H.M.S CA-Kent, CL-Belfast, CL-Ajax VS BC Graf Spee, Prinz E

[woofdogmeow]

if prinz eugen had been at the battle she would have been broke down and out of fuel. That class of cruiser had notoriously bad engines. This battle seems to have gone the way the original battle did the UK heavy knocked out of the battle and the Germans badly damaged far from home. This would have ended up the same way the germans scuttle there ships to avoid internment in paraguay or argentina.

[joaoonda]

If only Prinz Eugen was at the River Plate battle, the battle would have been very, very different. It would have been a second Coronel... and of course, the british would send imediatly the Hood to sink the Graf Spee...

[deino117]

Great video - complete with dramatic manoeuvres and everything! Did you make any more showing how it turns out?

One comment - sometimes I wish you didn't move the camera around quite so often, so we could stay with one ship for a few salvos.

But still, this is very entertaining. Great work!

BTW, what's the game? I can see it's old and out of date, graphically, but to me it seems to have great play value.

[YARROWS]

My Grandfather served on the Kent in ww2 and made it to the rank of Petty Officer.

[ToonandBBfan]

HMS Belfast was the best British cruiser of WW2

[MarcusSaide]

Ahh "Fighting Steel" I used to love that game. They need to make a sequel with the Silent Hunter 4 engine.

[sinjinthule]

The German's designated all four pocket battleships as heavy cruisers.

[Ahernar1]

Also germans thinked of Hipper class as having better fighting value . The pocket BB's were poorly armored and have slower speed . This fight GS was lucky , even a 6" could penetrate a turret at this range putting half of main armament offline . She was build to engage at long range .

[ToonandBBfan]

@Ahernar1

The 6 inch shells could not penetrate a turret.

The turrets and the tower was the best armoured part of the ship.

Hippers horizontal armour was poor by the way and she guzzled fuel.

The bursting charge for an AP 11 inch shell was 14.5lbs whilst even the Amercian superheavy 8 inch shell bursting charge was only about 5lbs, I'd expect the British 8 inch to have even less.

In short, those 11 inch guns are way more destructive than any 6 or 8 inch cruiser weapon

[ToonandBBfan]

@Ahernar1

Ran out of space, sorry.

The 11 inch guns was more accurate at long range than the 8 inch and way way more accurate than the 6 inch.

Whilst the 11 inch is a pea-shooter to battleships, in the world of cruisers its like a charging Rhino!! - its a beast.

[Ahernar1]

Yes ,in a one vs one with a heavy cruiser the Deutschlands have the upper edge , but with a sea full of british cruisers the much higher speed of the Hipper's ensured a greater survivability . In the first part of the war the commerce raiding was possible , and DS were better at it (because of the fuel consumption ) , but on the last part of the war i rather be in a faster ship .

About the turrets , i played FS River Plate myself and it's not uncommon to lose a turret from a 6"gun

[ToonandBBfan]

I stand corrected, the bursting charge on the British SAP 8 inch shell was a staggering 11.5 lbs!!!!

[MattesWhv]

What Programm is it? Can i download or buy?

[soylentred]

Yeah it's a battlecruiser or heavy cruiser.

[007cbj]

heavy cruisers can only have 8in guns graf spee has 11in guns

[007cbj]

graf spee is a pocket battleship

[f3hdemon]

Pocket battleship is just a nickname not a ship class technically the Graf Spee is a battlecruiser, it's main amourment and armour protection puts it in that class.