Capoeira Mumbai India

[shango1963]

@Capoeze

lol-and this comment is related to supporting your point how exactly...When you make the bold rebuttals you have, back them up factually...Citing Nestor's book should be but a footnote in your argument, not the main point of reference. Capoeira did not develope in a cultural void. What were the "Brazilian" concepts and techniques that formed it?

[shango1963]

You left out the word AFRICAN in your description of the art first off. Read Nestors work, it add nothing to the pot. Have you read Dr. Obi's work-he has been to Angola on field research ans has seen it live. I am a practitioner of several African martial arts, such as libanda. Further, if you were truly aware of the art even in Brazil, you'd know the art has had various names-so what?

[shango1963]

You do know that as you flag your ignorant lips, there are exchanges between Martinican Danmyete/Majo Danmye (Danmye Experts) and Capoeira Mestres which occur in Bahia as of 2009 or so, right? The connection between these related African arts has already begun. Surely an authority on the subject such as yourself is aware of this?

[shango1963]

At the very least, Capoeira is AFRICAN-Brazilian, or did you selectively forget that part, and not simply "Brazilian," as you would have it. The core techniques, including its acrobatics, can all be found on the African continent, such as in African dances like the Egbabonelimwin of Nigeria, which can be accessed right here on youtube...Next time research first before opening your mouth on subjects about which you are clearly ignorant.

[shango1963]

...Which are related to African-Brazilian Capoeira (Mani from African-Cubano arts as well-and the Engolo of Angola-for which see Dr. T.J. Desch Obi's works on the matter). Using the analogy of Africans in Goa as an example is ludicrous, as it tells you nothing about their PRACTICES PRIOR TO ARRIVING THERE NOR FROM WHERE ON THE CONTINENT THEY DERIVED. There are Indians in Trinidad, but none, until recently, practiced Kalaripayattu-so what!?

[shango1963]

@Capoeze

You have no clue about what you are talking about nor are you an authority, clearly, on African peoples and cultures. There are various related martial arts practices on the African continent and the African Diaspora-The Ostrich fight game among the Kung! of the Kalahari Desert naming one-Asafo Atwele among the Ga of Ghana; Ladja-Danmye in Martinique, Knocking and Kicking from African-American related systems,

[puganufur]

Those people playing capoeira are indians or brazilians?