@RidleyReport - at 2:18 - corporations could still exist in an "anarcho"-capitalist system. They'd just take a different form and would most likely recreate the state. The real root of the problem is the capitalist system which emphasizes profit. Even in a totally free market, businesses would still be playing dirty tactics in order to beat the competition and establish monopolies.
Personally, I believe we do need a federal government for one reason and one reason only, to ensure that the states don't deny it's citizens rights guaranteed in the constitution.
As a citizen of NY State, my biggest wish is that the fed would step in and FORCE state leaders to restore gun ownership rights to those of us that live in NY. I don't see it happening any time soon, but in theory, that's what the fed SHOULD be doing. That and nothing else.
well you seem half my age especially the way that you view politics and the fact that for no reason you think you know what i'm thinking. so..................
if you're so smart, why don't you explain exactly how you ''busted my ass'' the last time i gave you this opportunity you dodged it so now tell me exactly what i'm so wrong about and make sure you don't make somwething up that i never said, i'm waiting. & see if you can do it w/ out calling me names.
I view politics realistically. I think libertarians are idealistic dreamers that ask for a political system that is just as prone to failure as communism. The two people in this video have a more firm grasp on reality.
"fact that for no reason you think you know what i'm thinking."
You agreed with what Ridley said in his video, so it is safe to assume that you share the political beliefs that he stated in the video. I'm only going off what you said.
@homeagent "why don't you explain exactly how you ''busted my ass'' the last time i gave you this opportunity you dodged"
You're the one that's been doing the dodging. So far, you tried to say that Libertarianism doesn't lead to anarchy, yet you have provided no examples of where that concept has actually WORKED in the world. You deny that I called you out for your naive political views, despite the fact that I actually did. Then you went on a tissy fit from not having anything to say.
@homeagent Oh, and then you tried to, laughably, bully me off of responding to you when I told you what your only viable option if you wish to stop talking, which is for you to simply stop talking.
Oh, and then there's your failure of an attempt to end the conversation because you didn't understand how the blocking system here works despite the fact that you've been on YT for almost three years. I got a good laugh out of that one.
@homeagent "you think the federal reserve is a good thing?"
I think the 'Federal Reserve' is controlled by private banks. *GASP* I'm right!
Also, the people in the video were arguing for federal government and regulation and NOT for the Federal Reserve. They didn't even mention the Federal Reserve.
@sc0pl355 if you know that the fed is a private bank but you have no opinion on that then you are an idiot. and remember i never wanted to debate you and i'm not trying to impress you. you r just some guy who insulted me and that's where all this shit between us started. You started it but you don't get to end it so fuck off troll
@sc0pl355 well, i just went back through the comments and NOPE you started the name calling AND i saw you replying to others and calling them names too. & i know the vid is ,, as you screamed; ''NOT ABOUT THE FEDeral re.............'' i never said it was and there you go again puting words in my mouth. now go back 2 watching cartoons and let the grown ups talk., TROLL.
@homeagent Oh, and look at you, repeating your first insult from when YOU insulted me and started up with me. Funny. You should stop being so buthurt and learn something about how to debate shit, chump.
@sc0pl355 you calling others names as well has nothing to do w/ me.... you're right about that. it does have a lot to do w/ you however. you called me names+ you called others names=You are the common denominator in that equation. meening you are a name caller and there is documented proof of that right here on this comment board so shut the fuck up w/ your accusations, TROLL.!! put quotations around THAT & send it back 2 me you little child.
1) You're getting your panties in a twist over some words, which is funny.
2) So what? I call people what I call them! Big fucking deal! You should be happy that I'm exercising my freedom of speech. Your should be giving me a fucking parade for even gracing you with my words. Instead, you're acting like that kindergarten kid that wants to taddle because I said a bad word. Ooooooo, scary.
3) this may shock you, but when you insult me, then you best expect to get insulted BACK!
and btw, when i read your comments i picture a fat teen w/ no social life and nothing to do but sit on youtube and express his anger towards the world for not having any friends. how close am i?
You're way off bro. But nice try at fishing for insults. Simply put, I just don't give a fuck about how you feel when I talk to you. I have plenty of friends and a Life. I'm also not a teenager. That would be evident if you ever bothered to listen to my voice. But I guess you lack the intelligence to do even that.
Also, I have been VERY nice to you so far. If you think this is me being mean, then your powdered ass has never faced real conflict, ever.
Fed supporters are emotionally wedded to the idea of nationalism. They cannot disown their devoution to it no more than they can to their parents or their god. They have to lose faith, on their own, first before they can be open to alternatives.
This was how it worked for me. I lost faith in the government's minions first. I found liberty as an alternative to central power second.
BP would put false data or mathmatical figures on their polution report. Republican gov would wave fees and BP puts toxic shit in the air. The point is I like Ron Paul to but you have to have some gov. otherwise you have no law. Private Companies can cause nuclear disasters and kill millions so focus on the trillion DOD military spending and war business .
Dave your dream will of no fed will never happen until financial fall. Note GE is the reason we have Nuclear power plant on a fault line see Japen likes your limited gov. but this is what happens. I worked as Air polution tech for state of alaska BP liked on their reports all time put Particle Matter and Sulfar Iron Mg Ni on and into your the local tribes are and the rest state. Without me catching their lies or State Gov. Say stop you have Oil Spill in Gulf Oh this gov fault to.
April 7, A.M. - Manchester, NH police are allegedly moving against a liberty activist there. It sounds like they're not being allowed into a house. Dispute resolution expert Mike Ruff is requesting the presence of other liberty activists at the scene.
The 30 years of relative prosperity in after WWII had nothing to do with governmental regulations - All of our main competitors were destroyed! There was not a substantial economic infrastructure in any of these countries to compete with the U.S. market.
So he's against enterprise, against competition, against individual pursuits. Socialism has a bad name, we apparently aren't socialist enough for him. Tax is good, spending money on what you want to spend it on is evil. Yeah. got it.
@promontorium yeah, gee, it sure sucks having paved roads, clean water, a police force, a fire department and so on. Gee, let's go with that winning Zimbabwe strategy.
@sc0pl355 Wow, none of these services can be provided without a violent monopoly? Don't mix up government opposition with opposing roads, clean water, etc.
@RadiantMirage There's no violent monopoly involved in making roads or providing, clean water, a police department or fire department.
What you lunatics want is to privatize all that stuff so every road is a toll road, the police only serve *some* people, fire departments let people's houses burn down and only some people get to have clean water. Despicable.
Pay your rent or mortgage, see what happens to you.
Pay for the food that you eat, see what happens to you.
Pay for the gas that you put in your car, see what happens to you.
Dumbass, if you don't want to pay your share of this civilized country, then leave. The founding fathers collected taxes. They fought over taxation without representation. You have representation, so quit your bitching.
I dare you to come over here and make me leave. Mortgage, food, and gas are bought with voluntary consensus. I have to agree to those prices before I'd pay for them. Taxes are involuntary enforceable with the threat of force. Any thugs can take your wealth with baseball bat What's civilized about that?
@flynn2008 "Mortgage, food, and gas are bought with voluntary consensus. "
I'm PRETTY SURE that living in the US of A is voluntary too. If you don't like living here and contributing, then you can take your happy ass out of our country. Problem Solved.
" Taxes are involuntary enforceable with the threat of force."
So is, say, not shooting someone in the head or stealing someone's car or a variety of other crimes. Also, I like how you try to say they use violence when they don't.
Government is the big baseball bat that corporations use to hit people like these over the head every day. They're arguing for the baseball bat. Sad...
He's actually right about the Koch bro's, and as long as we have this type of government, we need to regulate the corporations. and as long as there is a government, there will never be a true "free market". Also, i'm sure the state paid for the bridge through state tax, not through the illegal federal tax that is funding the American war machine
On a more serious note, how can they say that the "Strong Central Government" can actually do a better job than the localized government in NH? Thats like saying the NH legislature is too inept to tax and build roads, but those in the District of Criminals are qualified?
In other words, these folks are "Constitutionalists"....just like Ron Paul, except...they ain't trying to sell it to you, but Paul is. They just want what they signed up for....big deal. It's a free country, after all. They can have what they want, they just can't make me have it too, by law. These folk are trying to clean out the system, instead of getting rid of it, and replacing it with REAL communism most of these anarchist squabs hawk as "grand". Propaganda Art of War 101. It's free....
This guy is anti-corporation, but the Corporations would not exist without the Government. There's not difference between socialism and a strong Central Government. Interventionism is Socialism.
agreed, watching this IS unbearable, these folks are totally clueless, post WW2 wealth was due to regulation that was "lacking" in the 2008 crisis? WTF are they talking about!!!!!!!!!!!
@duanescot Post WW2 wealth was partially due to regulations that were LACKING prior to the great depression. 2008 is a recurrence of the great depression, which was caused by rampant deregulation in the years leading up to 2008. That's what he's talking about. But you libratards don't want to understand that. Too little regulation is just as bad as too much. Even worse, come to think about it.
@sc0pl355 I think your confused, Id gouge my own eyes out with a spoon before I'd ever be a progressive libtard, all Im saying is that the big government shills protesting in the video have their heads jammed up their own asses in thinking that the government is the solution to a government problem, not sure why you think im supporting them, im NOT
@duanescot Do you want to see how the free market behaves without federal regulation? Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair.
Corporations are motivated by pure profit. Not that this is a bad thing, they have to in order to survive. But we have to have ground rules in place such that we know are food is safe, our workers aren't exploited, etc.
I do agree that the feds overstep there bounds often. But that's no reason to completely do away with EVERY federal service, that's just mental.
@stratelite no I agree with that, there are always going to be some level of rules, but I think we both can honestly say that as a nation, we left such a common sense, minimalist approach decades ago, and when I say those fundamentals were left behind, I mean that in the sense that a deep space probe leaves earth :)
These people are rank idiots. Who the hell is KOCH? Why aren't they worried about SOROS who is a BIG threat to our sovereignty and our freedom and who is coming here on April 8-11. Please see our website for details on the protest! WHERE ARE THEY ARE ON SOROS??? He runs the white house for cryin' out loud Soros funds THOUSANDS of 'grassroots' phonies. HE DOESN"T CARE THO.
When he said "last time we had nullification we ended up with a civil war" you should have asked who was nullifying the south or the north?
If he got it right you could follow up with "do you feel the north should have returned the escaped slaves?"If you could say it in a non-accusatory fashion
A seven minute conversation can't compete with 12 years of indoctrination at a government school, but if that seven minute conversation has already poked holes in the authority of the state then it goes to show you how weak the state is.
The difference between corporate funded organizations and government funded organizations is that you can choose not to support the corporations, you can't choose not to support the government, financially that is.
No one generally likes authority. I think these protesters were much more motivated by their anger over what they perceive to be the Koch-backed takeover of NH more than a wish for "big government".
I wish the FSP would be more honest about where their movement is getting funding and support from.
@juliaisafilmbuff123 The FSP GETS NO FUNDING from anyone! Koch has nothing whatsoever to do with NH, the tea party or anything else! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
Pro Fed and "protesters" is a contradiction in term, isn't it ? Are they confused ? These "Pro Fed" monkeys must have ALLOT of money invested with the Fed? The ONLY institution permitted by the Constitution to coin money for the U.S. is the U.S. Federal Treasury. Father time's a MORON, period !
@sc0pl355 wait... which system are you talking about? the current one or one w/ out the fed? and BTW, the name calling doesn't make you sound smart, just sayin.
@homeagent Your approach leads to anarchy. It is JUST AS BAD as communism in the sense that it is woefully naive when it comes to human nature. If you want to stop talking, then YOU stop talking. There's your freedom of choice right there.
@sc0pl355 thanks 4 the info on blocking, i was wondering about that... now,... You know nothing of MY political concept, i have said nothing of that... you are judging me for having watched and commented on this video. and because you continue to do so and add insult, that makes you a troll. so grow up and figure that out and stop bothering me.
@homeagent "You know nothing of MY political concept,"
I know what I responded to. You agree with what the camera man was saying to the people. I agree with the people and think that they just let him ramble on with his nonsense.
@sc0pl355 i knew you were going to say that. you're just a predictable little fucker looking for holes in my comments, typical TROLL !! now fuck off and stop trying to get the last word, you insulting little child. TROLL !! !! !!
@sc0pl355 YOU ARE A TROLL PLAIN AND SYMPLE. TROLL. this last one is, again, classic troll. name calling + insisting on the final word is classic troll, i've explained that 2 U already and you still persist on your stupid trollism, TROLL !! stupid fat little junk food eating soda drinking flouride headed TROLL !! i'll carry this into next month even next year and i'll make a fool out of you every time like i have allready. if you think you've made an impression on anyone here, u r dilusional,
@sc0pl355 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha HA!!!, ''the overwhelming logic of my c HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA that's hilarious dude!! can't wait to see what you say next HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... and look at the continued troll ism ; trying to get me ''bent out of shape'' more typical troll ism... just supporting my point AND making me laugh. you're so stupid. see ya tomoro, TROLL.
@sc0pl355 HA, ''son'' yer half my age, punk. do your parents know you're on the internet? just go back to your incredible hulk cartoons. HA HA HA HA HA
@homeagent So, now you're 70 years old? I mean, I'm 35. So if you're twice my age, that means... 35 x 2 = 70
Somehow, I find that hard to believe, with all your butthurt laughing while getting MAD over the internet and repeated accusations of me being a troll because I keep busting your ass. Then again, you do seem REALLY out of touch. lol
Here's a little secret: even if I were a troll, which I'm not, that still wouldn't degrade the fact that I'm right about you.
@sc0pl355 ...continued; and telling me that you won't stop unless i give you the last word ex; '' If you want to stop talking, then YOU stop talking. There's your freedom of choice right there'' and '' if you can't take it, then you can go away.'' that is classic troll !!
@sc0pl355 BUZZZZZZZZZZ WRONG ANSWER. Before 1913 there was no income tax.
BUZZZZ again,,,Look at the film Patriot,,,THAT IS A PATRIOT! He didnt want to fight, but when they took from him by force, his farm and family,,he then FOUGHT FOR LIBERTY!
You sir,,need to move to North Korea,,I hear it's a nice place for people who HATE FREEDOM!!!
THAT is a movie, for starters. Secondly, that movie had nothing to do with taxes. Mel Gibson's character was fighting for revenge because his son was executed by the british. Anyone executed over taxes? Nope.
@sc0pl355 BUZZZZZZZZ for name calling,,When You intellectual get smashed,,first thing to do is call some one a name,,communist tactic.
BUZZZZZZZ....No personal income tax until the Fed was Established 1913 and 16th amendment. Look it up
BUZZZZZZZ READ THE BOOK, in the book it clearly states he fought so that his children could live FREE.
BUZZZZZZZ You don't know what liberty is, because if you did,,we would agree on many things. I know from reading Jefferson, that I am with him are you?
1) You talk crap about me calling you guys names, then you call me a communist. How ironic.
2) The first income tax was in 1861. Look it up.
3) The book that I read said that the guy that the movie was based on was a rapist and a slave-owner that also slaughtered red indians. That's why they CHANGED HIS NAME for the movie.
4) You say that I don't know what liberty is because I don't agree with you? That just proves that you're full of shit, dumbass.
What is Liberty to you? And then I will give you my definition, and then we will look at Thomas Jefferson's Definition and we will see who is closer....
Remember TJ? He was a FOUNDING FATHER,,HE MADE A GOVERNMENT WITH A SPECIFIC FUNCTION.
Do you even know what that function is? If co, do tell....
@sc0pl355 Read this real closely and see if you can figure it out...
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
Thomas Jefferson
If individual can't stop you from doing something,,,Government cant. If he can,,then government can.
@AngriestAmerican "I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.""
The law is written by the people we all voted for, dingus. If you don't like the law, then vote for someone else. if you lose, then live with the fact that more of your fellow countrymen prefer it the other way.
What you want is special treatment where you write your own laws. That is unrealistic.
@sc0pl355 BUZZZZZZZ again,,you suck at this game,,,
We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, not a democracy. I know they would like to let you think we are a dem, but NO The founding fathers wanted a REPUBLIC, bound by a constitution and formed for mutual protection. An attack on one state, is an attack on all.
The INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS are more important than the whole.
So if the consensus is the people need your land,,they can just take it?
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
Like I said. If you don't like the laws, then vote for someone else.
"The INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS are more important than the whole."
Look, jackass. We elect representatives because everybody has a different idea of what should be right or wrong. Your way is anarchy.
@sc0pl355 That's right,,I AM THE SUPREME POWER. And IF I CAN'T TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING OR BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY,,GOVERNMENT CAN'T. The only way they can IS BY FORCE. For instance,,can I come to your house on pay day and take my cut? NO. But,,the Government can send the IRS Thugs to put you in jail,,
My way is called LIBERTY,,,get used to it because people are swaying more and more to it. Realizing that they get their freedom from their creator,,not government..
@AngriestAmerican "IF I CAN'T TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING OR BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY,,GOVERNMENT CAN'T"
You can't tell me what to do because you don't have a way to make me comply if i say no. You can't arrest me for contempt, you can't seize my property, you can't imprison me or put me on trial. The government has a way to MAKE people comply with the law.
@sc0pl355 No? I cant? Come to my house and try to take some stuff,,I can stop you,,so,,the government has the authority to stop people from stealing..
Can I pollute your water? NO,,so the Government can stop me,,
Can I tell you not to smoke? No,,so the Government CAN'T
Can I tell you not to smoke pot? NO, so the Government can't
Can I stop you from driving with no seatbelt on? NO,,so the government can't
The Government is the PEOPLE,so what PEOPLE CAN OR CAN'T do,the Government can or cant
"can I come to your house on pay day and take my cut?"
Dumbass. You're not doing anything for me to warrant that I pay you a dime. I used to work at a store in an airport. The STORE paid the AIRPORT AUTHORITY a cut of their profits because the airport authority provided a place for them to set up their store, among other services.
@AngriestAmerican Being an american citizen means that you CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY. Someone has to pay for the benefits that comes with being an american. If you don't like it, then MOVE TO THE REPUBLIC OF ZIMBABWE or the REPUBLIC OF CONGO and quit your bitchin.
We all pay for the clean water, clean air, public safety and international authority that we americans enjoy. If you don't want those things, then fucking leave.
@sc0pl355 CONTRIBUTE?????WHO THE HELL MADE YOU MY MORAL MENTOR? ARE YOU A NUT OR WHAT? YOU GIVE YOUR STUFF UP SO I CAN LIVE BETTER!!! HOW DO YOU LIKE IT???
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY MONEY! ARE YOU SOME KIND OF DAMN CONTROL FREAK!
YOU CONTRIBUTE ALL YOUR MONEY! YOU GO FIGHT WARS! YOU GO VOLUNTEER !! YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU....DON"T TELL ME TO DO ANYTHING EVER AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU CAN TYPE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?
IF you want the priviledges of being an American, then you must contribute. IF you don't want that, then leave. I'm not being a moral mentor, I'm telling you the only two logical options. Yopu can't expect to have all the priviledges and protections of being an American citizen without contributing, you child.
1) It's not your money. It is a voucher that only has value because WE THE PEOPLE agree that it has value. It has NO INTRINSIC VALUE beyond that.
2) Look, if you don't want to contribute, then just leave, you worthless slug. Move to Zimbabwe and live with the gun-toting savages. Experience life that's exactly the way you say it should be.
@AngriestAmerican "YOU CONTRIBUTE ALL YOUR MONEY! YOU GO FIGHT WARS! YOU GO VOLUNTEER !!"
1) Nobody asked for all your money, dude. You should pay your fair share. I pay my fair share, so you should too. If you don't want to, then leave. We don't need your deadbeat ass draining our nation.
2) There's no longer a draft. NOBODY is forcing you to volunteer for anything.
"DON"T TELL ME TO DO ANYTHING EVER AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU CAN TYPE."
I'll say what I want to say. Stop being a useless sack.
@sc0pl355 THEY TAKE 55% of my earnings!!!! 55% 55% 55% 55% 55% 55%
FIFTY FIVE PERCENT..of what I make,,,goes to taxes. They arent asking me for my money? ARE YOU ON CRACK? they arent asking,,you are right,,THEY ARE TAKING BY FORCE.
Dude you are a moron, you are why this country is in the toilet. If I didnt have to pay 55% I could hire like 7 more people to work for me,,,you moron,,what a clown
Just think if 2 million business hired 7 people each,,,hey guess what,,better economy,,
No, your way is called being a petulant child that wants to bitch about the fact that he has to pay his share into society, but doesn't have the balls to do anything about it other than whine like a little girl.
But hey, if you chumps feel so strongly about this, then fucking leave. Tell you what, why don't you ladies just go to NH and vote to leave the union. Then you are free to do whatever you want. But don't expect any help from us.
@AngriestAmerican I'm not on welfare, you slug. I always pay my way.
"Government Job? or anything provided by government?"
No and NO. The government doesn't do anything special for me that they don't do for YOU. The difference is that I understand that my taxes pay for a lot of things that keep this nation relatively safe, free and pleasant to live in with worldwide influence and prestige.
@sc0pl355 "The difference is that I understand that my taxes pay for a lot of things that keep this nation relatively safe, free and pleasant to live in with worldwide influence and prestige."
Free? HAHA,,yes,,i like being free to have my ass grabbed at an airport..
Pleasant? Dude come to providence, nothing but potholes and cops writing tickets,,real pleasent..
Influence,,ya in the form of 500 Lbs of TNT in a missle..
Prestige,,haha,,we cant beat 100 taliban with 150k troops in afganistan,LOL
@AngriestAmerican "yes,,i like being free to have my ass grabbed at an airport.."
You're free to NOT fly if you don't like being frisked. That's like coming to my house and bitching because I tell you to check your coat. IT'S MY HOUSE! YOU WILL RESPECT MY RULES! Same goes for the airprot. Their airport, their rules. Don't like it? Don't fly.
And? Airports can legally opt-out of using the TSA, jackass.
"Can the FED force you to frisk people who come into your house?"
Stop saying FED, dummy. The FED is a private bank. Also, the Federal Government doesn't force airports to use the TSA or screeners. They can legally opt-out.
@sc0pl355 "Violence solves lots of problems. If anyone disagrees, then let's see what mr baseball bat across the kneecaps has to say to change their mind"
Dude,,,you are losing it man,,,I have never ever ever in my life, come to a point where I had to even use violence.
I guess you like unions then because my father was in one and he loved to kick the crap out of non-union guys who crossed the picket,,
I am sure my father is getting a lesson from God now, on why this was wrong,,
@AngriestAmerican "And I left the military, when they had form questionnaires passed out to us, and one of the Questions on that form was,,
"Would you fire on American Citizens if ordered too?""
That's a big grey area question that would depend on the circumstances and whether or not the order were legal or not. If my superior ordered me to do that, I would need to know the reason before I can accept that order.
@sc0pl355 HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You are truly misled,,,, I wouldn't even need to ask...
In fact, a whole argument started because I said it was a bullsh*t question, and my platoon Sgt said, the answer is easy, you follow orders, my reply was,,well,,what if your son was in the crowd? Don't worry, I said,,you don't have to,,I will shoot at him,,then,,,bam i was pushed into the lockers...haha,,its ok,,when the order is given to shoot some one else's son I guess,,,
@AngriestAmerican "I am sure my father is getting a lesson from God now, on why this was wrong,,"
Hmm, have you ever READ the bible? God had no problem with Rape, Murder, Incest, forced marriages, group sex and so on, but he has as problem with your father putting some scabs in their place so he can put food in your ungrateful mouth? LOL
@sc0pl355 Dude,,SLUG? I am a fukin architect,,with a 135 IQ. I design structures that would make Da Vinci scratch his head in amazement. I served 9 years in the Army Infantry, how many did you serve? I scored a 99/1 on the ASVAB test, my recruiter said,,you got 6 answers wrong,,on 350 questions, you are General Material.
All my clients pay from their hard earned savings,,I DONT DO ANY GOVERNMENT WORK AT ALL.
Yeas, SLUG. You don't want to contribute anything to this nation. You only want to take. So you're a SLUG. I don't give two fucks about what you do for a living. You may as well be living in Mexico or Canada as far as I'm concerned.
"with a 135 IQ"
First off, my IQ is higher than that. Secondly, an IQ score doesn't count for anything in a debate. That'd be like me bragging about my dick size. Maybe if you had about 20 more points, you'd know that.
@sc0pl355 And arguing that you are more American, and more patriotic than I am,,is like arguing you are better in bed than I am,, IT MOST LIKELY ISN'T TRUE.
How many years in the Armed forces you have? Hmmmm?
If being "Patriotic" is contributing, contribute all of what you make,,then, you could easily win this debate...
@AngriestAmerican "And arguing that you are more American, and more patriotic than I am,,is like arguing you are better in bed than I am,, IT MOST LIKELY ISN'T TRUE."
1) I'm American enough to either contribute or leave. That's more than a useless slug, like you, is willing to do for this country.
2) You don't know anything about me or my sexlife. but judging from how sensitive you are on the matter, I'm willing to bet that you don't lay pipe, bro.
@sc0pl355 "I'm American enough to either contribute or leave" You are the Furthest from what the FOUNDERS, yes the people who MADE this country,, wanted us to be...
You are the scourge of the country, bringing it down, by forcing productive people to pay for UNPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE.
In the end,,I pay taxes, so people can have jobs in the government, who might not be able to keep a job, doing what I do. I pay taxes to subsidize government jobs,,end of story,,,
@AngriestAmerican "You are the Furthest from what the FOUNDERS, yes the people who MADE this country,, wanted us to be..."
One of the first things the founders did after winning the revolutionary war was COLLECT TAXES. The fucking constitution even talks about collecting taxes! They fought over taxation WITHOUT representation! You have representation, so quit your bitching.
@RidleyReport - at 2:18 - corporations could still exist in an "anarcho"-capitalist system. They'd just take a different form and would most likely recreate the state. The real root of the problem is the capitalist system which emphasizes profit. Even in a totally free market, businesses would still be playing dirty tactics in order to beat the competition and establish monopolies.
juliaisafilmbuff123 9 months ago
Personally, I believe we do need a federal government for one reason and one reason only, to ensure that the states don't deny it's citizens rights guaranteed in the constitution.
As a citizen of NY State, my biggest wish is that the fed would step in and FORCE state leaders to restore gun ownership rights to those of us that live in NY. I don't see it happening any time soon, but in theory, that's what the fed SHOULD be doing. That and nothing else.
Signed, a slave to NY stupidity.
temporaryscars 10 months ago
well you seem half my age especially the way that you view politics and the fact that for no reason you think you know what i'm thinking. so..................
if you're so smart, why don't you explain exactly how you ''busted my ass'' the last time i gave you this opportunity you dodged it so now tell me exactly what i'm so wrong about and make sure you don't make somwething up that i never said, i'm waiting. & see if you can do it w/ out calling me names.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent "the way that you view politics"
I view politics realistically. I think libertarians are idealistic dreamers that ask for a political system that is just as prone to failure as communism. The two people in this video have a more firm grasp on reality.
"fact that for no reason you think you know what i'm thinking."
You agreed with what Ridley said in his video, so it is safe to assume that you share the political beliefs that he stated in the video. I'm only going off what you said.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@homeagent "why don't you explain exactly how you ''busted my ass'' the last time i gave you this opportunity you dodged"
You're the one that's been doing the dodging. So far, you tried to say that Libertarianism doesn't lead to anarchy, yet you have provided no examples of where that concept has actually WORKED in the world. You deny that I called you out for your naive political views, despite the fact that I actually did. Then you went on a tissy fit from not having anything to say.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@homeagent Oh, and then you tried to, laughably, bully me off of responding to you when I told you what your only viable option if you wish to stop talking, which is for you to simply stop talking.
Oh, and then there's your failure of an attempt to end the conversation because you didn't understand how the blocking system here works despite the fact that you've been on YT for almost three years. I got a good laugh out of that one.
List goes on and on...
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 ok, are you done now? did you get it out of your system enough to go away? TROLL?
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent I'm not going anywhere, chump. You can take your chewbacca defense someplace else.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 you think the federal reserve is a good thing? don't you know ohow they work?
homeagent 11 months ago
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@homeagent "you think the federal reserve is a good thing?"
I think the 'Federal Reserve' is controlled by private banks. *GASP* I'm right!
Also, the people in the video were arguing for federal government and regulation and NOT for the Federal Reserve. They didn't even mention the Federal Reserve.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@homeagent
1) The federal reserve is a private bank. Also, I don't have an opinion on it either way beyond that.
2) The video has NOTHING to do with the federal reserve. They are arguing over regulation, taxes, the koch brothers and public works.
3) Have any other red herrings?
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 you're an idiot!
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent Is that all you got? Look at you, acting like a petulant child because I know what I'm talking about and actually watched the video.
Me= facts
you= nothing
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 if you know that the fed is a private bank but you have no opinion on that then you are an idiot. and remember i never wanted to debate you and i'm not trying to impress you. you r just some guy who insulted me and that's where all this shit between us started. You started it but you don't get to end it so fuck off troll
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent I don't have an opinion on the color of the sky or the sound of a dog's bark either, jackass.
"i never wanted to debate you and i'm not trying to impress you."
Yeah, that's totally why you brought up a red herring subject like the federal reserve when the video is NOT ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
"You started it but you don't get to end it"
Actually, you started it by insulting ME first, jackass.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 well, i just went back through the comments and NOPE you started the name calling AND i saw you replying to others and calling them names too. & i know the vid is ,, as you screamed; ''NOT ABOUT THE FEDeral re.............'' i never said it was and there you go again puting words in my mouth. now go back 2 watching cartoons and let the grown ups talk., TROLL.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent "i just went back through the comments and NOPE you started the name calling AND i saw you replying to others and calling them names too."
I called YOU a name after YOU insulted me, dumbass. Whether I call someone else a name OR NOT has nothing to do with you.
"i never said it was and there you go again puting words in my mouth"
1) I am talking about what's going on in the video. YOU asked me about what I thought about the federal reserve. That's you going way off subject.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@homeagent Oh, and look at you, repeating your first insult from when YOU insulted me and started up with me. Funny. You should stop being so buthurt and learn something about how to debate shit, chump.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 you calling others names as well has nothing to do w/ me.... you're right about that. it does have a lot to do w/ you however. you called me names+ you called others names=You are the common denominator in that equation. meening you are a name caller and there is documented proof of that right here on this comment board so shut the fuck up w/ your accusations, TROLL.!! put quotations around THAT & send it back 2 me you little child.
homeagent 11 months ago
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@homeagent "you called me names+ you called others names"
Look at you, getting your panties in a twist.
"meening you are a name caller "
And? You Libratards should be happy that I'm exercising my freedom of speech. You should be throwing me a fucking parade.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@homeagent
1) You're getting your panties in a twist over some words, which is funny.
2) So what? I call people what I call them! Big fucking deal! You should be happy that I'm exercising my freedom of speech. Your should be giving me a fucking parade for even gracing you with my words. Instead, you're acting like that kindergarten kid that wants to taddle because I said a bad word. Ooooooo, scary.
3) this may shock you, but when you insult me, then you best expect to get insulted BACK!
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 1) you're a troll
2) shut the fuck up
3) go away
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent 1) No, I'm not
2) Make me
3) Make me
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 go away, troll.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent Make me, douche.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
and btw, when i read your comments i picture a fat teen w/ no social life and nothing to do but sit on youtube and express his anger towards the world for not having any friends. how close am i?
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent "how close am i?"
You're way off bro. But nice try at fishing for insults. Simply put, I just don't give a fuck about how you feel when I talk to you. I have plenty of friends and a Life. I'm also not a teenager. That would be evident if you ever bothered to listen to my voice. But I guess you lack the intelligence to do even that.
Also, I have been VERY nice to you so far. If you think this is me being mean, then your powdered ass has never faced real conflict, ever.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
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@sc0pl355 you think the federal reserve is a good thing? don't you know how they work?
homeagent 11 months ago
Oh, BTW, in case you dunces didn't know, the FED is a private bank!
If you guys actually did any research instead of spewing unrealistic claptrap, you'd know that.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
Tom isn't out defending principals, he's out defending his WALLET. (union worker is he who wants govt to keep his wages up while other get paid less)
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 11 months ago
Tom looks like another typical ridiculous 60s hippy frozen in time along with his progressive political views. (note pony tail)
SmokeRingsPipeDreams 11 months ago
Ridley just owns people in the politist way possible
jetmanengland20 11 months ago
These poor people think they're "a long way from socialism". They're about one millimeter away from a communist jack-boot on their necks.
1776Matthew 11 months ago
Fed supporters are emotionally wedded to the idea of nationalism. They cannot disown their devoution to it no more than they can to their parents or their god. They have to lose faith, on their own, first before they can be open to alternatives.
This was how it worked for me. I lost faith in the government's minions first. I found liberty as an alternative to central power second.
Helionaeic 11 months ago
BP would put false data or mathmatical figures on their polution report. Republican gov would wave fees and BP puts toxic shit in the air. The point is I like Ron Paul to but you have to have some gov. otherwise you have no law. Private Companies can cause nuclear disasters and kill millions so focus on the trillion DOD military spending and war business .
silverton7777 11 months ago
Dave your dream will of no fed will never happen until financial fall. Note GE is the reason we have Nuclear power plant on a fault line see Japen likes your limited gov. but this is what happens. I worked as Air polution tech for state of alaska BP liked on their reports all time put Particle Matter and Sulfar Iron Mg Ni on and into your the local tribes are and the rest state. Without me catching their lies or State Gov. Say stop you have Oil Spill in Gulf Oh this gov fault to.
silverton7777 11 months ago
i wouldda told the guy that probably 10 percent of his taxes go to services, and the other 90 percent is blow on garbage
WONDOCTORJ 11 months ago
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!
The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE BANK!!! >:O
God DAMIT! Just because it has 'federal' in the name, it MUST be a government thing, right??? Like FedEX???
sc0pl355 11 months ago
"The bottom dropped out of our economy"...and the very next sentence out of his mouth is "we have a system that appears to work"...
ekeyra 11 months ago
That was painful to watch. To have lived as long as they have lived and still be in the dark.
silentthriller 11 months ago
April 7, A.M. - Manchester, NH police are allegedly moving against a liberty activist there. It sounds like they're not being allowed into a house. Dispute resolution expert Mike Ruff is requesting the presence of other liberty activists at the scene.
See video descrip.
RidleyReport 11 months ago
Baaaah Baaah. Interviewing sheep is painful.
Aryaba 11 months ago 2
The 30 years of relative prosperity in after WWII had nothing to do with governmental regulations - All of our main competitors were destroyed! There was not a substantial economic infrastructure in any of these countries to compete with the U.S. market.
smfaces 11 months ago
in representing every one , no one is represented. localize everything down to the lowest possible denominator, the individual.
fourdoorchevelle 11 months ago
"Mommy!"
mcgrawtim123 11 months ago
They're against corporate money influencing government, but they support the foreign Federal Reserve Bank.
Thanks, Dave. I feel much smarter.
JesusDillinger 11 months ago
So he's against enterprise, against competition, against individual pursuits. Socialism has a bad name, we apparently aren't socialist enough for him. Tax is good, spending money on what you want to spend it on is evil. Yeah. got it.
promontorium 11 months ago
@promontorium yeah, gee, it sure sucks having paved roads, clean water, a police force, a fire department and so on. Gee, let's go with that winning Zimbabwe strategy.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 Wow, none of these services can be provided without a violent monopoly? Don't mix up government opposition with opposing roads, clean water, etc.
RadiantMirage 11 months ago
@RadiantMirage There's no violent monopoly involved in making roads or providing, clean water, a police department or fire department.
What you lunatics want is to privatize all that stuff so every road is a toll road, the police only serve *some* people, fire departments let people's houses burn down and only some people get to have clean water. Despicable.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355
If you don't pay taxes, see what happens to you.
flynn2008 11 months ago
@flynn2008 If you don't:
Pay your rent or mortgage, see what happens to you.
Pay for the food that you eat, see what happens to you.
Pay for the gas that you put in your car, see what happens to you.
Dumbass, if you don't want to pay your share of this civilized country, then leave. The founding fathers collected taxes. They fought over taxation without representation. You have representation, so quit your bitching.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355
I dare you to come over here and make me leave. Mortgage, food, and gas are bought with voluntary consensus. I have to agree to those prices before I'd pay for them. Taxes are involuntary enforceable with the threat of force. Any thugs can take your wealth with baseball bat What's civilized about that?
flynn2008 11 months ago
@flynn2008 "Mortgage, food, and gas are bought with voluntary consensus. "
I'm PRETTY SURE that living in the US of A is voluntary too. If you don't like living here and contributing, then you can take your happy ass out of our country. Problem Solved.
" Taxes are involuntary enforceable with the threat of force."
So is, say, not shooting someone in the head or stealing someone's car or a variety of other crimes. Also, I like how you try to say they use violence when they don't.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355
So the IRS is so great right?
flynn2008 11 months ago
Government is the big baseball bat that corporations use to hit people like these over the head every day. They're arguing for the baseball bat. Sad...
TreachMarkets 11 months ago 2
Doesn't this guy know about how state's rights was used to fight slavery?
greenghost2008 11 months ago
He's actually right about the Koch bro's, and as long as we have this type of government, we need to regulate the corporations. and as long as there is a government, there will never be a true "free market". Also, i'm sure the state paid for the bridge through state tax, not through the illegal federal tax that is funding the American war machine
pabyizzy 11 months ago
They need some serious learning. btw....the illegal IRS is the thug army for the UnFederal Re$erve.
Kitswain59 11 months ago
this guy sounds like youtube user "TeddyRubskin"
Wouldn't it be ironic, (I doubt it though)
On a more serious note, how can they say that the "Strong Central Government" can actually do a better job than the localized government in NH? Thats like saying the NH legislature is too inept to tax and build roads, but those in the District of Criminals are qualified?
I'd rather have a tooth pulled.
J
jdouglasfisher 11 months ago
In other words, these folks are "Constitutionalists"....just like Ron Paul, except...they ain't trying to sell it to you, but Paul is. They just want what they signed up for....big deal. It's a free country, after all. They can have what they want, they just can't make me have it too, by law. These folk are trying to clean out the system, instead of getting rid of it, and replacing it with REAL communism most of these anarchist squabs hawk as "grand". Propaganda Art of War 101. It's free....
TheCaptainSlappy 11 months ago
Wow... I guess there are Nazi's in every generation.
Communistic governmentalism alive and well in America!
Home of the FREE or wait no... Home of the brave! ohh wait innocent child killers in false not wars... hmm... what the hell is their to say?
NaturalGroundation 11 months ago
I wish I was funded by some big corporation to move to NH for the Freestateproject, wouldn't that be nice.
batmanthe 11 months ago
This guy is anti-corporation, but the Corporations would not exist without the Government. There's not difference between socialism and a strong Central Government. Interventionism is Socialism.
These two are simply out of touch with reality.
Joe11Blue 11 months ago
did he just call the federal government a higher authority? WOW
alita589 11 months ago
agreed, watching this IS unbearable, these folks are totally clueless, post WW2 wealth was due to regulation that was "lacking" in the 2008 crisis? WTF are they talking about!!!!!!!!!!!
duanescot 11 months ago
@duanescot Post WW2 wealth was partially due to regulations that were LACKING prior to the great depression. 2008 is a recurrence of the great depression, which was caused by rampant deregulation in the years leading up to 2008. That's what he's talking about. But you libratards don't want to understand that. Too little regulation is just as bad as too much. Even worse, come to think about it.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 I think your confused, Id gouge my own eyes out with a spoon before I'd ever be a progressive libtard, all Im saying is that the big government shills protesting in the video have their heads jammed up their own asses in thinking that the government is the solution to a government problem, not sure why you think im supporting them, im NOT
duanescot 11 months ago
@duanescot Isaid librAtard, not libtard.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 ah sorry, looked like you called me a libtard, one of the FEW things anyone can do to offend me :)
duanescot 11 months ago
@duanescot Do you want to see how the free market behaves without federal regulation? Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair.
Corporations are motivated by pure profit. Not that this is a bad thing, they have to in order to survive. But we have to have ground rules in place such that we know are food is safe, our workers aren't exploited, etc.
I do agree that the feds overstep there bounds often. But that's no reason to completely do away with EVERY federal service, that's just mental.
stratelite 11 months ago
@stratelite no I agree with that, there are always going to be some level of rules, but I think we both can honestly say that as a nation, we left such a common sense, minimalist approach decades ago, and when I say those fundamentals were left behind, I mean that in the sense that a deep space probe leaves earth :)
duanescot 11 months ago
I didn't know talking sheep can make signs.
flynn2008 11 months ago
More government = More bullshit
MrGottabefree 11 months ago
He has no freakin' clue about the 'fed' and who they are and the fact they are ILLEGAL. The FED RESERVE must be dissolved!
nhteaparty 11 months ago
These people are rank idiots. Who the hell is KOCH? Why aren't they worried about SOROS who is a BIG threat to our sovereignty and our freedom and who is coming here on April 8-11. Please see our website for details on the protest! WHERE ARE THEY ARE ON SOROS??? He runs the white house for cryin' out loud Soros funds THOUSANDS of 'grassroots' phonies. HE DOESN"T CARE THO.
nhteaparty 11 months ago
so weird....
DonSolo52 11 months ago
"After WW2 we had about 30 years of prosperity"
It seems he's completely forgotten "stagflation".
CurtHowland 11 months ago
I bet thoes people LOVE FOX News.
biorgymd 11 months ago
This guy is an idiot.
Why were you so easy on him ?
johnnycaboosehead 11 months ago
When he said "last time we had nullification we ended up with a civil war" you should have asked who was nullifying the south or the north?
If he got it right you could follow up with "do you feel the north should have returned the escaped slaves?"If you could say it in a non-accusatory fashion
Buffalo122333 11 months ago
A seven minute conversation can't compete with 12 years of indoctrination at a government school, but if that seven minute conversation has already poked holes in the authority of the state then it goes to show you how weak the state is.
twn5858 11 months ago
The difference between corporate funded organizations and government funded organizations is that you can choose not to support the corporations, you can't choose not to support the government, financially that is.
pigoutultra 11 months ago
No one generally likes authority. I think these protesters were much more motivated by their anger over what they perceive to be the Koch-backed takeover of NH more than a wish for "big government".
I wish the FSP would be more honest about where their movement is getting funding and support from.
juliaisafilmbuff123 11 months ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 The FSP GETS NO FUNDING from anyone! Koch has nothing whatsoever to do with NH, the tea party or anything else! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!
nhteaparty 11 months ago
@nhteaparty Jason Sorens, the FSP founder, is linked to Americans for Prosperity which is a Koch-funded group.
juliaisafilmbuff123 11 months ago
Watching this is unbearable
nhrevolutionist 11 months ago 16
@nhrevolutionist: I wonder how much they were paid? No one is that stupid.
LTS1287 11 months ago
Pro Fed and "protesters" is a contradiction in term, isn't it ? Are they confused ? These "Pro Fed" monkeys must have ALLOT of money invested with the Fed? The ONLY institution permitted by the Constitution to coin money for the U.S. is the U.S. Federal Treasury. Father time's a MORON, period !
TheDigitalWeb 11 months ago 7
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sc0pl355 11 months ago
good job Ridly !! I think you made an impression on them toward the end.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent No, they just decided to ignore him because he was talking stupidly.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 just go watch cartoons and let the grown ups talk.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent I think you mean 'Let the retards circle jerk because they believe in a political system that does not work.'
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 wait... which system are you talking about? the current one or one w/ out the fed? and BTW, the name calling doesn't make you sound smart, just sayin.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent The system that I'm talking about is the fantasy system where that you guys believe in that has no regulation or oversight.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 we don't believe in anarky. where did you here that? MSNBC? FOX? i don't want to fight w/ you . you are not my enimy, i am not your enimy
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent The RESULT of what you guys want is ultimately anarchy.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 if you think that then you are stupid. go away now, you bother me.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent Your approach leads to anarchy. It is JUST AS BAD as communism in the sense that it is woefully naive when it comes to human nature. If you want to stop talking, then YOU stop talking. There's your freedom of choice right there.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 you make no sense at all. go away you stupid troll. i thought i blocked you.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent Blocking me only stops me from posting on YOUR channel, dude. Only RidleyReport can block me from commenting here. Whoops.
Also, I'm not a troll. I'm expressing my opinion of your politicl concept. if you can't take it, then you can go away.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 thanks 4 the info on blocking, i was wondering about that... now,... You know nothing of MY political concept, i have said nothing of that... you are judging me for having watched and commented on this video. and because you continue to do so and add insult, that makes you a troll. so grow up and figure that out and stop bothering me.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent "You know nothing of MY political concept,"
I know what I responded to. You agree with what the camera man was saying to the people. I agree with the people and think that they just let him ramble on with his nonsense.
"stop bothering me."
You know where the door is, boyo.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 i knew you were going to say that. you're just a predictable little fucker looking for holes in my comments, typical TROLL !! now fuck off and stop trying to get the last word, you insulting little child. TROLL !! !! !!
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent You knew that I was going to say that, because it is true.
You want to end this conversation? You are free to leave anytime you want, nancy. Calling me a troll doesn't hurt my feelings.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 YOU ARE A TROLL PLAIN AND SYMPLE. TROLL. this last one is, again, classic troll. name calling + insisting on the final word is classic troll, i've explained that 2 U already and you still persist on your stupid trollism, TROLL !! stupid fat little junk food eating soda drinking flouride headed TROLL !! i'll carry this into next month even next year and i'll make a fool out of you every time like i have allready. if you think you've made an impression on anyone here, u r dilusional,
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent Hrm, you call me a troll when I point out the overwhelming logic of my conclusion.
Then you make a declaration that you have made a fool of me, which you didn't. Instead, you're just showing that I shook you. Like this gem.
"i'll carry this into next month even next year "
"if you think you've made an impression on anyone here"
Apparently, I've made an impression on you. Look at you, getting all bent out of shape because I busted your ass.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha HA!!!, ''the overwhelming logic of my c HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA that's hilarious dude!! can't wait to see what you say next HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... and look at the continued troll ism ; trying to get me ''bent out of shape'' more typical troll ism... just supporting my point AND making me laugh. you're so stupid. see ya tomoro, TROLL.
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent You're and embarrassment to yourself, son.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 HA, ''son'' yer half my age, punk. do your parents know you're on the internet? just go back to your incredible hulk cartoons. HA HA HA HA HA
homeagent 11 months ago
@homeagent So, now you're 70 years old? I mean, I'm 35. So if you're twice my age, that means... 35 x 2 = 70
Somehow, I find that hard to believe, with all your butthurt laughing while getting MAD over the internet and repeated accusations of me being a troll because I keep busting your ass. Then again, you do seem REALLY out of touch. lol
Here's a little secret: even if I were a troll, which I'm not, that still wouldn't degrade the fact that I'm right about you.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 ...continued; and telling me that you won't stop unless i give you the last word ex; '' If you want to stop talking, then YOU stop talking. There's your freedom of choice right there'' and '' if you can't take it, then you can go away.'' that is classic troll !!
homeagent 11 months ago
The bridge is paid from taxes on gas,,,,not income tax...
This guys is an idiot,,,,and his wife should be arrested for the crime of reproducing with him,,
He didn't like the Manning comment,,HAHAHAHA!!
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
They, the "Pro-Fed" protesters, must have been paid to make their stance. I personally do not know anyone who supports the Fed GovCo.
DJTmaq 11 months ago
Ridley next time some arse hat says he is a patriot,,ask him what it means to be a "Patriot"
The answer to that of course,,is some one who fights for freedom for his country,,,not some one who fights for the government,,,
Also we are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican
patriot |ˈpātrēət|
noun
1 a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.
2 ( Patriot) trademark an automated surface-to-air missile system designed for early detection and interception of missiles or aircraft.
• a missile deployed in this system.
You fools have no idea what a patriot is. The guy in this video IS a patriot. A functioning country needs to collect taxes to remain stable.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 BUZZZZZZZZZZ WRONG ANSWER. Before 1913 there was no income tax.
BUZZZZ again,,,Look at the film Patriot,,,THAT IS A PATRIOT! He didnt want to fight, but when they took from him by force, his farm and family,,he then FOUGHT FOR LIBERTY!
You sir,,need to move to North Korea,,I hear it's a nice place for people who HATE FREEDOM!!!
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "Before 1913 there was no income tax."
First income tax was in 1861, jackass.
"Look at the film Patriot,,,THAT IS A PATRIOT!"
THAT is a movie, for starters. Secondly, that movie had nothing to do with taxes. Mel Gibson's character was fighting for revenge because his son was executed by the british. Anyone executed over taxes? Nope.
"FOUGHT FOR LIBERTY!"
You fools don't know what liberty is.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 BUZZZZZZZZ for name calling,,When You intellectual get smashed,,first thing to do is call some one a name,,communist tactic.
BUZZZZZZZ....No personal income tax until the Fed was Established 1913 and 16th amendment. Look it up
BUZZZZZZZ READ THE BOOK, in the book it clearly states he fought so that his children could live FREE.
BUZZZZZZZ You don't know what liberty is, because if you did,,we would agree on many things. I know from reading Jefferson, that I am with him are you?
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican
1) You talk crap about me calling you guys names, then you call me a communist. How ironic.
2) The first income tax was in 1861. Look it up.
3) The book that I read said that the guy that the movie was based on was a rapist and a slave-owner that also slaughtered red indians. That's why they CHANGED HIS NAME for the movie.
4) You say that I don't know what liberty is because I don't agree with you? That just proves that you're full of shit, dumbass.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 so lets hear it,,
What is Liberty to you? And then I will give you my definition, and then we will look at Thomas Jefferson's Definition and we will see who is closer....
Remember TJ? He was a FOUNDING FATHER,,HE MADE A GOVERNMENT WITH A SPECIFIC FUNCTION.
Do you even know what that function is? If co, do tell....
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "What is Liberty to you?"
Liberties are rights or privileges. Not unrestrained political hedonism.
IF you don't like the rights and privileges that you have, then vote for someone else or leave.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 Read this real closely and see if you can figure it out...
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
Thomas Jefferson
If individual can't stop you from doing something,,,Government cant. If he can,,then government can.
Pretty simple....
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.""
The law is written by the people we all voted for, dingus. If you don't like the law, then vote for someone else. if you lose, then live with the fact that more of your fellow countrymen prefer it the other way.
What you want is special treatment where you write your own laws. That is unrealistic.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "If individual can't stop you from doing something,,,Government cant."
Laws are made by individuals that come to a consensus. If you don't like the laws, then vote for someone else or leave.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 BUZZZZZZZ again,,you suck at this game,,,
We are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, not a democracy. I know they would like to let you think we are a dem, but NO The founding fathers wanted a REPUBLIC, bound by a constitution and formed for mutual protection. An attack on one state, is an attack on all.
The INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS are more important than the whole.
So if the consensus is the people need your land,,they can just take it?
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican
republic |riˈpəblik|
noun
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
Like I said. If you don't like the laws, then vote for someone else.
"The INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS are more important than the whole."
Look, jackass. We elect representatives because everybody has a different idea of what should be right or wrong. Your way is anarchy.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 That's right,,I AM THE SUPREME POWER. And IF I CAN'T TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING OR BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY,,GOVERNMENT CAN'T. The only way they can IS BY FORCE. For instance,,can I come to your house on pay day and take my cut? NO. But,,the Government can send the IRS Thugs to put you in jail,,
My way is called LIBERTY,,,get used to it because people are swaying more and more to it. Realizing that they get their freedom from their creator,,not government..
I'm done with you,enjoy tyranny
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "IF I CAN'T TELL YOU TO DO SOMETHING OR BEHAVE A CERTAIN WAY,,GOVERNMENT CAN'T"
You can't tell me what to do because you don't have a way to make me comply if i say no. You can't arrest me for contempt, you can't seize my property, you can't imprison me or put me on trial. The government has a way to MAKE people comply with the law.
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sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 No? I cant? Come to my house and try to take some stuff,,I can stop you,,so,,the government has the authority to stop people from stealing..
Can I pollute your water? NO,,so the Government can stop me,,
Can I tell you not to smoke? No,,so the Government CAN'T
Can I tell you not to smoke pot? NO, so the Government can't
Can I stop you from driving with no seatbelt on? NO,,so the government can't
The Government is the PEOPLE,so what PEOPLE CAN OR CAN'T do,the Government can or cant
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican
"can I come to your house on pay day and take my cut?"
Dumbass. You're not doing anything for me to warrant that I pay you a dime. I used to work at a store in an airport. The STORE paid the AIRPORT AUTHORITY a cut of their profits because the airport authority provided a place for them to set up their store, among other services.
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sc0pl355 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican Being an american citizen means that you CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY. Someone has to pay for the benefits that comes with being an american. If you don't like it, then MOVE TO THE REPUBLIC OF ZIMBABWE or the REPUBLIC OF CONGO and quit your bitchin.
We all pay for the clean water, clean air, public safety and international authority that we americans enjoy. If you don't want those things, then fucking leave.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 CONTRIBUTE?????WHO THE HELL MADE YOU MY MORAL MENTOR? ARE YOU A NUT OR WHAT? YOU GIVE YOUR STUFF UP SO I CAN LIVE BETTER!!! HOW DO YOU LIKE IT???
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY MONEY! ARE YOU SOME KIND OF DAMN CONTROL FREAK!
YOU CONTRIBUTE ALL YOUR MONEY! YOU GO FIGHT WARS! YOU GO VOLUNTEER !! YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU....DON"T TELL ME TO DO ANYTHING EVER AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU CAN TYPE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "WHO THE HELL MADE YOU MY MORAL MENTOR?"
IF you want the priviledges of being an American, then you must contribute. IF you don't want that, then leave. I'm not being a moral mentor, I'm telling you the only two logical options. Yopu can't expect to have all the priviledges and protections of being an American citizen without contributing, you child.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 FORCING people to contribute is not FREEDOM. EITHER YOU ARE FOR FREEDOM, or you are NOT. Make a choice.
If you say you are FOR LIBERTY, You must be against FORCE.
If you are for FORCE to take taxes to pay for things like welfare, then you ARE NOT FOR LIBERTY.
Again,,,I ask,,are you on the Government DOLE?
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY MONEY!"
1) It's not your money. It is a voucher that only has value because WE THE PEOPLE agree that it has value. It has NO INTRINSIC VALUE beyond that.
2) Look, if you don't want to contribute, then just leave, you worthless slug. Move to Zimbabwe and live with the gun-toting savages. Experience life that's exactly the way you say it should be.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "YOU CONTRIBUTE ALL YOUR MONEY! YOU GO FIGHT WARS! YOU GO VOLUNTEER !!"
1) Nobody asked for all your money, dude. You should pay your fair share. I pay my fair share, so you should too. If you don't want to, then leave. We don't need your deadbeat ass draining our nation.
2) There's no longer a draft. NOBODY is forcing you to volunteer for anything.
"DON"T TELL ME TO DO ANYTHING EVER AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU CAN TYPE."
I'll say what I want to say. Stop being a useless sack.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 THEY TAKE 55% of my earnings!!!! 55% 55% 55% 55% 55% 55%
FIFTY FIVE PERCENT..of what I make,,,goes to taxes. They arent asking me for my money? ARE YOU ON CRACK? they arent asking,,you are right,,THEY ARE TAKING BY FORCE.
Dude you are a moron, you are why this country is in the toilet. If I didnt have to pay 55% I could hire like 7 more people to work for me,,,you moron,,what a clown
Just think if 2 million business hired 7 people each,,,hey guess what,,better economy,,
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "My way is called LIBERTY"
No, your way is called being a petulant child that wants to bitch about the fact that he has to pay his share into society, but doesn't have the balls to do anything about it other than whine like a little girl.
But hey, if you chumps feel so strongly about this, then fucking leave. Tell you what, why don't you ladies just go to NH and vote to leave the union. Then you are free to do whatever you want. But don't expect any help from us.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 Again,,let me ask,,are you on the Government Dole? You speak like you get some sort of government welfare,,,,
Government Job? or anything provided by government?
If you are a Veteran, that is ok. I believe we should take care of them,,but the Government DOESN'T!! haha kinda odd isn't it?
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican I'm not on welfare, you slug. I always pay my way.
"Government Job? or anything provided by government?"
No and NO. The government doesn't do anything special for me that they don't do for YOU. The difference is that I understand that my taxes pay for a lot of things that keep this nation relatively safe, free and pleasant to live in with worldwide influence and prestige.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 "The difference is that I understand that my taxes pay for a lot of things that keep this nation relatively safe, free and pleasant to live in with worldwide influence and prestige."
Free? HAHA,,yes,,i like being free to have my ass grabbed at an airport..
Pleasant? Dude come to providence, nothing but potholes and cops writing tickets,,real pleasent..
Influence,,ya in the form of 500 Lbs of TNT in a missle..
Prestige,,haha,,we cant beat 100 taliban with 150k troops in afganistan,LOL
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "yes,,i like being free to have my ass grabbed at an airport.."
You're free to NOT fly if you don't like being frisked. That's like coming to my house and bitching because I tell you to check your coat. IT'S MY HOUSE! YOU WILL RESPECT MY RULES! Same goes for the airprot. Their airport, their rules. Don't like it? Don't fly.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 TSA IS FEDERAL THEY FORCE AIRPORTS TO FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES OR GET FINED!!!!! haha,,there is that key word,,FORCE
Can the FED force you to frisk people who come into your house? Can they Can they? NOPE
If the airport has security for themselves,,they would be better and much more efficient then the TSA
There were several studies that were done and came to this conclusion.
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "TSA IS FEDERAL"
And? Airports can legally opt-out of using the TSA, jackass.
"Can the FED force you to frisk people who come into your house?"
Stop saying FED, dummy. The FED is a private bank. Also, the Federal Government doesn't force airports to use the TSA or screeners. They can legally opt-out.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
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sc0pl355 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "Pleasant? Dude come to providence, nothing but potholes and cops writing tickets,,real pleasent.."
If those are your biggest problems, I think I'd love it there. What's the job market like?
"Influence,,ya in the form of 500 Lbs of TNT in a missle.."
Violence solves lots of problems. If anyone disagrees, then let's see what mr baseball bat across the kneecaps has to say to change their mind...
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 "Violence solves lots of problems. If anyone disagrees, then let's see what mr baseball bat across the kneecaps has to say to change their mind"
Dude,,,you are losing it man,,,I have never ever ever in my life, come to a point where I had to even use violence.
I guess you like unions then because my father was in one and he loved to kick the crap out of non-union guys who crossed the picket,,
I am sure my father is getting a lesson from God now, on why this was wrong,,
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "I have never ever ever in my life, come to a point where I had to even use violence."
Yet you brag about being in the military like it is an accomplishment? Those rifles don't fire posies.
"I guess you like unions"
unions protect the interest of the workers. Better than letting corporations and fat cats run roughshod over their employees.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 "Yet you brag about being in the military like it is an accomplishment? Those rifles don't fire posies."
And I left the military, when they had form questionnaires passed out to us, and one of the Questions on that form was,,
"Would you fire on American Citizens if ordered too?"
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "And I left the military, when they had form questionnaires passed out to us, and one of the Questions on that form was,,
"Would you fire on American Citizens if ordered too?""
That's a big grey area question that would depend on the circumstances and whether or not the order were legal or not. If my superior ordered me to do that, I would need to know the reason before I can accept that order.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You are truly misled,,,, I wouldn't even need to ask...
In fact, a whole argument started because I said it was a bullsh*t question, and my platoon Sgt said, the answer is easy, you follow orders, my reply was,,well,,what if your son was in the crowd? Don't worry, I said,,you don't have to,,I will shoot at him,,then,,,bam i was pushed into the lockers...haha,,its ok,,when the order is given to shoot some one else's son I guess,,,
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "I wouldn't even need to ask..."
Well, if you're too weak to pull the trigger...
"what if your son was in the crowd?"
Someone's son is in the crowd. I wouldn't shoot if I knew my own close family was in the crowd, but that's different.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
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@AngriestAmerican "I am sure my father is getting a lesson from God now, on why this was wrong,,"
Hmm, have you ever READ the bible? God had no problem with Rape, Murder, Incest, forced marriages, group sex and so on, but he has as problem with your father putting some scabs in their place so he can put food in your ungrateful mouth? LOL
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 Dude,,SLUG? I am a fukin architect,,with a 135 IQ. I design structures that would make Da Vinci scratch his head in amazement. I served 9 years in the Army Infantry, how many did you serve? I scored a 99/1 on the ASVAB test, my recruiter said,,you got 6 answers wrong,,on 350 questions, you are General Material.
All my clients pay from their hard earned savings,,I DONT DO ANY GOVERNMENT WORK AT ALL.
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "Dude,,SLUG?"
Yeas, SLUG. You don't want to contribute anything to this nation. You only want to take. So you're a SLUG. I don't give two fucks about what you do for a living. You may as well be living in Mexico or Canada as far as I'm concerned.
"with a 135 IQ"
First off, my IQ is higher than that. Secondly, an IQ score doesn't count for anything in a debate. That'd be like me bragging about my dick size. Maybe if you had about 20 more points, you'd know that.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 And arguing that you are more American, and more patriotic than I am,,is like arguing you are better in bed than I am,, IT MOST LIKELY ISN'T TRUE.
How many years in the Armed forces you have? Hmmmm?
If being "Patriotic" is contributing, contribute all of what you make,,then, you could easily win this debate...
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "And arguing that you are more American, and more patriotic than I am,,is like arguing you are better in bed than I am,, IT MOST LIKELY ISN'T TRUE."
1) I'm American enough to either contribute or leave. That's more than a useless slug, like you, is willing to do for this country.
2) You don't know anything about me or my sexlife. but judging from how sensitive you are on the matter, I'm willing to bet that you don't lay pipe, bro.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@sc0pl355 "I'm American enough to either contribute or leave" You are the Furthest from what the FOUNDERS, yes the people who MADE this country,, wanted us to be...
You are the scourge of the country, bringing it down, by forcing productive people to pay for UNPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE.
In the end,,I pay taxes, so people can have jobs in the government, who might not be able to keep a job, doing what I do. I pay taxes to subsidize government jobs,,end of story,,,
AngriestAmerican 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "You are the Furthest from what the FOUNDERS, yes the people who MADE this country,, wanted us to be..."
One of the first things the founders did after winning the revolutionary war was COLLECT TAXES. The fucking constitution even talks about collecting taxes! They fought over taxation WITHOUT representation! You have representation, so quit your bitching.
sc0pl355 11 months ago
@AngriestAmerican "by forcing productive people to pay for UNPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE."
I NEVER ONCE SAID THAT I WAS FOR WELFARE!
"I pay taxes to subsidize government jobs,,end of story,,,"
No, you pay taxes to keep the country from devolving into chaos. If you don't like it, then fucking leave.
sc0pl355 11 months ago