SELF-REALIZATION PART 2 of 2 - Is it Science or Spirituality

[LymricTheAnomaly]

So our Virtual World isnt in our Virtual Minds. There is no such thing as a Virtual Mind. Our Virtual World is created subconsciously by Our Real Spiritual/Physical Selves' Minds.

Sorry for all the long-ass posts, just was really interested in this one.

[Mindlighten]

@LymricTheAnomaly YOU ARE DEFINITELY A THINKER!

BUT AGAIN...LONG STORY SHORT, THE VIRTUAL MIND AND VIRTUAL WORLD IS ONE AND THE SAME THING. THE WORLD YOU EXPERIENCE IS YOUR MIND!!!

AND THE REAL SELF DOESN'T HAVE A SEPARATE MIND OR CONSCIOUSNESS OR FOR THAT MATTER SUBCONSCIOUSNESS.

ALSO THE REAL/SPIRIT WORLD IS NOT PHYSICAL -- ONLY THE PRESENTATION IN MIND IS EXPERIENCED AS PHYSICAL, WHICH TOO IS ONLY AN EXPERIENCE OF PHYSICAL BUT ITSELF IS NOT PHYSICAL.

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[Mindlighten]

@Mindlighten ...CONTINUED...

IF YOU DO WANT TO THEN YOU CAN STATE IT THIS WAY:

YOUR VIRTUAL WORLD IS CREATED AND MANIFESTED BY YOUR REAL BRAIN-MIND SYSTEM OF YOUR REAL BODY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR REAL SELF.

IT'S A VERY SUBTLE ISSUE THAT'S CAUSING THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN OUR TWO PARADIGMS.

APPRECIATE ALL YOUR COMMENTS ANY WAY! POST MORE WHEN YOU LIKE.

[Mindlighten]

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT A'SHOY ASHOI THINKS OF THESE COMMENTS, INCLUDING MINE...IF HE IS READING THIS.

[LymricTheAnomaly]

Our True, Real Spiritual World Selves might experience Real Spiritual Reality in the Truest meaning of Physical, one we could never imaging... cause were restricted and limited the the guesses and put together realities that we create and perceive as real...... all while Our True, Physical/Spiritual Selves are completely unaware of what they created.... Us, the Mental, Virtual Awareness we call "Us" and "They are completely unaware of! Our Virtual World is Their Subconscious in Their Mind

[LymricTheAnomaly]

Also, if the Real World is the Spiritual World, and the world I experience now is the Virtual, Mental World,... then perhaps its possible that the Real Spiritual World is Physical. Think about it... what we experience now is in the mind... a virtual world created by the real and unaware us. We think what we perceive is physical, and thus use that as a basis as what it means to have physical mass, yet its all made up... all mental and virtual yet feels so real. The Spiritual World mite B physical

[LymricTheAnomaly]

Thus, what and who we are in the Real World may not even be aware of its underlying subconscious creations/experiences. We, the subconscious, were created by the Real Us and we are aware of our Creators... the True Us in the Real World, but our Creators... Our True Selves, are completely unaware of the subconscious reality they create, and what their created subconscious experiences in a portion of Our Real Mind.... That's wild!. I think about stuff like this all the time.

[LymricTheAnomaly]

So my question is, if we create, and perceive this self manifestation of a virtual world with our minds.... does that mean our True Entities share one mind with our "perceived self"?... I mean... is it a part of our "mind" in the real world that manifests this virtual world we perceive to live in? Like... maybe what we perceive here in the virtual world is simply our Real Selves' subconsciousness.

[Mindlighten]

@LymricTheAnomaly THE REAL SELF DOESN'T HAVE A SEPARATE MIND OR CONSCIOUSNESS OR SUBCONSCIOUSNESS.

IF YOUR REAL SELF'S SUBCONSCIOUSNESS IS THE MIND YOU EXPERIENCE THEN WHY NOT JUST CALL IT YOUR REAL SELF'S MIND INSTEAD OF CALLING IT SUBCONSCIOUSNESS.

I HAVE KNOWN MANY WHO START THINKING LIKE YOU ARE AND THEN REALIZE THE FLAW IN THEIR THINKING. BUT THINKING IS A GOOD EXERCISE. ENJOY!

[LymricTheAnomaly]

Question... if the real world (the spiritual world) is the truest form of "you" and "pure reality", then what we experience here in the virtual mind world is just a portion, or a small aspect of the "Real World".

[Mindlighten]

@LymricTheAnomaly THE VIRTUAL MIND WORLD IS NOT A "PORTION" OF THE REAL WORLD AS SUCH, AS IT IS IN THE MIND DIMENSION, WHICH IS PARALLEL TO THE REAL WORLD OF PHYSICS/MATTER.

--- HOWEVER, THE MIND WORLD PRESENTS A SPECIES-SPECIFIC MODEL WITH ASPECTS THAT ARE CORRELATED TO THE REAL WORLD BUT THOSE ASPECTS ARE NOT ASPECTS OF THE REAL WORLD AS SUCH. THOSE ASPECTS ARE ONLY ASPECTS WITHIN THE MODEL -- THE MIND WORLD.

[kachetil]

i agree with all this you are saying but!as you can see i don`t have the choise of what reality i experience,also right now!where ever pain exist reality exist!how can imagine all this pain is an illussion!

[Mindlighten]

Please don't confuse the issue.

Pain or any other experience is NOT an "illusion" as though it doesn't exist. It exists! After all you experience it! So it exists! But it exists as AN EXPERIENCE IN THE MIND.

YOUR MIND IS FUNCTIONAL PERCEPTUAL INTERFACE TO THE REAL WORLD. So you must understand!

Like a "television" is an INTERFACE that presents 2-D IMAGES representing what cameras captured in the REAL WORLD.

So....when you watch TV do you believe that there are real little people in it?.No!

[Mindlighten]

So when you watch TV you do realize that there are no "real" actual little people inside the box, but you do realize that the IMAGES on TV (such as when you watch the NEWS on TV) are presentations of what the cameras captureed in the REAL WORLD.

Your MIND is your TV presenting to you a FUNCTIONAL MODEL PRESENTATION of what's happening in the REAL WORLD outside your mind. You get the data from the REAL WORLD through your sensory organs like 'eyes', 'ears', etc.

[Mindlighten]

So understand this.

TV, or photographs or television presents VIRTUAL images. It simply means that an IMAGE of a PERSON or THING is not the "REAL" PERSON or the "REAL" THING itself. It is an """IMAGE""" presentation....a VIRTUAL presentation...or call it a VIRTUAL REALITY.presentation.

That is what Ashoi is explaining to us.

I experience the VIRTUAL presentation in my MIND, which gives me information about the REAL WORLD that I exist in. But I don't EXPERIENCE THE REAL WORLD directly!!!

[Mindlighten]

Read Ashoi's book: "MIND DIMENSION" if you are truly interested. The issues are very simple to understand if you comprehend it systematically when you read his book.

Hope this helps.

[dudecummon]

So is it brain>mind>spirit>creator? Are we having this VR "reality" spun / animated by our spirit? Man, this is really fascinating and jaw-dropping stuff.

[castlesmadeofrad]

and now  i will grow up inspired by this. thank you.

[RealityEngines]

How about some more videos talking about "The Spirit World" and a continuation of the discussion that gets cut off at the end.

[RealityEngines]

Check out the my background illustration on my channel. It illustrates what Ashoi talks about in the first of the video.