Chasing The Dragon (eeeteee No Grunt Symphonic Edit) - Epica

[Tresidentevil]

I'm a huge fan of this genre. Unfortunetly I don't touch Epica, the death grunts totally ruin the music. If they stopped it they could be a massive band with a much broader fan base. The grunts alienate most fans. Its a shame because Epica's songs are fantastic apart from the grunts.

[wliu003]

the grunt adds so much to this song, shame to take it out.

[Igloofucker]

3:18 has a jump that skips one of my favorite parts! What the hell?!

[OneAgeingRocker]

Great job (With the music!) - Sorry, but I'm not a fan of the video! You've replaced jarring 'grunts' with jarring imagery that's far too repetitive...:(

[Gothb4goth]

Absolutely agree with RicoLen1 -- cannot stand the death grunts. Just sounds like a dying animal or something, which I do not prefer in my music. I was ready to buy an Epica album (several, maybe all), until Cry for the Moon was ruined by those hideous grunts. Trying way too hard to be shocking, offensive, tough, whatever the heck they're trying to convey. There are plenty of death metal bands, just wish they didn't ruin this band with grunts.

[RSevlp45]

perfect video for evanescence die hard fans...metal surely doesn't need them, grow up kids and stick to your "awesome" and "growlless" evanescence and within temptation

[kiotocitystories]

@RSevlp45 CAn you calm down with WT, WT it's not in the same line of Ev. It's metal from Europe just like Epica. WT is more mature than Ev, and I can fucking tell you you haven't listened songs like Enter, Gatekeeper, Grace or The Dance :@ In fact, those are heavier than Epica

[TearisShatteredMoon]

@kiotocitystories Why does anyone even bring up evanescence in metal videos they are Gothic alternative rock, with a soul voice low key singer.

Whether someone likes or hates them they don't belong here being compared.

[kiotocitystories]

@TearisShatteredMoon Ahem. Put attention of what my comment says. I'm trying to defend those bands because I LIKE THEM. As you I'm sick of people confusing Evanescence, WT & Epica just because of the singers. They're not even the same kind of music.

[TearisShatteredMoon]

@kiotocitystories I was agreeing with you yeesh

[kiotocitystories]

@TearisShatteredMoon And so I am dude :D

[TearisShatteredMoon]

@kiotocitystories I see that now, sorry eyes blurry just got off a 3 day writing bender..... And it's a girl thanks

[kiotocitystories]

@TearisShatteredMoon Oh you're a girl, sorry dear :) I'm a girl too

[TearisShatteredMoon]

@kiotocitystories No worry, biker chick, headbanger, Gothic, rock climber ex wrestler and carpenter.... now working as a Gothic writer..... most people assume male

[TearisShatteredMoon]

@RSevlp45 By the way dip, First of all no need to insult bands you don't like cause they are a different style (but Within does hardcore as well and growls in their early cd's and is talking about going back to that)

[RicoLen1]

Dude, I want a CD of these songs you've got here. This is great. I don't listen to Epica solely because of the death growl. It drives me nuts. The Last Crusade is one of the best songs I've heard, but for ages its been one of the only songs of theirs I've been willing to listen to. That's why I've always stuck with Nightwish. Thanks so much for doing this. Simone Simons is amazing all on her own.

[SeikoSieraseiga]

@RicoLen1 Mother of Light is another good one that they have an offical version without grunts^^

[Ayaalucarddevaint]

I liked the grunts, it layerd the song well but i like this when my nona and nono are around.

[lovelyamylee]

thanx for that. Her voice is angelic. Better without screaming.

[Zotarium]

Hurray! I love this song... and I'M so glad it's been improved.

[kiotocitystories]

What is this song without grunts??

The grunts symbolize how a person can turn mad just because of drugs

If you don't like the grunts, you should listen to the single version

[hentaiboy1928]

you right, and not only in this song...Grunts are fine just dont overuse them

[NoGruntEpica]

Right ... I have the single version and it is cut worst and missing the entire 2nd half of the song. This variation is more complete even without Mark.

[kiotocitystories]

@NoGruntEpica No, it's NOT. Without Mark the message of the song is not complete

I appreciate Simone's voice, all of those who have listened Epica have done it. But what's Epica without Mark?

In fact, almost of us who like Epica appreciate more the work of Simone rather than the work of the other members

[adr14ntr]

@kiotocitystories I agree

[RSevlp45]

it's ok to listen to these versions, they sound good, but there's no way these versions are better then the originals

[LemmensSteven]

It's too bad that you've simply removed the parts with the grunts. Perhaps a karaoke effect could have served you better.

It's still a good song though.

[BW52516]

Really love the no grunt version!

Thank you very much for editing and uploading!

[mizzfreemaagyeman]

epica+nightwish+within temptation+ evuliet=best gothic bands ever!

[Razzius]

The Grunts ROCKSSSSssSSs!!! hahahahaha

[PearlDanderfluff]

I like the grunt more :)

[lateralex90]

well,obviously this one is a really good song,thou the grunts are already part of the song,for those of us who have had always heard the grunt version...anyway,good work...

[cyberneticdex69]

in my live i` ve never heard anything like this... it make ma stone heart bleed again... wonderfull :| just to much for my....

[tombfreak]

I like it more with the grunt

[eoreth]

me too...

[nightwishxxld]

me too...

[Arkash9]

me too...

[Yrvyne]

This band, I've never heard before, yet this track defines the Epica as a most awesome one!

[TRarol13]

beautiful song....from a great band...

[eros16eden]

Epica the best !!!

[yamiimax]

also it would be cooler to place a clear male voice on the part for grunt^^ not delete because it destroy the song if something missing :(

[lococow33]

IT's not dark metal champ, it's death metal. Dark metal doesn't exist.

[00Rotem00]

But one of the most important characteristics of symphonic metal is the Beauty & The Beast effect- an ethereal woman's voice along with death grunts. & Epica does it in such a beautiful manner... I wouldn't be able to listen to an entire death grunt CD, but Epica makes it beautiful when they use it. Long live Mark Jansen :P

[mrbeaninlondon]

Interesting concept. I've never cared for the death voice... grunts... what have you. But many of their songs call for a counter point to her voice and just removing those parts doesn't exactly work.

While I would like to hear a male vocal part to counter hers that isn't grunt style... I enough their music enough not to let those parts ruin it for me.

[NoGruntEpica]

The whole reason for making these versions is the fact that I love Simone's beautiful voice and Mark's compositions, but can live without Mark's distracting vocal contrast ... that plus the fact that they released an official cut single version w/o grunts that is missing the entire 2nd half of the song.

[TwilightAronXD]

The reason the single version cut the grunts, was because mainstream radio fucktards are afraid of anything besides r&b, hip hop and other clishes.

[SodaCurtisWhore]

i like it....

grunts suck

why does no one appreciate SIMONE'S voice....?

[musicmama888]

People definitely appreciate Simone's voice. I have no real problem with the grunts, but if you're going to edit them out, leave Simone's voice in too.

[musicmama888]

What the heck!!!!! You edited out my favorite part. Just edit out the grunts, not 30 seconds of perfection!

[Diaboli87]

no grunt epica.. how lame.. and if you edit out the grunts, you should do it good, cause the part between "makes us obscene" and "dolendo discit mori mortalis" is crap..

[Elmothefuzzle]

why the fuck would you edit out the growls?