I completely agree with you man statutory rape is a load of crap. Here in Australia age of consent is 16 which I think is ridiculous people should decide when they are ready for sex not have the state dictate them and put fear on them. 18 year old having sex with a 14 year if its completely consensual in my eyes is not a crime. Another thing statutory rape does is allow girls who are jealous or hate their ex to accuse them and have them charged for no reason its all bullshit.
I'm fourteen and my boyfriend just turned eighteen. we have been dating for 9 months and have not had sex yet. my parents threatened him for statutory rape, and it's ruined both of our lives. im a different person. i can't sleep,lost weight, and hold so much anger. we love each other and still do. what he did was not a crime. he is not a rapist. because of this my teenage years are ruined. i can't wait until i turn eighteen.
@segXoXoX thats horrible! Those people who convicted him are twisted and need to get a fucking life. The definition of rape is forced sex I don't see how consensual sex is a crime stupid dickheads run the legal system.
the thing I hate is even if the girl lies and ADMITS to liein, you can still be charged like wtf??? seriously??? the law is fucked is called statutory RAPE, rape means its NOT consensual, and if it is then who the fuck cares, damn quit puttin so many rules on life and just live, thats why the world is so fucked as it, you dont see animals having wars, gov, and all the other etc bullshit
Agreed. My boyfriend went to jail for 4 months because a girl stalked him and I threatened her. She said they had sex and made a whole story up! I question her about tattoos, scars, etc, she get every question wrong. So somehow, my boyfriend still went to jail for 4 months. Fuck the legal system it's all lies.
dude i think if a girl looks like a fully grown woman then it's not the dude's fault if she turns out to be underage. if you make an honest mistake you shouldn't be punished with it.
For all you sex-a-phobic people out there here's something for you. Within 10 miles of where u live, 15-20 teenage couples are having sex, RIGHT NOW. Teens have sex regardless of the law. Nature wins. period.
I get it if your talking of a 25 yr old having sex with a 15 yr old.
I'm talking teens between 13 and 18 yrs old. This is natural and perfectly ok. Don't mix your personal experiences with other people.
I had sex when I was 13 with a man who was 22. it was consenual but I didn't like it. And it ruined sex for me 4ever, i still don't like it. That's why i think your wrong
I agree with you..but I'm a 13 year old female so my comment is unwanted~~-- I also have another question. If it was violent rape, how would a female be able to rape a man? There would be no penetration involved and..how would the female be able to force the man to penetrate her? =0
@DiEx0MuSiC if it is a "Violent Rape" then it does not even fall under the category of statutory rape, it's just plain old rape, statutory rape refers to consentual relations between an adult & a minor. Consentual. Now a violent rape by a woman on a man,...A erection is just a reaction, they really cannot help it, so it is possible.
@KallioppexX t I understand that, but I think that statutory rape is fair..ish. At least I think so, it refers to both genders but I really think that if it IS consensual then there SHOULD be no problem. Technically we teenagers have rights too...xD Although I'd rather die a virgin, haha.
First off... while you sound educated you are wrong about a lot of things. First off kids do not have the time so to speak to think things out. You will know what I am talking about when you get a little older .Just wait. Next at least in this State there is no such thing as Statutory Rape. There is sexual misconduct with a minor. They also have the 5 year rule which is good. Fact is this you need these laws in place to protect kids ( under the age ) just like you NEED traffic laws.
@InternetSavage and your obviously too blind to realize that your children are going to do what they want & theres not really anything you can do about that, no amount of television & music censoring or curfews or laws are going to change that, open your eyes, Your children have hormones too! & the best that you can do it's educate them on the subject so that they can make wise decisions BY THEMSELVES because if you make for them, they will only rebel & make that bad decision just to spite you.
@InternetSavage I'm not saying that a 14 & 15 year old should go sleep with 20 - 30 year olds, but there is a grey area, there are couples that are seperated by maybe 2 - 3 years that get effected by this law I'm sure you and your significant other are not exactly the same age. all he is saying is that the law needs to be rethought. there is a difference between two people that are in love & one person violating another. Even the term "Statutory Rape" Makes absolutely no sense.
i agree with you for the most part. statutory rape sounds sound wrong compared to what it actually is. It's just sex and it's consensual and there are young people who can make mature decisions about sex. But like rape is always forcing someone to do it. That's fucked up. and that should be a felony. But I think the statutory rape laws should be rethought. And it doesn't make sense how each state has a different age of consent. The state's logic is all messed up in the US.
I think 15 year old girls should be able to live their lives without having to endure the sexual advances of 25 year old men. This is the reason for the law today and this was the reason for the law way back when. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's true. The old...what, pluralist? relativist? I don't know...philosophy of "if it's old, it's mold, if it's new it's true" is what, in essence, you are promoting.
@DuckwalkSupreme There is a lot of grey area in this law though, like say a 16 year old and his/her 18 year old significant other doyou think they should be affected by this law? I'm sure you & your significant other are a year or two apart in age, and why do you assume that its a boy pursuing a girl? this brings us back to "guys alwats want girls never want it, " and that is COMPLETELY UNTRUE. GIRLS WANT SEX JUST AS MUCH AS MEN DO.
@KallioppexX Most states don't bother with 2 year age differences, it's usually 3 years. And as for it usually being guys pursuing girls, how many 13-17 year old boys do you know? They are generally stupid and immature and massively insecure, and nobody but other 13-17 year olds want to be around them. How many 20 years or older women do you see wanting to hang out with and have sex with creatures even stupider than the men their own age? By the way, I'm a guy myself.
@DuckwalkSupreme I know a few 17 year olds but not really anyone younger, but theyre mostly just people I went to highschool with, I'm only 19. But I have dated a guy that was 17, and I don't feel that I was wrong in doing that. I just like the way everyone makes men or boys out to be these vicious monsters hunting down hunting down pure innocent virgins it's rediculous. and btw I am a girl.
@KallioppexX Once again, the difference between 19 and 17 is not that much. But the difference between 19 and 15 is a big difference. And most 19 year old girls I know or have known don't want much to do with 15 year old boys for the reasons I stated above, maturity being the foremost reason. But, things happen, like that teacher who slept with her 14 year old student a few years ago, that's wrong, too.
@DuckwalkSupreme I undersand what your saying, but angry parents etc. do you use "statutory rape" as a way to attack their childrens significant other even if it is only 2 or 3 years, I'm not at all saying that 15 year olds should be sleeping around with 19 year olds or anyone for that matter I just think they need to rethink the law because things that really aren't THAT bad
@DuckwalkSupreme like this video by theyoungturks describes exactly what I'm talking about "Should a 17 Year-Old Girl Who Had Sex with a 15 Year-Old Boy be a Registered Sex Offender?"
@KallioppexX No, and I think there aren't any states where a 2 year age difference means anything in the eyes of the law. It's when you get into 3 and 4 years that it becomes a big difference and can be construed as predatory behavior. And I think that at 5 years age difference it IS predatory behavior. I'm 21, and if were to go start hitting on 16 year old girls, that would be wrong. I love sweet jailbait ass as much as the next guy, but wrong is wrong : )
@DuckwalkSupreme ACTUALLY, My longest lasting relationship of three years was with someone who was 5 years older than me & we actually were not aware of the difference for the first three months, as I was not in highschool and working because of financial hardships, love is love was it wrong? probably in the eyes of a lot of people, predatory? no. We led a very normal relationship with very normal ups and downs, I look back on it and no I don't condone it, but again there is a grey area.
@KallioppexX Well, weighty issues no longer amuse me, so....What is your opinion on blueberry pancakes? Do you prefer the blueberries to be in the pancake batter, thereby being part of the pancake, or do you like to put blueberries on top of the pancakes after they have already been made? Or do you prefer no blueberries at all?
@KallioppexX Well, I am torn between the two. I like them in the batter, but it is possible to get far more berries into the equation when you pour them on the finished product. I will have to go with blueberries in the batter AND on the pancakes. Sorry, I didn't mean to make a trick question, I just realized that it sort of ended up this way.
@DuckwalkSupreme Hey there I started dating my boyfriend at 14 and he was 18. It really wasn't that big of a difference. Get us together, and we can have a great time together. I was pretty mature for my age, and I see no problem with my relationship. And since we are now engaged after a few years, I don't see it as that much of a problem. If him and I were to have a child I would be perfectly okay with her dating someone 4 years and 6 months older, because that is the age difference between us.
@laifsesnes Sweet shit! And it's 16 in Colorado, I'm gonna start hanging out there more often. I wonder if my neighbor's daughter wants to come with me...that may be a Mann Act violation but who cares?
@ssips720 It is not proper that law ever be used to "protect" people from themselves. That is an abuse of law. Not only do prohibitions on consenting behaviors never work, they usually result in the opposite of what one was trying to achieve though coercive social engineering.
I agree. The only thing I would nitpick is the societal notion of "female chastity"-it seems to be far FAR worse today than ever before historically. The laws infantalizing youth are extending "childhood" later and later into life- and this at a time when biological maturity is earlier than ever before historically. And yes, the laws are bigoted and violate equal treatment under the law. A person is ready for sex when they decide they are, and it's irrelevant with whom. Willing means willing.
Well, I for one think your argument was well said. I can't believe how some people have the nerve to say older teenage girls are too vulnerable and stupid to know when a man is taking advantage of her. And tell me why it's ok for a 16 year old boy to take a 16 yr old girl's virginity and not a 25 year old man to have sex with her? Because she's not allowed to have good sex with an experienced male? Sex is sex and if the age of consent is 16 it's 16.
They believe that others see them as manly, superior, more attractive, more desireable (etc.) while the youth is at their side. They are only feeding thier own perception of what others think of them.
The Ephebophiliac is not seeking a healthy or loving relationship with the teens. Rather, he or she is seeking to boost their own low sense of self worth by utilizing the teen. These people have acquired (usually in childhood) an inabilty to feel good about themself. They gain a sense of self worth by hiding behind the delusion of grandiose that the teen lover provides.
We often see that the teen victims gain a lifelong habit of selecting partners that will abuse and victimize them even further. This all goes back to the destruction of self esteem by the Ephebopheliac
Teens are NOT mentally mature adults, especially in the Thalamus region of the brain. This leaves them extremely vulnerable to manipulation and deception. This is why the predators target them, they are easy targets. The trauma suffered by the teens can be permanant and is highly destructive to self esteem. They often learn a severe mistrust of the opposite gender that can be lifelong. Further, the trauma can (and usually does) hamper their ability to form close and healthy bonds as adults.
That's why those under age should restrict themselves. Don't have sexual intercourse, instead have oral sex. If you get horny, then do 69! Then you haven't sexual intercourse! No pregnancy, virginity is kept. I encourage you to engage in oral sex ONLY. Resist the urge to have sexual intercourse! Have oral sex instead and do it together for crying out loud. Even it up! It's bad manners to only think about your own pleasure. It is more blessed to give than to receive. Remember the Bible!
Well I go to Highschool with alot of girls who are under the age of consent and I think its dumb that I cant have sexual relations with them. I agree that a 18 year old and a 14 or 13 year old is gross and hopefully the boy or girl will know not to do it by pressure from society, but I dont think its fair or just for me an 18 year old boy not to be able to have sexual realations with girls who are 17 or 16. I think that is perfectly fine especially if you are going to the same school.
Yeah i agree with you, i just searched for this video because i was looking for someone who shared my opinion on this issue. I think it's pretty disgusting that the dumbfuck legislators can't distinguish between CRIME and LOVE. or lust, whichever it may be.
I guess I agree. We should also look at our moral opponent's point of view too. How can a teenager consent to sex before they can vote or buy cigarretts. The questions are obviously rediculous but will be used by frigtened conservativs. theres also the parents to think about. If the parents of an "unwed virgin" don't like some guy screwing their daughter, they want to have the power to through his ass in jail. Its all a power play folks. Give it time. the Liberals are taking over . -AMM
i agree completely, i think penalties for actual forceful rape should be worse. there shouldnt be an "age of consent" we are humans and they are our bodies not the governments, to do so is making your body basically property of the government in a way.
I agree with you entirely.Not only do these laws need to be rethought, but they need to be questioned more by the american public. You're right about old ideologies, they shouldn't influence modern lawmaking. It's so cool that you're getting your opinion out, it's nice to know that people THINK!
i completely agree with you. i can't be with the only person i will ever love because of this. it fucking kills me every day to not be able to have him for this one and only reason. i mean, SERIOUSLY WHY does a dumb group of people in suits just get to sit there and make laws for me?! they don't even know or care about me whatsoever... i'm dying because of this, god help me:(
I don't agree with you. I don't think it's appropriate for guys to take advantage of teenagers, even with their consent. Teenagers are vulnerable. It's too easy for older, more experienced people to manipulate and hurt them. The point of this law is to protect the younger person from harm. Adults need to respect this law. If they love the teenager, they can wait for him/her to turn 18.
you mean younger girls taking advantage of older men. how girls out there keep on haveing sex with older after they have put a couple of guys away in jail
No that's definitely not what I meant. That's a really extreme example. What really happens is the younger girl gets hurt and manipulated AND gets blamed for it. I would never fuck around with a person under 18. I don't know why this is such a problem over here, it's common sense not to do that to kids.
There have been only a handful of cases that exemplify what you're talking about. What I'm talking about is the standard.
If guys don't want to go to jail for this, they shouldn't screw teenage girls. That's the bottom line. You can't point your finger at the child when the adult knows it's a crime and does it anyway. Once they've done it, it's fair game to prosecute. They knew the law and they broke it.
wow, you dont know much. there are more than just a handful dip shit. i notice how used the word guys as only stautory rape is meant for men right. the point is there is no innocents
Go look up the statistics yourself. First of all, 99% of rape perpetrators are men. Secondly, if a kid sleeps with a few adults and puts them in jail, too bad for them, they knew the fuckin law. Don't take this so fuckin personally dude. It's not on attack on you, this is my opinion about perverts and how they mess stuff up for all the good guys out there that don't go around violating teenagers.
you mean that the teenage grils need treatment for there sex trapping ways. these girls that get a high from trapping men into traps. oh and i guess if a teenage girl is old enough to kill a baby then i guess she is old enough to have sex shut the fuck up
Sure the majority of rapists are men. But there is absolutely a bias against men reporting rape. Male on male rape and female on male rape is something you just don't talk about, much more so than if a woman gets raped by a man.
@bamnmmnm actually women rape boys more now than they did back then they are actually i believe now the leader in rape perpetrators. yes its bad with an adult around 20 and up with a teen but like 19 dating a 17 year old or just turning 18 dating a 15 year old it shouldnt be a bad thing but just dating them can land you in jail. i think it needs more thought because were in highschool with them and or we are in the same age range. and up until 25 or for some even higher, we are not mature at all
oooh interesting. So you wouldn't fuck wit them cuz the law says it's illegal but if they said it was ok you would still do it right? I don't see the difference between 18 and 17 except one year. I really don't think alot is gonna change from 365 days. You either are a year wiser or you still the same.
Well, you can use that argument against any law, not just this one. I don't think government involvement is the problem. It's a cultural issue. It shouldn't be acceptable in our society for adults to have sexual relationships with children, but it happens and 9 times out of 10 people turn a blind eye to it and the kid gets hurt. That's where federal and state law step in to protect the child. For all intensive purposes, I think it's good that stat rape is a crime.
@bamnmmnm Why are you assuming it's a guy taking advantage of a girl? this brings us back to his point of "Guys always want it, girls never want it" which is NOT true. What about Highschool sweethearts that are only 2 - 3 years apart that get affected by this law?
@bamnmmnm first off, he never said it was ok to rape someone ... and if there is concent between the two partners there is no one taking advantage of anyone!
"If they love the teenager, they can wait for him/her to turn 18."
That's a misunderstanding. There are no cost-effective means of reasonable or expedient ID verification in most states so the perpetrators in most cases have no way of knowing that the person is below the age of consent. Usually, the perpetrator is set up.
You don't understand the law. If the person underage has a fake ID and the sex occurs, it's still charged as a strict liability crime.
my friend is being charged with statutory rape but the problem is rape is sex with one person who doesn't want sex and forced to have it and the girl is asking every guy around to have sex with her she's already sent 2 guys to jail so this law should exist if someone wants to have sex with someone go ahead but have fucking consent
Amen!! Age is just a # and I'm sorry but I can't help it if the one I fall for is considered taboo...MY BAD!! Just cuz I'm not considered an "adult," I know who I want. . .well done video. . .very thought out.
blah blah statutory rape is the biggest joke ever pasted. its nothing but a double standarded that is against men. all these young teen girls have got the media and people convince that it wasnt there fault that they are innocent victims that didn't want sex. when most of them are sluts and whores them selfs and probably pushed the guy and teased him about the affair then anything else. even women get caught and are acussed of statutory rape they usually get off
I lost my virginity when i was 14 to an 18 year old girl (I'm tall and look older than i am lol). In england, where i am, age of consent is 16. The thing I HATE about this statutory rape thing is that I KNOW that under age girls get into the clubs i go to and the gigs i go to. Now, what the fuck am i meant to do if i get with a girl? Stop kissing her and make sure she is actualy old enough? Honestly, Statutory rape DOES need rethinking. It is possible to do accidently.
Your a moron. Hes trying to educate people and your cracking some idiotic joke. If you listened and comprehended what was being said you would realize that your comment is both unecessary and unwanted.
Then again I have known many people who have dated someone much older than them. It was an obvious situation where no one was getting hurt, or abused.
It's when teachers seek out students, and treat students as if their purpose is to have sex with them, and they do so in a predatorily, manipulative fashion. It's not pleasant to have your teacher create a sexually aggressive environment, where they harass you and make you fearful.
There was a coach I had to deal with once in my teens who would try to ask me out. It seemed innocent at first, but when he began to harass me in front of other students, it got scary. He had sex with several under aged students.
This is a case where had he been charged with stat rape (amongst other things), and just had the book thrown at him, it woudn't be such a bad thing. It's a case where he knew how to manipulate students, and he did end up abusing them as well.
I was experienced abuse from a 30 year old at age 15. He would say things like (when he would harass me for sex, and I mean harass), "You're not 14, I am allowed to do this." He then would say he was going to rape me, or hurt me if I resisted him. I couldn't press charges (family thought it was my fault) and police often don't seriously prosecute sex offences, unless there is injury, or physical proof of force.
So to pigwall, you're the fucking dickhead. Get a brain and learn how to spell.
yeah because priests got needs to. And why waste that pent up frustration on a well used prostitute when you can play god and pork a 14 year old virgin.... (this is sarcasm in case anyone takes this literally)
I can see where it is useful, when there is an obvious big age gap, say like a 30 year old, and a 15 year old, where they are manipulating that person. Pedophiles are very manipulative.
I think some laws have a clause in where there has to be a 4-5 year difference of age at least. Otherwise I think statutory rape can be very badly misused.
also, i have not had a crush before either D: had my first recently, at 19. anyhow, if you get to that video, take into consideration the fact that you are a concrete sequential mindset like me, so congrats(^^) on thinking things through and being able to take a COMPLETELY neutral standpoint to examine the world you live in. anyhow, the point remains that this is FOOKED UP. so keep rocking the smart, and dont fook it up like me. teapott, out
to leeanne2001 you is a dickhead 15 and 30 is not rape and when it comes to sex teens are not stupid you cant be manipulated dumbass im 17 and if i have sex. get on top of a 23 year old willing thet's not rape i know what sex is the consequences of it and what where both doing
big words are big O_O. anyhow, i fully agree with this. I also have noticed that EVERY STATE has a different AOC. its a game of musical chairs. and I agree that there should be not an AGE... but an asessment of both parties psychological and physiological preparedness for both the ACT and the CONSEQUENCES of said act. however, this would not keep those who DO take advantage of the laws from doing so, but would greatly decrease the number of those who are capable. to the rest, I modern mannerisms
I agree with you. The statutory rape laws are extremely flawed. Some states have a age of consent law in place but the ones that don't if you're 18 and you're dating a 15 year old that you started dating when you were 17 and the parents decide to press charges the 18 year old is screwed. End of story. Me and my girlfriend were dating for a year and a half and her parents found out and decided to press charges. The dropped them eventually but I lost the most amazing thing in the process
First off the only thing wrong with statutory rape laws are that the the ones commiting them don't always go to prison for what they've done. Personally I think that older men should be a little smarter and NOT have sex with Underage girls! I bet most of the people that don't like the law are MEN! Or mommies with perverted sons! If an older man is going to decide to have sex with a minor then he should accept the consequences, or go find someone who's legal!
@lobsterworm so you say a man should be stoned to death or burned alive for haveing sex with a 15 year old female?your fuckin sick!!! anybody with that type of mentality of yours need to seek help!!! a guy haveing consensual sex with a 15 year old female is not the sick one. your the sick one for saying a man should be burned alive for haveing sex with a 15 year old. Its one thing to say its wrong but its another thing to say someone should be burnt alive. Seek some help you pathetic scum!!!
Statutory rape laws should stay the way they are. All teens under 18 should never be allowed to be in sexual relationships with adults 18 or above. I am getting sick and tired of seeing pregnant 15 year old girls in my hometown of Hamilton, Ohio!
18 is a teen just like 13 to 17 girls/boys and underage girls can get pregant with guys ther own age and i bet you wont say a real rapist or murder should be stoned
I'd stone a rapist in less than a heart beat. I think our laws are dismal at protecting rape victims. I had a friend who was attacked as a teen. Beat down and dragged into a washroom by two under aged youth. she was under aged too at the time. Those youth got 24 hours community service, and a clean record at 18, while she got a lifetime of pain. The DA claimed she was too flirtatious. Rape laws are applied just as maliciously as stat rape, and legal age laws.
the best point you made was there being a difference between love and rape. realistically, your average person doesnt want to see their 17 year old getting "raped" by a 35 year old creep, but if you are 20 and you fall in love with a 17 year old, should you just throw that person away because of age? i was one who didnt, and while we're not still together, it was the right thing at the time. thank you sir.
The laws on this subject are stupid and should be revised. The government compares this crime right along with pedophiles. Totally bogus. Most of the people charged with this are under 20 anyways. As if as soon as you turn the proper age you're going to know how to automatically make the right choices? pfft.
Dude, thank you for making this video. It points out every flaw in this medieval law that I've always thought about. It's great that you've said what a lot of people are thinking.
in Verginia and Georgia "i think" the age of concent id 15 or 16, in GA i think its 16.
so a 16 year old can't be with a 15 year old?
and out side the state, in where its age 18 to concent that would be legal?
thats just fucked up.I thought the People of america made up the government to make up the laws, not the government make laws for the people that everyone hates.
In almost EVERY other country that law doesnt exist!
Yeah, so what can anyone do to get rid of these laws?
it sucks, an 18 year old can go and fuck 80 year olds, but a 17 year old can't be with a 18 year old.
this is more horrible, they can't even date, i saw a case on the news, where the parents were ok with everything, and the under aged person said it was ok, but the cops arrested the older person anyways.
how do cops find out if no one says anything?
i heard they got one person under "probable cause" because they were holding hands.
Age of consent laws are a necessity for protecting children. The problem is that in the States an 18 year old can get 'child molester' stamped on his/her forehead for doin it with a 17 year old. Id invite our lawmakers to go to high school campuses, and look at the students. Most older male students like to go out with younger girls. Either they dont know about age of consent laws, or they dont care.
I agree with you... however, I don't think your legal terminology is quite correct. An adult having sex with a 17 year old wouldn't get charged with child molestation, he/she would get charged with statutory rape. They don't get charged with child molestation unless the minor is under 13, if I'm not mistaking. Child molestation charge = more years in prison. But yes, I agree there are huge flaws in these laws and it needs to be rethought and changed.
The government should stay out of the bedroom for consensual relationships. Homosexuals are allowed to have sex, which at a time was considered wrong, why can't a large age difference be left alone?
I rejected a girl's advances a year ago (When I was 24 and she was 16). I was hearing mixed opinions on what the laws were, and even 'official' sources online seemed vague.
Although there was a mutual interest between us, I decided the best thing was to not pursue anything as it felt morally wrong to be with a girl that young, even though as it turns out it would have been legal.
i think statutory rape laws need to stay forever and will stay anyway. but it depends on the age situation. like that one girl shes only 13 yrs old fucking a 22 yr old man who got her pregnant. thats unacceptible. and if he know its bad to have sex wit anunderage girl and do it anyway he deserve to be in jail for breakin the law
The fact of the matter is; Pedophilia and Rape are two totally different ball parks. Statutory Rape is bogus. When it comes down to it; the government really doesn't have a way to decipher maturity level as easily as age. I believe that there should be no age restrictions what so ever. If its rape, then it has nothing to do with the matter of age.
.... The fact that society is so overpowered by these laws shows that much to many people are naive to the reality of the fact that age is not in anyway a reflection on what or who a person should be restricted to do.
I commented about if you are old enough to have sex you should be old enough to have the baby. I dont mean it when it comes to rape I should clearify that. I meant when it comes to sex not when it comes to rape.
I agree with you 'thecaster'; I think that the law, although should not be removed entirely, should be modified drastically. There are definitely some scenarios in which sex with a minor, even a consenting minor, is a result of manipulation on the older individual's part.
...However. This doesn't mean that minors shouldn't be allowed to have sex with older individuals entirely. As said in previous comments, maturity comes to different people at different ages; putting a set number on the age in which people can legally have sex with adults is doing the right thing for people who mature incredibly slowly, but the wrong thing for people who mature quickly.
The laws overstep their boundries so often it's sickening. There shouldn't even be anything called "statutory rape". If two consenting people want to have sex, so what? People should definitely know the risks, but the idea that it's automatically wrong for a 15 year old to have sex with a 16 year old is so, so wrong.
Man, I agree with you. The government should not regulate relationships of any magnitude between anyone. To do so gives them the power to control your lives forever.
I support many youth rights initiatives including the matter at hand in your post. There is no scientific evidence that says sex between an adult and a youth is harmful.
What we have here is religious propaganda and mass social hysteria. Welcome to Nazi America.
"Man, I agree with you. The government should not regulate relationships of any magnitude between anyone. To do so gives them the power to control your lives forever."
It's not like without the law we'd have an epidemic of 30-40 year olds tricking 14 year olds into bed. Most 14 year olds simply don't want to have sex with people that much older. The idea that teens are just waiting to be violated is dumb.
However, I do think there's a use for the law. I do think prepubescent children should be protected under some kind of stat rape law.
You are absolutely right. Age is just a number. Age does not neccesarily equate to a certain level or maturity, nor does maturity equal an age. On a personal level, I have been through more hell in my life than some (actually, probably most) adults. I cannot even relate one bit to people my own age anymore. I have tried, and it is impossible for me.
It would be one thing if I was 12 wanting to have sex with a 25 year old. It is another that I am 15 and with an 18 year old. Not much of an age difference, and we are on the same maturity level, yet me having sex with him could get him put in jail on rape charges. I think Statutory Rape is bullshit because maturity comes to different people at different ages. But bottom line is that rape is rape, and voluntary sex is just that - voluntary. The government needs to get their facts straight.
This is one of the most pathetic laws conceived, not because of what it does, but because how it can be manipulated to put 17 year old boys in state prison for having sex with a 16 year old girl. I was in Idaho at Mountain Home AFB for training, and one of my friends little brothers who was 17 was sent to a state prison for having sex with a girl who was 16, even though the AOC in Idaho is 18, they still tried him as an adult. Fuck this fundamentalist-run government.
Using deceit to get into panties works on adult women as well as young women so where do we draw the line on age? I can trick a 13 year old girl into sex as easily as a 40 year old woman. The tactics are similar with a minor twist at the end. The fact is, alot of laws were created with ideas from christianity. And you should never plan your land's rules out by using religion (especially not christianity.)
I completely agree with you man statutory rape is a load of crap. Here in Australia age of consent is 16 which I think is ridiculous people should decide when they are ready for sex not have the state dictate them and put fear on them. 18 year old having sex with a 14 year if its completely consensual in my eyes is not a crime. Another thing statutory rape does is allow girls who are jealous or hate their ex to accuse them and have them charged for no reason its all bullshit.
fuckcroatsandalbania 2 months ago
I'm fourteen and my boyfriend just turned eighteen. we have been dating for 9 months and have not had sex yet. my parents threatened him for statutory rape, and it's ruined both of our lives. im a different person. i can't sleep,lost weight, and hold so much anger. we love each other and still do. what he did was not a crime. he is not a rapist. because of this my teenage years are ruined. i can't wait until i turn eighteen.
segXoXoX 6 months ago
@segXoXoX thats horrible! Those people who convicted him are twisted and need to get a fucking life. The definition of rape is forced sex I don't see how consensual sex is a crime stupid dickheads run the legal system.
fuckcroatsandalbania 2 months ago
15, 16, 17 year olds arent wise to make their own decisions... i didnt know when they turned 18 they magically become wiser...
cewl1234 7 months ago
the thing I hate is even if the girl lies and ADMITS to liein, you can still be charged like wtf??? seriously??? the law is fucked is called statutory RAPE, rape means its NOT consensual, and if it is then who the fuck cares, damn quit puttin so many rules on life and just live, thats why the world is so fucked as it, you dont see animals having wars, gov, and all the other etc bullshit
a48034 8 months ago
@a48034
Agreed. My boyfriend went to jail for 4 months because a girl stalked him and I threatened her. She said they had sex and made a whole story up! I question her about tattoos, scars, etc, she get every question wrong. So somehow, my boyfriend still went to jail for 4 months. Fuck the legal system it's all lies.
laifsesnes 7 months ago
the thing I hate is even if the girl lies and ADMITS to liein, you can still be charged like wtf??? seriously??? the law is fucked
a48034 8 months ago
I HAVE A BIT OF ADVICE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'S LIVES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BY STATUTORY RAPE LAWS,
RENOUNCE YOUR US CITIZENSHIP AND FLEE THE USA!
64TbirdLandau 9 months ago
I WISH I WAS IN EUROPE RIGHT NOW!
64TbirdLandau 9 months ago
dude i think if a girl looks like a fully grown woman then it's not the dude's fault if she turns out to be underage. if you make an honest mistake you shouldn't be punished with it.
jimmyshitbags 10 months ago
For all you sex-a-phobic people out there here's something for you. Within 10 miles of where u live, 15-20 teenage couples are having sex, RIGHT NOW. Teens have sex regardless of the law. Nature wins. period.
I get it if your talking of a 25 yr old having sex with a 15 yr old.
I'm talking teens between 13 and 18 yrs old. This is natural and perfectly ok. Don't mix your personal experiences with other people.
NemesisPrime1989 10 months ago
I had sex when I was 13 with a man who was 22. it was consenual but I didn't like it. And it ruined sex for me 4ever, i still don't like it. That's why i think your wrong
luvrip4life 1 year ago
I don't agree with you completely but I think you bring up some good points.
luvrip4life 1 year ago
You could be a radio personality. You have the voice.
Frantzu 1 year ago
I agree with you..but I'm a 13 year old female so my comment is unwanted~~-- I also have another question. If it was violent rape, how would a female be able to rape a man? There would be no penetration involved and..how would the female be able to force the man to penetrate her? =0
DiEx0MuSiC 1 year ago
@DiEx0MuSiC if it is a "Violent Rape" then it does not even fall under the category of statutory rape, it's just plain old rape, statutory rape refers to consentual relations between an adult & a minor. Consentual. Now a violent rape by a woman on a man,...A erection is just a reaction, they really cannot help it, so it is possible.
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX t I understand that, but I think that statutory rape is fair..ish. At least I think so, it refers to both genders but I really think that if it IS consensual then there SHOULD be no problem. Technically we teenagers have rights too...xD Although I'd rather die a virgin, haha.
DiEx0MuSiC 1 year ago
First off... while you sound educated you are wrong about a lot of things. First off kids do not have the time so to speak to think things out. You will know what I am talking about when you get a little older .Just wait. Next at least in this State there is no such thing as Statutory Rape. There is sexual misconduct with a minor. They also have the 5 year rule which is good. Fact is this you need these laws in place to protect kids ( under the age ) just like you NEED traffic laws.
bpd35 1 year ago
Sex education at the age of twelve, teach them of 'empowerment' = set innocent kids up to fail.
Liberals are the biggest pricks.
TAXtheAtheist 1 year ago
Oh god it's so obvious this little shit doesn't have a daughter and probably doesn't have a real father.
InternetSavage 1 year ago
@InternetSavage and your obviously too blind to realize that your children are going to do what they want & theres not really anything you can do about that, no amount of television & music censoring or curfews or laws are going to change that, open your eyes, Your children have hormones too! & the best that you can do it's educate them on the subject so that they can make wise decisions BY THEMSELVES because if you make for them, they will only rebel & make that bad decision just to spite you.
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX OMG, such a stupid child.
InternetSavage 1 year ago
@InternetSavage OMG such a naive adult
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX lol, I rest my case, go take another bong hit dumb ass.
InternetSavage 1 year ago
@InternetSavage I'm not saying that a 14 & 15 year old should go sleep with 20 - 30 year olds, but there is a grey area, there are couples that are seperated by maybe 2 - 3 years that get effected by this law I'm sure you and your significant other are not exactly the same age. all he is saying is that the law needs to be rethought. there is a difference between two people that are in love & one person violating another. Even the term "Statutory Rape" Makes absolutely no sense.
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@InternetSavage I'm sorry but he isn't more than 17 and you expect him to have a daughter? That is completely absurd xD
DiEx0MuSiC 1 year ago
if u are 17 years old u should be able to have sex wth ur 15 year old girlfriend without getting in trouble, thats all im saying haha
RanBobCinema 1 year ago
i agree with you for the most part. statutory rape sounds sound wrong compared to what it actually is. It's just sex and it's consensual and there are young people who can make mature decisions about sex. But like rape is always forcing someone to do it. That's fucked up. and that should be a felony. But I think the statutory rape laws should be rethought. And it doesn't make sense how each state has a different age of consent. The state's logic is all messed up in the US.
njguitarnewbjk 1 year ago
I think 15 year old girls should be able to live their lives without having to endure the sexual advances of 25 year old men. This is the reason for the law today and this was the reason for the law way back when. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's true. The old...what, pluralist? relativist? I don't know...philosophy of "if it's old, it's mold, if it's new it's true" is what, in essence, you are promoting.
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme There is a lot of grey area in this law though, like say a 16 year old and his/her 18 year old significant other doyou think they should be affected by this law? I'm sure you & your significant other are a year or two apart in age, and why do you assume that its a boy pursuing a girl? this brings us back to "guys alwats want girls never want it, " and that is COMPLETELY UNTRUE. GIRLS WANT SEX JUST AS MUCH AS MEN DO.
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX Most states don't bother with 2 year age differences, it's usually 3 years. And as for it usually being guys pursuing girls, how many 13-17 year old boys do you know? They are generally stupid and immature and massively insecure, and nobody but other 13-17 year olds want to be around them. How many 20 years or older women do you see wanting to hang out with and have sex with creatures even stupider than the men their own age? By the way, I'm a guy myself.
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme I know a few 17 year olds but not really anyone younger, but theyre mostly just people I went to highschool with, I'm only 19. But I have dated a guy that was 17, and I don't feel that I was wrong in doing that. I just like the way everyone makes men or boys out to be these vicious monsters hunting down hunting down pure innocent virgins it's rediculous. and btw I am a girl.
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX *don't like
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX Once again, the difference between 19 and 17 is not that much. But the difference between 19 and 15 is a big difference. And most 19 year old girls I know or have known don't want much to do with 15 year old boys for the reasons I stated above, maturity being the foremost reason. But, things happen, like that teacher who slept with her 14 year old student a few years ago, that's wrong, too.
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme I undersand what your saying, but angry parents etc. do you use "statutory rape" as a way to attack their childrens significant other even if it is only 2 or 3 years, I'm not at all saying that 15 year olds should be sleeping around with 19 year olds or anyone for that matter I just think they need to rethink the law because things that really aren't THAT bad
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme like this video by theyoungturks describes exactly what I'm talking about "Should a 17 Year-Old Girl Who Had Sex with a 15 Year-Old Boy be a Registered Sex Offender?"
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX No, and I think there aren't any states where a 2 year age difference means anything in the eyes of the law. It's when you get into 3 and 4 years that it becomes a big difference and can be construed as predatory behavior. And I think that at 5 years age difference it IS predatory behavior. I'm 21, and if were to go start hitting on 16 year old girls, that would be wrong. I love sweet jailbait ass as much as the next guy, but wrong is wrong : )
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme ACTUALLY, My longest lasting relationship of three years was with someone who was 5 years older than me & we actually were not aware of the difference for the first three months, as I was not in highschool and working because of financial hardships, love is love was it wrong? probably in the eyes of a lot of people, predatory? no. We led a very normal relationship with very normal ups and downs, I look back on it and no I don't condone it, but again there is a grey area.
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX Well, weighty issues no longer amuse me, so....What is your opinion on blueberry pancakes? Do you prefer the blueberries to be in the pancake batter, thereby being part of the pancake, or do you like to put blueberries on top of the pancakes after they have already been made? Or do you prefer no blueberries at all?
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme in the batter =)
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@KallioppexX Well, I am torn between the two. I like them in the batter, but it is possible to get far more berries into the equation when you pour them on the finished product. I will have to go with blueberries in the batter AND on the pancakes. Sorry, I didn't mean to make a trick question, I just realized that it sort of ended up this way.
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme Hey there I started dating my boyfriend at 14 and he was 18. It really wasn't that big of a difference. Get us together, and we can have a great time together. I was pretty mature for my age, and I see no problem with my relationship. And since we are now engaged after a few years, I don't see it as that much of a problem. If him and I were to have a child I would be perfectly okay with her dating someone 4 years and 6 months older, because that is the age difference between us.
laifsesnes 7 months ago
@laifsesnes So, I'm 21 and that means I can start hitting on 17 year olds? Sweet, local high school here I come!
DuckwalkSupreme 7 months ago
@DuckwalkSupreme Go ahead. Whatever makes you happy. Plus in my state, 17 is the age of consent.
laifsesnes 7 months ago
@laifsesnes Sweet shit! And it's 16 in Colorado, I'm gonna start hanging out there more often. I wonder if my neighbor's daughter wants to come with me...that may be a Mann Act violation but who cares?
DuckwalkSupreme 7 months ago
@KallioppexX yea i agree and girls just don't sho as much
WARRIOR1125 1 year ago
until its happened to you, you dont really know the significance of these laws.
a younger girl.. can fall in love with an older guy..
it doesnt mean shes emotionally ready to have sex with him if he so chooses..
there has to be laws to protect people from those situations.
the point is, they may be consenting to the idea of sex, but are still vulnerable to emotional manipulation and therefore, trauma.
ssips720 1 year ago
@ssips720 It is not proper that law ever be used to "protect" people from themselves. That is an abuse of law. Not only do prohibitions on consenting behaviors never work, they usually result in the opposite of what one was trying to achieve though coercive social engineering.
UndefendableDefender 1 year ago
I agree. The only thing I would nitpick is the societal notion of "female chastity"-it seems to be far FAR worse today than ever before historically. The laws infantalizing youth are extending "childhood" later and later into life- and this at a time when biological maturity is earlier than ever before historically. And yes, the laws are bigoted and violate equal treatment under the law. A person is ready for sex when they decide they are, and it's irrelevant with whom. Willing means willing.
UndefendableDefender 1 year ago
actually about the female on male statutory rape thats not true.
the female statutory rapists get treated just as badly as middle aged male pedophiles.
SecularLibertarian 1 year ago
Well, I for one think your argument was well said. I can't believe how some people have the nerve to say older teenage girls are too vulnerable and stupid to know when a man is taking advantage of her. And tell me why it's ok for a 16 year old boy to take a 16 yr old girl's virginity and not a 25 year old man to have sex with her? Because she's not allowed to have good sex with an experienced male? Sex is sex and if the age of consent is 16 it's 16.
PeachyMushroom 1 year ago
They believe that others see them as manly, superior, more attractive, more desireable (etc.) while the youth is at their side. They are only feeding thier own perception of what others think of them.
imnotgonnadie1549 1 year ago
The Ephebophiliac is not seeking a healthy or loving relationship with the teens. Rather, he or she is seeking to boost their own low sense of self worth by utilizing the teen. These people have acquired (usually in childhood) an inabilty to feel good about themself. They gain a sense of self worth by hiding behind the delusion of grandiose that the teen lover provides.
imnotgonnadie1549 1 year ago
We often see that the teen victims gain a lifelong habit of selecting partners that will abuse and victimize them even further. This all goes back to the destruction of self esteem by the Ephebopheliac
imnotgonnadie1549 1 year ago
Teens are NOT mentally mature adults, especially in the Thalamus region of the brain. This leaves them extremely vulnerable to manipulation and deception. This is why the predators target them, they are easy targets. The trauma suffered by the teens can be permanant and is highly destructive to self esteem. They often learn a severe mistrust of the opposite gender that can be lifelong. Further, the trauma can (and usually does) hamper their ability to form close and healthy bonds as adults.
imnotgonnadie1549 1 year ago
So you think its ok for 35 year old men to have sex with 10 year old kids?
imnotgonnadie1549 1 year ago
You are smart about this subject. The laws need to be rethought about.
SuperKings18 1 year ago
That's why those under age should restrict themselves. Don't have sexual intercourse, instead have oral sex. If you get horny, then do 69! Then you haven't sexual intercourse! No pregnancy, virginity is kept. I encourage you to engage in oral sex ONLY. Resist the urge to have sexual intercourse! Have oral sex instead and do it together for crying out loud. Even it up! It's bad manners to only think about your own pleasure. It is more blessed to give than to receive. Remember the Bible!
clarkewi 2 years ago
hijo de puta
rite1973 2 years ago
fuck you and your libertarian puka shelled necklace, mothafucka
FutureActress 2 years ago
Well I go to Highschool with alot of girls who are under the age of consent and I think its dumb that I cant have sexual relations with them. I agree that a 18 year old and a 14 or 13 year old is gross and hopefully the boy or girl will know not to do it by pressure from society, but I dont think its fair or just for me an 18 year old boy not to be able to have sexual realations with girls who are 17 or 16. I think that is perfectly fine especially if you are going to the same school.
cplusplusgamer 2 years ago
Yeah i agree with you, i just searched for this video because i was looking for someone who shared my opinion on this issue. I think it's pretty disgusting that the dumbfuck legislators can't distinguish between CRIME and LOVE. or lust, whichever it may be.
AsToldByCatherine 2 years ago
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LeeAntonio631 2 years ago 2
those laws are sexual fascism
SecularLibertarian 2 years ago
I guess I agree. We should also look at our moral opponent's point of view too. How can a teenager consent to sex before they can vote or buy cigarretts. The questions are obviously rediculous but will be used by frigtened conservativs. theres also the parents to think about. If the parents of an "unwed virgin" don't like some guy screwing their daughter, they want to have the power to through his ass in jail. Its all a power play folks. Give it time. the Liberals are taking over . -AMM
AnotherMasterMind 2 years ago
your pretty smart dude. I think this country is a bunch of anal hypocrites
bucball37 2 years ago
Everybody. Girls get a guy over the age of consent. Guys, get a girl under the age of consent.
We can stop pre-marital sex for good. :)
stickinup2188 2 years ago
i agree completely, i think penalties for actual forceful rape should be worse. there shouldnt be an "age of consent" we are humans and they are our bodies not the governments, to do so is making your body basically property of the government in a way.
21ricky666 2 years ago
I am 23 and I love 14 year old girls. I hate the laws. They restrict my love for the cute developing body of a up and cumming woman.
nwpoolnerd 2 years ago
I agree with you entirely.Not only do these laws need to be rethought, but they need to be questioned more by the american public. You're right about old ideologies, they shouldn't influence modern lawmaking. It's so cool that you're getting your opinion out, it's nice to know that people THINK!
soaringsunray 2 years ago
i completely agree with you. i can't be with the only person i will ever love because of this. it fucking kills me every day to not be able to have him for this one and only reason. i mean, SERIOUSLY WHY does a dumb group of people in suits just get to sit there and make laws for me?! they don't even know or care about me whatsoever... i'm dying because of this, god help me:(
EmillieEnvironment 2 years ago 2
I don't agree with you. I don't think it's appropriate for guys to take advantage of teenagers, even with their consent. Teenagers are vulnerable. It's too easy for older, more experienced people to manipulate and hurt them. The point of this law is to protect the younger person from harm. Adults need to respect this law. If they love the teenager, they can wait for him/her to turn 18.
bamnmmnm 2 years ago
you mean younger girls taking advantage of older men. how girls out there keep on haveing sex with older after they have put a couple of guys away in jail
carter20081985 2 years ago
No that's definitely not what I meant. That's a really extreme example. What really happens is the younger girl gets hurt and manipulated AND gets blamed for it. I would never fuck around with a person under 18. I don't know why this is such a problem over here, it's common sense not to do that to kids.
bamnmmnm 2 years ago
maybe you need to do more research and then you will find out about these girls have had a couple of guy put away
carter20081985 2 years ago
There have been only a handful of cases that exemplify what you're talking about. What I'm talking about is the standard.
If guys don't want to go to jail for this, they shouldn't screw teenage girls. That's the bottom line. You can't point your finger at the child when the adult knows it's a crime and does it anyway. Once they've done it, it's fair game to prosecute. They knew the law and they broke it.
bamnmmnm 2 years ago
wow, you dont know much. there are more than just a handful dip shit. i notice how used the word guys as only stautory rape is meant for men right. the point is there is no innocents
carter20081985 2 years ago
Go look up the statistics yourself. First of all, 99% of rape perpetrators are men. Secondly, if a kid sleeps with a few adults and puts them in jail, too bad for them, they knew the fuckin law. Don't take this so fuckin personally dude. It's not on attack on you, this is my opinion about perverts and how they mess stuff up for all the good guys out there that don't go around violating teenagers.
bamnmmnm 2 years ago
you mean that the teenage grils need treatment for there sex trapping ways. these girls that get a high from trapping men into traps. oh and i guess if a teenage girl is old enough to kill a baby then i guess she is old enough to have sex shut the fuck up
carter20081985 2 years ago
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nsewx 2 years ago
Sure the majority of rapists are men. But there is absolutely a bias against men reporting rape. Male on male rape and female on male rape is something you just don't talk about, much more so than if a woman gets raped by a man.
thecaster 2 years ago
@bamnmmnm actually women rape boys more now than they did back then they are actually i believe now the leader in rape perpetrators. yes its bad with an adult around 20 and up with a teen but like 19 dating a 17 year old or just turning 18 dating a 15 year old it shouldnt be a bad thing but just dating them can land you in jail. i think it needs more thought because were in highschool with them and or we are in the same age range. and up until 25 or for some even higher, we are not mature at all
massmayhem12 1 year ago
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nsewx 2 years ago
oooh interesting. So you wouldn't fuck wit them cuz the law says it's illegal but if they said it was ok you would still do it right? I don't see the difference between 18 and 17 except one year. I really don't think alot is gonna change from 365 days. You either are a year wiser or you still the same.
blizzard7006 2 years ago
If you do not think it is appropriate then that is good. It is the government having a say in it that is the problem.
thecaster 2 years ago
Well, you can use that argument against any law, not just this one. I don't think government involvement is the problem. It's a cultural issue. It shouldn't be acceptable in our society for adults to have sexual relationships with children, but it happens and 9 times out of 10 people turn a blind eye to it and the kid gets hurt. That's where federal and state law step in to protect the child. For all intensive purposes, I think it's good that stat rape is a crime.
bamnmmnm 2 years ago
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nsewx 2 years ago
If you do not think it is appropriate then that is good. It is the government stepping in and having a say that is the problem.
thecaster 2 years ago
ya know...still, you can manipulate 18 year olds too, ya know that right?
NemisisDelta 2 years ago
@bamnmmnm Why are you assuming it's a guy taking advantage of a girl? this brings us back to his point of "Guys always want it, girls never want it" which is NOT true. What about Highschool sweethearts that are only 2 - 3 years apart that get affected by this law?
KallioppexX 1 year ago
@bamnmmnm first off, he never said it was ok to rape someone ... and if there is concent between the two partners there is no one taking advantage of anyone!
GiftofGod18 11 months ago
@bamnmmnm,
"If they love the teenager, they can wait for him/her to turn 18."
That's a misunderstanding. There are no cost-effective means of reasonable or expedient ID verification in most states so the perpetrators in most cases have no way of knowing that the person is below the age of consent. Usually, the perpetrator is set up.
You don't understand the law. If the person underage has a fake ID and the sex occurs, it's still charged as a strict liability crime.
MegaAstrodude 3 months ago
lobsterworm said 'Adults who commit statutory rape should be stoned to death or burned at the stake alive!'
That's to dread, compare to normal rape should get a lighter sentence. If 'no' means 'no' then 'yes' should mean 'yes'
In some countries they're no such things as statuary rape. If the girl says 'yes', the parents should take the responsiblity for it.
If the girl hasn't reached puberty, (if she doesn't have breast or pubic hair) that's when the man should know better.
biggsleezy 2 years ago
*shouldn't exist (to my previous comment i wrote should instead of shouldn't)
narutosake222 2 years ago
my friend is being charged with statutory rape but the problem is rape is sex with one person who doesn't want sex and forced to have it and the girl is asking every guy around to have sex with her she's already sent 2 guys to jail so this law should exist if someone wants to have sex with someone go ahead but have fucking consent
narutosake222 2 years ago
I don't know how old you are but you seem smart.
salmoozation 2 years ago
in summation, you want some 14 year old pussy
robdorg 2 years ago
Amen!! Age is just a # and I'm sorry but I can't help it if the one I fall for is considered taboo...MY BAD!! Just cuz I'm not considered an "adult," I know who I want. . .well done video. . .very thought out.
greenteaprincess09 2 years ago
Exactly. The law is designed to take your average 21 year old and turn him into a criminal.
financevideos 3 years ago
smart kid
carter20081985 3 years ago
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blah blah statutory rape is the biggest joke ever pasted. its nothing but a double standarded that is against men. all these young teen girls have got the media and people convince that it wasnt there fault that they are innocent victims that didn't want sex. when most of them are sluts and whores them selfs and probably pushed the guy and teased him about the affair then anything else. even women get caught and are acussed of statutory rape they usually get off
carter20081985 3 years ago
I lost my virginity when i was 14 to an 18 year old girl (I'm tall and look older than i am lol). In england, where i am, age of consent is 16. The thing I HATE about this statutory rape thing is that I KNOW that under age girls get into the clubs i go to and the gigs i go to. Now, what the fuck am i meant to do if i get with a girl? Stop kissing her and make sure she is actualy old enough? Honestly, Statutory rape DOES need rethinking. It is possible to do accidently.
PsychoRage666 3 years ago
whore
timekillerrr 3 years ago
lmfao so, so true. But its still true :P
PsychoRage666 3 years ago
bro its chill im all for sluts
timekillerrr 3 years ago
Your a moron. Hes trying to educate people and your cracking some idiotic joke. If you listened and comprehended what was being said you would realize that your comment is both unecessary and unwanted.
EmoSlaughterhouse 2 years ago
chill dude its not a big deal
timekillerrr 2 years ago
It's youtube people
smallarmsdealerak47 2 years ago
Its pitiful to me how people thinks its okay when a women has sex with an underage boy.
leous666 3 years ago
It's been a while since I've seen it, so I only remember the larger details
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
I thought that movie wasn't about Stat rape, it was about violent rape, used as a hate crime towards a little girl.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
Then again I have known many people who have dated someone much older than them. It was an obvious situation where no one was getting hurt, or abused.
It's when teachers seek out students, and treat students as if their purpose is to have sex with them, and they do so in a predatorily, manipulative fashion. It's not pleasant to have your teacher create a sexually aggressive environment, where they harass you and make you fearful.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
There was a coach I had to deal with once in my teens who would try to ask me out. It seemed innocent at first, but when he began to harass me in front of other students, it got scary. He had sex with several under aged students.
This is a case where had he been charged with stat rape (amongst other things), and just had the book thrown at him, it woudn't be such a bad thing. It's a case where he knew how to manipulate students, and he did end up abusing them as well.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
I was experienced abuse from a 30 year old at age 15. He would say things like (when he would harass me for sex, and I mean harass), "You're not 14, I am allowed to do this." He then would say he was going to rape me, or hurt me if I resisted him. I couldn't press charges (family thought it was my fault) and police often don't seriously prosecute sex offences, unless there is injury, or physical proof of force.
So to pigwall, you're the fucking dickhead. Get a brain and learn how to spell.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
Lmao statutory rape is retarded...seriously
Think about all those priests in the church and how many they've violated? hundreds of church have been sued..
KerryDoan 3 years ago 2
yeah because priests got needs to. And why waste that pent up frustration on a well used prostitute when you can play god and pork a 14 year old virgin.... (this is sarcasm in case anyone takes this literally)
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
I can see where it is useful, when there is an obvious big age gap, say like a 30 year old, and a 15 year old, where they are manipulating that person. Pedophiles are very manipulative.
I think some laws have a clause in where there has to be a 4-5 year difference of age at least. Otherwise I think statutory rape can be very badly misused.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
yeah..its retarded theres a 60 year old man dating a 16 year old...
KerryDoan 3 years ago 2
also, i have not had a crush before either D: had my first recently, at 19. anyhow, if you get to that video, take into consideration the fact that you are a concrete sequential mindset like me, so congrats(^^) on thinking things through and being able to take a COMPLETELY neutral standpoint to examine the world you live in. anyhow, the point remains that this is FOOKED UP. so keep rocking the smart, and dont fook it up like me. teapott, out
invertedteapot 3 years ago
to leeanne2001 you is a dickhead 15 and 30 is not rape and when it comes to sex teens are not stupid you cant be manipulated dumbass im 17 and if i have sex. get on top of a 23 year old willing thet's not rape i know what sex is the consequences of it and what where both doing
pigwall 3 years ago
so mount you're 23 all you want. Clearly if you know what you're doing. You don't get where I am coming from.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
What about teachers and priests then? You is a dickhead....
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
big words are big O_O. anyhow, i fully agree with this. I also have noticed that EVERY STATE has a different AOC. its a game of musical chairs. and I agree that there should be not an AGE... but an asessment of both parties psychological and physiological preparedness for both the ACT and the CONSEQUENCES of said act. however, this would not keep those who DO take advantage of the laws from doing so, but would greatly decrease the number of those who are capable. to the rest, I modern mannerisms
invertedteapot 3 years ago 3
I agree with you. The statutory rape laws are extremely flawed. Some states have a age of consent law in place but the ones that don't if you're 18 and you're dating a 15 year old that you started dating when you were 17 and the parents decide to press charges the 18 year old is screwed. End of story. Me and my girlfriend were dating for a year and a half and her parents found out and decided to press charges. The dropped them eventually but I lost the most amazing thing in the process
Scooter2282 3 years ago 3
First off the only thing wrong with statutory rape laws are that the the ones commiting them don't always go to prison for what they've done. Personally I think that older men should be a little smarter and NOT have sex with Underage girls! I bet most of the people that don't like the law are MEN! Or mommies with perverted sons! If an older man is going to decide to have sex with a minor then he should accept the consequences, or go find someone who's legal!
loseembby 3 years ago
Adults who commit statutory rape should be stoned to death or burned at the stake alive!
lobsterworm 3 years ago
your and asshole loseeembby and im a 17 yearol antisexual girl
pigwall 3 years ago
@lobsterworm so you say a man should be stoned to death or burned alive for haveing sex with a 15 year old female?your fuckin sick!!! anybody with that type of mentality of yours need to seek help!!! a guy haveing consensual sex with a 15 year old female is not the sick one. your the sick one for saying a man should be burned alive for haveing sex with a 15 year old. Its one thing to say its wrong but its another thing to say someone should be burnt alive. Seek some help you pathetic scum!!!
kambridge967 9 months ago
Statutory rape laws should stay the way they are. All teens under 18 should never be allowed to be in sexual relationships with adults 18 or above. I am getting sick and tired of seeing pregnant 15 year old girls in my hometown of Hamilton, Ohio!
lobsterworm 3 years ago
well maybe if we educated kids more about how to use protection, this kind of shit wouldn't happen.
moonchild07 3 years ago 4
omg i didnt understand shit lol u use big words
spartanelite3752 3 years ago
18 is a teen just like 13 to 17 girls/boys and underage girls can get pregant with guys ther own age and i bet you wont say a real rapist or murder should be stoned
pigwall 3 years ago
I'd stone a rapist in less than a heart beat. I think our laws are dismal at protecting rape victims. I had a friend who was attacked as a teen. Beat down and dragged into a washroom by two under aged youth. she was under aged too at the time. Those youth got 24 hours community service, and a clean record at 18, while she got a lifetime of pain. The DA claimed she was too flirtatious. Rape laws are applied just as maliciously as stat rape, and legal age laws.
LeeAnne2001 3 years ago
the best point you made was there being a difference between love and rape. realistically, your average person doesnt want to see their 17 year old getting "raped" by a 35 year old creep, but if you are 20 and you fall in love with a 17 year old, should you just throw that person away because of age? i was one who didnt, and while we're not still together, it was the right thing at the time. thank you sir.
weakweek85 3 years ago
The laws on this subject are stupid and should be revised. The government compares this crime right along with pedophiles. Totally bogus. Most of the people charged with this are under 20 anyways. As if as soon as you turn the proper age you're going to know how to automatically make the right choices? pfft.
Fuck this law
jojo12monk 3 years ago
Dude, thank you for making this video. It points out every flaw in this medieval law that I've always thought about. It's great that you've said what a lot of people are thinking.
DarkSploosh 3 years ago
is it the same in other countries?
jt2456 3 years ago
wtf i am going through this right now >=[
edgar99ratm 3 years ago
I was going though the same stuff too when I was going out with my ex-gf...I'm glad nothing happened :)
rancidrnz 3 years ago
This video is great, I'm prolly going to make a review to this, I wan't my word out in the open.
If you could talk to me, that'd be great.
Thanks.
ASPunisher12 3 years ago
Isn't that stupid?
the Law tells you who you can and can't date,
in Verginia and Georgia "i think" the age of concent id 15 or 16, in GA i think its 16.
so a 16 year old can't be with a 15 year old?
and out side the state, in where its age 18 to concent that would be legal?
thats just fucked up.I thought the People of america made up the government to make up the laws, not the government make laws for the people that everyone hates.
In almost EVERY other country that law doesnt exist!
hutu4power 4 years ago
Yeah, so what can anyone do to get rid of these laws?
it sucks, an 18 year old can go and fuck 80 year olds, but a 17 year old can't be with a 18 year old.
this is more horrible, they can't even date, i saw a case on the news, where the parents were ok with everything, and the under aged person said it was ok, but the cops arrested the older person anyways.
how do cops find out if no one says anything?
i heard they got one person under "probable cause" because they were holding hands.
hutu4power 4 years ago 2
Age of consent laws are a necessity for protecting children. The problem is that in the States an 18 year old can get 'child molester' stamped on his/her forehead for doin it with a 17 year old. Id invite our lawmakers to go to high school campuses, and look at the students. Most older male students like to go out with younger girls. Either they dont know about age of consent laws, or they dont care.
markslord3 4 years ago
I agree with you... however, I don't think your legal terminology is quite correct. An adult having sex with a 17 year old wouldn't get charged with child molestation, he/she would get charged with statutory rape. They don't get charged with child molestation unless the minor is under 13, if I'm not mistaking. Child molestation charge = more years in prison. But yes, I agree there are huge flaws in these laws and it needs to be rethought and changed.
seabrain 3 years ago
The government should stay out of the bedroom for consensual relationships. Homosexuals are allowed to have sex, which at a time was considered wrong, why can't a large age difference be left alone?
youvebeenthunderstru 4 years ago
In Australia the age of consent is 16.
I rejected a girl's advances a year ago (When I was 24 and she was 16). I was hearing mixed opinions on what the laws were, and even 'official' sources online seemed vague.
Although there was a mutual interest between us, I decided the best thing was to not pursue anything as it felt morally wrong to be with a girl that young, even though as it turns out it would have been legal.
razeezar 4 years ago
i think statutory rape laws need to stay forever and will stay anyway. but it depends on the age situation. like that one girl shes only 13 yrs old fucking a 22 yr old man who got her pregnant. thats unacceptible. and if he know its bad to have sex wit anunderage girl and do it anyway he deserve to be in jail for breakin the law
hotbottoms07 4 years ago
I agree with you.
lobsterworm 3 years ago
Modern love is more like simply lust...
pingman2005 4 years ago
Modern love? You think just because we admire Shakespeares of history's love poems that in times before this they had only pure love?
thecaster 4 years ago
I agree, Look at the Gnarlow Wilson case.
He was 17, she was 15. And now he is a convicted felon, RIDICULUOS!
The law has gone to far. Whats next? Are they going to start burning people at the stake for pre-marital sex.
monte0007 4 years ago
The fact of the matter is; Pedophilia and Rape are two totally different ball parks. Statutory Rape is bogus. When it comes down to it; the government really doesn't have a way to decipher maturity level as easily as age. I believe that there should be no age restrictions what so ever. If its rape, then it has nothing to do with the matter of age.
Elena559 4 years ago 4
.... The fact that society is so overpowered by these laws shows that much to many people are naive to the reality of the fact that age is not in anyway a reflection on what or who a person should be restricted to do.
Elena559 4 years ago 6
I commented about if you are old enough to have sex you should be old enough to have the baby. I dont mean it when it comes to rape I should clearify that. I meant when it comes to sex not when it comes to rape.
DeanClark68 4 years ago
If you are responsible enough to have sex you should be responsible enough to have the child.
DeanClark68 4 years ago
I agree with you 'thecaster'; I think that the law, although should not be removed entirely, should be modified drastically. There are definitely some scenarios in which sex with a minor, even a consenting minor, is a result of manipulation on the older individual's part.
SoundingSilence 4 years ago
...However. This doesn't mean that minors shouldn't be allowed to have sex with older individuals entirely. As said in previous comments, maturity comes to different people at different ages; putting a set number on the age in which people can legally have sex with adults is doing the right thing for people who mature incredibly slowly, but the wrong thing for people who mature quickly.
SoundingSilence 4 years ago 3
@SoundingSilence I am glad that 1: You see that there needs to be an age of consent. And 2: That you understand how wrong OUR age of consent is.
I'm glad I'm not the only person with a brain :)
archy9752 1 year ago
The laws overstep their boundries so often it's sickening. There shouldn't even be anything called "statutory rape". If two consenting people want to have sex, so what? People should definitely know the risks, but the idea that it's automatically wrong for a 15 year old to have sex with a 16 year old is so, so wrong.
youvebeenthunderstru 4 years ago 4
Man, I agree with you. The government should not regulate relationships of any magnitude between anyone. To do so gives them the power to control your lives forever.
I support many youth rights initiatives including the matter at hand in your post. There is no scientific evidence that says sex between an adult and a youth is harmful.
What we have here is religious propaganda and mass social hysteria. Welcome to Nazi America.
lantash75 4 years ago 8
Welcome to Nazi America indeed. Well said, and I agree.
xXLostEmotionXx 4 years ago 5
"Man, I agree with you. The government should not regulate relationships of any magnitude between anyone. To do so gives them the power to control your lives forever."
So, so, so true and the point of this video.
thecaster 4 years ago
Five stars! I (almost) completely agree!
nadogi 4 years ago
It's not like without the law we'd have an epidemic of 30-40 year olds tricking 14 year olds into bed. Most 14 year olds simply don't want to have sex with people that much older. The idea that teens are just waiting to be violated is dumb.
However, I do think there's a use for the law. I do think prepubescent children should be protected under some kind of stat rape law.
devourerofbabies 4 years ago
absolutely correct.
cmjohnson513 4 years ago
You are absolutely right. Age is just a number. Age does not neccesarily equate to a certain level or maturity, nor does maturity equal an age. On a personal level, I have been through more hell in my life than some (actually, probably most) adults. I cannot even relate one bit to people my own age anymore. I have tried, and it is impossible for me.
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KyanNyanChan 4 years ago
It would be one thing if I was 12 wanting to have sex with a 25 year old. It is another that I am 15 and with an 18 year old. Not much of an age difference, and we are on the same maturity level, yet me having sex with him could get him put in jail on rape charges. I think Statutory Rape is bullshit because maturity comes to different people at different ages. But bottom line is that rape is rape, and voluntary sex is just that - voluntary. The government needs to get their facts straight.
KyanNyanChan 4 years ago
I agree!
=)
anabob92 4 years ago
you talk weird
need2seeFUNNY 4 years ago
This is one of the most pathetic laws conceived, not because of what it does, but because how it can be manipulated to put 17 year old boys in state prison for having sex with a 16 year old girl. I was in Idaho at Mountain Home AFB for training, and one of my friends little brothers who was 17 was sent to a state prison for having sex with a girl who was 16, even though the AOC in Idaho is 18, they still tried him as an adult. Fuck this fundamentalist-run government.
0Lateralus0 4 years ago 4
To me i hate this law. Statutory rape..like come on now there is people out there actually getting raped, by not wanting it..but yea. Good video.
GothAngel09 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
When you grow up perhaps you will understand the world a little better sonny boy.
bigtreeguy1 4 years ago
Using deceit to get into panties works on adult women as well as young women so where do we draw the line on age? I can trick a 13 year old girl into sex as easily as a 40 year old woman. The tactics are similar with a minor twist at the end. The fact is, alot of laws were created with ideas from christianity. And you should never plan your land's rules out by using religion (especially not christianity.)
TheRealDrache 4 yea