vote yes on proposition 8 - restore marriage

[TheJoelef]

HOW ABOUT WE GET THE GOVERNMENT out of marriage. Theres no reason a bunch of bureracrats should approve my marriage.

[Pilgrim812]

See you in court, the United States Supreme Court

[streetsurfer419]

NO...lol

[renderreason]

Overthrow 8!!

[blackmetalqueer]

disgusting, as if to say only heteros take the time to raise kids. You guys are disgusting and evil.

No to H8!

[Piccylo]

So... if a woman has a kid with her husband, gets divorced, later falls in love with another woman, and lives with her to help expenses in raising the kid...

...This is worse than her living on welfare for the rest of her life?

[sheelagirl]

u thnk splitting gay ppl will help families? u thnk not allowing gay rights to marriage will hurt families?no.i wont.this is like making divorce illegal just because children need "a mother and a father" growining up

many children have been adopted by gay couples. what about them? are those children worthless to you? will u take away the children from their gay parents tat they are already proboblly very attwched to? the truth is those gay ppl have a family too

[boscofan59]

Thats not the point it is morally wrong. You CANNOT have 2nd graders be learning about gay marriage. That is EXACTLY when kids are getting over the eww girls or eww boys phase. It just gives them another reason to say that. Its not all about letting them marry because im sure you would not want your kid being taught to be gay. Only imagine that and you wouldn't be so passionate about no on Prop 8. Please reply maturely.

[sheelagirl]

they will not teach children to be gay, its informing them of something tht rly exists in the world. we inform children of the civil rights movement and wars. we inform them on how to use guns...does tht mean theyll grow up to be mass murderers? no. it may be morally wrong in ur eyes...y is tht?

[justdobbs]

actually, astoria is half right. Divorce is also a sin against marriage. I get tired of the Catholic Church looking good when you delve into the heart of an issue :o)

[mrslooney200]

Whoever posted this and the endless ridiculous comments afterward is a total idiot.

[astoria30001]

Gay Marriage is no threat to traditional marriage. I say if U really wanna nail what's killing traditional marriage then you go ahead and bann divorce... problem solved.

[Wydo1]

We need to change the name of our country from USA to the Peoples Republic of the Latter Day Saints.

[frenchamericantv]

VOTE YS ON 8. Its the right thing to do.

no one is gay.

its a myth

[glassycreekglassy]

oh really then why you take the time to support prop8.

[sheelagirl]

THERE ARE PPL LIVING IN CALI WHO ARE GAY, MARRIED, HAVE ADOPTED CHILDREN AND THIS LAW IS GOING TO COMPLETELY ALTER THEIR LIVES FOREVER...thnk about THEIR children...

[ihatejoell]

We are thinking of the children by voting against it. A child we simply be terrorised and traumatised, as a result, by having two same-sex parents. Why put that pressure on a young child? It's unbelievable!

[sheelagirl]

i dnt even underserstand ur response and i dnt feel like argueing with closeminded ppl

[ihatejoell]

What don't understand? Don't run from it, face it, bitch:

-We are thinking of the kids by voting against it

-Kids will be "made fun of" automatically in school

-Why put a child through that?

[sheelagirl]

put a child through wut? wtf are u talking about? i cant even tall if ur voting yes or no on prop 8...goodness

[thebabelinkin]

Show me something that makes sense, that gives me some facts, or even your point of view. For all I know, those could be the adopted children of homosexual couples!

[ActsOfBeauty]

we didn't vote on your marriage, what gives you the right to vote on ours?

No on 8

[frenchamericantv]

so dont vote

[Permaglo]

Will you people stop USING children to promote your twisted agenda of discrimination?

[frenchamericantv]

Children are born straight. Anyone who tells you they were born gay is lying. no one is born gay. Its brainwashing that they end up believing by other converted gay people.

[Permaglo]

"Children are born straight."

Children are born asexual, meaning they don't think about sex and their sex organs don't work.

What the hell are "converted gay people?"

[glassycreekglassy]

children are not born striaght or gay. they are not even thinking about sex when they're babies.

you believe that a baby boy is dreaming of having sex with a girl!!!!!!?

[peaceispatriotic7]

I grew up in Laguna Beach, California. Laguna Beach has a large gay community. And YES, they are born that way. I spoke with many of my gay friends, and they said that they knew they were different than their brothers, sisters, and friends at 3 and 4 years of age. In no way does a gay marriage affect a straight marriage. Since 6/15/08 over 18,000 gay couples have married in California. How has this affected your marriage? Really, I hope someone can answer me. EQUALITY FOR ALL!

[ma7799]

@frenchamericantv

Not to mention, the gays take them under their wing when they need a group to belong to...

[frenchamericantv]

Proposition 8 doesn't take away any rights or benefits from gay or lesbian domestic

partners. Under California law, "domestic partners shall have the same rights, protections

and benefits" as married spouses. (Family Code §297.5.) There are no exceptions to this.

Proposition 8 will not change this.

[Permaglo]

Gay marriage doesn't take away any rights or benefits from heterosexual couples. So call gay marriage what it is...MARRIAGE.

Vote NO on Prop 8!

[frenchamericantv]

What are the reasons that we, as citizens, oppose gay marriage?

Legalizing gay marriage has huge legal implications far beyond letting same-sex couples enter into marriage contracts. Once "marriage" has been so radically redefined, it will become unlawful and discriminatory for schools or any other public facility to favor, for instance, heterosexual dating or dancing.

[Permaglo]

"it will become unlawful and discriminatory for schools or any other public facility to favor, for instance, heterosexual dating or dancing."

That's been illegal for years!

[frenchamericantv]

Since our culture (like all human cultures throughout all of history) is oriented toward promoting the maximum opportunity for reproductive success for all members of the community, but channeled in a way that will best promote the survival of the community, such a radical change should not be entered into lightly.

Yet serious examination of scientific, historical, and legal issues has been all but drowned out by name-calling and demands for "rights."

[frenchamericantv]

Why do we oppose legalizing gay marriage?

1. Homosexuality itself is simply not understood. The available evidence suggests that bisexuality is far more common than exclusive homosexuality, that same-sex attraction may be a phase in some individuals and is merely an option for others.

[frenchamericantv]

2. Even where individuals feel they have no option except same-sex attraction, we do not understand the cause. The available evidence argues for at most a genetic contribution, with other -- probably environmental -- causes involved. The best evidence is that children are most likely to be reproductively viable -- i.e., able to mate successfully in circumstances likely to produce children who grow up to be reproductively viable -- when they have two parents, one of the same sex, and one of

[frenchamericantv]

the opposite sex.

[frenchamericantv]

3. Growing up with opposite-sex parents, but in a society that has normalized and actively promotes one-sex marriages, will certainly affect the children of opposite-sex parents, potentially tipping the balance for children whose sexual identity is still formable.

[frenchamericantv]

4. Those who promote gay marriage have already shown a disposition to insist on uniformity of thought on the topic, and will certainly attempt to use the power of the state to suppress any attempt to publicly express a preference for heterosexuality, even (or especially) when such a preference has a religious basis, making this a potential religious-freedom and freedom-of-speech-and-press issue as well.

[frenchamericantv]

5. Gay marriage has been instituted in three states (so far) only by judicial decree, and without even the pretext that the constitutions involved were ever written with the intention of promoting or allowing gay marriage. This has happened even in a state (California) where a large majority of the people had already rejected gay marriage at the ballot box.

[carobcoolyn]

It is a case of separate but equal, that is still wrong.

[glassycreekglassy]

"seperate but equal" sounds familar doesn't it

hmmmmm

i wonder from where or when i heard that?

[frenchamericantv]

How seriously can any of us take the president's vow to "protect the sanctity of marriage" when Britney Spears indulges in it for 5 minutes in Vegas? Marriage has become a television reality game show.

And protecting children? Before amending the Constitution, perhaps the Feds should make divorce a little harder to get. It's divorce that is ruining children's lives at the moment, not a couple of lesbians who want to get married (no matter how scary some of those pictures were out of San Franci

[glassycreekglassy]

hey since when has britney been a role model for anybody.

[frenchamericantv]

those who oppose gay marriage are "homophobes," "haters" and the label du jour "bigots." Once again, the left, unable to answer critics with respect, resort to name-calling only to further the divide they need to validate their inevitable victimhood.

Marriage is worth protecting, in more ways than one. It's also worth noting the cavalier way in which heterosexuals have handled marriage has lent fuel to the fire of this issue.

[frenchamericantv]

Now, when Americans have said through polls and voting, that they do not want to give up the meaning of marriage but support a comparable alternative, how do the gay elite respond? When you ask for one cultural thing to be left untouched, the Gay Elite become the Gay Gestapo.

It's a very fast change from the polo shirt to the brown shirt these days.

In classic Thought Police fashion and like children throwing a tantrum, the name-calling flies—

[frenchamericantv]

Society has been the benevolent parent for a very long time. And it has been amazing, and a testament to the American character, that despite being a people of faith who have legitimate concerns about the gay lifestyle, Americans have made this the best place on Earth for gays and lesbians, where we are free to live incomparably rich lives.

[frenchamericantv]

Part of the fight for gay marriage is based in Sullivan's lament—that it is only governmental recognition of who are that will make us whole. Let's get real—the only thing that will make gay people whole is personal acceptance of ourselves by ourselves. Instead, we are still looking to Mommy or Daddy, now in the form of Society, to tell us we're Okay. To sanctify, if you will, our lives and relationships.

[frenchamericantv]

and wanted. He claimed that anything other than marriage will "build a wall between gay people and their own families."

While his story was personal and moving, the argument was, frankly, nonsense, and representative of the general mentality among the gay elite. It also gives the government and other people's opinions far too much power over the quality of our lives and effectively eliminates our own responsibility for our happiness.

[frenchamericantv]

We've been through worse, we've survived and found solutions. We'll survive this too, but the gay community must come to terms with a few issues first.

Gays ultimately need to stop looking to government for unconditional love and approval of who we are. Andrew Sullivan, a political commentator and writer many of you know and respect, wrote a piece for Time magazine where he actually equated governmental recognition of gay marriage as a necessary element to all gay people feeling accepted and

[frenchamericantv]

After all, if we are truly committed to wanting to save and not tamper with our traditional institutions which represent the core of the American value system, doesn't the Constitution fall into that category as well?

I am heartened by a few true conservatives, including Representative David Dreier whom I got to know on the Schwarzenegger Transition Team, who have voiced concerns about the rush to amend.

[frenchamericantv]

Clearly, the Constitution should be amended as a last resort. Regardless of how you feel about gay marriage, or abortion, or saving the spotted owl (or not), the Constitution is not made of silly putty—to be twisted and shaped and torn apart depending on our national mood. It is written in a way that makes us have to struggle with issues we face.

[frenchamericantv]

rights?

They heard me, but it was disturbing that I had to put this into perspective.

Now, in Washington, DC the president has declared the need to amend the U.S. Constitution! Really now—that appears to be as much of a stunt as the rogue gay marriages in San Francisco. And this from a man (who along with Cheney) in the last election who said it should be a matter left to the states. It seems, though, only if the states do what you like.

[frenchamericantv]

all hell seems to have broken loose—not only in San Francisco, but in Washington, DC as well.

On one hand you have the reckless law-breaking behavior of San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom bestowing marriage licenses on gay couples. A few of my gay friends have voiced their support for this. I reminded these friends, who are also pro-choice, that Fresno, California has a pro-life mayor. How would they feel if that mayor decided to ignore the law and keep women from accessing their legal abortion

[frenchamericantv]

Despite this, American society remains committed to equality, but it's apparent that we don't like the aftermath of taking our traditions for granted. So, yes, we've decided to maintain the idea of "marriage" as it has stood, while finding another way to guarantee the rights of gay people.

While this should actually be a relatively easy situation to resolve (heck, Bush, Kerry and Edwards all hold the same position—against gay marriage, for civil unions),

[frenchamericantv]

The "Counter Culture" was born.

Courtesy of cultural Incrementalism (which I explain in my previous column) what it became has rivaled Rosemary's Baby.

Today's struggle with single-parent families, drug addiction, the epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases among the young, suicide rates, the devaluing of the family, and even the extraordinarily high divorce rate, I contend, can be traced back to the time which lionized the destruction of the traditional and the elevation of moral relativism

[frenchamericantv]

Frankly, I believe the cultural trouble and moral vapidity in our society today—the moral relativism I write about in DRW—has sprung from the 'liberation' movements of the 60s and 70s. It was then that the Left began to attack the traditional in the name of liberation and equality.

Anything that would strike a pose against authority and social norms, ranging from promiscuous sex to drug abuse to adultery to riotous violence, was embraced and encouraged by leftist leadership.

[frenchamericantv]

deserves the same rights and protections as every other. Most of you do, too. The very same polls that show how united Americans are against "gay marriage" indicate a majority approving of civil unions.

That doesn't surprise me. It is consistent with the American belief that we can have fair play and equality while recognizing the need to honor traditional institutions.

[frenchamericantv]

We do not all operate in the cultural or political equivalent of a Vulcan mind-meld.

I, one among many, respect and understand the growing concern about the disintegration of our traditions and values. I am so concerned, it is the heart and soul of my second book, The Death of Right and Wrong.

Consequently, I respect the majority of Americans and their opinion that marriage should be defined as between one man and one woman.

At the same time, as an American, I also believe that every American

[frenchamericantv]

But the debate over the idea of gay marriage has brought out concerns by one extremist end that it will lead to people marrying their livestock to Gay Gestapo charges of homophobic bigotry against those opposed to same-sex nuptials.

Neither accusation is valid, so as an independent gay woman, I think it's time to make a few things clear.

[frenchamericantv]

Respecting Marriage and Equal Rights

Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004

Whoever thought that there would be actual voiced concerns about men in America wanting to marry their goats? Is there something going on in our great Heartland that I've missed? Instead of "The L Word" does Showtime have a special series just for the Midwest called "The G Word"?

Of course not.

[frenchamericantv]

Black or white we all have the same parts

its not a matter of equality

its a matter of what has been good for society

for million of years.

Gay marriage is the wrong way to move a

civilizaion in the right direction.

[mzlolalee2008]

NO on prop 8!

EQUALITY for ALL !

Interracial marriage was illegal not long ago and in 1912 Representative Seaborn Roddenbery introduced a proposal in the United States House of Representatives to insert a prohibition of miscegenation into the US Constitution and thus create a nation-wide ban on interracial marriage. According to the wording of the proposed amendment, "Intermarriage between negros or persons of color and Caucasians within the United States is FOREVER prohibited".

Think about it !

[frenchamericantv]

These are the facts. This is the truth about the calculated efforts to deliver gay marriage into our public school classrooms, against the wishes of the people of our state. Voters may differ about how they feel about gay marriage, but there is no disputing that the organizations funding and leading the No on Proposition 8 campaign have already revealed, in their own words, their desire to impose this subject on children in the public schools whether you like it or not.

[sarahdavid15]

As an educator, I hate this stupid arguement. In California we are not allowed to teach family/health issues to students without parent permission. They even need it to teach sex education. We CANNOT teach gay marriage in school. Voting yes on prop 8 is just a way to vote that you hate gay people. LETS END DISCRIMINATION ONCE AND FOR ALL! Even Jesus didn't hate! The statute quoted below is from Massachusetts, not CA. We have different laws regarding parent involvement in education!

[frenchamericantv]

This court has astutely recognized that a broad right of a parent to opt a child out of a lesson would fatally compromise the ability of a school to provide a meaningful education, a conclusion that holds true regardless of the age of the child or the nature of the belief.

[frenchamericantv]

From the ACLU Amicus Curiae Brief:

Specifically, the parents in this case do not have a constitutional right to override the professional pedagogical judgment of the school with respect to the inclusion within the curriculum of the age-appropriate childrens bookKing and King. [p 9]

[frenchamericantv]

The earlier diversity education occurs, the more likely it is that students will be able to educate their peers, thereby compounding the benefits of this instruction

From the Human Rights Campaign Amicus Curiae

There is no constitutional principle grounded in either the

First Amendments free exercise clause or the right to direct the upbringing of ones children, which requires defendants to either remove the books now in issue or to treat them as suspect by imposing an opt-out system

[frenchamericantv]

From the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Amicus Curiae Brief:

In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts , where the right of same-sex couples to marry is protected under the state constitution, it is particularly important to teach children about families with gay parents.

Diversity education is most effective when it begins during the students formative years.

[frenchamericantv]

According to legal records on file with the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit in Boston, Massachusetts in the case Parker v. Hurley (514 F.3d 87 (1st Cir.2008)), some of the very organizations who are funding and driving the No on 8 campaign have argued vociferously that gay marriage should be taught in the public schools under the guise of diversity, and any attempt to prohibit such instruction or to permit parents to opt their children out of it must be stopped.

[frenchamericantv]

Not only do the organizations leading the No on 8 campaign want gay marriage, under the guise of diversity, taught in public schools, they believe it is important to teach it at the earliest possible age, Schubert said. Massachusetts begins its diversity education to five year old children in kindergarten.

[sarahdavid15]

Not true.

[frenchamericantv]

In the greatest irony, of course, just two days after the No on 8 Lies television commercial began airing, a first grade public school class in San Francisco was taken on a field trip to a lesbian wedding at City Hall, officiated by Mayor Gavin Newsom. School officials said they wished to provide their five and six year old students a teachable moment.

[frenchamericantv]

These damning public records show that it is in fact the organizations leading and financing the No on 8 campaign who are lying to California voters, said Yes on 8 campaign manager Frank Schubert. On one coast of the country they tell judges that gay marriage should be taught to children in school at the youngest possible age. But, on the opposite coast, here in California , they have the audacity to tell voters that gay marriage has nothing to do with public schools.

[frenchamericantv]

Further, their assurance that parents can always opt-out of such instruction when it is taught is belied by the fact that in Massachusetts, they argued successfully that Massachusetts parental opt-out provision should not be permitted.

[frenchamericantv]

Yet a review of public records filed with the First District Court of Appeal in Boston shows these same organizations who claim our statement is a lie fought to make it true in Massachusetts. Specifically, they fought to ensure that gay marriage be taught in Massachusetts public schools, even over the objection of parents who sought an opt out for their children. Gay marriage was legalized by Massachusetts courts in 2003.

[frenchamericantv]

The top issue that has emerged in the Proposition 8 campaign is whether same-sex marriage will be taught in California public schools if the initiative is not enacted. Opponents of Proposition 8 are spending millions of dollars on television commercials telling voters that the Yes on 8 campaigns claim that gay marriage will be taught in public schools is a lie.

[bwendell27]

NO on prop 8!

SOMEDAY everyone involved in the YES campaign will be ashamed that they ever were.

(Just like those who were AGAINST women's rights and those who were FOR slavery.

)

It's not up to your neighbor to tell you who you can and can't marry!

Free will is the most important part of being an american. Freedom to marry who we want to, to join the religion we want to, to kiss who we want to, to love who we want to, to preach what we want to. Preserve the right to be free!

[healthygirlll]

Then marry your dog ! and lets more forward and change the definition of marriage to include animals and plants.

[frenchamericantv]

Yes a lot of people live with their dog. They should be allowed to marry them like leona Hemsley who left everything

to her dog when she died.

[bwendell27]

yeah because a lot of people want to do that. and a lot of people are in love with their dog or their begonia and want to spend the rest of their lives showing their love and dedicating themselves to their animal or plant companion.

great argument.

[Hulabalooza89]

Congratulations on being a bigot you piece of shit. Campaigning to eliminate peoples rights how noble of you.

[MOboyinLA]

Hmmm..No, I don't think we are "all" bisexual, that's a gross generalization. I think paying a surrogate to birth a child is an effective method, used by both heterosexuals and homosexuals. And I don't know what culture you're from, but we don't normally dispose of the "machine" afterwards. What you describe is certainly a fairytale. There are too many children out there that have been "thrown away" by their biological parents, and gay couples are more than happy to pick up the pieces.

[MOboyinLA]

Just another instance of ignorance running rampant.

[frenchamericantv]

Well, I have a friend who was a gay activist then he met a woman during his activist work and fell in love and she fell in love with him too, so they got married and are happily married

so from gay activist, he became the opposite.

so it does happen more often than you think.

so people do change.

[MOboyinLA]

You say he was a gay activist, not that he was gay. I have many straight friends who are also gay acitivist, because they believe in equality for all. People can certainly change their viewpoints, however, homesexuality is not and never has been a "condition" or a "viewpoint", and for a heterosexual to even state that is idiocy and ignorance. I don't know what it's like to be heterosexual, but I can tell you one thing, I did not wake up one morning and "choose" to be homosexual.

[MOboyinLA]

And in addition; if someone was a praciticing homosexual and then marries a women then he is most likely bisexual. I'm not sure what the study was that provided the 90% statistic.

[healthygirlll]

aren't we all bi-sexual?

so lets do what's best for the continuation of society.

Many gays think they can just pay someone to have their kid and dispose of the machine that made the kid. it doesnt work that way. the child needs nurturing from both biological parents.

[healthygirlll]

I come from a culture that believes we are all both.

so why not pick whats healthy for society.?

[frenchamericantv]

being gay is not a permanent condition. most people change and get married that's why 90% understand they were in the wrong direction.

[themondaygirls]

How would you know? Unless you are gay. And posting this video because you are insecure about your own sexual orientation!

[themondaygirls]

What if one of those children turn out gay. I bet your perspective would change. I bet those children would want there rights an you would want theirs!

[frenchamericantv]

Many seem to believe that marriage is simply a private love relationship between two people. They accept this view, in part, because Americans have increasingly emphasized and come to value the intimate, emotional side of marriage, and in part because almost all opinion leaders today, from journalists to judges, strongly embrace this position. That's certainly the idea that underpinned the California Supreme Court's legalization of same-sex marriage.

[frenchamericantv]

Marriage as a human institution is constantly evolving, and many of its features vary across groups and cultures. But there is one constant. In all societies, marriage shapes the rights and obligations of parenthood. Among us humans, the scholars report, marriage is not primarily a license to have sex. Nor is it primarily a license to receive benefits or social recognition. It is primarily a license to have children.

[frenchamericantv]

What are we to do? It seems that it only gets worse. On job applications right after you choose male or female, you will have to check a box for straight or gay! We need help in this country. God needs to squirt a big bottle of hand sanitizer on this earth.

[frenchamericantv]

Protecting marriage to protect children

Marriage as a human institution is constantly evolving. But in all societies, marriage shapes the rights and obligations of parenthood.

By David Blankenhorn

September 19, 2008

I'm a liberal Democrat. And I do not favor same-sex marriage. Do those positions sound contradictory? To me, they fit together.

[frenchamericantv]

.. Yet the larger empirical literature on child well-being suggests that the two sexes bring different talents to the parenting enterprise, and that children benefit from growing up with both their biological parents. ...

[jerrydoubleu]

Your are as full of digested beans as a Christmas turkey.

[frenchamericantv]

Over the pas few decades, we have experimented with various alternatives to marriage, and the evidence is now clear: children raised in married, intact families generally do better in every area of life than those raised in various

alternatives family structures. Those who care about the well being of children - as every citizen should - should care about the health of modern marriage.

[frenchamericantv]

Sara McLanahan and Gary Sandefur, sociologists at Princeton and Wisconsin respectively, sum up the reason that marriage matters for children in this way :

"...The fact that both parents have a biological connection to the child would increase the likelihood that the parents would identify with the child and be willing to sacrifice for that child, and it would reduce the likelihood that either parent would abuse the child" .

[frenchamericantv]

Martin Luther King Jr. quote:

"Marriage is neither a conservative nor a liberal issue; it is a universal human institution, guaranteeing children fathers, and pointing men and women toward a special kind of socially as well as personally fruitful sexual relationship. Gay marriage is the final step down a long road America has already traveled toward deinstitutionalizing, denuding and privatizing marriage. It would set in legal stone some of the most destructive ideas of the sexual revolution:

[frenchamericantv]

There are no differences between men and women that matter, marriage has nothing to do with procreation, children do not really need mothers and fathers, the diverse family forms adults choose are all equally good for children. What happens in my heart is that I know the difference. Don't confuse my people, who have been the victims of deliberate family destruction, by giving them another definition of marriage." Martin Luther King, Jr.'s march on DC

[cryan71]

Mormon Apostle MARK E. PETERSEN:"I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after ... It isn't that he just desires to go the same theater as the white people ... the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage ...Now we are generous with the Negro.

[cryan71]

We are willing that the Negro have the highest education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that they have all the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation?"

[mike2jb]

Beautiful babies!

I would be so ashamed to use my child to put forth a message of hate. Prop 8 is the first amendment in California history that would take away rights instead of adding to them.

It's the first statewide attempt since internment of the Japanese to single out one group of people to have their civil rights revoked.

State your support for Prop 8 and your reasons, if you have any, but why not leave the innocent kids out of it?

Surely you haven't taught them to hate quite yet.