Saxophone is the most amazing classical instrument. It can take on so many roles. It can sound like an oboe, English horn, french horn, cello, violin... There is nothing better than a good classical player. So beautiful.
actually, adolph sax intended for the saxophone to be an orchestral instrument, so the reason they sound soo good is because they sound like the saxes they were intended to be. just a fun fact
Have you ever thought that the saxes you've heard are just terrible? It makes you horribly ignorant to be prejudiced against any instrument. Do you even study modern classical music? Saxophone is grasping quite the foothole there.
@archlordXd0 The saxes I've heard were good saxes players. I saw a group live that apparently is the only full range sax ensemble in the world with the only contrabass sax in Canada. They were great musicians, but I still hated the sound of the instrument.
I have not studied any kind of music in depth yet, but I have also yet to hear saxes blend in an orchestra. I recently saw some Copland that had a few saxes, that's all I know of saxes in the classical world.
There are a number of pieces that use the saxophone, but most people aren't aware that the saxophone is there BECAUSE it blends so well and doesn't stick out. Ravel, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Strauss, Milhaud, Bizet are a few of the bigger names from the Romantic period on that have used it well. Listen to Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet and see if you can find all the places where the tenor is playing (it is scored throughout most of the work).
Well mate, you can pretty much count yourself among the FEW people in the world that hate the sound of the saxophone. Also, as pointed out by another person here- Only having heard one piece by Aaron Copland hardly gives you enough experience to make such a broad generalisation. (Also, "to hear saxes blend" is an oxymoron). Cheers,
an orchestral sax player
(yes, I've played Milhaud, Bernstein, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, Ravel, Prokofiev, Gershwin, Glazunov among others...)
@sakonhon There are actually quite a few other orchestral players that don't like the sound of a sax.
You can hear an instrument blend. Sometimes that means to hear the instrument in the colour, and other times it does indeed mean to not hear it at all.
I've heard a few other orchestral pieces that include sax, but I really felt the sax playing style or sound would always stick out like a sore thumb.
I've also played in a high level wind orchestra, and I've heard enough good saxes there.
@theothercanadian The problem is that you keep contradicting yourself. You say you have heard "good" saxes in an "orchestra", but didn't like the sound. Secondly, you say that the players above don't sound like sax players. well, they do. Like good ones. To be claiming that they don't sound like saxophones, only proves that you have not heard good saxophone players before. Lastly, trust me, I understand what it means to blend in a orchestra, but the saxophone part is nearly always written solo!
@sakonhon I don't find the statements contradictory at all. Just because the players are good doesn't mean I have to like the sound. The reason I say they don't sound "like a bunch of saxes" is because they are mature enough to try to imitate the tone and colour of the original instrumentation.
Being an oboist, we have a LOT of exposed parts and solos, but we do often have to sit back and not be noticed. I assumed the sax parts would be similar.
@theothercanadian I'm in university for music, so I'd think the sax players here are good. I also played a wind orchestra arrangement of The Planets with some in Carnegie Hall so...
@theothercanadian A really good saxophonist playing a transcription will always try to expand their range of tonal colours to include more than just "good sax sound". Many whom may be considered "good sax players" are rather limited in their tonal range and seem to forget (not my definition of a good saxophone player!). On the second point, our orchestral setting is very different, with very few tutti or section parts, and mostly solos, to be performed cold (with no section parts beforehand)
@sakonhon Well then there ya go. I think we just went back to my original statement lol. I originally said something about "they don't sound like a bunch of saxes", and you just said many sax players are limited to just a "good sax sound"
When I listen to saxophones, I always find the tone repulsive. It's just a personal thing. I also find the same thing with French oboists and Euphoniums. When I listen to something like that I listen for the music, not tone.
@theothercanadian In answer to your first paragraph: yes, but that refers to "many" sax players, but not truly great ones. The players above are great players. Not because they copy the sound of other instruments but because they show the tonal variety that the saxophone is really capable of. You still prove that you have not heard many great players...
Paragraph 2: Perhaps you should always listen for the music! Only listening for the tone of a player is the mark of a true amateur.
@sakonhon but now we agree on the first paragraph lol
I've heard great sax players, including a sax quartet with the only contrabass in Canada. I've just never liked certain things about sax playing, such as jaw vibrato. It always sounds too bright, and not sinusoidal.
I'm not sure jaw vibrato necessarily has to sound bright .I think the type of saxophone and especially mouthpiece that the player has counts a lot in that.
and yet they weren't traditionally included in orchestras. I wonder why that was. Was it cus the old saxophones just weren't capable of sounding like they fit in an orchestra or was it cus the instruments were so new that people had to figure out how to play with a good sound or something? Anyone can have an intention but results often differ. I'm curious as to why that was.
@stealthswimmer Well, it sill happening today. The saxophone is not taken seriously. It's clear, as you can see in the video, that the saxophone has classical potential, but at the end of the day, it's up to the composers to write parts for saxophone in orchestra.
@mexsax1597 one of the biggest problems is that new composers won't write for saxophone in orchestra because if they want there work to be performed by big named groups (the LA Phil, NY Phil, London SO ect.) then they have to be as accessible to these groups as possible, who may have a resident saxophonist around who they call in when a big name like John Adams writes something that has it like in City Noir (my professor premiered that piece), but new composers who will write stuff don't get
@Sariasphs that shot, and it kinda sucks. As A composer and saxophonist, I would love to be able to write orchestral scores with saxophone included, but until I am being asked to write orchestral music by a big named group, I most likely cannot include saxophone.
@stealthswimmer They weren't included in orchestras because they're not part of the classical woodwind lineup. Classical woodwinds are: flutes, clarinets, oboes, bassoons. "Extra" (usually played by doublers) are: piccolos, tenor, bass and contrabass clarinets, english horns, and contrabassoons. They are occasionally used in modern orchestras, solo or in sections. Same goes for non-classical brass, strings and percussion.
@stealthswimmer: We're to good for orchestra unless we are soloing with them behind us :)
and Mr. Sax tried to make orchestra saxes (hence the non-transposing C sax line and the easily transposing F sax line). Eb and Bb saxes where accidently keyed so. Sax was one of the best people to walk this marble but he messed up when he made the sax. Notice Bb and Eb are both half steps away from there orchestral counterparts. lol but Eb is amazing c:
@TheHimom263 Not quite. The saxophone was originally intended for orchestra. Bb and Eb horns were mainly meant for military bands while C and F were for orchestral use. Bb and Eb horns were most definitely made on purpose.
@stealthswimmer Several composers were incredibly supportive of Sax, primarily Berlioz, but also Rossini. But something that many people don't know is that the first sax was the bass sax. It was originally meant to complement the tubas and basses, not be an agile middle voice. Those middle saxes came later. It's very possible that the addition of a new bass instrument was not wanted and so the saxophone was never adopted permanently.
@facemash There was a sort of resurgence of saxophones in the orchestra after Marcel Mule and Sigurd Rascher became know and showed that the sax could be taken seriously and used to great effect; however, it didn't last and saxophone use in orchestras is once again dwindling.
@facemash yeah thats the hardest part haha. my sax choir played this once, and it sounded pretty awesome, i played second sop and there were a couple issues-mostly on the high held notes. but we played it pretty good, but not this perfectly, this is amazing
My god, the impossible has happened!
A video of a good musician/s on youtube that hasn't been critiqued by 12 year olds who know nothing about music.
Fantastic job guys!
tackledparsley 2 days ago
The altissimo notes in the soprano are all so clean! This is just scary good.
nckdgmzsax 1 month ago
Absolutely STUNNING. Ten stars!
BlueStarCadet08 1 month ago
THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CHOIR I HAVE EVER HEARD. SO MUCH TALLENT HERE.
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OMW!!! thats good! i wish it had played the parts it cut out :c
TheHimom263 3 months ago
Where are these kids from? They're pretty awesome!
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@gsmonks They are all Asians! Where do you think?
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@ToriTheBeastinator "They are all Asians! Where do you think?"
? That doesn't tell anyone anything useful. Asians from where? "Asian" is about race, not about where they're from.
gsmonks in reply to ToriTheBeastinator (Show the comment) 3 months ago
@gsmonks ANND They are not kids...
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@ToriTheBeastinator "ANND They are not kids..."
Compared to someone my age, they're kids.
gsmonks in reply to ToriTheBeastinator (Show the comment) 3 months ago
awesome!
stealthswimmer 3 months ago
What a fantastic orchestra-- impressive! The videography & editing is nice too--
milograamans 3 months ago 2
Saxophones are the most universal instrument hands down. In the way that they can blend to sound like a different instrument. Saxophones rule!!!!
Coolsurfer5 3 months ago
I studied classical saxophone for three years in college and this is the best saxophone ensemble sound I have ever heard. hands-down.
jmuzik29 3 months ago
dang they can double tongue and triple tongue soo dang good and fast
Dasummerbreez 3 months ago
WHY DID IT CUT OUT?!? NUUUUU!!! it was wonderful to listen to!!!
TheChelseaCate 4 months ago
If i couldnt see the bari and bass sax i would think they were a bass and cello
hmsbarisaxplayer97 5 months ago
I would like to see them play mars
bryan90305 6 months ago
amazing!
hyperfied 7 months ago
Virtuosos. Every one of them.
amistrymister 7 months ago 2
beautiful...Only asians could pull something off like this
dap1mp 8 months ago
FABULOUS!!!! they would CERTAINLY get more cheers from these parts!
violinlady57 8 months ago
this is unreal , it makes me wanna sell my alto , or send back to yamaha lmao
noroma1970 9 months ago
Omg, they really sound like strings
Invincnerd 9 months ago
The only thing I don't like about this is that we don't get to see the whole performance. Jupiter is one of my favorite orchestral pieces.
greenmongoose87 9 months ago
WOW........no other words can describe
Duvalsaxplaya2012 10 months ago
Very balanced and who needs a full orchestra when you have a saxaphone or two, thank you very much enjoyed this.
scottbeedie 10 months ago
Um tema como este tocado por um grupo de saxofones com esta qualidade, estou impressionado, os meus parabéns...
fjcscinfaes 10 months ago
Saxophone is the most amazing classical instrument. It can take on so many roles. It can sound like an oboe, English horn, french horn, cello, violin... There is nothing better than a good classical player. So beautiful.
amaralucci1 11 months ago
So good. An in tune Soprano Sax section!?
115794 11 months ago
Really neat.
lietz13 1 year ago
Lol imagine how long they took to choose the each person's setup. Each is meant to sound like an orchestral instrument. The colours are perfect.
emeralddreams888 1 year ago
I think the reason this is so good is because they don't sound like a bunch of saxeas.
theothercanadian 1 year ago
@theothercanadian
actually, adolph sax intended for the saxophone to be an orchestral instrument, so the reason they sound soo good is because they sound like the saxes they were intended to be. just a fun fact
mexsax1597 in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 11 months ago 28
@mexsax1597 jsut because it was intended as an orchestral instrument doesn't mean itll sound good in an orchestra
im sorry, i have a prejudice against saxes.
theothercanadian in reply to mexsax1597 (Show the comment) 11 months ago
@theothercanadian
Have you ever thought that the saxes you've heard are just terrible? It makes you horribly ignorant to be prejudiced against any instrument. Do you even study modern classical music? Saxophone is grasping quite the foothole there.
archlordXd0 in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 10 months ago
@archlordXd0 The saxes I've heard were good saxes players. I saw a group live that apparently is the only full range sax ensemble in the world with the only contrabass sax in Canada. They were great musicians, but I still hated the sound of the instrument.
I have not studied any kind of music in depth yet, but I have also yet to hear saxes blend in an orchestra. I recently saw some Copland that had a few saxes, that's all I know of saxes in the classical world.
theothercanadian in reply to archlordXd0 (Show the comment) 10 months ago
@theothercanadian
There are a number of pieces that use the saxophone, but most people aren't aware that the saxophone is there BECAUSE it blends so well and doesn't stick out. Ravel, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Strauss, Milhaud, Bizet are a few of the bigger names from the Romantic period on that have used it well. Listen to Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet and see if you can find all the places where the tenor is playing (it is scored throughout most of the work).
jzer21 in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 10 months ago 2
@theothercanadian
Well mate, you can pretty much count yourself among the FEW people in the world that hate the sound of the saxophone. Also, as pointed out by another person here- Only having heard one piece by Aaron Copland hardly gives you enough experience to make such a broad generalisation. (Also, "to hear saxes blend" is an oxymoron). Cheers,
an orchestral sax player
(yes, I've played Milhaud, Bernstein, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, Ravel, Prokofiev, Gershwin, Glazunov among others...)
sakonhon in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 8 months ago
@sakonhon There are actually quite a few other orchestral players that don't like the sound of a sax.
You can hear an instrument blend. Sometimes that means to hear the instrument in the colour, and other times it does indeed mean to not hear it at all.
I've heard a few other orchestral pieces that include sax, but I really felt the sax playing style or sound would always stick out like a sore thumb.
I've also played in a high level wind orchestra, and I've heard enough good saxes there.
theothercanadian in reply to sakonhon (Show the comment) 8 months ago
@theothercanadian The problem is that you keep contradicting yourself. You say you have heard "good" saxes in an "orchestra", but didn't like the sound. Secondly, you say that the players above don't sound like sax players. well, they do. Like good ones. To be claiming that they don't sound like saxophones, only proves that you have not heard good saxophone players before. Lastly, trust me, I understand what it means to blend in a orchestra, but the saxophone part is nearly always written solo!
sakonhon in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 8 months ago
@sakonhon I don't find the statements contradictory at all. Just because the players are good doesn't mean I have to like the sound. The reason I say they don't sound "like a bunch of saxes" is because they are mature enough to try to imitate the tone and colour of the original instrumentation.
Being an oboist, we have a LOT of exposed parts and solos, but we do often have to sit back and not be noticed. I assumed the sax parts would be similar.
theothercanadian in reply to sakonhon (Show the comment) 8 months ago
@theothercanadian I'm in university for music, so I'd think the sax players here are good. I also played a wind orchestra arrangement of The Planets with some in Carnegie Hall so...
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sakonhon in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 7 months ago
@theothercanadian A really good saxophonist playing a transcription will always try to expand their range of tonal colours to include more than just "good sax sound". Many whom may be considered "good sax players" are rather limited in their tonal range and seem to forget (not my definition of a good saxophone player!). On the second point, our orchestral setting is very different, with very few tutti or section parts, and mostly solos, to be performed cold (with no section parts beforehand)
sakonhon in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 7 months ago
@sakonhon Well then there ya go. I think we just went back to my original statement lol. I originally said something about "they don't sound like a bunch of saxes", and you just said many sax players are limited to just a "good sax sound"
When I listen to saxophones, I always find the tone repulsive. It's just a personal thing. I also find the same thing with French oboists and Euphoniums. When I listen to something like that I listen for the music, not tone.
theothercanadian in reply to sakonhon (Show the comment) 7 months ago
@theothercanadian In answer to your first paragraph: yes, but that refers to "many" sax players, but not truly great ones. The players above are great players. Not because they copy the sound of other instruments but because they show the tonal variety that the saxophone is really capable of. You still prove that you have not heard many great players...
Paragraph 2: Perhaps you should always listen for the music! Only listening for the tone of a player is the mark of a true amateur.
sakonhon in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 7 months ago
@sakonhon but now we agree on the first paragraph lol
I've heard great sax players, including a sax quartet with the only contrabass in Canada. I've just never liked certain things about sax playing, such as jaw vibrato. It always sounds too bright, and not sinusoidal.
theothercanadian in reply to sakonhon (Show the comment) 7 months ago
@theothercanadian
I'm not sure jaw vibrato necessarily has to sound bright .I think the type of saxophone and especially mouthpiece that the player has counts a lot in that.
stealthswimmer in reply to theothercanadian (Show the comment) 3 months ago
@mexsax1597
Which is why I like classical sax over jazz.
AnreRakam in reply to mexsax1597 (Show the comment) 4 months ago
@mexsax1597
and yet they weren't traditionally included in orchestras. I wonder why that was. Was it cus the old saxophones just weren't capable of sounding like they fit in an orchestra or was it cus the instruments were so new that people had to figure out how to play with a good sound or something? Anyone can have an intention but results often differ. I'm curious as to why that was.
stealthswimmer in reply to mexsax1597 (Show the comment) 3 months ago
@stealthswimmer Well, it sill happening today. The saxophone is not taken seriously. It's clear, as you can see in the video, that the saxophone has classical potential, but at the end of the day, it's up to the composers to write parts for saxophone in orchestra.
mexsax1597 in reply to stealthswimmer (Show the comment) 3 months ago 3
@mexsax1597
yeah, i wish that weren't the case. :(
Oh well, this vid showcases some absolutely beautiful music
stealthswimmer in reply to mexsax1597 (Show the comment) 3 months ago
@mexsax1597 one of the biggest problems is that new composers won't write for saxophone in orchestra because if they want there work to be performed by big named groups (the LA Phil, NY Phil, London SO ect.) then they have to be as accessible to these groups as possible, who may have a resident saxophonist around who they call in when a big name like John Adams writes something that has it like in City Noir (my professor premiered that piece), but new composers who will write stuff don't get
Sariasphs in reply to mexsax1597 (Show the comment) 1 month ago
@Sariasphs that shot, and it kinda sucks. As A composer and saxophonist, I would love to be able to write orchestral scores with saxophone included, but until I am being asked to write orchestral music by a big named group, I most likely cannot include saxophone.
Sariasphs in reply to Sariasphs (Show the comment) 1 month ago
@stealthswimmer They weren't included in orchestras because they're not part of the classical woodwind lineup. Classical woodwinds are: flutes, clarinets, oboes, bassoons. "Extra" (usually played by doublers) are: piccolos, tenor, bass and contrabass clarinets, english horns, and contrabassoons. They are occasionally used in modern orchestras, solo or in sections. Same goes for non-classical brass, strings and percussion.
gsmonks in reply to stealthswimmer (Show the comment) 3 months ago
@stealthswimmer: We're to good for orchestra unless we are soloing with them behind us :)
and Mr. Sax tried to make orchestra saxes (hence the non-transposing C sax line and the easily transposing F sax line). Eb and Bb saxes where accidently keyed so. Sax was one of the best people to walk this marble but he messed up when he made the sax. Notice Bb and Eb are both half steps away from there orchestral counterparts. lol but Eb is amazing c:
I think saxes should always make choirs :]
TheHimom263 in reply to stealthswimmer (Show the comment) 3 months ago
@TheHimom263 Not quite. The saxophone was originally intended for orchestra. Bb and Eb horns were mainly meant for military bands while C and F were for orchestral use. Bb and Eb horns were most definitely made on purpose.
facemash in reply to TheHimom263 (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@stealthswimmer Several composers were incredibly supportive of Sax, primarily Berlioz, but also Rossini. But something that many people don't know is that the first sax was the bass sax. It was originally meant to complement the tubas and basses, not be an agile middle voice. Those middle saxes came later. It's very possible that the addition of a new bass instrument was not wanted and so the saxophone was never adopted permanently.
facemash in reply to stealthswimmer (Show the comment) 2 months ago
@facemash There was a sort of resurgence of saxophones in the orchestra after Marcel Mule and Sigurd Rascher became know and showed that the sax could be taken seriously and used to great effect; however, it didn't last and saxophone use in orchestras is once again dwindling.
facemash in reply to facemash (Show the comment) 2 months ago
This is AMAZING :D
Kwuakles 1 year ago
thank you thank you thank you thank you!
abadcliche 1 year ago
Perfect, the only thing that can be said, IT's perfect. No conductor, perfectly together in every aspect
gravitypullsyoudown 1 year ago 4
That was great. Wow !
thewelford 1 year ago
AMAZING...3:56 really sounds like an English Horn
daltoncpierce 1 year ago
Que fliapadaa ! Quee guaaay !
maaristas96 1 year ago
oh wow.....
OHHHHHH WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWW
bboy01152 1 year ago
Absolutely a fantastic performance and an outstanding orchestration!
Saxqtet 1 year ago 4
They're very good! Those beautiful girls are awesome! This is best place to find a girlfriend right? Lol , I'm sure they can s... Good too!
TheBcdragon 1 year ago
wow .. they r soooooooooo in tune >_<
yellowflash619 1 year ago 2
Ridiculously good. Those sopranos are perfectly in tune.
facemash 1 year ago 29
@facemash Im saxophonist and I think the same thing, great tune, great technique!
oaoJ69Joao in reply to facemash (Show the comment) 7 months ago
@facemash yeah thats the hardest part haha. my sax choir played this once, and it sounded pretty awesome, i played second sop and there were a couple issues-mostly on the high held notes. but we played it pretty good, but not this perfectly, this is amazing
nickhornbacher in reply to facemash (Show the comment) 4 months ago