Sometimes I catch myself singing this, albeit softly. It's catchy. And yeah, I agree with the sentiment - I think humans are still a work in progress. You'd think if we were intelligently designed, there wouldn't be problems like joint pain or double sets of teeth, or even astigmatism.
May as well make a cute song about it. Sure can't make a good scientific case against irreducible complexity, as seen in biochemical mechanisms such as bacterial flagellum.
But scientists have shown themselves to be as susceptible to herd-like thinking and behavior, just like anyone else. Anthropogenic Global Warming was the wake-up call, but the exact same thing goes on with ID, which undermines the notion that scientists are mere objective observers of the physical world.
A very witty song, and I certainly agree with the sentiments.
However, your ensemble singing is AWFUL. (And I say this as someone with a poor singing voice myself.) No offence, but I wouldn't advise trading in your lab coats for a career in music. :-)
It's a shame in many ways that evolutionists have resorted to the same mindless and intellectually inert evangelism of the most hard line fundamentalist theists.
Of course none of you see this. Too illiterate. Instead you prefer to blindly follow a theory that you actually have extremely limited knowledge of and to behave in ways as childish as this. Though such is the state of the Dawkins reading English Middle-Class.
I don't think this song was ever intended as evangelism. It's actually fairly self-deprecating, but I suppose you're determined to see evolutionists as fascists no matter what's put before you.
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People like you say that christian's are ignorant for not looking at the facts. Maybe if you would look at the more possible facts then you would realize you were the ignorant ones.
you know you'd think that looking at the complexity of the universe and the human body like most scientists do, would actually increase their faith. i'll be sure to pray for you guys!
There is lots of proof of evolution. Viruses and bacteria evolve to resist medications. Bugs evolve to resist poisons. We evolved over a long long period of time. The reason bugs and bacteria evolve faster is because they BREED faster. Also, you see animals evolve as we selectivly breed them for certian traits. That is why there are so many dog breeds and why people make up new ones. Now shush.
What? How does the existence of a tailbone disprove evolution? It is clearly explained by the fact that our distant ancestors had tails, and that this feature became superfluous as the great apes began to evolve, so it reduced in size but never fully disappeared. Maybe you should read a book on evolution before claiming that something you don't understand disproves it.
As for the tail bone being a vestigial organ. Someone kicked me there and I couldn't walk for days. It was so annoying. But at least it DISPROVES EVOLUTION.
The Bible is like a lion; it does not need to be defended; just let it loose and it will defend itself.
great song, and science always prevails over religious fundamentalism, this has happened countless times in the past. Wee, go science, ID is not science!
I hang my head in shame that I am part of the same species as ID-iots. ID-iots lonly serve to undermine the idea that DNA based life can be intelligent.
pluto still exists and still orbits the sun. some people just decided to make the definition of "planet" more strict as pluto was always an oddball and this was always known. it's only categorizing, it doesn't change anything.
Christian song? The tune is "John Brown's body," so unless your god is John Brown it's not a religious song at all. Come to think of it, John Brown probably has a better claim to the name than most of the notions people call God.
'Course, Julia Ward Howe did borrow the tune for The Battle Hymn of the Republic, but if she can crib it why can't these guys?
Incidentally, Howe was a Unitarian, quite possibly not a Christian depending on your definition.
i do agree with you, like i said just messing with you. bacterial flagella, lol at least you knew what i was talking about. iv'e tried to fuck with people on here that had no clue.
and what about what physicist-philosopher robin collins said gravity is fine tuned to one part in a hundred million million billion billion billion billion billion. he demonstrated that chance cannot reasonably account for "anthropic principle"
you cant get those things from materials that dont have them.darwinist philosopher michael ruse candidly said" no one, certainly not darwinian as such, seems to have an answer". nobel prize winning neurophysiologist john eccles concluded"that there is what we might call a supernatural origin of my unique self conscious mind or my unique selfhood or soul"
and one more thing that throws a monkey wrench in evolution,consciouness. how do you get something from nothing? if the universe began with dead matter then how do you get something totally different. living ,thinking,feeling,believing creatures.
not to mention the astrology of it all, i guess we got really lucky to be able to get a sun that was the right mass,the right light,the right age, the right distance,the right orbit,the right galaxy,the right location- to nuture living organisms. man how lucky can we be!
how superbly callow, just like all the martians that dont exist sit there in their non-existance, knowing with absolute certainty that God DOES NOT exist because the conditions on essentially all planets are not congenial to life. Wow, virtually all planets dont support life, how lucky is that!
if it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous,succesive,slight modifications,my theory would absolutely break down.well i guess when darwin said that he didnt know about cilia and bacterial flagella. hmm guess i know a little something.
Yes that's it. You struck a nerve. It's not that you're misrepresenting the opposing argument to make your own look stronger (that or you're just ignorant as shit), that you cite generic search sites which link to content riddled with fallacies as valid sources, or that you try to pass off your retarded creationist bullshit as actual science. There's no evidence, it's not testable, and its foundation is the watchmaker analogy, a circular fallacy and an argument from ignorance.
Are you fucking stupid? All you have to do is read ALL of the comments. Instead, you sat there and read one that struck some imbreed nerve you have and commented on that one. You are an idiot. If you can't tell that I was fucking with the guy then you have some serious problems.
You read them all and still made the stupid comments? Lol well now who's ignorant? Oh and by the way I'm old enough to be giving your mommy a good ol'hate fuck right about now for not aborting your stupidass.
You sound like a great christian. jesus would be proud. (notice jesus isn't worth being capitalized). But what's to be expected of someone as stupid as a creationist.
CREATIONIST! YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT! As if you didn't look at my profile stupid. Do you really think that if I were a creationist that I would have vid mocking jesus? GODDAMN YOU'RE STUPID.
Alright I'm done with you now. You make no sense and are here to just argue. For some reason you have this fetish for 15 year olds and I'm not it to that. So peace and JESUS FUCKING LOVES YOU.
99.9% IS a real number. Let me make the point that you're a creationist right? you may believe only in microevolution, but you're still a creationist. Well, anyone that doesn't accept macroevolution is a creationist or at least they'd consider it a valid theory. ... The site says "...believe in "creation-science" or consider it a valid theory..."
meaning that even if they DO accept evolution but only consider it a valid theory, they'd be included in that .01%
I accept evolution, but only MICRO-evolution. And A) Please present real numbers, because 99.9% is obviously you just saying that and B) How many of the scientists who believe in evolution only believe micro-evolution?
Proteios, why do you think that just because they are scientists that they are automatically right. Scientists were wrong about DDT. I am not saying that GUARANTEES they are wrong about that, I am just saying it isn't impossible.
*I misstyped when I said "I am not saying that GUARANTEES they are wrong about that," I meant to say, "I am not saying that GUARANTEES they are wrong about this," Sorry.
"Actually, DDT is a very safe chemical that was the victim of an irrational media hysteria." That's still under dispute, but DDT is worth taking another serious look at, especially considering malaria deaths in the 3rd world. But just to clarify: the jury's still out on DDT.
...and of course like most other evolutionists, they fail to remember or maybe even know that God's design was perfect at the beginning and WE messed it up - not God. They can't even get the theology correct to make fun of it.
Yes, but they are not the only scientists with opinions. There are some VERY strong arguements made by Christian-scientists AGAINST evolution, and I would like to see what evidence they have, or have they just used their degree as an excuse to be taken seriously?
You seem to mistake 'christian' for 'creationist'. Please learn the difference. The absolute and overwhelming majority of biologists, regardless of religion, accepts evolution. From another viewpoint though, yes, if you reject evolutionary theory, it's because of religious reasons. Not sane ones.
I reject evolution for BOTH religious reseasons AND sane ones. You really think we started from ROCKS???? Millions of years of rain on rocks created a "soup" that could CREATE LIFE?!?!?!?!? I have VERY sane reasons for rejecting evolution.
LOL, those are you sane reasons? Where have you been getting your science? In sunday school? Why don't you crack open a science book for once, preferably those not sold in church.
Umm.. I DO read science books, because at school evolution is SHOVED down our throats. And no, those aren't my only reasons, but seriously, one day this soup made by early Earth and rain decides, "You know, today I feel like making life. Then the one-celled organism will one day become giraffes, elephants, dogs, cats, birds, fish, and HUMANS!"
wow. what an idiot. IDs=religious fanatics with no brain stem. Want proof of evolution do you? Why the FUCK DO YOU HAVE A TAILBONE. wow. i can't wait till religion dies out. After your generation dies...we're looking good.
have them explain why we need a reproductive system if we came into being on our own. or how a male and female came into being and how that happened. evolution is full of shit. all you have to do to block anything these jackoffs say is to go and look at scienceagainstevolution.com they cant answer one of the questions that are on there.
There are so many fallacies and straw men and instances of irrational, illogical bullshit on that site and in what you say that I am physically pained just knowing people as ignorant as you exist.
"5. Does God exist? He has...shown Himself in the Bible."
THAT'S NOT CIRCULAR AT ALL.
That's just one of those generic search sites that capitalizes on domain name popularity, anyway. Real credible!
You're so far in denial it's amazing you aren't drowning in Egypt. You've bought into all these straw man arguments and have no idea how evolution actually works. I'm not going to bother explaining it, because you'll just come back with the typical creationist bullshit strawmen. Go do your own fucking research and stop being so ignorant.
obviously u are quoting from the controversial Kent Hovind who is an absolute nutcase. he honestly believes that 911 was set up by the American government, that humans never landed on the moon and all that bogas. my advice is not to listen to him. he uses sarcasm to persuade people that evolution is rubbish and a magical man in the sky who created everything is fact. very sad .
That's not making it justice. we need numbers. Worldwide, over 99.9% of scientists in the earth and life science fields accept evolution. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA111.html
*Sigh* No betpiece, Ignorance is not a form of knowing things, or a tool of rational debate. Until u have a phd in science, like the people singing here or myself, maybe you should confine yourself to loftier matters, like 'what is gods favortie color?'. Remember BETpiece, the right of freedom of speach doesnt extend to the right to be taken seriously. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijI5PEiy0c
and Im telling you atparks that most of us grew out of the need for imaginary friends before we were 10. Its time you grew up and got by without your imaginary friends, and few of us were so arrogant to promote our invisible friends to the status of creator of everything.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. (Romans 1)
OMG! Watch out, the Salem witch trials comming to a town near atparks. How are you going to test if they are a witch? So if you found a witch you would not suffer he to live as it says in the bible? But heres a definition for you atparks. Use of electricity makes you a witch! It makes light in the night, an unnatural act!
you are saying that the word of god and the 10 commandments (actually the 231 or so commandments) are no longer valid? Its all the civil law in exodus!
So really atpark, u beleive in witches, what do they do and what do they look like? what does the bible tell you?
No. There are three types of law in the Pentateuch: 1) Civil law, 2) religious law, and 3) moral law. Most of the civil laws are no longer valid. These laws were set so God's people knew how to live. Most of the religious laws are no longer valid. These set up so God's people knew how to worship. All of the moral laws are still valid. These were set up so God's people knew how to act and these were also written down as examples to us on how to act.
LOL, where are these different types of law defined in the bible (which u say tells you everthing)?? Even looking at the '10 commandments' most of them are civil or religious and according to you no longer valid. Where in the bible does it say they are no longer valid?
exodus 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.- God lays down some commandments. But most of them are of the religious laws you seem to think are no longer valid (see above). Like gods first WORDS. 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,
Both - these are religious (not obsolete) because it's how God tells us we should live. It's all through the NT. And most of the ten commandments are not only religious laws. They are laws for us to live by. Don't define the commandments using your definition. Study scripture and decide.
exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
Thats right u pray to a jelous god (by his own word). Further you say this is how god made man in him own image. So god made men to break his commandments? Ya sure, that makes sense for a perfect god.
It is important here to understand how the word jealous is used. How it used in Exodus 20:5 to describe God is different than how it is used to describe the sin of jealousy (Galatians 5:20). When we use the word jealous, we use it in the sense of being envious of someone who has something we don't have. A person might be jealous or envious of a another person because he or she has a nice car or home (possessions).
When we look at this verse, we find that it is not that God is jealous or envious because someone has something He wants that He does not possess. Exodus 20:4-5 says, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God..."
Notice that in this verse God is talking about being jealous if someone gives something that belongs to Him to another. In these verses, God is speaking of people making idols and bowing down and worshiping those idols instead of giving God the worship that belongs to Him alone. God is possessive of the worship and service that belong to Him.So, in summary, it is a sin when we desire, or we are envious, or we are jealous of someone because he has something that we do not have.
It is a different use of the word jealous when God says He is jealous. What He is jealous for belongs to Him; worship and service belong to Him alone, and are to be given to Him alone. Remember that the same words could have different meanings - it's also evident in English. Also remember that the OT is being translated from Hebrew to English. So it does not always translate without further study.
face it, if you hold the bible as your moral code, then you have no place if first world civilization. Go back and live in the desert with your ox and ass, stone people who work on the sabbath, kill your children if they are disobedient, sacrifice them 'if god asks you' and take your pre-renaissance mind with you.
Even with a trivial knowledge of scripture, you should know these laws are no longer valid. I think I already told you that...but hey...you believe what lies you wish to believe. God will deal with you..."Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall proclaim His name."
...for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM." Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us- (galatians 3)
Umm.... who says God doesn't eat. DOn't you find some foods delicious. I am going to be honest, there are some food I would still eat even if I didn't need food to survive. Who says God can't eat Heavenly feasts?
Nowhere in the Bible does it ever say or imply that God made man in His physical image. God man in His image with regards to His personality. The context of scripture and God's plan when studied makes it perfectly clear that our physical appearance has nothing to do with our relationship with Christ.
Well I think thats even worst! Instead of God eating, shitting having bone problems etc he is actually war like, a murderer, a punisher, demanding, repulsive. Oh yeah reading the bible I can certinally see that actually! Silly me.
Read what I said. I said nowhere does it imply that God created man in His PHYSICAL image. Read my post again. God created man in His image implies His personality and actions.
God is not a he (of the male gender)! then why does the bible refer to him as 'he'? Surely you are not one of those people who think the bible is not LITERALLY TRUE. Or are you about to tell me that 'he' refers to his male thoughts. A point that is utterly commical as the thing that determins the different thought process of men and women is errr, physiolgy.
"He" is grammatically correct and used to be the acceptable use. When using the singular, third person personal pronoun, it has always been acceptable to use masculine case "he" as a pronoun for an unknown person. Only until recently have more people begun using the phrase "'he' or 'she'". For example, "Somebody left trash on the patio and he or she is in trouble." See? It used to be perfectly acceptable just to use the male pronoun "he" - thus God was/is referred to as "He".
God is an unknown person because nowhere does scripture describe His physical being or His gender. Both are unknown. God does not have a physical body like we do. So He does not look like a man. We are made in His image with regards to action and personality not physical characteristics. Understand? Now - why are you so bitter?
Okay Follow me closely here and read a bit slower. 1) Scripture does not tell us what God looks like. Got it? 2) It does tell us that He does NOT have a body. Understand? 3) Men and women have bodies. Okay? 4) So since A is not equal to B and B is not equal to C then A can NOT be equal to C. In other words, since God does not have a body (A) and men do (B) then God can NOT look like a man (C). Could you follow that?
1) "These statements are MUTALLY EXLCUSIVE." Please explain what you mean using Biblical references. 2) "why does it say GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE." Once agin, the "image" is referring to the image of our personality and actions. Within the context of the rest of scripture one can surmise that we were made in the image of God's thoughts, feelings, and actions - not physical charactersitics. 3) "God is spirit..." (John 4:24)
LOL, you still clinging to your 'interpretation' of the bible 'Mr mutally exlusive'.
Heres another one for you 'no body for god' boy
Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
Ya, God has feet again. Thats three quotes that say god has a body vs 0 for 'He does not look like a man.' Nutin more fun than pwning christians on the bible.
There is some questions about this passage. i happen to believe that since Jesus was God in the flesh, that it was most likely the Preincarnate Jesus.
David is singing a song in 2 Samuel 22 - He is using imagery here. Yes, there are poetic devices in scripture just like you learned in English class. Amazing huh? :)
Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
God has Feet AGAIN. Wheres this quote that says "He does not look like a man." u claim is in the bible contradictions boy.
There are some questions about this passage. I happen to believe that since Jesus was God in the flesh, that it was most likely the Preincarnate Jesus. One passage that tells us God is spirit and not flesh is this one (you have try real hard to understand it) "God is Spirit..." (John 4:24) Also many times in scripture, it implies that Christ is God in flesh.
but now Im confused Parks, its only a post or two back you were telling me with divine authority that "It does tell us that He does NOT have a body. Understand?" and that "nowhere does scripture describe His physical being". Were you telling me sinful lies or am i just another atheist who knows MUCH more about your religion that you do?
I don't understand your problem with understanding this. What exactly are you missing? God does not have a body because "God is spirit". (John 4:24) We can guess what God's physical attributes are but we only know how He chooses to manifest Himself based on scripture. He mostly mainfests Himself using bright light.
LMAO, so you are now telling me god can predict the future! A pre-incarnation of jesus, and you base that on what exactly. But of course, if god can see that in the future mans 'free will' will make him sin, and hes gonna have to become human and die for that(WTF?), why couldnt he tell what adam was gonna do in the garden of eden?
God can not only predict the future but He is also in control of it. I am not sure why you have a problem with this. Jesus was here before the universe. (John 1:1) Jesus is God in flesh. Therefore, where God decides to manifest Himself in body in Exodus, It could be the preincarnate Jesus.
Foreordinance and foreknowledge are different things. You and I do have free will. God knew Adam would eat the apple and He knew He would throw them out. You got it!
lol, if someone can predict what someone or something is going to do, they do not have free will, they are just automotons that follow (by definition) entirely predictable rules to produce entirely predictable answers. Again the two are mutally exclusive.
I believe that God made us all in a distinct manner where He knows what we will do at any given moment. He tells us He knows everything about us even every hair on our head. By creating us in such a way that He knows what we will do, we do have free will to choose, but God already programmed us to react how we will. God directs our actions at times and allows actions to occur at other times. It is extremely difficult to explain in a box on a web site. But there's my best.
So according to you, god made hitler to kill 6 million jews. God deliberatly made stalin to kill 20 million russians. And I have no responsiblity for any of my actions, because god has already decided what i am going to do.
God made Hitler and He knew what he would do. God did not direct it to happen, but He allowed it to happen. In a way, yes, you are not directly responsible for your actions since God is sovereign. It's hard to fully explain in this manner.
Scripture tells us everything that is not of God is of Satan. And since Satan is evil and God does not condone witchcraft, then wicthcraft is of Satan. So yes, witchcraft is evil. The fall of man was part of God's plan. I can't help you don't agree with God. That's your issue.
Im still not hearing what exactly it is that you think witches do that is of 'satan or god'. What of the biblical laws that you have arbiatrily decided still have some value is it that you think witches break?
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21)
And I TELL YOU atparks, that you are mentally ill. You speak to invisible people and think that they hold physical importance even though they have no measurable effect on the physical world. Search youtube for " prayer pray prayers god squad religion " and watch n learn. I have no more concern for your threats than any other mentally ill individual.
i am not really what God pre-ordained. However, I know He pre-ordained His elect and His chosen. I am still trying to work out free will with regards to theology and am wrestling with a few different issues. However, God is in control of everything.
Im basing it on observation, you know, your responses. If someone fields an answer that is interally inconsistent (like 'ive seen an invisible pink unicorn'), they are not firing on all cylinders. Read your posts dude.
Watch the vid. I suggested, it should make things a little clearer.
So you are basing it on your own observations of my answers that you claim are inconsistent based on your own value judgments? With at least one of my responses I have explained it three times and you still don't get it. Every question but one I have been able to give you reasonable explanations that can not be disproven. Yet you fail to accept it. "I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony." (John 3:11)
Sometimes I catch myself singing this, albeit softly. It's catchy. And yeah, I agree with the sentiment - I think humans are still a work in progress. You'd think if we were intelligently designed, there wouldn't be problems like joint pain or double sets of teeth, or even astigmatism.
AeriaGl0ris 1 year ago
May as well make a cute song about it. Sure can't make a good scientific case against irreducible complexity, as seen in biochemical mechanisms such as bacterial flagellum.
But scientists have shown themselves to be as susceptible to herd-like thinking and behavior, just like anyone else. Anthropogenic Global Warming was the wake-up call, but the exact same thing goes on with ID, which undermines the notion that scientists are mere objective observers of the physical world.
DonTruman 1 year ago
A very witty song, and I certainly agree with the sentiments.
However, your ensemble singing is AWFUL. (And I say this as someone with a poor singing voice myself.) No offence, but I wouldn't advise trading in your lab coats for a career in music. :-)
herb0001 2 years ago
It's a shame in many ways that evolutionists have resorted to the same mindless and intellectually inert evangelism of the most hard line fundamentalist theists.
Of course none of you see this. Too illiterate. Instead you prefer to blindly follow a theory that you actually have extremely limited knowledge of and to behave in ways as childish as this. Though such is the state of the Dawkins reading English Middle-Class.
Hail the return of the Aristocratic elite!
AnHermeticPilgrim 3 years ago
I don't think this song was ever intended as evangelism. It's actually fairly self-deprecating, but I suppose you're determined to see evolutionists as fascists no matter what's put before you.
DielloTheRoyal 2 years ago
Very funny...the only problem is the absolutely horrible singing.
malcolmeat 3 years ago
Con esto creo que ya podemos cerrar el estadio, ¿no? :-)
SelfruledSociety 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha
hahahahahaha
I loved it
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People like you say that christian's are ignorant for not looking at the facts. Maybe if you would look at the more possible facts then you would realize you were the ignorant ones.
jakepirtle 4 years ago
Yeah, facts that feel right rather than facts with mere supporting evidence.
ff5166 3 years ago 2
LOL
Great sense of humor...
karlalavey 4 years ago 3
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456 Messianic prophecies fulfilled- what are the probabilities of that happening?
Answer: One in 10^50.
God doesn't believe in atheists. I wouldn't put Him to the test.
istherenotacause 4 years ago
Wonder how much of these "456 prophecies" was written after fact, self-fulfiling, based on faith or just made up...
madcio 4 years ago 5
Is this the gospel choir in the Church of Darwin?
pheno90 4 years ago
OMG RFL
allyssonallan 4 years ago
Science shall prevail over Incompetent Design.
crudebuster 4 years ago 2
Wondeful! Nice humor, great job guys.
BrunaoJazzistico 4 years ago
Nice job.
Vaatrad 4 years ago
Geeks for the win!
electrictwilight 4 years ago 7
you know you'd think that looking at the complexity of the universe and the human body like most scientists do, would actually increase their faith. i'll be sure to pray for you guys!
christianpunkrocker7 4 years ago
If you understood science you would see that it's just all dependent upon very simple rules. Complexity does NOT mean it came from a designer.
zandperl 4 years ago
Oh my nerds!!!
FitnessKicker 4 years ago 2
More! Make it longer!
malcolmeat 4 years ago 2
Why would an intelligent designer be so cruel as to create people so severely mentally retarded as these poor pathetic retards seem to be?
tfizl4 4 years ago
That why we keep them in cage like my brother bilo!
malcolmeat 4 years ago
Great video! Thank you!! Science shall prevail :D
Toji85 5 years ago
uh dur Bible is right cuz my parents told me so and they are scientists dur.
wookieproductions 5 years ago
I'd pay to see my Professors or TA's to sing this.
GeralCorasjo 5 years ago
This song is Awesome
IsixeightsixI 5 years ago
BEST SONG EVER!
gobaskof 5 years ago
AWESOME, sent this to all my friends
mattbourke 5 years ago
dorky but true
Acorvettes 5 years ago
There is lots of proof of evolution. Viruses and bacteria evolve to resist medications. Bugs evolve to resist poisons. We evolved over a long long period of time. The reason bugs and bacteria evolve faster is because they BREED faster. Also, you see animals evolve as we selectivly breed them for certian traits. That is why there are so many dog breeds and why people make up new ones. Now shush.
soavifox 5 years ago
Absolutly terrible singing. But I agree none the less. lol
RyanMckinney24 5 years ago
Amazing. Thank you for posting the video.
stormguy110 5 years ago
What? How does the existence of a tailbone disprove evolution? It is clearly explained by the fact that our distant ancestors had tails, and that this feature became superfluous as the great apes began to evolve, so it reduced in size but never fully disappeared. Maybe you should read a book on evolution before claiming that something you don't understand disproves it.
Steevo199 5 years ago
In addition, the reason it didn't disappear is evolutionary as well, it holds your butt muscles and sex organs in place :D
AttemptingReason 5 years ago
Well they're all going to hell.
As for the tail bone being a vestigial organ. Someone kicked me there and I couldn't walk for days. It was so annoying. But at least it DISPROVES EVOLUTION.
The Bible is like a lion; it does not need to be defended; just let it loose and it will defend itself.
-- Martin Luther
agent5000000 5 years ago
Wait, wait, hold the presses! Ass-pain is proof of God! News at 11!
You know, lions also kill their own young and feed off of dead carcasses. And they are polygamous. Me-ow! I'm just saying.
danojohnson 5 years ago
Sing it great stuff!
YOURGOD78 5 years ago
lol, don't worry, religion will evolve and try to keep up with us.
CarlPlaysMusic 5 years ago
YEZZ BEYBEY, kick them ID-azzez.;))
BigGrinCat 5 years ago
Woooooo yeah..!
croozer351 5 years ago
great song, and science always prevails over religious fundamentalism, this has happened countless times in the past. Wee, go science, ID is not science!
darkreign16 5 years ago
I hang my head in shame that I am part of the same species as ID-iots. ID-iots lonly serve to undermine the idea that DNA based life can be intelligent.
Proteios 5 years ago
>.>
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I lol'd ^^
fleetofauirbitches 5 years ago
While I agree, ID is stupid as hell... so is that song.
Malamockq 5 years ago
ID SUCKS
AnimTV 5 years ago
Genocide to all the Intelligent Design believers
Gotthelife35 5 years ago
Way to take a Christian song and blaspheme it to an extreme. Science will prevail? What happened to Pluto?
CP07 5 years ago
pluto still exists and still orbits the sun. some people just decided to make the definition of "planet" more strict as pluto was always an oddball and this was always known. it's only categorizing, it doesn't change anything.
educationalvideos 5 years ago
What happened is proof that the scientific method is still alive and kicking despite the thoeocray imposed on us by Dubya.
sorienor 5 years ago
Christian song? The tune is "John Brown's body," so unless your god is John Brown it's not a religious song at all. Come to think of it, John Brown probably has a better claim to the name than most of the notions people call God.
'Course, Julia Ward Howe did borrow the tune for The Battle Hymn of the Republic, but if she can crib it why can't these guys?
Incidentally, Howe was a Unitarian, quite possibly not a Christian depending on your definition.
bcarson60 5 years ago
Best video evar! Science WILL prevail.
oleghh 5 years ago
That's the greatest thing I've ever seen.
xxGodx 5 years ago
i do agree with you, like i said just messing with you. bacterial flagella, lol at least you knew what i was talking about. iv'e tried to fuck with people on here that had no clue.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
dude im just messin with you, it's been fun.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
LOL! yeah ok now your just being a moron. you bore me i thought you where a little more intelligent than that.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Fail.
davodavo 5 years ago
and what about what physicist-philosopher robin collins said gravity is fine tuned to one part in a hundred million million billion billion billion billion billion. he demonstrated that chance cannot reasonably account for "anthropic principle"
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
you cant get those things from materials that dont have them.darwinist philosopher michael ruse candidly said" no one, certainly not darwinian as such, seems to have an answer". nobel prize winning neurophysiologist john eccles concluded"that there is what we might call a supernatural origin of my unique self conscious mind or my unique selfhood or soul"
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
and one more thing that throws a monkey wrench in evolution,consciouness. how do you get something from nothing? if the universe began with dead matter then how do you get something totally different. living ,thinking,feeling,believing creatures.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
How do you get god, then? Fail.
davodavo 5 years ago
not to mention the astrology of it all, i guess we got really lucky to be able to get a sun that was the right mass,the right light,the right age, the right distance,the right orbit,the right galaxy,the right location- to nuture living organisms. man how lucky can we be!
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
We found it. We were already made when our sun was formed. Of course.
davodavo 5 years ago
how superbly callow, just like all the martians that dont exist sit there in their non-existance, knowing with absolute certainty that God DOES NOT exist because the conditions on essentially all planets are not congenial to life. Wow, virtually all planets dont support life, how lucky is that!
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
if it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous,succesive,slight modifications,my theory would absolutely break down.well i guess when darwin said that he didnt know about cilia and bacterial flagella. hmm guess i know a little something.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
lol, well guess i struck a nerve.so easily gotten to,idiot. i don't give two fucks about any of this shit.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Yes that's it. You struck a nerve. It's not that you're misrepresenting the opposing argument to make your own look stronger (that or you're just ignorant as shit), that you cite generic search sites which link to content riddled with fallacies as valid sources, or that you try to pass off your retarded creationist bullshit as actual science. There's no evidence, it's not testable, and its foundation is the watchmaker analogy, a circular fallacy and an argument from ignorance.
davodavo 5 years ago
nothing i said came from any website. and if they are so easily debated or proven wrong then why hasn't the scientific community done so.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
They have. Many times. You're just too retarded to notice, or doing everything you can to remain blissfully ignorant.
davodavo 5 years ago
and since we are talking numbers then what is the percentage rate of evolution occuring mathmatically. it's immpossible.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Immprobable* not impossible. you sound like a 15 year old, mommies boy, jesus hugger...just go home kid. and study your science.
1Erebus18 5 years ago
Are you fucking stupid? All you have to do is read ALL of the comments. Instead, you sat there and read one that struck some imbreed nerve you have and commented on that one. You are an idiot. If you can't tell that I was fucking with the guy then you have some serious problems.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Actually, I did. Ignorant as usual. Why does that not surprise me?
ps. i'm sure mommy wouldn't want you saying "fucking"
1Erebus18 5 years ago
You read them all and still made the stupid comments? Lol well now who's ignorant? Oh and by the way I'm old enough to be giving your mommy a good ol'hate fuck right about now for not aborting your stupidass.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
You sound like a great christian. jesus would be proud. (notice jesus isn't worth being capitalized). But what's to be expected of someone as stupid as a creationist.
1Erebus18 5 years ago
Ok I get it your a fat kid. Don't worry baby doughboy it's just baby fat. Some chicks like fat guys. Dude get a life and a fuckin girlfriend.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
That's the best you've got...sad. Well, what's to be expected of a creationist? Nothing surprising.
1Erebus18 5 years ago
CREATIONIST! YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT! As if you didn't look at my profile stupid. Do you really think that if I were a creationist that I would have vid mocking jesus? GODDAMN YOU'RE STUPID.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Well I considered that, but you're so stupid i just figured you didn't even know what an insult was.
ps. your sn is something a 15 year old would make up
go home kid, go home.
1Erebus18 5 years ago
Alright I'm done with you now. You make no sense and are here to just argue. For some reason you have this fetish for 15 year olds and I'm not it to that. So peace and JESUS FUCKING LOVES YOU.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Actualy, since he doesn't exist, I guess no one loves you. ohhhhhhh
1Erebus18 5 years ago
i think i'll put my trust in a creator before i jump on board with a bunch of jackass professors who have to write a stupid fucking song like that.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
Well have fun with your head up your ass, we won't miss you.
1Erebus18 5 years ago
Hey retard, did you not read the rest of the comments?
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
I posted a site for a reason.
99.9% IS a real number. Let me make the point that you're a creationist right? you may believe only in microevolution, but you're still a creationist. Well, anyone that doesn't accept macroevolution is a creationist or at least they'd consider it a valid theory. ... The site says "...believe in "creation-science" or consider it a valid theory..."
meaning that even if they DO accept evolution but only consider it a valid theory, they'd be included in that .01%
OranTaran 5 years ago
I accept evolution, but only MICRO-evolution. And A) Please present real numbers, because 99.9% is obviously you just saying that and B) How many of the scientists who believe in evolution only believe micro-evolution?
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
"God man in His image with regards to His personality"
WHOA, that's even worse. I mean really, god has the personality of humans?
OranTaran 5 years ago
Yeah really, that scares me if that's true. I'm an asshole.
cerebulon 5 years ago
"WHOA, that's even worse. I mean really, god has the personality of humans?" No. It means humans have some of the personality traits of God.
acoow 5 years ago
Do you mean verbally or in my mind. In my mind, yes, all the time, if you mean verbally, then every so often.
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
Proteios, why do you think that just because they are scientists that they are automatically right. Scientists were wrong about DDT. I am not saying that GUARANTEES they are wrong about that, I am just saying it isn't impossible.
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
*I misstyped when I said "I am not saying that GUARANTEES they are wrong about that," I meant to say, "I am not saying that GUARANTEES they are wrong about this," Sorry.
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
Actually, DDT is a very safe chemical that was the victim of an irrational media hysteria.
lpkmckenna 5 years ago
"Actually, DDT is a very safe chemical that was the victim of an irrational media hysteria." That's still under dispute, but DDT is worth taking another serious look at, especially considering malaria deaths in the 3rd world. But just to clarify: the jury's still out on DDT.
QuinnnniuQ 5 years ago
...and of course like most other evolutionists, they fail to remember or maybe even know that God's design was perfect at the beginning and WE messed it up - not God. They can't even get the theology correct to make fun of it.
atparks13 5 years ago
That rocks! Hilarious song, guys.
lpkmckenna 5 years ago
Yes, but they are not the only scientists with opinions. There are some VERY strong arguements made by Christian-scientists AGAINST evolution, and I would like to see what evidence they have, or have they just used their degree as an excuse to be taken seriously?
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
You seem to mistake 'christian' for 'creationist'. Please learn the difference. The absolute and overwhelming majority of biologists, regardless of religion, accepts evolution. From another viewpoint though, yes, if you reject evolutionary theory, it's because of religious reasons. Not sane ones.
Tenshu 5 years ago
I reject evolution for BOTH religious reseasons AND sane ones. You really think we started from ROCKS???? Millions of years of rain on rocks created a "soup" that could CREATE LIFE?!?!?!?!? I have VERY sane reasons for rejecting evolution.
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
LOL, those are you sane reasons? Where have you been getting your science? In sunday school? Why don't you crack open a science book for once, preferably those not sold in church.
HeathenDan 5 years ago
Umm.. I DO read science books, because at school evolution is SHOVED down our throats. And no, those aren't my only reasons, but seriously, one day this soup made by early Earth and rain decides, "You know, today I feel like making life. Then the one-celled organism will one day become giraffes, elephants, dogs, cats, birds, fish, and HUMANS!"
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
Do you question your teachers when they teach evolution?
atparks13 5 years ago
wow. what an idiot. IDs=religious fanatics with no brain stem. Want proof of evolution do you? Why the FUCK DO YOU HAVE A TAILBONE. wow. i can't wait till religion dies out. After your generation dies...we're looking good.
1Erebus18 5 years ago
have them explain why we need a reproductive system if we came into being on our own. or how a male and female came into being and how that happened. evolution is full of shit. all you have to do to block anything these jackoffs say is to go and look at scienceagainstevolution.com they cant answer one of the questions that are on there.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
There are so many fallacies and straw men and instances of irrational, illogical bullshit on that site and in what you say that I am physically pained just knowing people as ignorant as you exist.
"5. Does God exist? He has...shown Himself in the Bible."
THAT'S NOT CIRCULAR AT ALL.
That's just one of those generic search sites that capitalizes on domain name popularity, anyway. Real credible!
davodavo 5 years ago
oh really then what are they? explain how two different sexes came from the same fuckin sludge.
yourmomsboyfriend 5 years ago
You're so far in denial it's amazing you aren't drowning in Egypt. You've bought into all these straw man arguments and have no idea how evolution actually works. I'm not going to bother explaining it, because you'll just come back with the typical creationist bullshit strawmen. Go do your own fucking research and stop being so ignorant.
davodavo 5 years ago
obviously u are quoting from the controversial Kent Hovind who is an absolute nutcase. he honestly believes that 911 was set up by the American government, that humans never landed on the moon and all that bogas. my advice is not to listen to him. he uses sarcasm to persuade people that evolution is rubbish and a magical man in the sky who created everything is fact. very sad .
vissi87 5 years ago
That's not making it justice. we need numbers. Worldwide, over 99.9% of scientists in the earth and life science fields accept evolution. http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA111.html
OranTaran 5 years ago
But I don't want to get into a big debate on this video page, because like many other pro-evolution videos, this one is all opinions, no facts.
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
*Sigh* No betpiece, Ignorance is not a form of knowing things, or a tool of rational debate. Until u have a phd in science, like the people singing here or myself, maybe you should confine yourself to loftier matters, like 'what is gods favortie color?'. Remember BETpiece, the right of freedom of speach doesnt extend to the right to be taken seriously. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eijI5PEiy0c
Proteios 5 years ago
God made Ph.D's. God made you. And God told us how. Yet the words of the cross are foolishness to those who don't believe.
atparks13 5 years ago
and Im telling you atparks that most of us grew out of the need for imaginary friends before we were 10. Its time you grew up and got by without your imaginary friends, and few of us were so arrogant to promote our invisible friends to the status of creator of everything.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. (Romans 1)
atparks13 5 years ago
The ATparks response: 'its just a metaphor, it doesnt really mean that those who dont believe in god are fools, but wise!'
Just so you know the sort of warmonger you pray to"
Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. and other ambiguous bible verses like:
Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
you beleive in witches atparks? Hobgoblins too?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
I know my Lord well and yes. I believe in witches. Why? I'm not sure what a Hobgloblin is.
atparks13 5 years ago
OMG! Watch out, the Salem witch trials comming to a town near atparks. How are you going to test if they are a witch? So if you found a witch you would not suffer he to live as it says in the bible? But heres a definition for you atparks. Use of electricity makes you a witch! It makes light in the night, an unnatural act!
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Civil law from the book of Exodus are no longer necessary.
atparks13 5 years ago
you are saying that the word of god and the 10 commandments (actually the 231 or so commandments) are no longer valid? Its all the civil law in exodus!
So really atpark, u beleive in witches, what do they do and what do they look like? what does the bible tell you?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
No. There are three types of law in the Pentateuch: 1) Civil law, 2) religious law, and 3) moral law. Most of the civil laws are no longer valid. These laws were set so God's people knew how to live. Most of the religious laws are no longer valid. These set up so God's people knew how to worship. All of the moral laws are still valid. These were set up so God's people knew how to act and these were also written down as examples to us on how to act.
atparks13 5 years ago
LOL, where are these different types of law defined in the bible (which u say tells you everthing)?? Even looking at the '10 commandments' most of them are civil or religious and according to you no longer valid. Where in the bible does it say they are no longer valid?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
A thorough study of the Pentateuch and the NT will identify the different laws. The ten commandments were intended as laws to live by.
atparks13 5 years ago
exodus 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.- God lays down some commandments. But most of them are of the religious laws you seem to think are no longer valid (see above). Like gods first WORDS. 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,
-ya obsolete religous laws.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Both - these are religious (not obsolete) because it's how God tells us we should live. It's all through the NT. And most of the ten commandments are not only religious laws. They are laws for us to live by. Don't define the commandments using your definition. Study scripture and decide.
atparks13 5 years ago
bringing it onto the word of God in commandment 3
exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
Thats right u pray to a jelous god (by his own word). Further you say this is how god made man in him own image. So god made men to break his commandments? Ya sure, that makes sense for a perfect god.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
It is important here to understand how the word jealous is used. How it used in Exodus 20:5 to describe God is different than how it is used to describe the sin of jealousy (Galatians 5:20). When we use the word jealous, we use it in the sense of being envious of someone who has something we don't have. A person might be jealous or envious of a another person because he or she has a nice car or home (possessions).
atparks13 5 years ago
When we look at this verse, we find that it is not that God is jealous or envious because someone has something He wants that He does not possess. Exodus 20:4-5 says, "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God..."
atparks13 5 years ago
Notice that in this verse God is talking about being jealous if someone gives something that belongs to Him to another. In these verses, God is speaking of people making idols and bowing down and worshiping those idols instead of giving God the worship that belongs to Him alone. God is possessive of the worship and service that belong to Him.So, in summary, it is a sin when we desire, or we are envious, or we are jealous of someone because he has something that we do not have.
atparks13 5 years ago
It is a different use of the word jealous when God says He is jealous. What He is jealous for belongs to Him; worship and service belong to Him alone, and are to be given to Him alone. Remember that the same words could have different meanings - it's also evident in English. Also remember that the OT is being translated from Hebrew to English. So it does not always translate without further study.
atparks13 5 years ago
LMAO, this jelous god has just finished killing a few thousand egyptians, and you are quibbling over semantics.
Sure the bible says 'god created man in his own image' but it doesnt mean 'god created man in his own image'.
Sure the bible says 'god is jealous ' but it doesnt mean 'god is jealous '. Newsflash aparks. Even I have better writin skills than you god.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Just as thought - once again, you don't understand.
atparks13 5 years ago
face it, if you hold the bible as your moral code, then you have no place if first world civilization. Go back and live in the desert with your ox and ass, stone people who work on the sabbath, kill your children if they are disobedient, sacrifice them 'if god asks you' and take your pre-renaissance mind with you.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Even with a trivial knowledge of scripture, you should know these laws are no longer valid. I think I already told you that...but hey...you believe what lies you wish to believe. God will deal with you..."Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall proclaim His name."
atparks13 5 years ago
WHY ARE THESE LAWS NO LONGER VALID? This was the word of GOD. They appear side by side in the bible with
the '10 commandments'. I know, you have a selective mind when it comes to reading this barbaric sammarian text.
"for I the LORD thy God am a JELEOUS God,"
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
...for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM." Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us- (galatians 3)
atparks13 5 years ago
U GUYS RULE! If God made man in his own image, does God eat n shit? and if so where.......IDiots, IDiots, ID-iots, everywhere!
Proteios 5 years ago
Umm.... who says God doesn't eat. DOn't you find some foods delicious. I am going to be honest, there are some food I would still eat even if I didn't need food to survive. Who says God can't eat Heavenly feasts?
BETPiece2010 5 years ago
Nowhere in the Bible does it ever say or imply that God made man in His physical image. God man in His image with regards to His personality. The context of scripture and God's plan when studied makes it perfectly clear that our physical appearance has nothing to do with our relationship with Christ.
atparks13 5 years ago
Well I think thats even worst! Instead of God eating, shitting having bone problems etc he is actually war like, a murderer, a punisher, demanding, repulsive. Oh yeah reading the bible I can certinally see that actually! Silly me.
stefanboro 5 years ago
sigh, another christian who hasnt read the bible
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
created man in HIS own image.
Gender is established genetically. Nuf said really.
But why should god need a mouth, thats simple, 'The Lord is my Shepherd'- SHEPHERDS EAT SHEEP!
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Read what I said. I said nowhere does it imply that God created man in His PHYSICAL image. Read my post again. God created man in His image implies His personality and actions.
atparks13 5 years ago
God is not a he (of the male gender)! then why does the bible refer to him as 'he'? Surely you are not one of those people who think the bible is not LITERALLY TRUE. Or are you about to tell me that 'he' refers to his male thoughts. A point that is utterly commical as the thing that determins the different thought process of men and women is errr, physiolgy.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
"He" is grammatically correct and used to be the acceptable use. When using the singular, third person personal pronoun, it has always been acceptable to use masculine case "he" as a pronoun for an unknown person. Only until recently have more people begun using the phrase "'he' or 'she'". For example, "Somebody left trash on the patio and he or she is in trouble." See? It used to be perfectly acceptable just to use the male pronoun "he" - thus God was/is referred to as "He".
atparks13 5 years ago
So 'his' in the following sentance refers to "unknown person."
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in HIS own image.
Are you naturally this stupid or do you practice?
So what are u telling us then atparks? That you know god DOESNT look like a man because it says in the bible 'God created man in HIS own image'??
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
God is an unknown person because nowhere does scripture describe His physical being or His gender. Both are unknown. God does not have a physical body like we do. So He does not look like a man. We are made in His image with regards to action and personality not physical characteristics. Understand? Now - why are you so bitter?
atparks13 5 years ago
atparks 1 'nowhere does scripture describe His physical being'
atparks 2 'So He does not look like a man.'
do u really need me to explain why you telling me what something u claim to have no knowledge of looks like is so stupid?
PS not bitter, just annoyed bible bashers who havent read the bible and cant finish a comment without contradicting themselves.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Okay Follow me closely here and read a bit slower. 1) Scripture does not tell us what God looks like. Got it? 2) It does tell us that He does NOT have a body. Understand? 3) Men and women have bodies. Okay? 4) So since A is not equal to B and B is not equal to C then A can NOT be equal to C. In other words, since God does not have a body (A) and men do (B) then God can NOT look like a man (C). Could you follow that?
atparks13 5 years ago
"nowhere does scripture describe His physical being"
"So He does not look like a man. "
These statements are MUTALLY EXLCUSIVE.
However if the bible really meant
God created man in his own persona, why does it say GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE.
"2) It does tell us that He does NOT have a body"
really? care to give chapter and verse on that!
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
1) "These statements are MUTALLY EXLCUSIVE." Please explain what you mean using Biblical references. 2) "why does it say GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE." Once agin, the "image" is referring to the image of our personality and actions. Within the context of the rest of scripture one can surmise that we were made in the image of God's thoughts, feelings, and actions - not physical charactersitics. 3) "God is spirit..." (John 4:24)
atparks13 5 years ago
LOL, you still clinging to your 'interpretation' of the bible 'Mr mutally exlusive'.
Heres another one for you 'no body for god' boy
Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
Ya, God has feet again. Thats three quotes that say god has a body vs 0 for 'He does not look like a man.' Nutin more fun than pwning christians on the bible.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
There is some questions about this passage. i happen to believe that since Jesus was God in the flesh, that it was most likely the Preincarnate Jesus.
atparks13 5 years ago
LOL, Samuel 22 says god has nostrels ears n feet.
22:7 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried to my God: and he did hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry did enter into his ears.
22:8 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth. etc
Take yer ovaltine 'no body for god' boy!
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
David is singing a song in 2 Samuel 22 - He is using imagery here. Yes, there are poetic devices in scripture just like you learned in English class. Amazing huh? :)
atparks13 5 years ago
Exodus 24:10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
God has Feet AGAIN. Wheres this quote that says "He does not look like a man." u claim is in the bible contradictions boy.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
There are some questions about this passage. I happen to believe that since Jesus was God in the flesh, that it was most likely the Preincarnate Jesus. One passage that tells us God is spirit and not flesh is this one (you have try real hard to understand it) "God is Spirit..." (John 4:24) Also many times in scripture, it implies that Christ is God in flesh.
atparks13 5 years ago
but now Im confused Parks, its only a post or two back you were telling me with divine authority that "It does tell us that He does NOT have a body. Understand?" and that "nowhere does scripture describe His physical being". Were you telling me sinful lies or am i just another atheist who knows MUCH more about your religion that you do?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
I don't understand your problem with understanding this. What exactly are you missing? God does not have a body because "God is spirit". (John 4:24) We can guess what God's physical attributes are but we only know how He chooses to manifest Himself based on scripture. He mostly mainfests Himself using bright light.
atparks13 5 years ago
LMAO, so you are now telling me god can predict the future! A pre-incarnation of jesus, and you base that on what exactly. But of course, if god can see that in the future mans 'free will' will make him sin, and hes gonna have to become human and die for that(WTF?), why couldnt he tell what adam was gonna do in the garden of eden?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
God can not only predict the future but He is also in control of it. I am not sure why you have a problem with this. Jesus was here before the universe. (John 1:1) Jesus is God in flesh. Therefore, where God decides to manifest Himself in body in Exodus, It could be the preincarnate Jesus.
atparks13 5 years ago
so if god can predict the future, then he must know what I am going to do. By your definition I have no freewill.
So when God created adam, he knew he was going to eat the apple? and then he knew he was going to get angry and thow adam out etc?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Foreordinance and foreknowledge are different things. You and I do have free will. God knew Adam would eat the apple and He knew He would throw them out. You got it!
atparks13 5 years ago
lol, if someone can predict what someone or something is going to do, they do not have free will, they are just automotons that follow (by definition) entirely predictable rules to produce entirely predictable answers. Again the two are mutally exclusive.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
I believe that God made us all in a distinct manner where He knows what we will do at any given moment. He tells us He knows everything about us even every hair on our head. By creating us in such a way that He knows what we will do, we do have free will to choose, but God already programmed us to react how we will. God directs our actions at times and allows actions to occur at other times. It is extremely difficult to explain in a box on a web site. But there's my best.
atparks13 5 years ago
So according to you, god made hitler to kill 6 million jews. God deliberatly made stalin to kill 20 million russians. And I have no responsiblity for any of my actions, because god has already decided what i am going to do.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
God made Hitler and He knew what he would do. God did not direct it to happen, but He allowed it to happen. In a way, yes, you are not directly responsible for your actions since God is sovereign. It's hard to fully explain in this manner.
atparks13 5 years ago
Cute, so from before when god made adam to sin and mankind to suffer DELIBERATLY. And you think witches are evil!
But please do explain why preordained is not just a divine prediction.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
Scripture tells us everything that is not of God is of Satan. And since Satan is evil and God does not condone witchcraft, then wicthcraft is of Satan. So yes, witchcraft is evil. The fall of man was part of God's plan. I can't help you don't agree with God. That's your issue.
atparks13 5 years ago
Im still not hearing what exactly it is that you think witches do that is of 'satan or god'. What of the biblical laws that you have arbiatrily decided still have some value is it that you think witches break?
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21)
atparks13 5 years ago
And I TELL YOU atparks, that you are mentally ill. You speak to invisible people and think that they hold physical importance even though they have no measurable effect on the physical world. Search youtube for " prayer pray prayers god squad religion " and watch n learn. I have no more concern for your threats than any other mentally ill individual.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
What are you basing that on?
atparks13 5 years ago
i am not really what God pre-ordained. However, I know He pre-ordained His elect and His chosen. I am still trying to work out free will with regards to theology and am wrestling with a few different issues. However, God is in control of everything.
atparks13 5 years ago
Im basing it on observation, you know, your responses. If someone fields an answer that is interally inconsistent (like 'ive seen an invisible pink unicorn'), they are not firing on all cylinders. Read your posts dude.
Watch the vid. I suggested, it should make things a little clearer.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
So you are basing it on your own observations of my answers that you claim are inconsistent based on your own value judgments? With at least one of my responses I have explained it three times and you still don't get it. Every question but one I have been able to give you reasonable explanations that can not be disproven. Yet you fail to accept it. "I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony." (John 3:11)
atparks13 5 years ago