PatMarine, I got an e-mail notice of your suggestion about DDL and Meryl Streep (apparently removed), which I think would work. You have a movie there!
Excuse my back-to-back, but who today could play Lion? Pacino or De Niro? No, they've done such a tiny range for so long they've become cartoons. Spacey is good but seems adolescent.
Actors have "shrunk" in the power and authority they project. The classic elders: Olivier, Gielgud, Richardson, Welles. The able children: O'Toole, Burton, Finney, Brando.
But the "grandchildren": Duvall? Hurt (either)? Hoffman? Sorry.
"Great grandkids" Ledger, Phoenix or Gyllenhaal as Henry II? Sad. No way.
You have a point. It's possible. I was going to mention DDL's age as going against him, but he is 51and O'Toole was only 38 when he did it! (And Kate Hepburn was 62!)
I suppose it has been already said, but there is already a remake, starring Patrick Stewart (great in Henry II's role) and Glenn Close as Eleanor. But the three children are second class actors, not especially good in it. And Johnattan Rhys-Meyers does not reach Thimothy Dalton as King Phillip II.
I believe Daniel Day-Lewis would be perfect in this role. Considering Henry is about late 50's. DDL has the intensity and sentivity to pull of this gigantic role.
P O'T and Hepburn play the roles of their lives. The film is a synergy : a script which is already excellent becomes Shakespearean by the sublime performance of the actors; the memorable performances of the lead actors are made legendary because of the stunning power of the script; and the entire cast's wonderful individual performances are in such perfect harmony that each lifts all the others.
What an awe-inspiring performance; what a mesmerizing movie
This is one of the greatest movies of all time, due to its absolutely magnificent cast! The remake on Showtime was okay, but doesn't touch the original on any level.
I agree. There is nothing wrong with the Patrick Stewart version, and if this one had never been made we would be saying how good the Showtime version was. However it cannot compete with this one.
Their excuse for not giving him the oscar for lawrence of arabia was that gregory peck(who was brilliant) was excellent in to kill... and everyone rather liked peck so we let it go,but the academy ought to be taken out and shot for not giving it to him for this(and don't forget Brcket,a year in which they gave it to rex harrisson for my fair lady ahead of pete,burton,quinn, and sellers in dr strangelove!?!?!?!)the crazy dumb bastards.
Arguably the finest scene in one of the best movies of the Golden Age of Hollywood. I've loved the thing for decades, and seldom (if ever) seen its equal.
So great to hear from those who love this movie as much as I do! :)
Looking at this performance, which tears my heart in two every time I see it, I think how did Peter O'Toole lose out on the Oscar? Did the Academy leave their brains and hearts at home?
On the IMDB page for Lion in Winter, watch out for pictures of Peter playing cricket in costume as Henry. Brings a smile to my face
Hepburn was great in this movie but Peter O'Toole was fabulous if there were any movie he should have won an Oscar for it would have been this one ! I have this movie on DVD on glad I do it is great
Does everyone realize he was only 36 when he made this movie? Hepburn was 61. He modifies and modulates his body and voice to age himself convincingly by decades.... nothing short of remarkable.
This movie, as somebody already said, is the best dialogue (both textually and in the delivery) ever put together for the screen. Incredbily influential, to boot. Aaron Sorkin used to from this movie on more than a regular basis.
sorta reminds me of paul scofield in king lear
Dizinii 4 months ago
Wazzat Anthony Hopkins I saw?
MarcusDarling4026 1 year ago
This movie gives me chills. Th family is dysfunctional in the extreme and the dialogue is a volley of firecracking missiles all aimed at each other.
upthedown1 1 year ago 2
He is the best!
luxenfux 2 years ago 3
wow, Peter is a very good actor.
leandro00000000007 2 years ago 3
PatMarine, I got an e-mail notice of your suggestion about DDL and Meryl Streep (apparently removed), which I think would work. You have a movie there!
jum1801 2 years ago
I think a DDL/Meryl Streep collaboration could give a Lion in Winter remake justice
PatMarine 2 years ago
Excuse my back-to-back, but who today could play Lion? Pacino or De Niro? No, they've done such a tiny range for so long they've become cartoons. Spacey is good but seems adolescent.
Actors have "shrunk" in the power and authority they project. The classic elders: Olivier, Gielgud, Richardson, Welles. The able children: O'Toole, Burton, Finney, Brando.
But the "grandchildren": Duvall? Hurt (either)? Hoffman? Sorry.
"Great grandkids" Ledger, Phoenix or Gyllenhaal as Henry II? Sad. No way.
jum1801 2 years ago 4
I think Daniel Day-Lewis could pull it off, in my humble opinion. Nobody else comes to mind
PatMarine 2 years ago
You have a point. It's possible. I was going to mention DDL's age as going against him, but he is 51and O'Toole was only 38 when he did it! (And Kate Hepburn was 62!)
jum1801 2 years ago
Don't forget Henry II was 50 when the events in the film transpired.
PatMarine 2 years ago
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I also think a DDL/Meryl Streep collaboration could give a remake justice
PatMarine 2 years ago
The actors "shrinking" in power over the years has to do with how much people rely on big names to sell movies rather than real talent.
To find a good Henry, you would need to look no further than a community theater. Screw all the big names in Hollywood.
MADasinger 2 years ago 4
I suppose it has been already said, but there is already a remake, starring Patrick Stewart (great in Henry II's role) and Glenn Close as Eleanor. But the three children are second class actors, not especially good in it. And Johnattan Rhys-Meyers does not reach Thimothy Dalton as King Phillip II.
Ennio444 2 years ago
I believe Daniel Day-Lewis would be perfect in this role. Considering Henry is about late 50's. DDL has the intensity and sentivity to pull of this gigantic role.
SatiricalTruth 2 years ago
P O'T and Hepburn play the roles of their lives. The film is a synergy : a script which is already excellent becomes Shakespearean by the sublime performance of the actors; the memorable performances of the lead actors are made legendary because of the stunning power of the script; and the entire cast's wonderful individual performances are in such perfect harmony that each lifts all the others.
What an awe-inspiring performance; what a mesmerizing movie
jum1801 2 years ago
This is one of the greatest movies of all time, due to its absolutely magnificent cast! The remake on Showtime was okay, but doesn't touch the original on any level.
NancyG62 3 years ago
I agree. There is nothing wrong with the Patrick Stewart version, and if this one had never been made we would be saying how good the Showtime version was. However it cannot compete with this one.
december2364 3 years ago
The problem was that there was simply to many good movies being made back then to choose. Hollywood just doesn't make good stuff like this anymore.
hoodoo961 3 years ago 4
Their excuse for not giving him the oscar for lawrence of arabia was that gregory peck(who was brilliant) was excellent in to kill... and everyone rather liked peck so we let it go,but the academy ought to be taken out and shot for not giving it to him for this(and don't forget Brcket,a year in which they gave it to rex harrisson for my fair lady ahead of pete,burton,quinn, and sellers in dr strangelove!?!?!?!)the crazy dumb bastards.
harsha1234 3 years ago
Arguably the finest scene in one of the best movies of the Golden Age of Hollywood. I've loved the thing for decades, and seldom (if ever) seen its equal.
paradise357 3 years ago 5
So great to hear from those who love this movie as much as I do! :)
Looking at this performance, which tears my heart in two every time I see it, I think how did Peter O'Toole lose out on the Oscar? Did the Academy leave their brains and hearts at home?
On the IMDB page for Lion in Winter, watch out for pictures of Peter playing cricket in costume as Henry. Brings a smile to my face
samthecrank 4 years ago 4
Well..my father has this scene memorized.
toecutterr6 4 years ago 4
I saw this film one time-in 10th grade history class. It is a very interesting film-almost like a Shakespeare play.
jpphy23 4 years ago
Hepburn was great in this movie but Peter O'Toole was fabulous if there were any movie he should have won an Oscar for it would have been this one ! I have this movie on DVD on glad I do it is great
katehepburnfan 4 years ago
Does everyone realize he was only 36 when he made this movie? Hepburn was 61. He modifies and modulates his body and voice to age himself convincingly by decades.... nothing short of remarkable.
This movie, as somebody already said, is the best dialogue (both textually and in the delivery) ever put together for the screen. Incredbily influential, to boot. Aaron Sorkin used to from this movie on more than a regular basis.
ZestyItalian2 4 years ago 15
I've seen this movie a hundred times, and this scene never fails to give me chills.
Blondiegrrl 4 years ago 4
O'Toole is brilliant. One of the greatest actors of our time.
docontheweb 4 years ago 14
Why, Why, Why, Why has this man never won an Oscar!!
dublinboyo 4 years ago 2
It's only the greatest dialogue ever written for a film. Every line in this film is sensational.
eromacque 4 years ago 2