Thank you Philoctetes for this amazing video; this is a great meeting of great minds. Although it's very demanding and lengthy, (way beyond the attention span of a typical youtube user I think) it is worthwhile watching again and again because of the problem it tackles. I would add to the discussion the concept of a rhizome by Deleuze and Guatari because it is a way of explaining the unexplainable and at the same time avoiding the reductionist simplification.
In the case of explaining ones own experience, one must be outside of that experience, the explanation coming after the experience. In the one case one is a subject, in the other an object of inquiry.
This divide can be further explicated by referring to other Philoctetes panels (the Free Will one) when Akeel Bilgrami quotes Spinoza that one cannot at the same time intend to do something and also predict that one will do it...
35-36 min. in: I think this divide or conflict (that is very real) between experience and explanation can be explained (ironically) by saying that one cannot at the same time experience something and explain their experience; experience has one inside oneself so to speak, necessarily, and explanation has one outside of the phenomena to be explained, also necessarily.
explanation presupposes causality.. phenomenology attempts to describe without presupposition. everyone but casey and the Buddhist lady are fucking thoughtless idiots.
Great idea. I was waiting for 9:35 minutes for it to actually begin wading through the most difficult introduction I have ever seen. It was almost painful but the subject and Idea was brilliant.
these are great posts ... we are lucky to have these at our disposal ....
ubermensch81 1 year ago 3
Thank you Philoctetes for this amazing video; this is a great meeting of great minds. Although it's very demanding and lengthy, (way beyond the attention span of a typical youtube user I think) it is worthwhile watching again and again because of the problem it tackles. I would add to the discussion the concept of a rhizome by Deleuze and Guatari because it is a way of explaining the unexplainable and at the same time avoiding the reductionist simplification.
pawsoned 1 year ago
i'm sorry, but could you repeat that? I was distracted by those legs.
doobie1191 1 year ago
... The first has a person in a way inside oneself, intending, and the other has one stepping outside of oneself, making predictions about oneself.
zappa3837 2 years ago
In the case of explaining ones own experience, one must be outside of that experience, the explanation coming after the experience. In the one case one is a subject, in the other an object of inquiry.
This divide can be further explicated by referring to other Philoctetes panels (the Free Will one) when Akeel Bilgrami quotes Spinoza that one cannot at the same time intend to do something and also predict that one will do it...
zappa3837 2 years ago
35-36 min. in: I think this divide or conflict (that is very real) between experience and explanation can be explained (ironically) by saying that one cannot at the same time experience something and explain their experience; experience has one inside oneself so to speak, necessarily, and explanation has one outside of the phenomena to be explained, also necessarily.
zappa3837 2 years ago
explanation presupposes causality.. phenomenology attempts to describe without presupposition. everyone but casey and the Buddhist lady are fucking thoughtless idiots.
ultrak0w 2 years ago
kill me now!
parisianna87 2 years ago
C. Peacocke rules! Death to phenomenology! Long live analytic philosophy!
raffen79 2 years ago
Great idea. I was waiting for 9:35 minutes for it to actually begin wading through the most difficult introduction I have ever seen. It was almost painful but the subject and Idea was brilliant.
drzenojr 2 years ago 4
Interesting listen. Thank you for the post.
airparis05 2 years ago