IUFOC 2011: Richard Dolan Takes on John Alexander

[RandyLahey911]

Richard Dolan is entirely a more convincing source than Hoagland, who seems to base his arguements on some grainy jpg artefacts and some very wishful thinking. He was effectively discredited in a large part in my opinion by the example of 'telephone box leylines' ie the propensity for the pattern recognition capacity of the human brain to generate geometric meaning from abitrary connections between the locations of phone boxes..

[skylark8008]

If these people were in control, they wouldn't be dealing with civilian markets to make their ends meet.

[skylark8008]

What does $1 Trillion buy in a Black Project? Let alone several trillion?

Manual labour, raw materials, energy? From what's said, such budgets actually look rather astronomical in size for such tight and ship-shape operations. Black Projects/Budgets are going to be compact, by their very nature of secrecy. There may be global Black Projects going on so it would be further wrong to think the budget comes solely out of the US treasury alone.

[GodlessPeaceTM]

It is true Micheal did try to highjack this site for his own personal gain.Micheal you will never come off as more than a scam artist unless you can take your lumps with patience and maturity.You may not be able to make any headway in this lifetime so chill on your attacks and attempts at discrediting others .This will only work against you!

[2013julio]

Richard Thank You!!!

[killaharmonics]

it looks like ol richy did alot of investigation. dahur 1, where and in what context was that einstein quote. also, have u investigated mr dolan? hmmmm practice what we preach. dude knows what hes talking about.

Mr. Dolan what do u think about aliens actually being a demonic force?

[killaharmonics]

it looks like ol richy did alot of investigation. dahur 1, where and in what context was that einstein quote. also, have u investigated mr dolan? hmmmm practice what we preach. dude knows what hes talking about.

[MrPaolo101]

Pls post the whole lecture?...if poss?(copyright?)...

Looks like Richie was on fire...

Also..i noticed that jerusalem ufo has been linked to some of RMD's vids...although many have called 'shinanigans' on it..

just wondering what is your take on it?

[nuggz503]

good stuff, Richie

[MsElise2009]

Really excellent! Thanks so much

[MrPaolo101]

Thankyou Richard....

Not only for your cont. quest to bring the rest of us 'up to speed' on this topic, but for your example of how to deal with "men" like Mr. Horn!... Not really sure what his agenda was for entering this forum in the manner he did, but as a relative newb, I understand why the rest of the comunity has/is dealing with that 'case' in the manner that they are!. MH... you are not doing yourself any favours!...

[dahur]

"Condemnation without investigation is the HIGHEST FORM OF IGNORANCE"

--Albert Einstein

[GodlessPeaceTM]

@dahur it is i feel indignant to assume it hasn't been investigated thoroughly . Your quote changes nothing if you yourself haven't got a clue.

[dahur]

"The US Government hasn't maintained secrecy regarding UFOs - it's been leaking out all over the place.

But the way it's been handled is by denial, by denying the truth of the documents that have leaked. By attempting to show them as fraudulent, as bogus of some sort. There has been a very large disinformation and misinformation effort around this whole area. And one must wonder, how better to hide something out in the open than just to say, 'It isn't there.' "

Dr Edgar Mitchell

NASA Astronaut

[fafoosnick6839]

LOL @ your 'cheating' comment, Mr. Dolan!!! Too funny!

[dahur]

I have been immersed in this subject for 25 years. And almost every time I watch one of Mr. Dolan's video's I learns something new.

Thank you Mr. Dolan. for your non-stop efforts, and work to keep the public aware. I applaud all the people who come forward and talk, despite the risks, and ridicule.

I continue to point at the debunkers, shake my head, and burst out laughing.

"Debunkers are like a slinky. They don't serve any purpose, but they're still fun to kick down the stairs."

[UniversalPeaceLove]

They denied this topic for so many decates... they can't just come out and tell the truth.. I think disclosure will just happen if the ET' themselves display over our major cities to make their presence known. as long they dont do that, our gov's will be quiet because they're safe !

[eagle1023]

@UniversalPeaceLove Check out the "swamp gas" inspecting the mission here:

UFO - NASA Mission STS 133 Meets Unidentified Object

-- oops, I meant to say check out the "space debris" inspecting... lol

They're here so say hello! lol :)

[spb01]

right after i saw a ufo in 2002 i excitedly jumped on the internet and looked for similar sightings, the first thing i found was the dc area chase mentioned here. this thing was moving extremely fast and there was no sound, it really made a big impact on me.

[FrankenBeenz]

imo, i don't see why horn was banned for holding dolan's feet to the fire ... i mean, really ... compared to a few lights in the sky & the roswell crash, the info meier brings to the table is what it's all about .. not sure why supposedly credible investigators mostly ignore meier unless that would destroy their whole gig ... i guess meier is even a threat to UFO investigators covering up one of their own so they can continue making a living off the credulous & gullible ... kind of like religion

[Jaibo727]

One of the traits of a good researcher is the ability for them to admit when they simply "don't know". I've heard Rich say it more than once. I don't think I've every heard him say,

"Neither you nor any of the other "researchers" who depend on the irrelevant chase-your-tail nonsense have been able to challenge the facts of the Meier case but you all continue the farce."

:)

[dubstones]

Rich is correct to do this. It is important that the ufological community learn to be civil, to conduct themselves appropriately, and to not create side-shows of ego and vanity. This only undermines our ability to bring about the necessary social change that will allow conditions to emerge that will cause true Disclosure. Moving on...

[RichardMDolan]

Okay, sorry Michael Horn, but I really will not allow myself to waste any more time replying to your irrelevant posts. And since I will not allow you to post willynilly on my channel -- since all you do is effectively enter a room and hijack it for your own purposes -- I am blocking you.

[dubstones]

@RichardMDolan Bravo!

[Zameen4]

@RichardMDolan you are merely blocking Mr. horn because you know that you are doing nothing but trying to preserve your career. Roswell is over with. talking about sightings is pointless and YOU know it! Stanton Friedman is doing nothing more than what you are doing. sucking off of the ufological community for a buck. if you were serious then you would want to know why they are here, and quit talking about sightings and the reluctance of the gov't. to tell anyone. who cares what they know?

[RichardMDolan]

@Zameen4 Nope. I blocked him because he was obnoxious.

[Zameen4]

@RichardMDolan What are you going to do if the gov't comes out and confirms it all? will you still have a job? and if they disclose your precious information, where do we go from there? who else do we tell? what are you going to do then? why not try to figure out some truth? perhaps the sightings are less important than the message. perhaps we should stop our nuclear and environmental catastrophes and listen to what they say concerning the welfare and future of the human race on earth.

[Zameen4]

@RichardMDolan you should know as an intelligent and scholarly fellow that hiding and covering up the truth is impossible. it will smolder like burning ember's until the air can catch it again and blow the ember's into flames. these flames will ignite the ufological community and bring it crashing down around you and the other muckrakers. It's time to start bringing the truth to light and stop wasting time! the world is changing rapidly and we have a responsibility to uphold.

[RichardMDolan]

@Zameen4 Indeed we do. We are all trying to do our part to help that. Myself included.

[lomi1]

@Zameen4 you should know that the tobacco Industry kept deadly secrets for decades from our kids & the world by falsifying medical research & that was merely for profit. An ET presence urges a vast incentive to deny & ridicule a world of their lying eyes. It seems rather naive to believe your government could & would not be willing to lie to you about ETs to prevent at the time a real panic. I remain skeptical of a government that is proven in their own records to be deceptive to it's populace.

[Greenmaker71]

@RichardMDolan Maybe if you just told us Columbus discovered America and other interesting "facts" like that, Mr. Horn would feel more at home. I think he is still bitter that Santa doesn't have a naughty or nice list and all that time he spent raking the lawn and going to church every Sunday was for naught. Seriously, your talks are the most informed, detailed fact finding bits of information I have seen yet. All these people want facts, you give it to them, and suddenly even that isn't enough.

[killilumnow]

@RichardMDolan I've had email discussions with Mr Horn. He wouldn't address the one point I wanted him to clear up, all he could do was just praise Billy Meier. He would not discuss the issue of the faked model where it was clear that a garbage bin lid had been used in the making of the model. These things can be planted amongst a pile of good valid data in an effort to discredit the whole story.

Same as Bob Dean's NASA # AS-12-51-8553 pic, an obvious fake BUT if addressed it could be sorted.

[DCGULL01]

So many Billy Meier videos, so many places to keep the focus? Why here on an unrelated video Mr. Horn?

Dave

P.S. Thanks for 'keeping it nice', just move along and stay in your forums...This is unrelated to BIlly Meier & is not the location to open it up. BM is a bit a yawn, time for a nap!

[8Michael12]

@RichardMDolan Well you took on John Alexander, who's right about the UFO community and to so-called disclosure. So I am pointing out that you too have been given abundant evidence that supports the authenticity of the STILL ONGOING Meier contacts. Neither you nor any of the other "researchers" who depend on the irrelevant chase-your-tail nonsense have been able to challenge the facts of the Meier case but you all continue the farce. If telling the truth here is "talking trash" then so be it.

[RichardMDolan]

@8Michael12 Michael, for a guy who has shown zero evidence for having looked at anything OTHER than the Meier case, you have a lot of arrogance for saying the things you do. You have never indicated that you know the first thing about the history of the UFO phenomenon other than your one case. Therefore, your criticisms lack credibility in my opinion.

[8Michael12]

@RichardMDolan First, if the Meier case is authentic that ends the discussion about lights in the sky, doesn''t it? Also, I learned about Roswell in 1958, and having spent 32 years over all in research, I can tell you that the phenomenon is completely UNIMPORTANT, certainly in comparison to Meier's 26,000+ pages of vitally important information. So your basis for what is "credible" leaves a whole lot to be desired. But that's never stopped any UFO "experts" from dodging the facts.

[RichardMDolan]

@8Michael12 You learned about Roswell in "1958"? Ha. Sure you did. Sorry. No sale. Maybe you meant 1978 -- I will assume that's what you meant. All of which means that you learned about it when everyone else did.

[8Michael12]

@RichardMDolan You're not displaying a very professional attitude, effectively calling me a liar. However, while I'm not surprised at your technique, I can assure you that I learned about it in the lobby of the former Bateman private school, 20 Burton Place as I recall, in Chicago (the old McCormick mansion). I was 13 at the time and the person that told me was a fellow student...the son of an Air Force officer. As for any real "debate" between us, I now see why you've carefully avoided it.

[RichardMDolan]

@8Michael12 Really now? I never implied you were a liar. But ... 1958? Are you serious? Michael, I can honestly say that debating people with obvious "issues" in their life is never high on my agenda. I avoided you out of politeness to you. And also because I am not interested in wasting my time. Like in this thread.

[DCGULL01]

@8Michael12

So many Billy Meier videos-so many places to keep the focus? Why here on an unrelated video Mr. Horn? RMD, why allow this thread to be highjacked/ Let it go.

Dave

P.S. BMH-Thanks for 'keeping it nice', just move along and stay in your forums...This video is unrelated to BIlly Meier & is not the location to open it up. Your one armed Austrian farmer (BM) is a bit a yawn, time for a nap!

[DCGULL01]

RMD! Love this vid! Of course there's proof that the Gov't is interested, of course there's a protocol to intercepting 'UFO's, and yes- there is a place where it all goes! John Alexander- how small minded you are! But, like these 'Black' projects, everything is compartmentalized- much easier to keep a lid on, nested "stories within stories', this is where we diverge on the breakaway civilization. Few do the work, less know a piece, but, few know it all. TRW, SAIC, EG & G, Cheney's Company...

[8Michael12]

How brilliant, for the "UFO community" and these so-called "researchers" it's still about...1980. Everyone's babbling about lights in the sky and "disclosure". There's one thing left to disclose and that's the unique authenticity of the Billy Meier case. The REASON for the ONLY scientifically proven UFO contacts is contained in the INFORMATION, the prophetically accurate SCIENTIFIC and ENVIRONMENTAL information. Those who promote UFO nonsense would be out of business if they told the truth.

[RichardMDolan]

@8Michael12 Ah, I see that Michael Horn has decided to deposit his leavings on my Youtube page. Why bother with measured discussion or debate when invective and sarcasm are available? I am leaving this on for a day, Michael, and I am then deleting it. I allow all opinions and exchanges on my page -- but not trash talking. Go soil someone else's page instead.

[8Michael12]

@RichardMDolan P.S. Regarding any "discussion and debate", all concerned can read "India 1964: The Foundational Evidence that Establishes the Authenticity of the Billy Meier UFO Contacts" and then decide why it's more important for people to carry on about the UFO phenomena, without any substance, over the most important and relevant story in human history. If what I'm saying is true...I'm not the one "talking trash", am I? You can remove my posts but my challenge stands.

[RichardMDolan]

@8Michael12 I might let your posts stand in order to let people see how your mind works. Your arrogance is matched only by your utter lack of knowledge of what I was even talking about.

[8Michael12]

@RichardMDolan And, over all, what you're talking about is extremely low on the relevance scale. If you do want to see how my mind works feel free to ASK pertinent questions. And trouble yourself to "discover" the contents of the now 69 years of Meier's contacts and the information that he's been publishing since 1951...when he was only 14 years old. Should we still concern ourselves with what the "government" does or doesn't know...or should we start learning what's important for ourselves?

[RichardMDolan]

@8Michael12 Clearly, we should learn about this phenomenon from all valid sources. And that means, OF COURSE, we should concern ourselves with what the government does and does not know. You are in your mid-60s, Michael -- you should know better.

[bavwill]

@8Michael12 I don't get it. Wasn't Billy Meier, the one who used a pic from an magazine claiming it was one of the ETs he met, debunked?

[jkjerome1]

@8Michael12

Of all the things you could argue over with with the best UFO researcher out there, you pick Billy Meier .. seriously? You embarrass yourself man. In case you've somehow missed what can only be described as overwhelming evidence of this case being a complete fraud, do yourself a massive favour and edify yourself - enter "billy meier debunked" into youtube and take a couple of hours to read and watch. Richard deals in facts - you deal in whatever you *want* to believe.

[WinduChi6]

Richard have you heard about this?

youtube(.)com/watch?v=R1yB7qbA­CTk

Well, it appear the shit is about to be flung at the fan!

I'm going to really enjoy watching those Debunkers squirm! ;-)

There ass is GRASS! LOL

[skogsturken]

This is so true! I've been captured by aliens.

[WinduChi6]

Good job Richard! John Alexander is delusional to say there isn't a massive cover-up!

I wonder if you are a Sagittarius? ;-)

[RichardMDolan]

@WinduChi6 Haha. Nope. July 1. Cancer.

[WinduChi6]

@RichardMDolan [Haha. Nope. July 1. Cancer.]

Well, I don't know if you are the actual Richard M Dolan, you just can't trust people these days. Deceptions are everywhere.

However, I'm a Sagittarius & Sagittarians don't tolerate LIES!

Well, if you really are who you say you are. You are really doing a good service for humanity.

Never give up & Never surrender!

We will get Full ET Disclosure with a capital D if we have the will & determination to kick ass & take names to achieve victory. ;-)

[DCGULL01]

Funny, I watched this right after considering the simple question of "Why would governments want to deny this as real?". Thanks to the fabulous diligent work of Richard, there is oodles of written proof of this deception, which he has researched thoroughly! So, we know that the secret is no longer safe (cat's out of the bag?) and I think we all can come up with at least on reason why no gov't would ever want to admit that they exist- so, who's left? Will a real skeptic please stand up?

Dave

[TheRealDerfMan]

Great job all around, Richard...! =)

[lllwindrunner]

I'm so glad Richard Dolan addressed this stuff... I think part of what makes him such a good speaker is because basic logical reasoning and truth so often resonates in our ears and minds better than complex disinformation. Great job!

[Jaibo727]

Great ending to a good video!

"I want that down to Zero, dammit!" That is exactly what happened! It happens in my business, that's for sure.

When can we see to whole presentation?? Good job--wish I could have been there.