the bank to pay for it, hence the topic of the video.
i hate gw bush, but this thing isn't totally his fault. him having the government take over the failed companies, those companies failed on their own and they wanted a bailout. it's not like they were successful and wanted to be left alone and then the gov unilaterally tried to take them over.
OMFG as a commie i wanna say that george bush is the opposite of communism, along with sarah palin and margaret thatcher (the old pm of britain, for all you ignorant americans out there).
also, hitler was NOT a socialist. yes, nazi means national socialism, but in the sense of racial exclucivity rather than empowerment of all workers internationally. hitler hated socialists as much as jews, gays and disabled people. he said so in his various writings.
Bush may or may not be a Communist, right now. But he will be, if he lives through this mess, when the Chinese get through with him, and the rest of those chump change-ling presidents that tried to steal the entire world economy away from the people who use it.
(Was there supposed to some form of logic in all that?)
Obama bought GM, and Obama Healthcare, enforce the Patriot Act, keep the wars going ect, ect, Obama is a Marxist, Bush is an Social Justice Christian clown, but of course, we can't talk about Communist Democrats cause there is no such thing, only Socialists Progressives in love with Marxists ideologies, but not to woryy...we are kicking out any Marxists and Socialists out of the Government, Reps and Dems, don't matter, it will take a few years, but this Socialist lovers are not gonna like it.
Well apparently George Bush "doesn't care about black people" so hes a fascist, and this dumbass newsreader is saying hes a communist. When in fact George Bush is right wing fanatic. This newsreader is so retarded.
@alpha555x ...george w. bush murderd the constitution!! so...therefore cannot be right wing at all. if loving my freedom makes me a "fanatic"....i'll take that as a compliment and say "THANK YOU!!!"
You know what I realized? Aside from America, there was another persona who had his blind contempt against the Communists and acted upon it. His name is forever more Adolf Hitler. But in this case, I believe Hitler's justification is much more sound and selfless.
nationalization of institutions, businesses, ect doesn't make a society communist. bailing out the rich doesn't make a society socialist. in communism, there is no state, no money and no class. how was it communist under george bush? cenk you fucking dumbass
@TheCanadianLeninist if you find that hard to believe go do some research. Bush's behavior has been communist from the very beggining. And why should it shock anyone? Their family has its roots in the Nazi/Illuminati regime. And the only people too stupid to see that are the same pandering fodder who suscribe to every maljudgement that administration made. Go look up communist.
@west7productions Nazi regime? The Nazis were NOT socialists. Yes, they were originally a socialist party, but anyone who looks at Hitler's policies (such as concentration of power within the wealthy) can tell that they are of fascism, NOT socialism. You've just demonstrated your own ignorance.
@TheCanadianLeninist Quote: The Nazis were NOT socialists. The very word Nazism means "National socializm". Also, facism is not a party, it is a ideology. The fact is, that Prescott Bush did make his fortune from the partnership with the Nazi party. It is very well documented, so don't pretend to know something you dont. The real point is, that the amount of nationalizing of US business' that went on during Bush's terms can easily be depicted as Communist behavior.
@west7productions Then let me be more specific; Hitler was not a Socialist, nor were the SS or the Nazi regime that Hitler commanded. Germany under Hitler and the Nazi regime was not a Socialist country.
@TheCanadianLeninist You sir are brainless. The very word Nazism means "National socializm. Stop trying to figure out a way to be correct about something you were offbase with from the beginning. I suppose I should expect no less from a defective who would claim a scum like Lenin who stood watch over the extermination of millions in death camps.
@west7productions Hitler did not practice sociailsm. Socialism would advocate concentration of power within the working class. Hitler concentrated power within the wealthy (government and business). Just because he was part of a socialist party, doesn't mean he was a socialist.
@TheCanadianLeninist It is well known that Stalin admired Hitler. Stalin met with Hitler. Adolf saw right through his weakness and attacked Communist Russia within a week after their meeting. Marxism is flawed from the start. It seeks power by assimilation, whether it's the working class or an idiot like Hitler.
The communist party in Russia recognized the Nazi's as like-minded Socialists, and your attempt to gloss over that is typical communist rhetoric.
@wheelchairbum A week after the meeting? Which meeting is this? (The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was made in 1939, and Operation Barbarossa was launched in 1941.)
And, I'm not exactly sure at what point I attempted to "gloss over" these allegations of Russia "recognizing the Nazi's."
If Russia did recognize them , it was likely to build friendly relations for the pact (which Stalin only signed in the first place so he could delay the war and bolster the Red Army's numbers).
@wheelchairbum you are aware that Stalin was trying to avoid going to war with hitler as long as possible right? he couldn't beat the nazi war machine and he knew it, so he allied himself with germany until he could build up his military because he knew war with germany was unavoidable. so whatever he said praising the nazis, he was just kissing ass trying to keep the peace....for the time being that is
@breedofdavid socialism influenced Marxism. Again TYT show how hypocrite and ignorant he is, AIG and other companies were already nationalize since the 90's. Particularly the banks and the contract made with financial services and federal reserve to control are monetary dollar value. That is why nobody did not see the collapse coming until happen.
@lovejen01 I know, i know, they really did hide pretty well in plain view, but now we can see them, We better be careful, these people already created 2 World Wars to get where they want it, the 3rd act is being play in Palestine, Socialists can't be trusted AT ALL, and TODAY they know that we know, they have been exposed in a way that the only choice they have is to strike with blood if it is necessary, the only difference is this time we're prepared, we already seen 2 World Wars.
@breedofdavid The thing WW3 is coming whether we want it or not. Stage of the game, it does not matter who is in power that will start the war, it will matter who will finish and hope it will be someone who be victorious as well bring people together after wards.
@lovejen01 I can't say that a 3rd World War is winnable by no one, imagine the destruction the other 2 wars did with just a touch of the technology we have today, a 3rd act by these Marxists will be as The Empire Strikes Back on steroids if you know what i mean, using the technology from today it could be a very short War, i can't say how bad it would be, but everybody had seen what Nazis did and Commies did, it was a disaster. And in war you can only fight fire with fire.
@breedofdavid i don't think Nukes would be used the countries that might will Iran if they have working weapon. Another do not think it would be as destructive people might think. The reason people think it will be like in the movies. It will be a long war that will go on for decades, most of that will stalemate.
@lovejen01 That is a more likely better scenario, but like you said, this ain't the movies, you did nail it, it could take decades, who knows, im just know Technology will play a big role in this War more than before, everybody's worst nightmare is that it could be a very long War, and the longer it gets the bloodiest it turns. I think is not Iran who we should worry about Nukes, is Israel, The Marxists and Radical Islam are working together to make sure Jews go to War by provoking them.
@C1Era Didn't Say he was a Socialist either and Hitler was not only the leader of that Union, but also the most vocal about it, of course is a fact Hitler was a Socialist Christian and a very devoted one too and that is not debatable.
@breedofdavid You said "Hitler was not a Marxist, he was the head of the Nation Socialists Party." That led me to believe you were calling him a socialist. I never mentioned religion in my first comment. I know you think Hitler was a socialist but when in power, that's not what he practiced.
@C1Era So Hitler the Leader of the National Socialist Workers Party in reality He was incognito inside the Leadership of a Union called NSDAP?They were socialist because of what they "advocated", while being fascist in disguise? Since Stalin had almost the same system, but didn't pay as much lip service to "the workers", he's not a Marxists either? In fact, the opposite? I think I understand now, it's what they say, not what they do? Just like someone calling himself a Christian when he is not?
@breedofdavid You're not understanding me. He said he was socialist, but he ran Germany like a fascist dictator...therefor he's not a socialist. Get it? People call him Christian because although he stopped practicing the religion he never outright said he didn't believe in God. I couldn't say which he is, but maybe you know more about that than me.
@C1Era Ohh please save it, if he ran Germany like a fascist dictator is irrelevant, he still was the leader of the Nazis aka National Socialist Party of Germany Workers, now people know he was the leader of that Union because history teaches that, every library, every book ever written by Hitler was a Socialist legally speaking, now although he stopped practicing Socialism (Lenin too) he never change the name of his Party "Nazi" as the Socialistic Union.I couldn't say since i am not a spy.
@breedofdavid Are you really that thick? I said - Hitler called himself a socialist. WHEN IN POWER DID HE RUN GERMANY AS A SOCIALIST? NO. I don't give a fuck what the name of his party is. Look up what researchers/historians say. I could say I'm communist and go and do the opposite of what a communist would do, am I still a communist? No, and historians agree.
@C1Era I am that Thick, Hitler called himself a Christian and you said; "BUT THAT IS DEBATABLE!" NO. Look up researchers? What researchers? The Socialist Researchers? To play Chess it takes 2 and if I could say "I Believe in the Jewish God of the Jewish Bible and go killing every Jew cause i don't like Jews is the same as if am a fascist but i pretend to be a socialist to killed socialists. Hitler was a Socialist, History remember him as The Leader of the Nazis, a Workers Union in Germany.
@breedofdavid I never said Hitler was Christian or was atheist. Some say Hitler actually lost his Christian faith later in life and I have heard the argument that he was a devout Christian all his life. I do not claim to know which. What I am saying is that in practice, Hitler was not actually socialist. He ran Germany as a fascist dictator, therefor I do not consider him socialist. I do not know ANY CREDIBLE SOURCE that would say Hitler was socialist. Nazi Germany was a fascist state.
@C1Era I do not know ANY CREDIBLE SOURCE that would say Hitler was socialist? LOL Credible Source? Who is the Source? Thats the question, because for a Fascist Hitler was indeed a Socialist because a Fascist is a Far Right-Wing Socialist, just like a Marxist is a Far Left-Wing Socialist, therefore it begs the question: FROM WHO's SIDE THE CREDIBLE PROPAGANDA SOURCE COMES FROM? FROM THE MARXIST OR THE FASCIST? Be specific cause those little mind games you Marxist love to play are way too exposed.
@breedofdavid Did you get my fucking comment? It seems like for the 4th time you mis-interpreted what I typed. I don't know any credible source that would state Hitler was a socialist, WHY, BECAUSE NAZI GERMANY WAS A FASCIST COUNTRY WITH A FASCIST DICTATOR. Please explain your thinking that Hitler was a socialist other than the fact that he was part f the socialist party.
@C1Era LOL, I don't owe you any evidence or anything, Comrade, I am a Fascist since i believe in God like Hitler, but you are a Socialist and Hitler was a Socialist too you like it or not, of course as Christianity who the hell knows what is a true Christian as your claim that Hitler wasn't a true Socialist just because he did not go by your own personal Standards of Socialism. DEJA-VU? Ok! Well if we go by that Hitler was a Right Wing Socialist just like a Marxist is a Left Wing Socialist.
@breedofdavid ...what? "I am a Fascist since i believe in God like Hitler, but you are a Socialist and Hitler was a Socialist too you like it or not, of course as Christianity who the hell knows what is a true Christian.."
Please, make an intelligible comment, one that at least makes a little bit of sense (I hope English is not your first language). You will get no where until you tell me how you think a fascist dictator of a fascist country is socialist.
@C1Era You hope too many things about me, the question is, Who are you? Why a Marxist still believes a Fascist will submit to a Marxist world desires? I did not call Hitler a Socialist, He did it himself. No country has ever been or will ever be "socialist" if we insist on the definition you put forth. But then it can't be a very useful definition, can it? Especially since millions of people call themselves "socialists" just like a bunch of people call themselves Christians when they're not.
@C1Era 'm starting to understand. A guy can be a socialist, call himself a socialist, advocate socialist ideas, gain socialist followers, and then rise to power. But if he does anything bad or unpopular, then he's "not a socialist", he's "a tyrant", Just like a Guy can be a Christian, call himself a Christian, advocates Christian ideas gain Christian Followers and then Rise to power. But if he does anything unchristian then he's not a Christian? Is that what you're trying to say comrade?
@breedofdavid Please inform me, how Hitler was socialist, what policies make him a socialist? How does commanding all your citizens to follow your ideals socialist? How is outlawing all unions socialist? How is killing everyone you do not like socialist? How is thinking that the Aryans are the master race above all others socialist? How is a Totalitarianism state socialist? How is a extreme militarism socialist?
@C1Era Ohh you sound just like a Christian defending Christianity . Hitler was the Leader of the Nazis, is that correct Comrade? The Nazis was The National Socialist Workers Party in Germany, is that correct too Comrade? If not then you should go to Germany and speak with the Prime Minister and tell him that C1Era said he don't want Historians to used the word Socialist anymore in any reference to Hitler cause C1Era gets uncomfortable with the History of Germany. Will that help your evidence?
@breedofdavid I'm not defending Christianity, I'm not Christian. I'm not a socialist either, but I'm smart enough to understand that just because some one calls them self something does not make them so. Historians don't call Hitler a socialist, they call him a fascist you fucking moron. Again, I showed you why Hitler is a fascist and you have yet to tell me what makes Hitler socialist other than the fact that he was in the socialist party. You obviously have nothing to back up you're opinions.
@C1Era Who's Historians? The Marxists Historians? Cause even Wikipedia call the Nazis "The National Socialist German Workers' Party" So you should write a letter to those Fucking Morons in Wikipedia and tell them that C1Era said that His Marxists Historians told him that Fascism got nothing to do with Socialism just like Fascism got nothing to do with Christianity cause you can't used the analogy that just because someone calls himself something don't mean that he is you Marxist Moron!
@breedofdavid Who's Historians? The Marxists Historians? Cause even Wikipedia calls Nazi Germany a totalitarian dictatorship, Wikipedia even uses Nazi Germany as an example under the description of fascism. So you should write a letter to those Fucking Morons in Wikipedia and tell them that breedofdavid said that His Marxists Historians told him that Fascism got nothing to do with Socialism. Really you act like a child. I have listed why Hitlers fascist. You have yet to do the same for socialism
@C1Era You have yet to do the same for socialism? LOL! I don't have to give nothing to a Marxist, is all mind games, Marxists never know nothing, they just assume things but when is about their enemies they're always sure an educated claiming that because Hitler called himself a Christian that makes him more of a Christian than Jesus himself but the very same analogy can't be used when is about Hitler's Socialistic Party even do he also called himself a Socialist? Cmon
@breedofdavid I plagiarized some of your words (not your ideas) to show you how much of a child you're acting like. This is very simple, you tell me what policies and ideals Hitler had that would make him socialist and I will tell you what policies and ideals Hitler had that make him a fascist. Instead you are running around the subject, avoiding directly giving me facts. I assume your reply will make some nonsense about how immature I have been acting and more avoiding the topic.
@C1Era Sure whatever helps you sleep Comrade. I don't care about your policies, Hitler was the Leader of a Socialistic Union called Nazi and that is a fact, now that your Marxists Historians can't stand that Hitler and his group of Socialist called their party a Socialist Union while being Fascists is another story, you gonna have to live with it just like a Christian have to live with it since Hitler call himself a Christian that is evidence enough for you Marxists to debate Hitler's Beliefs.
@cwbyfan2 Of course i don't understand your Socialist Marxist world view those Marxist Sacred Cows at Campus Command you to follow. Who can? Marxist change the definition of Socialism so much they see us the People as Lab Rats to create a Smurfutopia which Marxism has promised over and over again around the world leaving 2 World Wars in the process and counting, You're sooo right! As long as those Retired Priests better known as Marxists keep their "Consensus" on theory only YOU can understand.
@cwbyfan223 Joke? Sure! Lets call it that. Marxism is a Joke. You're so right. I agree with you, Marxism is an extended joke that got too old, too arrogant and too obvious that at this point in America something like Fascism have become Fashionable.
@breedofdavid I know those damn marxists and the fascists too, oh wait I forgot they were the same thing. WW2 marxists are teaming up with the jews and the fascists, did you know the marxist priests were also teaming up to create a jewtopia. Campus command marxists hahahahahah, don't understand lab rats jews world war two hitler is a marxist... That is seriously what you sound like, I can barely discern anything out of the drivel that is your argument.
@cwbyfan223 Focusing on me and not the subject Comrade? Ah that old Alinsky tactics are so over used we already know what a Marxist is and that is a backstabber, traitor, it will sale his own Nation, Community, Identity, Family and Soul to the very enemy . Don't you dare sit there and claim to be smarter than the rest of us just because you hold you Sacred Marxist Socialist Cows books as Education FOR ALL. What you don't get is that there is no such thing as "ALL OF US". Comrade.
@breedofdavid I don't claim to be smarter than anyone, I'm just saying if you want to be taken seriously don't shroud your argument in a blanket of drivel and conspiracy theories.
@cwbyfan22 Taking seriously by who? You? Atheists? Feminists? Communists? Muslims? Socialists? Marxists? Who? Who is the Brain Police that i have to debate my own Existence? Conspiracy Theories? The Fascist one or the Marxist one? The Tea Party? Oh yes i forgot! Thats not a Conspiracy, right comrade?Those people who are hanging blacks and gays from trees every Sunday morning while they read that Evil Book created by Jews, Yeah, like Bush! He switch sides! He is a Commie now! Ask the Liberal Turk
@cwbyfan22 Taking seriously by who? You? Atheists? Feminists? Communists? Muslims? Socialists? Marxists? Who? Who is the Brain Police that i have to debate my own Existence? Conspiracy Theories? The Fascist one or the Marxist one? The Tea Party? Oh yes i forgot! Thats not a Conspiracy, right comrade?Those people who are hanging blacks and gays from trees every Sunday morning while they read that Evil Book created by Jews, Yeah, like Bush! He switch sides! He is a Commie now! Ask the Liberal Turk
@cwbyfan223 Of course you agree.....even if you didn't, still irrelevant, This Marxist Nightmare we are living today is gonna be the last one, Next time a History book mentions Marxism will be under the New Dictionary definition:
Mar-xi-sm..A Theory created by a Group of Ex- Catholic-Retired Priests with the intention of Restarting Human History from day 1 By Subverting a Nation via Revolution against any Jewish Based Culture and Literature(Bible) better known as Western Civilization.
@C1Era NOTE:Please explain your thinking that Hitler was a socialist other than the fact that he was part f the socialist party?Thank you you answer your own question moron! duhhh!!!LOL This is chess not checkers? Please explain your debatable issue that Hitler was a Christian other than the FACT that he was part of the Catholic Church? And don't give me the old Main Kampf crap because if we quote Main Kampf please explain the Socialist quotes Hitler wrote about in that book too, comrade.
conservatives must die... i hope we have aother civil war... the south with their guns and bibles, and the north with predator missles and satellites :)... then we can see who wins in a fight, faith or knowledge
@wildboy789789 Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, etc. Are all from the south. Which side would they fight in your imagined civil war? Also, American satellites are launched only in two southern states. Why would the "north" as you call it, assume control of them?
@wheelchairbum it doesnt matter where the satellite is launched... they are controlled by the central government who you would have to fight in a civil war... im progovernment... saying that bill clinton would rebel, is like me saying guiliani would fight the republicans just cause hes from new york... and the government owns predator drones, the north wouldent lose any foot soldiers lol
ok, i think the big difference here is that the communists in the rest of the world took over private industry as a means of MAKING money. The US govt took over private industry because the failure of those private companies would, given the same management, spill over into the lives of the public (higher taxes, loss of services and goods, etc).
It's just the bankers pillaging. People are very dumb to go along with it. But FoxNews is brainwashing them and their education is sub-par. Controlled education means no naive dummy left behind from the brainwashing.
Socialists create problems in the free market by tampering. The free market responds in negative ways. Rather then admit failure the socialist tamperers site the negative market response as a reason to intervien more. Clinton puts higher taxes on CEOS, CEOs take lower wages and take stock options in lieu of payouts. CEO's control stock boards and make all the rules. CEO's become corrupted by tax policy and are thus encouraged to rape companies.
No country in the world has ever become pure Communist. Pure Communism, is a classless, stateless, democratic, socioeconomic system, in which property is shared. The U.S.S.R. was Socialist. Just about all the terrible things that have happened in 'Communist' nations are because of dictators and totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is not Communism. Communism is meant to be democratic.
You think you really care about the poor as if your some sort of champion of them. Well get off your high horse and see the results of your socialism..the horrific damage that these programs cause is unacceptable. people think they can just throw someone elses money at the problem and it will go away..wrong it feeds the problem and increases it exponentially. I wish people like you would actuallly get out and work with the poor. I do and I understand them and what hurts and helps them..!
The only differnce here is that people in private insurance are rapidly getting screwed by gov mandates that are impossed in on private hc and in essence what everyone hates about Private insurance is that they are being socailized already and it sucks because a small amount of people are paying for a shit load of dead beats through these mandates...which is expensive...so after ruining private insurance the Gov comes in and says we can fix it by doing more of the same and socializing it all.
I am all for socialized HC is we could all have the freedom to opt out and the government removed all its mandates from private HC and allowed free competition across state lines. It would be like letting people out of social security if they were allowed to invest in mutual funds...even with the current economy people would leave SS in hoards because the savy investor knows better. But sure leave in the socialist options let them compete against true free options and see what happens..!
..welfare destroyed the motivation to work and ennables drug abuse so well. But You would just argue that we just dont have enough socialism. even though socialism is what makes people dependant and not what motivates them to contribute. Medicine is not as important as food everyday..and yet we dont attempt to socialize food. private industry feeds the world and starvation is only found with corrupt government intervention. and so it is with medicine. the gov is the problem not the solution.
senario 1 all pts who claim chest px get paramedic transport and cardiac work up. The patient is 35 drug hx no job no insurance. mandate and fear of lawsuit forces over 10,000$ in services cuz bum wanted morphine. Child has asthma attack mom spent wellfare on crack instead of medicine. med responce not available because of new chest px legal gov mandate. Child dies. Asthma blamed for death.next.....this is what gov does and you want more of the same..I could go on about how the welfare...
In countires with socialized medicine people die while waiting for medicine because of the long waits and rationing of services. But they have to fudge the numbers and cover this deadly fact because the politicians would be hung out to dry if they admitted this. I personally have witnessed the death of children as adirect result of politicians pandering resources because of waistful socialist programs. The deaths are not reported as such instead they go down as natural causes.
Theres another thing about socialists...unlike mommy and daddy they dont love you. They could give a shit about you accept around election time..dictators not included. So if you think that daddy will save you from bullys like corrupt CEOs. Then you dont understand that they belong to the same club house...Not all CEOs belong to the Fuck You club but almost all politicains do and they are deeply in bed with the club Fuck You CEOs. They both fear competition when u vote with dollars or ballots!
Wait, so you would agree that public services such as police, fire and milliary..ect.. Should be a service provide to the people? then it all goes back to my main question why can't health care be one of those service? It's not wrong to ask for a service that most of the western world gets and we don't have to bring up stalin or hitler to prove it. If were going to spend money on a pointless war to kill people, why not spend money to help people.. Thats all I ask
Because it is precisely Government intervention that has done our present HC system harm while Private industry keeps it barely the best in the world. Private Insurance is quazi-socialist. As in the pooling of money in a social account for medical emergencies. Gov mandates take all incentive for deadbeats to contribute out of the private sector. The normal competition that drives excellence has also been regulated out of insurance and medical industries. We already have national HC in 2 forms..
..1 example is military which by all accounts is substandard to private. the other is when the poor call 911 for everything from a hang nail to a shooting. I know because I work in emergency medicine. 19 out of 20 carry no insurance so the people who try and contribute must pay the difference to drug seekers, system abusers, and really dumb people who are multiplying exponetially. This is killing the system. The hospitals are terrorized by lawyers and gov politicians who are clueless.
Of all the regulation the Gov does to screw of private HC ask your self why they dont regulate the pre existing cond clause. If they truly wanted to help people youd think they would do that. I think insurance should be higher for drug and alcohol abusers, and smokers but the gov wont let the insurance do that either. btw sometimes private FDs work fine in rural areas. They even have volunteer depts where they pay nothing. So blanket socialism is not a 1 size fits all as HC will be!
nether is complete privatization of government service, but it provides service to those who don't like having their health care in the hands of people that are for profit. Sure, anyone can argue that no system is perfect, but it's better then forcing only one system, the variability of choice is something that should be offered.
If your for true choice then we are in complete agreement. The only problem is as with all taxes I dont have the option to opt out...unless I have that option I really dont have a choice..now do I?
well the public option is basically a solution to that, it's a government run health care, however "the catch is" people who uses it will have to pay for it, so it doesn't effect your taxes. They can cut corners because their goal is not to make a profit but provide basic health care coverage for a low cost. The idea is even those who work min wage can afford it.
so they are going to lift all the mandates that private hospitals have to treat patient who have no hc and pass in on to the rest of us who work and pay into the system? Excuse me if I fail to believe that. I would be for a social HC system that provides bare bones minimum with new doctors or doctors who are near suspension ect. After all you pay for what you get. We dont give drug addics and alcoholics fee food at a 5 star restraunt. Other wise theres no incentive to be productive humans
I believe we need to reward hardwork, smart behaviour and wise and frugal decisions. While leaving some punishments in place for destructive, harmful and selfish behavior. Stupidity and laziness doesnt need to be rewarded or encouraged. These people are actually multiplying exponentially while the working class is becoming over burdend. and over taxed.
relax, the people who still don't have health care because they don't pay for the public option well not receive care, your thinking about another legislation that forces everyone to buy health care, similar to that of Mass.
I dont believe in the strong consuming the weak I believe in not perpetuating dependance, poverty and crime by creating a system that enables the worst people have to offer. The welfare system as it is not only does more harm then good it is growing exponentially and ruining the entire economy. With out any tough love we end up with a well intentioned hell on earth. I work with the poor and see the direct result of social welfare and it is an evil way to strip peoples motivations to succede.
we live in a non zero sum society when you punish the rich and middle class you punish the poor. when you reward the rich and middle class you reward the poor. This may seem counter intuitive but it is a mathamatical fact and has been proved by nobel lauterates using game theory. Even economists miss this fact some times and is why we have so much socialist pain and poverty in the world. Theres no pie of wealth to redistribute. nonzero sum says you just bake more pies instead of fighting 4 crums
What economist are you talking about? China is going to rule over us because they turned their entire country in to a factory and your going to tell me the horrible strife of the rich. During bush the middle class shurnk, Trickle down theory failed horrible, in fact the middle class is becoming endangered and your going to piss on my leg with your bullshit?
ask your self why China is doing well...because as a communist country it is acting very capitalist as is india. I said nothing about the strife of the rich only that you might think you are punishing them but you are punishing the middle class. Bush was also a socialist in his spending and taxing. You should love Bush because as republicans go hes just another democrat. Thats why I say both parties are 2 sides of the same coin just as the Hitler and Stalin were both super socialists.
Do you even understand non zero sum theory. It is an undeniable mathematical fact like 2+2=4 The Democrats think 2+2=3 and the republicans comprimize and think 2+2=3.5...they are both wrong and if you think the world is anything but nonzero sum then you are wrong as well. And if you are not willing to accept The biological factors that drive the poor to stay poor then you are doomed to make thier lifes a well intentioned Hell..that I witness sadly on a day to day basis!
"we live in a non zero sum society when you punish the rich and middle class you punish the poor. when you reward the rich and middle class you reward the poor."
It depends. For example, during the last 30 years the economic policy, based on the logic you're using, has been to do everything the rich said (privatizations, deregulations, trade liberalization, dismanteling of public services, cutting social spending, cutting tax for the richest people, etc), and the result has been...
@PavedStones That still doesnt change what I said. we are not zero sum, If you punish the rich you punish the poor. However their is such a thing as dooling out justice in an equal and "socialized fation" That means someone like bernie madoff or other wealthy people shouldnt be able to buy thier way out of the law. In this regard the government has failed. The sec also has failed to police short selling.
that real wages have been stagnating since 30 years for 80% of Americans, or declining by 20% for factory workers, while profits and income of the wealthiest as exploded astronomically (e.g. CEOs' revenue was multiplied by 20); and finally resulted in smashing down the economy. Cuddling the rich and adoringly repeating "trickle down!" while trampling the rest of the people under one's boot and shouting socialism every time somebody tries to do something about it doesn't work.
@PavedStones So the problem is not capitalism rather it is a failure of the socialist governmet entities to do their jobs policing corrupt people taking advantage of the freedoms inherent in a capitalist system. The government entities that have failed us then ask for more power over capitalism as a whole when they cant even do what they were mandated to do in the first place ...that is stop criminals. The result more regulation on good people while the bad continue to escape justice.
@PavedStones but Jews moved their capital to wherever the cheap worker were and took the factories with them.. the problems are in reality globalism.. we need to reinstitute protectionism and only buy american. Protected workers have Jobs but people like this fat Jewish cunt are just causing more difficulties.
mudslinger? corporatism takes advantage of ethnic people(s) as its displacing culture via encouraging open borders such as filipino workers in korean factories, indian IT proffessionals taking White collar work offshore and - corporatism privatises profit and socialises loss - jewish usury drives down the price and quality as "capital" chases profits via lowering the cost of inputs..calling someone a jew cunt is not racist - jews aren't a race. dumb fat jew cunt
Yes. But what does this have to do with Jews? There are Jews involved in this, and there are non-Jews involved in this, and there are Jews suffering from this. It doesn't have anything to do with ethnicity. Not being Jewish doesn't make greedy CEOs and corrupt banking practices any better.
"calling someone a jew cunt is not racist - jews aren't a race."
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That's an utterly stupid line. I noticed that's the new thing racists say these days to try to make their lunacy more palatable, but you really need a better argument than debating semantics. You know very well what the meaning of racist in everyday language is. If you want to get technical then whites, blacks etc aren't 'races' either.
If you really insist on quibbling on semantics, then I will formulate it another way: I consider your retarded ideology to put you on par with colonialists, Nazis and slave masters. Happy now?
If you can't name a thing you cant explain a thing..words are important. I am not any kind of Jewish prince (NAZI or AshkeNAZI) I am not even a racist.. In fact how can I be as Jews are not a race.. "Jew" is a descriptive label..like Black but black isnt negroid nor is white Caucasoid also Judaism is a Religion and Semitic is a group of peoples which includes Palestinians. Now I am happy (ish) :)
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YoungIvyScholar 1 week ago
Cenk seriously needs to look up the definition of Communism if he still thinks like this today.
SocialistChristian 1 week ago
I love how this jack off says 85 billion like its the biggest number he's ever heard but when Obama throws around 400 billion like its candy its suddenly okay to spend that money. Typical liberal hypocrite.
GoatFucker45 2 weeks ago
BARRAK OBAMA IS A COMMIE.. RESEARCH IT
JDPKRevolution 3 months ago
After reading a majority of these comments... I am shocked by the amount of people who obviously failed world history in High School....
HyperTheProfessor 4 months ago
@HyperTheProfessor High School? You mean Public Marxist Education in America? Had failed? Yet again another Marxist Experiment has Failed? You Marxists should give up! Another failure? I feel you comrade! This Marxist Socialist experiment is turning Idiots into "Useful Idiots".
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@breedofdavid ................What? I'm not a Marxist.. And public education is not another form of Marxism.. And don't call me comrade..
HyperTheProfessor 4 months ago
@HyperTheProfessor Well excuse me Comra....i meant Professor, but the Public Education System is a complete failure under the Marxist Class Warfare that it is been in the curriculum since the 1920s!, but you still have the guts to say People obviously failed World History in High School? They failed Math, Science, hell even Gym, I think Marxists should just step out of the Education System for a while and let some other Ideology to be the base on Public Education. But that is just me.
breedofdavid 4 months ago
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@HyperTheProfessor Well excuse me Comra....i meant Professor, but the Public Education System is a complete failure under the Marxist Class Warfare that it is been in the curriculum since the 1920s!, but you still have the guts to say People obviously failed World History in High School? They failed Math, Science, hell even Gym, I think Marxists should just step out of the Education System for a while and let some other Ideology to be the base on Public Education. But that is just me.
breedofdavid 4 months ago
He contradicts himself by saying bush is a communist but he had no choice
EmperorNaman 5 months ago
The Term 'National Socialist' has nothing to do with 'Socialist' Hitler was in the 'national socialist party'. Hitler wanted to appeal to the worker. In case you don't remember History. Hitler was behind the murder of hundreds of thousands of Communists since the beginning of his political career.
Mrmilly911 5 months ago
Bush a Communist? Common really, if anything He is a fascist
MuslimRebelRevolte 5 months ago 4
George Bush WAS NOT a communist. Communism is an economic system where all wealth is owned by the community as a whole - not by individuals. Capitalism is when people can purchase, sell, and invest as they wish. Property is owned by the individual. Bush was definitely not a true capitalist, but he was closer to capitalist than communist.
schwerinthegreat 6 months ago
Yeah check it out, anyone who calls themselves "socialist" as part of their title will be exactly like Adolf Hitler. Never mind that he came from a totally different political system, in a different time, and never mind that most of what he is VILLIFIED for has absolutely nothing to do with socialism.
baigandine 6 months ago
I am waiting for their next video called "Obama the ultra-Communist", hopefully we will see it soon, are we?
garciadelacadena 6 months ago
What's really funny is how left wingers think that conservatives worship Republicans in the same way that they worship Democrats. We criticize the Republicans and they think it must be some kind of stunt.
They simply cannot imagine how anyone could love freedom and independence without towing a party line.
Soothfish 6 months ago
Cenk is a hack, but Bush is definately a socialist/communist. Not really a difference tween the two. And the people love to have it so.
filoIII 6 months ago
If you're a conservative you'll most likely identify with communism and if you're a liberal you'll most likely identify with socialism. I would rather all of our government officials be moderates with impartial judgement. The more radical you (far left or right) are the less reliable you become as an impartial judge. Frankly, I'd rather have highly evolved artificial intelligence rule the world than any human being who has ever lived. At least then we would have a chance at fairness.
djsufferthing 6 months ago
I hope no one believes this fat, retarded asshole.
jeffhickman10 6 months ago
Nationalization has nothing to do with Communism, either Socialism, Cenk
Aspecialy if goverment that "nationalize" it is a PRIVATE PROPERTY of banksters.
MarshallJukov 6 months ago
Ahhhh with hindsight. Bush bought out the crap his mates were selling.
baalisgod666 6 months ago
This is bullshit.
iownage4youi 6 months ago
so is Obama
dunn98632 6 months ago
The central idea of Bush's ideology is self sacrifice of the masses for the sake of his ideology. He wanted people to sacrifice themselves at the neo-conservative altar (both going to war and paying for the war). This is very much like communism.
SuperRegisteredUser 8 months ago
@SuperRegisteredUser Why are they called neo-cons? The oldest tradition was a man only under the law of god Adam! You can't be a conservative if your growing the government exponentially!
BraveActivist 6 months ago
@BraveActivist Conservatism in USA is far from the real deal. Conservatism in USA is just free market capitalism with some add on bible nuts.
SuperRegisteredUser 6 months ago
@SuperRegisteredUser Yeah there are corporations funding big government, but the real problem is these are not conservatives at all they are the exact opposite wasters! Me my self i am an old school Ronald Reagen type conservative, but it is a fact when i say there is enough incentive in socialism! I never thought the world could be perfect only Allah is, but it could be darn close! If only our world leaders were not corrupting the socialism that's near here!!
BraveActivist 6 months ago
@BraveActivist Politicians are like children, they get strange ideas that doesn't fit with reality and then they refuse to let them go. They should be held accountable for the consequences of their actions.
SuperRegisteredUser 6 months ago
@SuperRegisteredUser Yeah i just don't get why everyone refers to them as neo-cons they are not conservative at all! The neo-con train of thought is we need big government in order for the species to survive. A true conservative is someone who believes we can take care of our selves for the most part, in small government & freedom!
BraveActivist 6 months ago
@BraveActivist Essentially they started to call themselves conservative when the left turned against them during the Vietnam war.
SuperRegisteredUser 6 months ago
@SuperRegisteredUser Why exactly did the left then betray them? Sorry i still need to touch up on history!
BraveActivist 6 months ago
@BraveActivist The turned against interventionism and war during the Vietnam war, and then they went to thr right.
SuperRegisteredUser 6 months ago
I kind of think they have a point. They took over America and destroyed the Constitution. Bush spent money and debt, and now Obama is reversing it.
syzygy501 9 months ago
@syzygy501 oobama is not even close to reversing it. if anything he's adding more to the debt pile
DLcKxFTR 6 months ago
corporate communism.
JImmy4336 9 months ago
Ignorance breeds ignorance, this should be your title name.
Drumboy5165 11 months ago
If you have money, invest it in businesses, don't put it in the bank, because you will lose it. The bankers will make sure that you wont touch it. this has been going on since the medieval times. you put your money in the bank, the bankers keep it and spend it, and you get nothing in return. try to take more than 500 a day, they wont let you. It's your money, and you can't use it. When there's a debt, they use your money in the bank to pay for it, hence the topic of the video.
nelsoncarmo26 11 months ago
i hate gw bush, but this thing isn't totally his fault. him having the government take over the failed companies, those companies failed on their own and they wanted a bailout. it's not like they were successful and wanted to be left alone and then the gov unilaterally tried to take them over.
exbronco1980 11 months ago
I can't stand this guy because he thinks all conservatives are like bush.
Most believe privatization of all industries.
I would love to chew out Cenk
Salvysahagun 1 year ago
@Salvysahagun
you probably dont watch enough of his videos. ive seen hundreds and he calls out EVERYONE!
BeastAP23 11 months ago
@BeastAP23
I think you missed my point
cenk generalizes too much
Salvysahagun 11 months ago
@Salvysahagun
you're right
BeastAP23 11 months ago
@BeastAP23
wow
Salvysahagun 11 months ago
OMFG as a commie i wanna say that george bush is the opposite of communism, along with sarah palin and margaret thatcher (the old pm of britain, for all you ignorant americans out there).
also, hitler was NOT a socialist. yes, nazi means national socialism, but in the sense of racial exclucivity rather than empowerment of all workers internationally. hitler hated socialists as much as jews, gays and disabled people. he said so in his various writings.
as thecanadianleninist said, the nazi-so
ColonelKusak 1 year ago
Bush may or may not be a Communist, right now. But he will be, if he lives through this mess, when the Chinese get through with him, and the rest of those chump change-ling presidents that tried to steal the entire world economy away from the people who use it.
(Was there supposed to some form of logic in all that?)
GameOver1260 1 year ago
Obama bought GM, and Obama Healthcare, enforce the Patriot Act, keep the wars going ect, ect, Obama is a Marxist, Bush is an Social Justice Christian clown, but of course, we can't talk about Communist Democrats cause there is no such thing, only Socialists Progressives in love with Marxists ideologies, but not to woryy...we are kicking out any Marxists and Socialists out of the Government, Reps and Dems, don't matter, it will take a few years, but this Socialist lovers are not gonna like it.
breedofdavid 1 year ago
@breedofdavid
HaHa this video came out 2 years ago
that hind sight must be nice
BeastAP23 11 months ago
And Democrats are Communists too. That makes all Democrats George Bush worshippers. I've only been screaming this for decades now.
ObamaPoundsBUTT 1 year ago
Well apparently George Bush "doesn't care about black people" so hes a fascist, and this dumbass newsreader is saying hes a communist. When in fact George Bush is right wing fanatic. This newsreader is so retarded.
alpha555x 1 year ago
@alpha555x ...george w. bush murderd the constitution!! so...therefore cannot be right wing at all. if loving my freedom makes me a "fanatic"....i'll take that as a compliment and say "THANK YOU!!!"
bandanamaniac 1 year ago
You know what I realized? Aside from America, there was another persona who had his blind contempt against the Communists and acted upon it. His name is forever more Adolf Hitler. But in this case, I believe Hitler's justification is much more sound and selfless.
MASHDOTCOM 1 year ago
Wait, if he says it's bad that George Bush bought AIG and purchased an industry, why isn't he mad about Obama buying GM? Hmmmmmmmmm...?
WastedMeerkat1 1 year ago
Oh my God, you fucking dolt. He's being facetious! Watch the fucking video, you idiot.
christosisanah 1 year ago
nationalization of institutions, businesses, ect doesn't make a society communist. bailing out the rich doesn't make a society socialist. in communism, there is no state, no money and no class. how was it communist under george bush? cenk you fucking dumbass
scatcoitus 1 year ago
George Walker Bush a communist?
This is officially the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone say (and I've seen a lot of Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin).
TheCanadianLeninist 1 year ago
@TheCanadianLeninist if you find that hard to believe go do some research. Bush's behavior has been communist from the very beggining. And why should it shock anyone? Their family has its roots in the Nazi/Illuminati regime. And the only people too stupid to see that are the same pandering fodder who suscribe to every maljudgement that administration made. Go look up communist.
west7productions 1 year ago
@west7productions Nazi regime? The Nazis were NOT socialists. Yes, they were originally a socialist party, but anyone who looks at Hitler's policies (such as concentration of power within the wealthy) can tell that they are of fascism, NOT socialism. You've just demonstrated your own ignorance.
TheCanadianLeninist 1 year ago
@TheCanadianLeninist Quote: The Nazis were NOT socialists. The very word Nazism means "National socializm". Also, facism is not a party, it is a ideology. The fact is, that Prescott Bush did make his fortune from the partnership with the Nazi party. It is very well documented, so don't pretend to know something you dont. The real point is, that the amount of nationalizing of US business' that went on during Bush's terms can easily be depicted as Communist behavior.
west7productions 1 year ago
@west7productions Then let me be more specific; Hitler was not a Socialist, nor were the SS or the Nazi regime that Hitler commanded. Germany under Hitler and the Nazi regime was not a Socialist country.
TheCanadianLeninist 1 year ago
@TheCanadianLeninist You sir are brainless. The very word Nazism means "National socializm. Stop trying to figure out a way to be correct about something you were offbase with from the beginning. I suppose I should expect no less from a defective who would claim a scum like Lenin who stood watch over the extermination of millions in death camps.
west7productions 1 year ago
@west7productions Hitler did not practice sociailsm. Socialism would advocate concentration of power within the working class. Hitler concentrated power within the wealthy (government and business). Just because he was part of a socialist party, doesn't mean he was a socialist.
TheCanadianLeninist 1 year ago
@TheCanadianLeninist It is well known that Stalin admired Hitler. Stalin met with Hitler. Adolf saw right through his weakness and attacked Communist Russia within a week after their meeting. Marxism is flawed from the start. It seeks power by assimilation, whether it's the working class or an idiot like Hitler.
The communist party in Russia recognized the Nazi's as like-minded Socialists, and your attempt to gloss over that is typical communist rhetoric.
wheelchairbum 1 year ago
@wheelchairbum A week after the meeting? Which meeting is this? (The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was made in 1939, and Operation Barbarossa was launched in 1941.)
And, I'm not exactly sure at what point I attempted to "gloss over" these allegations of Russia "recognizing the Nazi's."
If Russia did recognize them , it was likely to build friendly relations for the pact (which Stalin only signed in the first place so he could delay the war and bolster the Red Army's numbers).
TheCanadianLeninist 1 year ago
@wheelchairbum you are aware that Stalin was trying to avoid going to war with hitler as long as possible right? he couldn't beat the nazi war machine and he knew it, so he allied himself with germany until he could build up his military because he knew war with germany was unavoidable. so whatever he said praising the nazis, he was just kissing ass trying to keep the peace....for the time being that is
thatgodlessguy 1 year ago
@wheelchairbum Wait, did you just imply Hitler was a Marxist!? I'd never heard this one before :p
PavedStones 1 year ago
@PavedStones No, Hitler was not a Marxist, he was the head of the National Socialists Party
breedofdavid 1 year ago 8
@breedofdavid watch The Soviet Story !, marx is favourite autor for hitler...
apocryph5 6 months ago 6
@apocryph5 so true.. how do these libs miss this.. or should I say.. they do not want anyone to know it..
masterod1 6 months ago
@breedofdavid So true .. they always miss that point.. you would think they would know this..
masterod1 6 months ago
@breedofdavid socialism influenced Marxism. Again TYT show how hypocrite and ignorant he is, AIG and other companies were already nationalize since the 90's. Particularly the banks and the contract made with financial services and federal reserve to control are monetary dollar value. That is why nobody did not see the collapse coming until happen.
lovejen01 6 months ago
@lovejen01 I know, i know, they really did hide pretty well in plain view, but now we can see them, We better be careful, these people already created 2 World Wars to get where they want it, the 3rd act is being play in Palestine, Socialists can't be trusted AT ALL, and TODAY they know that we know, they have been exposed in a way that the only choice they have is to strike with blood if it is necessary, the only difference is this time we're prepared, we already seen 2 World Wars.
breedofdavid 6 months ago
@breedofdavid The thing WW3 is coming whether we want it or not. Stage of the game, it does not matter who is in power that will start the war, it will matter who will finish and hope it will be someone who be victorious as well bring people together after wards.
lovejen01 6 months ago
@lovejen01 I can't say that a 3rd World War is winnable by no one, imagine the destruction the other 2 wars did with just a touch of the technology we have today, a 3rd act by these Marxists will be as The Empire Strikes Back on steroids if you know what i mean, using the technology from today it could be a very short War, i can't say how bad it would be, but everybody had seen what Nazis did and Commies did, it was a disaster. And in war you can only fight fire with fire.
breedofdavid 6 months ago
@breedofdavid i don't think Nukes would be used the countries that might will Iran if they have working weapon. Another do not think it would be as destructive people might think. The reason people think it will be like in the movies. It will be a long war that will go on for decades, most of that will stalemate.
lovejen01 6 months ago
@lovejen01 That is a more likely better scenario, but like you said, this ain't the movies, you did nail it, it could take decades, who knows, im just know Technology will play a big role in this War more than before, everybody's worst nightmare is that it could be a very long War, and the longer it gets the bloodiest it turns. I think is not Iran who we should worry about Nukes, is Israel, The Marxists and Radical Islam are working together to make sure Jews go to War by provoking them.
breedofdavid 6 months ago
@breedofdavid Yeah...but he wasn't actually a socialist..more facist
C1Era 6 months ago
@C1Era Yeah...but he wasn't actually a christian..more atheist
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid Didn't Say he was either and that's debatable.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era Didn't Say he was a Socialist either and Hitler was not only the leader of that Union, but also the most vocal about it, of course is a fact Hitler was a Socialist Christian and a very devoted one too and that is not debatable.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid You said "Hitler was not a Marxist, he was the head of the Nation Socialists Party." That led me to believe you were calling him a socialist. I never mentioned religion in my first comment. I know you think Hitler was a socialist but when in power, that's not what he practiced.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era So Hitler the Leader of the National Socialist Workers Party in reality He was incognito inside the Leadership of a Union called NSDAP?They were socialist because of what they "advocated", while being fascist in disguise? Since Stalin had almost the same system, but didn't pay as much lip service to "the workers", he's not a Marxists either? In fact, the opposite? I think I understand now, it's what they say, not what they do? Just like someone calling himself a Christian when he is not?
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid You're not understanding me. He said he was socialist, but he ran Germany like a fascist dictator...therefor he's not a socialist. Get it? People call him Christian because although he stopped practicing the religion he never outright said he didn't believe in God. I couldn't say which he is, but maybe you know more about that than me.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era Ohh please save it, if he ran Germany like a fascist dictator is irrelevant, he still was the leader of the Nazis aka National Socialist Party of Germany Workers, now people know he was the leader of that Union because history teaches that, every library, every book ever written by Hitler was a Socialist legally speaking, now although he stopped practicing Socialism (Lenin too) he never change the name of his Party "Nazi" as the Socialistic Union.I couldn't say since i am not a spy.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid Are you really that thick? I said - Hitler called himself a socialist. WHEN IN POWER DID HE RUN GERMANY AS A SOCIALIST? NO. I don't give a fuck what the name of his party is. Look up what researchers/historians say. I could say I'm communist and go and do the opposite of what a communist would do, am I still a communist? No, and historians agree.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era I am that Thick, Hitler called himself a Christian and you said; "BUT THAT IS DEBATABLE!" NO. Look up researchers? What researchers? The Socialist Researchers? To play Chess it takes 2 and if I could say "I Believe in the Jewish God of the Jewish Bible and go killing every Jew cause i don't like Jews is the same as if am a fascist but i pretend to be a socialist to killed socialists. Hitler was a Socialist, History remember him as The Leader of the Nazis, a Workers Union in Germany.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid I never said Hitler was Christian or was atheist. Some say Hitler actually lost his Christian faith later in life and I have heard the argument that he was a devout Christian all his life. I do not claim to know which. What I am saying is that in practice, Hitler was not actually socialist. He ran Germany as a fascist dictator, therefor I do not consider him socialist. I do not know ANY CREDIBLE SOURCE that would say Hitler was socialist. Nazi Germany was a fascist state.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era I do not know ANY CREDIBLE SOURCE that would say Hitler was socialist? LOL Credible Source? Who is the Source? Thats the question, because for a Fascist Hitler was indeed a Socialist because a Fascist is a Far Right-Wing Socialist, just like a Marxist is a Far Left-Wing Socialist, therefore it begs the question: FROM WHO's SIDE THE CREDIBLE PROPAGANDA SOURCE COMES FROM? FROM THE MARXIST OR THE FASCIST? Be specific cause those little mind games you Marxist love to play are way too exposed.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid Did you get my fucking comment? It seems like for the 4th time you mis-interpreted what I typed. I don't know any credible source that would state Hitler was a socialist, WHY, BECAUSE NAZI GERMANY WAS A FASCIST COUNTRY WITH A FASCIST DICTATOR. Please explain your thinking that Hitler was a socialist other than the fact that he was part f the socialist party.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era LOL, I don't owe you any evidence or anything, Comrade, I am a Fascist since i believe in God like Hitler, but you are a Socialist and Hitler was a Socialist too you like it or not, of course as Christianity who the hell knows what is a true Christian as your claim that Hitler wasn't a true Socialist just because he did not go by your own personal Standards of Socialism. DEJA-VU? Ok! Well if we go by that Hitler was a Right Wing Socialist just like a Marxist is a Left Wing Socialist.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid ...what? "I am a Fascist since i believe in God like Hitler, but you are a Socialist and Hitler was a Socialist too you like it or not, of course as Christianity who the hell knows what is a true Christian.."
Please, make an intelligible comment, one that at least makes a little bit of sense (I hope English is not your first language). You will get no where until you tell me how you think a fascist dictator of a fascist country is socialist.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era You hope too many things about me, the question is, Who are you? Why a Marxist still believes a Fascist will submit to a Marxist world desires? I did not call Hitler a Socialist, He did it himself. No country has ever been or will ever be "socialist" if we insist on the definition you put forth. But then it can't be a very useful definition, can it? Especially since millions of people call themselves "socialists" just like a bunch of people call themselves Christians when they're not.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@C1Era 'm starting to understand. A guy can be a socialist, call himself a socialist, advocate socialist ideas, gain socialist followers, and then rise to power. But if he does anything bad or unpopular, then he's "not a socialist", he's "a tyrant", Just like a Guy can be a Christian, call himself a Christian, advocates Christian ideas gain Christian Followers and then Rise to power. But if he does anything unchristian then he's not a Christian? Is that what you're trying to say comrade?
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid Please inform me, how Hitler was socialist, what policies make him a socialist? How does commanding all your citizens to follow your ideals socialist? How is outlawing all unions socialist? How is killing everyone you do not like socialist? How is thinking that the Aryans are the master race above all others socialist? How is a Totalitarianism state socialist? How is a extreme militarism socialist?
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era Ohh you sound just like a Christian defending Christianity . Hitler was the Leader of the Nazis, is that correct Comrade? The Nazis was The National Socialist Workers Party in Germany, is that correct too Comrade? If not then you should go to Germany and speak with the Prime Minister and tell him that C1Era said he don't want Historians to used the word Socialist anymore in any reference to Hitler cause C1Era gets uncomfortable with the History of Germany. Will that help your evidence?
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid I'm not defending Christianity, I'm not Christian. I'm not a socialist either, but I'm smart enough to understand that just because some one calls them self something does not make them so. Historians don't call Hitler a socialist, they call him a fascist you fucking moron. Again, I showed you why Hitler is a fascist and you have yet to tell me what makes Hitler socialist other than the fact that he was in the socialist party. You obviously have nothing to back up you're opinions.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era Who's Historians? The Marxists Historians? Cause even Wikipedia call the Nazis "The National Socialist German Workers' Party" So you should write a letter to those Fucking Morons in Wikipedia and tell them that C1Era said that His Marxists Historians told him that Fascism got nothing to do with Socialism just like Fascism got nothing to do with Christianity cause you can't used the analogy that just because someone calls himself something don't mean that he is you Marxist Moron!
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid Who's Historians? The Marxists Historians? Cause even Wikipedia calls Nazi Germany a totalitarian dictatorship, Wikipedia even uses Nazi Germany as an example under the description of fascism. So you should write a letter to those Fucking Morons in Wikipedia and tell them that breedofdavid said that His Marxists Historians told him that Fascism got nothing to do with Socialism. Really you act like a child. I have listed why Hitlers fascist. You have yet to do the same for socialism
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era You have yet to do the same for socialism? LOL! I don't have to give nothing to a Marxist, is all mind games, Marxists never know nothing, they just assume things but when is about their enemies they're always sure an educated claiming that because Hitler called himself a Christian that makes him more of a Christian than Jesus himself but the very same analogy can't be used when is about Hitler's Socialistic Party even do he also called himself a Socialist? Cmon
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@C1Era And please keep plagiarizing my comments, i encourage you to do so, is the only way you gonna make sense comrade.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid I plagiarized some of your words (not your ideas) to show you how much of a child you're acting like. This is very simple, you tell me what policies and ideals Hitler had that would make him socialist and I will tell you what policies and ideals Hitler had that make him a fascist. Instead you are running around the subject, avoiding directly giving me facts. I assume your reply will make some nonsense about how immature I have been acting and more avoiding the topic.
C1Era 5 months ago
@C1Era Sure whatever helps you sleep Comrade. I don't care about your policies, Hitler was the Leader of a Socialistic Union called Nazi and that is a fact, now that your Marxists Historians can't stand that Hitler and his group of Socialist called their party a Socialist Union while being Fascists is another story, you gonna have to live with it just like a Christian have to live with it since Hitler call himself a Christian that is evidence enough for you Marxists to debate Hitler's Beliefs.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid Your lack of any understanding for what you speak of is astounding.
cwbyfan223 4 months ago
@cwbyfan2 Of course i don't understand your Socialist Marxist world view those Marxist Sacred Cows at Campus Command you to follow. Who can? Marxist change the definition of Socialism so much they see us the People as Lab Rats to create a Smurfutopia which Marxism has promised over and over again around the world leaving 2 World Wars in the process and counting, You're sooo right! As long as those Retired Priests better known as Marxists keep their "Consensus" on theory only YOU can understand.
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@breedofdavid You cannot be serious. This is an extended joke right?
cwbyfan223 4 months ago
@cwbyfan223 Joke? Sure! Lets call it that. Marxism is a Joke. You're so right. I agree with you, Marxism is an extended joke that got too old, too arrogant and too obvious that at this point in America something like Fascism have become Fashionable.
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@breedofdavid I know those damn marxists and the fascists too, oh wait I forgot they were the same thing. WW2 marxists are teaming up with the jews and the fascists, did you know the marxist priests were also teaming up to create a jewtopia. Campus command marxists hahahahahah, don't understand lab rats jews world war two hitler is a marxist... That is seriously what you sound like, I can barely discern anything out of the drivel that is your argument.
cwbyfan223 4 months ago
@cwbyfan223 Focusing on me and not the subject Comrade? Ah that old Alinsky tactics are so over used we already know what a Marxist is and that is a backstabber, traitor, it will sale his own Nation, Community, Identity, Family and Soul to the very enemy . Don't you dare sit there and claim to be smarter than the rest of us just because you hold you Sacred Marxist Socialist Cows books as Education FOR ALL. What you don't get is that there is no such thing as "ALL OF US". Comrade.
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@breedofdavid I don't claim to be smarter than anyone, I'm just saying if you want to be taken seriously don't shroud your argument in a blanket of drivel and conspiracy theories.
cwbyfan223 4 months ago
@cwbyfan22 Taking seriously by who? You? Atheists? Feminists? Communists? Muslims? Socialists? Marxists? Who? Who is the Brain Police that i have to debate my own Existence? Conspiracy Theories? The Fascist one or the Marxist one? The Tea Party? Oh yes i forgot! Thats not a Conspiracy, right comrade?Those people who are hanging blacks and gays from trees every Sunday morning while they read that Evil Book created by Jews, Yeah, like Bush! He switch sides! He is a Commie now! Ask the Liberal Turk
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@cwbyfan22 Taking seriously by who? You? Atheists? Feminists? Communists? Muslims? Socialists? Marxists? Who? Who is the Brain Police that i have to debate my own Existence? Conspiracy Theories? The Fascist one or the Marxist one? The Tea Party? Oh yes i forgot! Thats not a Conspiracy, right comrade?Those people who are hanging blacks and gays from trees every Sunday morning while they read that Evil Book created by Jews, Yeah, like Bush! He switch sides! He is a Commie now! Ask the Liberal Turk
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@breedofdavid I agree...
cwbyfan223 4 months ago
@cwbyfan223 Of course you agree.....even if you didn't, still irrelevant, This Marxist Nightmare we are living today is gonna be the last one, Next time a History book mentions Marxism will be under the New Dictionary definition:
Mar-xi-sm..A Theory created by a Group of Ex- Catholic-Retired Priests with the intention of Restarting Human History from day 1 By Subverting a Nation via Revolution against any Jewish Based Culture and Literature(Bible) better known as Western Civilization.
breedofdavid 4 months ago
@breedofdavid I concur...
cwbyfan223 4 months ago
@C1Era NOTE:Please explain your thinking that Hitler was a socialist other than the fact that he was part f the socialist party?Thank you you answer your own question moron! duhhh!!!LOL This is chess not checkers? Please explain your debatable issue that Hitler was a Christian other than the FACT that he was part of the Catholic Church? And don't give me the old Main Kampf crap because if we quote Main Kampf please explain the Socialist quotes Hitler wrote about in that book too, comrade.
breedofdavid 5 months ago
@breedofdavid He was a fascist.. Along side Mussolini..
HyperTheProfessor 4 months ago
conservatives must die... i hope we have aother civil war... the south with their guns and bibles, and the north with predator missles and satellites :)... then we can see who wins in a fight, faith or knowledge
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@wildboy789789 Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, etc. Are all from the south. Which side would they fight in your imagined civil war? Also, American satellites are launched only in two southern states. Why would the "north" as you call it, assume control of them?
wheelchairbum 1 year ago
@wheelchairbum it doesnt matter where the satellite is launched... they are controlled by the central government who you would have to fight in a civil war... im progovernment... saying that bill clinton would rebel, is like me saying guiliani would fight the republicans just cause hes from new york... and the government owns predator drones, the north wouldent lose any foot soldiers lol
wildboy789789 1 year ago
ok, i think the big difference here is that the communists in the rest of the world took over private industry as a means of MAKING money. The US govt took over private industry because the failure of those private companies would, given the same management, spill over into the lives of the public (higher taxes, loss of services and goods, etc).
canisdormit 1 year ago
ha ha ha ha i realy hope that you don't beleive what you spew you could be comitted as sociopath but you know and i know that your lieing right
MrDaleaaaa 1 year ago
It's just the bankers pillaging. People are very dumb to go along with it. But FoxNews is brainwashing them and their education is sub-par. Controlled education means no naive dummy left behind from the brainwashing.
Joeey 1 year ago
You're right.
Joeey 1 year ago
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TheDorkKnight1000 1 year ago
Socialists create problems in the free market by tampering. The free market responds in negative ways. Rather then admit failure the socialist tamperers site the negative market response as a reason to intervien more. Clinton puts higher taxes on CEOS, CEOs take lower wages and take stock options in lieu of payouts. CEO's control stock boards and make all the rules. CEO's become corrupted by tax policy and are thus encouraged to rape companies.
DK0526 1 year ago
These idiots are a sad reflection of today's culture.
truevoice08 1 year ago
No country in the world has ever become pure Communist. Pure Communism, is a classless, stateless, democratic, socioeconomic system, in which property is shared. The U.S.S.R. was Socialist. Just about all the terrible things that have happened in 'Communist' nations are because of dictators and totalitarianism. Totalitarianism is not Communism. Communism is meant to be democratic.
iownage4youi 1 year ago
who do these TYTs support? their ideology? maybe they're just makin' fun, right ?
Ozzy8181 1 year ago
this guy used to be a republican in his youth,but now I think from what I see that he's either an anarchist or a libertarian socialist
Civ1l7 1 year ago
stick to whatever it is you do that isn't analyzing other people's beliefs. Trust me, you're better at that.
blankportraits 1 year ago
You think you really care about the poor as if your some sort of champion of them. Well get off your high horse and see the results of your socialism..the horrific damage that these programs cause is unacceptable. people think they can just throw someone elses money at the problem and it will go away..wrong it feeds the problem and increases it exponentially. I wish people like you would actuallly get out and work with the poor. I do and I understand them and what hurts and helps them..!
DK0526 2 years ago
and you think 2+2= potato. What your taking about have been proven wrong since 1911.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Ok you win I give up! Hiel Obama!
DK0526 2 years ago
but, you still live in ignorance and hate, I only wish that you can understand the crys of those in need.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
ZeeeeeK Hialllllllll!
DK0526 2 years ago
two people you should look up Dr. Kurt Schumacher and Otto Wels
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
not
DK0526 2 years ago
The only differnce here is that people in private insurance are rapidly getting screwed by gov mandates that are impossed in on private hc and in essence what everyone hates about Private insurance is that they are being socailized already and it sucks because a small amount of people are paying for a shit load of dead beats through these mandates...which is expensive...so after ruining private insurance the Gov comes in and says we can fix it by doing more of the same and socializing it all.
DK0526 2 years ago
I am all for socialized HC is we could all have the freedom to opt out and the government removed all its mandates from private HC and allowed free competition across state lines. It would be like letting people out of social security if they were allowed to invest in mutual funds...even with the current economy people would leave SS in hoards because the savy investor knows better. But sure leave in the socialist options let them compete against true free options and see what happens..!
DK0526 2 years ago
..welfare destroyed the motivation to work and ennables drug abuse so well. But You would just argue that we just dont have enough socialism. even though socialism is what makes people dependant and not what motivates them to contribute. Medicine is not as important as food everyday..and yet we dont attempt to socialize food. private industry feeds the world and starvation is only found with corrupt government intervention. and so it is with medicine. the gov is the problem not the solution.
DK0526 2 years ago
senario 1 all pts who claim chest px get paramedic transport and cardiac work up. The patient is 35 drug hx no job no insurance. mandate and fear of lawsuit forces over 10,000$ in services cuz bum wanted morphine. Child has asthma attack mom spent wellfare on crack instead of medicine. med responce not available because of new chest px legal gov mandate. Child dies. Asthma blamed for death.next.....this is what gov does and you want more of the same..I could go on about how the welfare...
DK0526 2 years ago
In countires with socialized medicine people die while waiting for medicine because of the long waits and rationing of services. But they have to fudge the numbers and cover this deadly fact because the politicians would be hung out to dry if they admitted this. I personally have witnessed the death of children as adirect result of politicians pandering resources because of waistful socialist programs. The deaths are not reported as such instead they go down as natural causes.
DK0526 2 years ago
Theres another thing about socialists...unlike mommy and daddy they dont love you. They could give a shit about you accept around election time..dictators not included. So if you think that daddy will save you from bullys like corrupt CEOs. Then you dont understand that they belong to the same club house...Not all CEOs belong to the Fuck You club but almost all politicains do and they are deeply in bed with the club Fuck You CEOs. They both fear competition when u vote with dollars or ballots!
DK0526 2 years ago
Wait, so you would agree that public services such as police, fire and milliary..ect.. Should be a service provide to the people? then it all goes back to my main question why can't health care be one of those service? It's not wrong to ask for a service that most of the western world gets and we don't have to bring up stalin or hitler to prove it. If were going to spend money on a pointless war to kill people, why not spend money to help people.. Thats all I ask
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Because it is precisely Government intervention that has done our present HC system harm while Private industry keeps it barely the best in the world. Private Insurance is quazi-socialist. As in the pooling of money in a social account for medical emergencies. Gov mandates take all incentive for deadbeats to contribute out of the private sector. The normal competition that drives excellence has also been regulated out of insurance and medical industries. We already have national HC in 2 forms..
DK0526 2 years ago
..1 example is military which by all accounts is substandard to private. the other is when the poor call 911 for everything from a hang nail to a shooting. I know because I work in emergency medicine. 19 out of 20 carry no insurance so the people who try and contribute must pay the difference to drug seekers, system abusers, and really dumb people who are multiplying exponetially. This is killing the system. The hospitals are terrorized by lawyers and gov politicians who are clueless.
DK0526 2 years ago
Then don't get Government run health care. Stick with your private insurance who can drop your coverage or charge you for a pre-existing condition.
Putting a price on health care is something you can't do. It's like privatizing the fire department.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Of all the regulation the Gov does to screw of private HC ask your self why they dont regulate the pre existing cond clause. If they truly wanted to help people youd think they would do that. I think insurance should be higher for drug and alcohol abusers, and smokers but the gov wont let the insurance do that either. btw sometimes private FDs work fine in rural areas. They even have volunteer depts where they pay nothing. So blanket socialism is not a 1 size fits all as HC will be!
DK0526 2 years ago
nether is complete privatization of government service, but it provides service to those who don't like having their health care in the hands of people that are for profit. Sure, anyone can argue that no system is perfect, but it's better then forcing only one system, the variability of choice is something that should be offered.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
If your for true choice then we are in complete agreement. The only problem is as with all taxes I dont have the option to opt out...unless I have that option I really dont have a choice..now do I?
DK0526 2 years ago
well the public option is basically a solution to that, it's a government run health care, however "the catch is" people who uses it will have to pay for it, so it doesn't effect your taxes. They can cut corners because their goal is not to make a profit but provide basic health care coverage for a low cost. The idea is even those who work min wage can afford it.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
so they are going to lift all the mandates that private hospitals have to treat patient who have no hc and pass in on to the rest of us who work and pay into the system? Excuse me if I fail to believe that. I would be for a social HC system that provides bare bones minimum with new doctors or doctors who are near suspension ect. After all you pay for what you get. We dont give drug addics and alcoholics fee food at a 5 star restraunt. Other wise theres no incentive to be productive humans
DK0526 2 years ago
I believe we need to reward hardwork, smart behaviour and wise and frugal decisions. While leaving some punishments in place for destructive, harmful and selfish behavior. Stupidity and laziness doesnt need to be rewarded or encouraged. These people are actually multiplying exponentially while the working class is becoming over burdend. and over taxed.
DK0526 2 years ago
relax, the people who still don't have health care because they don't pay for the public option well not receive care, your thinking about another legislation that forces everyone to buy health care, similar to that of Mass.
I think it was called the "buy in"....
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
you believe in the strong consuming the weak is very destructive... Were talking about peoples lives, not business
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
I dont believe in the strong consuming the weak I believe in not perpetuating dependance, poverty and crime by creating a system that enables the worst people have to offer. The welfare system as it is not only does more harm then good it is growing exponentially and ruining the entire economy. With out any tough love we end up with a well intentioned hell on earth. I work with the poor and see the direct result of social welfare and it is an evil way to strip peoples motivations to succede.
DK0526 2 years ago
we live in a non zero sum society when you punish the rich and middle class you punish the poor. when you reward the rich and middle class you reward the poor. This may seem counter intuitive but it is a mathamatical fact and has been proved by nobel lauterates using game theory. Even economists miss this fact some times and is why we have so much socialist pain and poverty in the world. Theres no pie of wealth to redistribute. nonzero sum says you just bake more pies instead of fighting 4 crums
DK0526 2 years ago
What economist are you talking about? China is going to rule over us because they turned their entire country in to a factory and your going to tell me the horrible strife of the rich. During bush the middle class shurnk, Trickle down theory failed horrible, in fact the middle class is becoming endangered and your going to piss on my leg with your bullshit?
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
ask your self why China is doing well...because as a communist country it is acting very capitalist as is india. I said nothing about the strife of the rich only that you might think you are punishing them but you are punishing the middle class. Bush was also a socialist in his spending and taxing. You should love Bush because as republicans go hes just another democrat. Thats why I say both parties are 2 sides of the same coin just as the Hitler and Stalin were both super socialists.
DK0526 2 years ago
Do you even understand non zero sum theory. It is an undeniable mathematical fact like 2+2=4 The Democrats think 2+2=3 and the republicans comprimize and think 2+2=3.5...they are both wrong and if you think the world is anything but nonzero sum then you are wrong as well. And if you are not willing to accept The biological factors that drive the poor to stay poor then you are doomed to make thier lifes a well intentioned Hell..that I witness sadly on a day to day basis!
DK0526 2 years ago
@DK0526
"we live in a non zero sum society when you punish the rich and middle class you punish the poor. when you reward the rich and middle class you reward the poor."
It depends. For example, during the last 30 years the economic policy, based on the logic you're using, has been to do everything the rich said (privatizations, deregulations, trade liberalization, dismanteling of public services, cutting social spending, cutting tax for the richest people, etc), and the result has been...
PavedStones 1 year ago
@PavedStones That still doesnt change what I said. we are not zero sum, If you punish the rich you punish the poor. However their is such a thing as dooling out justice in an equal and "socialized fation" That means someone like bernie madoff or other wealthy people shouldnt be able to buy thier way out of the law. In this regard the government has failed. The sec also has failed to police short selling.
DK0526 1 year ago
that real wages have been stagnating since 30 years for 80% of Americans, or declining by 20% for factory workers, while profits and income of the wealthiest as exploded astronomically (e.g. CEOs' revenue was multiplied by 20); and finally resulted in smashing down the economy. Cuddling the rich and adoringly repeating "trickle down!" while trampling the rest of the people under one's boot and shouting socialism every time somebody tries to do something about it doesn't work.
PavedStones 1 year ago
@PavedStones So the problem is not capitalism rather it is a failure of the socialist governmet entities to do their jobs policing corrupt people taking advantage of the freedoms inherent in a capitalist system. The government entities that have failed us then ask for more power over capitalism as a whole when they cant even do what they were mandated to do in the first place ...that is stop criminals. The result more regulation on good people while the bad continue to escape justice.
DK0526 1 year ago
@PavedStones but Jews moved their capital to wherever the cheap worker were and took the factories with them.. the problems are in reality globalism.. we need to reinstitute protectionism and only buy american. Protected workers have Jobs but people like this fat Jewish cunt are just causing more difficulties.
myhandle2 1 year ago
@myhandle2
Transnational corporations don't have an ethnicity, racist idiot.
PavedStones 1 year ago
mudslinger? corporatism takes advantage of ethnic people(s) as its displacing culture via encouraging open borders such as filipino workers in korean factories, indian IT proffessionals taking White collar work offshore and - corporatism privatises profit and socialises loss - jewish usury drives down the price and quality as "capital" chases profits via lowering the cost of inputs..calling someone a jew cunt is not racist - jews aren't a race. dumb fat jew cunt
myhandle2 1 year ago
@myhandle2
Yes. But what does this have to do with Jews? There are Jews involved in this, and there are non-Jews involved in this, and there are Jews suffering from this. It doesn't have anything to do with ethnicity. Not being Jewish doesn't make greedy CEOs and corrupt banking practices any better.
PavedStones 1 year ago
"calling someone a jew cunt is not racist - jews aren't a race."
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That's an utterly stupid line. I noticed that's the new thing racists say these days to try to make their lunacy more palatable, but you really need a better argument than debating semantics. You know very well what the meaning of racist in everyday language is. If you want to get technical then whites, blacks etc aren't 'races' either.
PavedStones 1 year ago
If you really insist on quibbling on semantics, then I will formulate it another way: I consider your retarded ideology to put you on par with colonialists, Nazis and slave masters. Happy now?
PavedStones 1 year ago
If you can't name a thing you cant explain a thing..words are important. I am not any kind of Jewish prince (NAZI or AshkeNAZI) I am not even a racist.. In fact how can I be as Jews are not a race.. "Jew" is a descriptive label..like Black but black isnt negroid nor is white Caucasoid also Judaism is a Religion and Semitic is a group of peoples which includes Palestinians. Now I am happy (ish) :)
myhandle2 1 year ago