It's because Toyota cars are better overall than Saturns. Most of what Toyota is selling, are gas cars. This has nothing to do with EVs and everything to do with how well made and interesting the car is to the public.
Oh, and Toyota still makes most of their money off of Tundras and Forerunners...hardly eco-boxes.
WRONG! It's all about the economy. Gas is cheaper because the economy crashed which left many people doing less driving to work and back. Hard to to believe you say Toyotas are better cars because of all the recalls their having. At least no one got killed from a faulty gas peddle from a Saturn.
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You should have walked in that Toyota dealership and surprise the hell out of them with your EV rav4. I bet many of those people employed there never knew that a Toyota EV RAV4 exist?
You think this guy HASN'T done that? That's why you only see these clips, with him narrating while taping. If there was such a great groundswell of demand, he would post it.
The lack of such a clip speaks volumes more than this rambling commentary.
Well I'm sure couldn't do lot for 3:54 worth of time. Not everyone could afford a good camera. Even if he could, the Toyota management would ask him to leave their property.
Not if they're trying to drum up business for a line of EVs and, as this guy keeps alleging, there's such a huge untapped demand.
No business is going to get rid of free advertising. If he's simply going in and trying to be a muckraker, however, yeah. He's gonna be given the boot.
That's the rub. People KNOW about electric cars. They know about the Tesla and the GeeWhiz (however it's spelt). For most folks, since the electric car and the hybrid are both more expensive to own and maintain than a standard ICE (as far as individual infrastructure costs, exotic component maintenance, and initial purchase price), they're not interested. The Hybrid Civic, for instance, was shown to need 15 years to make up the difference in price by any fuel savings over a normal Civic.
Well lets put this in perspective if it's all about costs:
1-Flat Screen TV's 10 years ago were very expensive and now everyone just about has one.
2-DVD's , Blu-ray, computers, cell phones were expensive too.
3-If you compare a gasoline car with all the maintenance that requires just to keep it up to value is more expensive than anything if have no warranty. How many oil changes, repairs compares to anything?
4-EV cars have fewer parts and they are much cleaner too.
The argument keeps on coming up that EVs are cleaner, and there's no real world proof of this.
Most EVs are more polluting, considering the amount of battery materiel than CANNOT be recycled or reused, and must be discarded...Also considering the fact that they require far more charges than anyone cares to admit, thus creating more stress on the already-stressed grid (more repairs, outages, and pollution from increased generation to meet demand.
The existing electrical grid's off-peak capacity for power generation is sufficient to power 73% of commutes to and from work by cars, light trucks, SUVs, and vans without building a single new power plant if people drive plug-in hybrids, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. In addition, the existing nighttime electricity can be stored in plug-in vehicles and retrieved during peak-demand hours through vehicle-to-grid technology for use by the grid
The recycling rate for lead-acid batteries is about 98% in the U.S. EVs will use newer chemistries such as NiMH and LiIon. Both of these metals are inherently more valuable than lead, and since the batteries are quite large, the value of the spent battery packs will be such that the recycling rate will approach 100%. It is illegal to dispose of these batteries in a landfill and their value will ensure that is not their fate.
I don't doubt nickel and lithium are more rare than lead, but the processes to reuse them are, in most areas, too cost-prohibitive to be done. The company gets fined for dropping the stuff as landfill or waste, but do it anyway since it's more economically viable for them (that was one of the reasons I was given for core charges, by the way).
At this point in time, our grid is strained with new homes, as well as the 'green' generators (wind and solar). It is not ready for EVs as well.
Like it or not, something has to be done about our energy consumption. If we stay the course, we will be in more danger of relying more and more on foreign sources of energy and a dirty planet.
I'm not sure why we would have to rely on foreign sources, since we have more than enough of our own IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO DRILL AND REFINE IT.
Also, there's a great deal of plastic needed for the manufacture of cars light enough to make pseudo-viable electric cars. Where do you think plastic comes from? That's right...OIL.
Drilling for more oil will not lower the price. It needs competition for it to become lower. So what plastic is made from oil. If you would rather remain pessimistic without studying the benefits of a PHEV or EV: Ask or tell the drivers who own them if their vehicles are pseudo-viable. They're saving money then the rest of us. The benefits out ways the costs overtime.
Over 15 years, the Prius might break even regarding the cost over a standard car. Over time, ANYTHING might pan out. The operative term is 'might.'
Competition works hand-in-hand with SUPPLY and DEMAND. You guys keep leaving that out. If there's more oil, the PRICE GOES DOWN. If there's less, or it needs more shipping to get it to market, THE PRICE GOES UP.
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They will sell them off eventually; what the oil-based car dealers have found is that everything sells, eventually, at SOME price. But not profitably.
They'll sell 'em for scrap--what small cars are. I notice there weren't any Vues or whatever Saturn's SUV was...only the small cars. And, interestingly, Toyota doesn't make a lot of money off of their corollas or small gas nippers...they make it off of Camrys and Pickups and SUVs. THAT'S where the market STILL IS.
Interesting, while you've been putting down SUVs as a bad bet, you're DRIVING one. Again...speaks volumes without a word.
The existing electrical grid's off-peak capacity for power generation is sufficient to power 73% of commutes to and from work by cars, light trucks, SUVs, and vans without building a single new power plant if people drive plug-in hybrids, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. In addition, the existing nighttime electricity can be stored in plug-in vehicles and retrieved during peak-demand hours through vehicle-to-grid technology for use by the grid.
It's because Toyota cars are better overall than Saturns. Most of what Toyota is selling, are gas cars. This has nothing to do with EVs and everything to do with how well made and interesting the car is to the public.
Oh, and Toyota still makes most of their money off of Tundras and Forerunners...hardly eco-boxes.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
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WRONG! It's all about the economy. Gas is cheaper because the economy crashed which left many people doing less driving to work and back. Hard to to believe you say Toyotas are better cars because of all the recalls their having. At least no one got killed from a faulty gas peddle from a Saturn.
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Stevencdw 2 years ago
really could be EV2 and EV3 by now. Sad.
ndyt 2 years ago 4
You should have walked in that Toyota dealership and surprise the hell out of them with your EV rav4. I bet many of those people employed there never knew that a Toyota EV RAV4 exist?
DRSmetal 2 years ago 5
ha! suiriusly
jjaquu 2 years ago 2
You think this guy HASN'T done that? That's why you only see these clips, with him narrating while taping. If there was such a great groundswell of demand, he would post it.
The lack of such a clip speaks volumes more than this rambling commentary.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Well I'm sure couldn't do lot for 3:54 worth of time. Not everyone could afford a good camera. Even if he could, the Toyota management would ask him to leave their property.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
Not if they're trying to drum up business for a line of EVs and, as this guy keeps alleging, there's such a huge untapped demand.
No business is going to get rid of free advertising. If he's simply going in and trying to be a muckraker, however, yeah. He's gonna be given the boot.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
There would be been a huge demand if more people knew. If you watch the movie "Who killed the Electric" That would answer some questions of demand.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
"Car"
DRSmetal 2 years ago
That's the rub. People KNOW about electric cars. They know about the Tesla and the GeeWhiz (however it's spelt). For most folks, since the electric car and the hybrid are both more expensive to own and maintain than a standard ICE (as far as individual infrastructure costs, exotic component maintenance, and initial purchase price), they're not interested. The Hybrid Civic, for instance, was shown to need 15 years to make up the difference in price by any fuel savings over a normal Civic.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Well lets put this in perspective if it's all about costs:
1-Flat Screen TV's 10 years ago were very expensive and now everyone just about has one.
2-DVD's , Blu-ray, computers, cell phones were expensive too.
3-If you compare a gasoline car with all the maintenance that requires just to keep it up to value is more expensive than anything if have no warranty. How many oil changes, repairs compares to anything?
4-EV cars have fewer parts and they are much cleaner too.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
The argument keeps on coming up that EVs are cleaner, and there's no real world proof of this.
Most EVs are more polluting, considering the amount of battery materiel than CANNOT be recycled or reused, and must be discarded...Also considering the fact that they require far more charges than anyone cares to admit, thus creating more stress on the already-stressed grid (more repairs, outages, and pollution from increased generation to meet demand.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
The existing electrical grid's off-peak capacity for power generation is sufficient to power 73% of commutes to and from work by cars, light trucks, SUVs, and vans without building a single new power plant if people drive plug-in hybrids, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. In addition, the existing nighttime electricity can be stored in plug-in vehicles and retrieved during peak-demand hours through vehicle-to-grid technology for use by the grid
DRSmetal 2 years ago
The recycling rate for lead-acid batteries is about 98% in the U.S. EVs will use newer chemistries such as NiMH and LiIon. Both of these metals are inherently more valuable than lead, and since the batteries are quite large, the value of the spent battery packs will be such that the recycling rate will approach 100%. It is illegal to dispose of these batteries in a landfill and their value will ensure that is not their fate.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
I don't doubt nickel and lithium are more rare than lead, but the processes to reuse them are, in most areas, too cost-prohibitive to be done. The company gets fined for dropping the stuff as landfill or waste, but do it anyway since it's more economically viable for them (that was one of the reasons I was given for core charges, by the way).
At this point in time, our grid is strained with new homes, as well as the 'green' generators (wind and solar). It is not ready for EVs as well.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Like it or not, something has to be done about our energy consumption. If we stay the course, we will be in more danger of relying more and more on foreign sources of energy and a dirty planet.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
I'm not sure why we would have to rely on foreign sources, since we have more than enough of our own IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO DRILL AND REFINE IT.
Also, there's a great deal of plastic needed for the manufacture of cars light enough to make pseudo-viable electric cars. Where do you think plastic comes from? That's right...OIL.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
Drilling for more oil will not lower the price. It needs competition for it to become lower. So what plastic is made from oil. If you would rather remain pessimistic without studying the benefits of a PHEV or EV: Ask or tell the drivers who own them if their vehicles are pseudo-viable. They're saving money then the rest of us. The benefits out ways the costs overtime.
DRSmetal 2 years ago
Over 15 years, the Prius might break even regarding the cost over a standard car. Over time, ANYTHING might pan out. The operative term is 'might.'
Competition works hand-in-hand with SUPPLY and DEMAND. You guys keep leaving that out. If there's more oil, the PRICE GOES DOWN. If there's less, or it needs more shipping to get it to market, THE PRICE GOES UP.
cecilbdml 2 years ago
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Sarojaq 2 years ago
What do you think will be done with all the unsold inventory of cars in America?
valhala56 2 years ago 2
They will sell them off eventually; what the oil-based car dealers have found is that everything sells, eventually, at SOME price. But not profitably.
liveoilfree 2 years ago
They'll sell 'em for scrap--what small cars are. I notice there weren't any Vues or whatever Saturn's SUV was...only the small cars. And, interestingly, Toyota doesn't make a lot of money off of their corollas or small gas nippers...they make it off of Camrys and Pickups and SUVs. THAT'S where the market STILL IS.
Interesting, while you've been putting down SUVs as a bad bet, you're DRIVING one. Again...speaks volumes without a word.
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The existing electrical grid's off-peak capacity for power generation is sufficient to power 73% of commutes to and from work by cars, light trucks, SUVs, and vans without building a single new power plant if people drive plug-in hybrids, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. In addition, the existing nighttime electricity can be stored in plug-in vehicles and retrieved during peak-demand hours through vehicle-to-grid technology for use by the grid.
DRSmetal 2 years ago