@s216674 You need to read the whole chapter. Jesus was simply telling the apostles that when they see that someone has truly accepted Christ as savior, they could assure that person that their sins is truly forgiven eternally. NOWHERE in the bible does it say that ANYONE other than God can forgive sins, and that there is NO forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood.So if you want to try and EARN salvation by constantly going into a confession booth, go ahead. I was forgiven at the cross.
@yourtubesteak The writings of the Church fathers disagree with you. Your interpretation of scripture is not in line with what the first Christians believed and taught.
@s216674 Well, you can go by the word of church fathers. I'll go by the word of God in the bible. When Christ said "it is finished", he meant it. In Hebrews where it says Christ paid for ALL of our sin ONCE AND FOR ALL, that's something you can take to the bank. But if you want to believe the words of men over the word of God, that's your choice.
@yourtubesteak Nice try. I've read it, multiple times. You can deny all you like. You can ignore what all of the first Christians said and even what Christ himself taught. As for me, I will hold to the Faith.
@s216674 What faith. It's obviously not in Jesus and what He did on the cross. You don't know what you are talking about if you think Jesus said you have to keep asking for forgiveness. You don't understand that when Jesus was ALIVE he may have referred to the old jewish law on occasion. What is a testament as in last will and testament. It doesn't go into effect until someone dies. When Jesus died on the cross, the NEW TESTAMENT or covenant went into effect. Total forgiveness.
@s216674 No point in continuing this conversation. You can believe your man made catholic church doctrines. I will trust in what GOD'S word says. "Where these HAVE BEEN forgiven, there is no longer a need for a sacrifice for sins". By you running over and over to a confession booth, you are like the jews of the old law. Oops! I sinned. I have to kill a goat or bull to cover my sins. OK. Now I'm good. Oops. I sinned again. I have to kill another bull or goat. OK. My sins are covered again.
@s216674 By constantly asking for forgiveness, you equate the blood of Christ with the blood of a bull or goat. Killing an animal and shedding it's blood just covered your sins until you sinned again. When Christ shed His blood, he TOOK OUR SINS AWAY. Sin is gone. It has been judged and payed for in full. You are just too thick to get this into your head and insist on clinging to your man made doctrines.You can explain to Jesus someday why you didn't fully trust in his sacrifice alone. Bye bye.
@yourtubesteak the sacrifice of calvary is indeed infinite, but is it not true that when you offend a loved one you apologize and make up with them? The Graces of Confession include among others, the remission of guilt due to sin, the assurance of forgiveness (which can only be given by the appointed by God "Receive the Holy spirit, who's sins you forgive are forgiven, who's sins you retain are retained) and the graces to not commit the sin again.
@cheesemonkey1990 I don't feel guilt. If you feel guilty, you are giving in to the devil who wants you to doubt that you are forgiven. I don't need assurance of forgiveness. I KNOW I am forgiven. And as for that verse you quote, I have explained that too many times to repeat. You take it out of context. It certainly does NOT mean the Jesus gave the apostles the power to forgive sins. When is it going to sink in that there is no forgiveness of sin without the SHEDDING OF BLOOD!
@yourtubesteak How do you know you are firgiven? Unless a God appointed minister (ie priest or Bishop) pours the Blood on your soul you are only practixing presumption, which is a form of the UNFORGIVABLE sin against the Holy Spirit! READ THE BIBLE!!!!
@cheesemonkey1990 How do I know I'm forgiven? Why do you think Christ went to the cross? To pay the debt for SOME of our sin? You think that after you accept Christ as savior He turns his back on you if you sin again? YOU are the one who needs to read the bible. You must have missed the part where it says, where these (sins) HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN (past tense) there is no longer a need for a sacrifice for sin. Why do you think Jesus said just before he died on the cross "It is FINISHED".
@cheesemonkey1990 You are so brainwashed by man made doctrines. You really think that you can fall in and out of salvation once you have accepted Christ as savior? Jesus even said there is only one unforgivable sin, and that is the rejection of him as savior. The new covenant is a covenant of TOTAL FORGIVENESS. HE bought our salvation and did EVERYTHING necessary to save us, but you want to add to what he did through your man made doctrines. You just don't get it. You can't out sin God's grace.
@yourtubesteak The Catholic Church is the church founded by Jesus 2000 years ago. I have not said to you anything that is not straight out of the Bible. You can't legitamatley refute my arguments so you attack my person instead. This just goes to show your ignorance of the Bible and Christ himself.
@cheesemonkey1990 The catholic church was founded by Christ????? Your brainwashing is complete. No point in continuing this conversation. NO WHERE in the bible can you back up that statement. Jesus didn't found ANY denomination. Did Jesus preach about a mythical place called purgatory? Did Jesus establish all the so called "sacraments'? I could go on and on. All MAN MADE doctrines. There are numerous catholic doctrines that flat out contradict the bible.
@cheesemonkey1990 You keep going to confession to try and get your sins forgiven by some man. I'll "rest in faith" in what Jesus did for me ETERNALLY at the cross. They wages of sin are death. Jesus paid the wages. IN FULL. "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember NO MORE". How much plainer can it be. His shed blood and death prepared us for what he came to give us. Life eternal. You are dead spiritually until you come to Christ as savior and trust in HIM alone. You obviously don't.
@yourtubesteak You don't get it, Jesus gave the power to forgive IN HIS NAME to his Apostles. Also: the confession of sins can be see in the old testament as people were required to CONFESS their sins to the levites, after which they would prescribe an animal for sacrifice. It is truwe that with out the blood of Christ there can be no remission of sins, but the means of comminicating that Grace is the sacrament of confession.
@cheesemonkey1990 No Jesus did NOT give the apostles the power to forgive sin. No shedding of blood, no forgiveness. Jesus already took care of the forgiveness of sin at the cross. Forever. You obviously haven't read the whole chapter and taken that verse in context, but then again I wouldn't expect you to understand when you make a statement like Jesus founded the catholic church. Absolutely no point in talking about this anymore. You depend on your man made doctrines. I trust in Jesus alone.
@yourtubesteak Receive the Holy Spirit, who's sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Who's sins you retain, they are retained." Yes he did. Plain and simple
@cheesemonkey1990 You need to put away your catechism and read God's word in the bible alone. YOU need to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of God's word in the bible to you. I went to a catholic school and was brainwashed with this nonsense about confession until I started reading the bible and it became clear that we are totally forgiven when we come to Christ. AGAIN!!!! what you quote is taken out of context. Jesus wasn't giving the apostles power to forgive sin. You don't get it.
@cheesemonkey1990 The meaning obviously hasn't been revealed to you because you are comfortable believing your man made doctrine. Bottom line. If you feel you have to get forgiveness from some priest, then you don't believe Christ's work on the cross is complete.
@yourtubesteak "Jesus wasn't giving the apostles power to forgive sin. You don't get it..."
I know your heart is in the right place with this, but Christ has been forgiving sins through the ministry of the Church for 2000 years, since the first century. It is very well documented. Protestantism and its man-made doctrines (sola Scriptura, sola fide, etc.) weren't invented until the 1500's.
To advocate your position, you must first ask yourself, were the first 1,500 years of Christianity wrong?
I don't need to confess my sins to a priest. I was ETERNALLY forgiven at the cross. When Christ said "It is finished", He meant it. Paid in full. Besides, there is NO FORGIVENESS OF SINS without the shedding of blood. To keep asking for forgiveness when Christ already paid for your sins is to "trample on the blood of the covenant and make it an unholy thing". It shows a lack of faith in what Christ did at the cross. This is more unbiblical man made doctrine that contradicts the word of God.
@mandaloreJCL You recall wrong. You take the verse out of context. It refers to giving the people the good news of Salvation through Christ, and if they accept it their sins are forgiven, If they reject it they are not forgiven. How can you overlook what the bible teaches? "There is NO FORGIVENESS OF SIN without the shedding of blood". Only Christ can take our sin away and he did by the shedding of his blood and dying on the cross. Once that happened, there is no more forgiveness to be given.
@yourtubesteak if you're a protestant then you need to read the WHOLE Bible together, not one verse at a time. It says who's sins you (the apostles) forgive are forgiven. you need to read the context. You are out of context.Read 1 corr 11:27-28. i promise you he's talking about confession there. Now im going to school you on theandric action. Jesus is God. God is a divine being. Being divine means he is eternal. Being eternal means he transcends time. At communion we participate in the cross of
@mandaloreJCL Does the bible say or doesn't it that "there is NO forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood'? Who is shedding blood in the confession booth? Your sins were eternally forgiven at the cross. There is no more forgiveness to be given. You don't understand the new covenant. Christ was telling the apostles that whoever accepts the good news, THEIR sins are forgiven, and whoever rejects the good news, tell them their sins are retained. Hebrews tells us we are eternally forgiven.
@yourtubesteak That is nothing more than an excuse to keep on sinning. You protestants have no sense of personal responsibility or accountability. You are ignoring the fact that Jesus gave his disciples the authority to forgive sins. Answer my corrithians verse. Im telling you that paul is referring to confession in there.
@mandaloreJCL "You Protestants"? Who said I was a Protestant? You don't get it. Christ NEVER gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins. Just to spread the good news. Where is the shedding of blood? You keep ignoring the part about no forgiveness without the shedding of blood. Once you accept Christ you become a new creation. No true christian will use eternal forgiveness to deliberately live a sinful life. We will still fail, but that's what the bible means when it says to rest in faith.
@mandaloreJCL I already explained what Paul is saying but you want to live by your man made doctrines. You want to ignore the bible where it says "where these HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, not will be forgiven, HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, there is NO LONGER ANY NEED FOR SACRIFICE! It's faith in what Christ did at the cross that pleases God. You show no faith by constantly asking for forgiveness when it was given eternally once and for all at the cross just as Hebrews says.
@mandaloreJCL So you go ahead an keep trying to keep short accounts with God in your confession booth. I don't need it. I KNOW Christ took away my sins at the cross and they are gone from His eyes forever. I KNOW when I stand to be judged I will be clothed in Christ's righteousness and not stained by my sin because it was washed by His blood FOREVER. When Christ said 'It Is Finished" He meant it and all the work needed to forgive sin forever once and for all was completed at the cross.
@mandaloreJCL Confession is a catholic church man made doctrine that isn't biblical. The catholic church teaches many things that are not backed up by the bible like a place called purgatory, praying for the dead (pointless), that the bread and wine at mass are Christ's actual body and blood. When you keep asking for forgivness you show a lack of faith at what Christ did at the cross, and you "trample on the blood of the covenant and make it an unholy thing". Forgiveness is through Christ ALONE.
@yourtubesteak :i have given you two places already in the bible for confession. You have yet to answer the 1 corr verse. Next does the bible exclusively support the trinity? No, thats why Arianism was was so popular. And it is the teaching of the Catholic Church that forgiveness comes from God alone. As for Communion, read John 6, Matt, mrk and luke's last supper account and then read 1 corr 11. read them TOGETHER!
@mandaloreJCL You obviously don't understand what the new covenant means. When Christ said "it is finished", He meant it. Paid in full. It's over. Every time you ask Christ for forgiveness you are asking Him to get back up on that cross and get the daylights beat out of Him again. And I guess the part about "there is NO FORGIVENESS of sins without the SHEDDING OF BLOOD' is something you still don't get either. So just keep going through your pointless rituals. I KNOW I am ETERNALLY forgiven.
@mandaloreJCL And it's obvious that you haven't figured out that for those in Christ there is TOTAL eternal forgiveness and no more forgiveness is needed. You don't grasp what the new covenant means.
@mandaloreJCL Where the bible talks about confessing it is referring to confessing to your neighbor if you are guilty of something that caused a riff between the two of you. It calls on you to confess to your christian brother if you have offended him in order to patch up your relationship.Where it is Jesus is sure to forgive you if you confess you are a sinner, that is being preached to people who are LOST and haven't yet accepted Jesus as savior.There is only 1 sin that condemns.rejectingJesus
@yourtubesteak Why would christ give the apostles the power to forgive and retain sins? he did it in Johns account after the resurrection when he appeared to them.
@mandaloreJCL You didn't read what I already posted. Read the whole chapter in context. Jesus wasn't giving them the power to forgive sins. He was saying to tell those who are lost and accept the good news that their sins are now forgiven, and to those who reject the good news that their sins are retained and NOT forgiven. Christ already paid the TOTAL price for sin. There is NO MORE forgiveness to be given. There can be NO forgiveness without the shedding of blood.
@mandaloreJCL Again, that's why the bible says "WHERE THESE (sins) HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, there is no longer a need for a sacrifice (shedding of blood) for sin. You just don't get it. Why do you keep asking for something that you already have ETERNALLY when you come to Christ? This all tells me that you don't have faith and understand what Jesus did on the cross. He TOOK AWAY our sin. It's GONE from his eyes forever. There is nothing any longer to forgive for those is Christ. "It is FINISHED"!
@yourtubesteak :you're dodging, answer my question. Your beliefs sow me you dont have any trust in how God accomplishes things, you think it's not good enough hence you change everything up. answer my verse from John.
@mandaloreJCL I don't have trust? I have TOTAL trust that Christ took away ALL of my sins at the cross. You obviously think that he only took away some of your sins and YOU have to do something to get the rest of them forgiven. You don't get it that ALL of your sins means even the ones you haven't committed yet. I understand that ALL of my sins are gone from his eyes. What is there to keep asking for forgiveness for? NOTHING! He must be wondering why you keep asking for something youalreadyhave
@yourtubesteak quit dodging and answer my question. Why would Christ say to his apostles after the resurrection "receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive they are forgiven and whose sins you retain are retained" in order to receive the gift of the cross we must participate in it and allow it to transform us from the inside. Confession is one such means.
@mandaloreJCL I answered it in my above posts! The fact is Christ's work on the cross for our salvation is complete. There is NOTHING to add to it. But you want to add to it by keeping these short accounts with God every time you sin by running to a confession booth. It's like the jews of the old testament constantly trying to please God with their animal sacrifices. Then it hit me. YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE SAVED! That's why you insist on needing confession. I KNOW I was saved forever by Jesus.
@yourtubesteak You obviously dont listen. Why grant the apostles the authority which is exactly what he did.You also tend to ignore everything else, it is not about adding to Christ's works. It was done at the cross. but in order for the merits to be applied we must cooperate with it. Check out colossians 1:24.
@mandaloreJCL Jesus absolutely DID NOT give the apostles authority to forgive sin. You obviously don't understand the chapter. What part of "there is NO forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood" don't you understand? And "for the merits to be applied"? You are WAY brainwashed by man made catholic church doctrines. Once you accept Jesus as savior, you are forever washed. You trust in what HE did. There is nothing for you to do.Next you'll tell me you believe in a fairy tale like purgatory
@yourtubesteak Every Sunday, the Catholic faithfully recites the following in the Creed, "We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ. The only Son of God. Light from Light, True God from True God. Begotten, not made. One in being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, He came down from Heaven." And so on. So, based on your criteria, it seems Catholics are saved.
@yourtubesteak You are obviously brainwashed by man made protestant doctrines, which emerged in the 1600's. read the history books. He said whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven and whose sins you retain are retained. The reason he breathed on them and said receive the Holy Spirit was to grant them that authority. Explain why he would go through such an elaborate process.
@mandaloreJCL You need to go back a few chapters to understand that Jesus was preparing the apostles to go out and simply preach the good news to the lost and the meaning of that verse is that whoever accepts the gospel to assure them that their sins are forgiven, and whoever rejects it to assure them that their sins are retained. Do you actually believe that Jesus, who is God, and went through all that suffering for our sins to be taken away, is telling the apostles that they can save the lost?
@mandaloreJCL Do you think that the apostles can forgive someone's sins who refuses to accept Christ as savior?Because that's what you are saying. The apostles can decide who's sins are forgiven and who's are not. Sinners don't need Christ. All they need is for an apostle to tell them they are forgiven, and now they supposedly have salvation. Do you see how absurd that is? And you keep conveniently ignoring the part about no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood. Who's brainwashed?
@yourtubesteak no, you're the one conveniently forgetting what im saying and your adding stuff i didn't say. You need faith for salvation. It is in confession we are brought to the eternal merits of Christ's act on the cross. Get some knowledge in theology before you spout off whatever some ignorant fool in a suit tells you.Jesus is God, when he said to the apostles in Luke, he who hears you hears me, does this not sound like he is saying he is speaking through them, hence they forgive sins in
@mandaloreJCL his name, by his own authority, him being God can do that. Your willingness to change the faith shows your lack faith in Christ because his way is not your way. Im awaiting a reply to my colisians verse
@mandaloreJCL In confession we are brought to eternal merits??? Are you kidding? So you are putting your salvation in YOUR hands, based upon what YOU do, not Christ's death burial and resurrection ALONE. You feel you have to add to that. No point in continuing this. You just don't get it. We received TOTAL forgiveness at the cross through what Jesus did. That's it. He said "it is finished" and it is. It's your lack of faith in Christ alone that keeps you running to a confession booth.
@yourtubesteak no you don't get it. Technically you r putting ur salvation in ur own hands if you have to accept Jesus as lord and savior. It is not about what we do, it is simply the means by which God shares his grace with us. plain and simple.
@mandaloreJCL Jesus gave us grace ONCE. At the cross. Why do you want more grace? You: "forgive me Lord". Jesus:"I did". You: forgive me again Lord". Jesus: "Why? Like I said. I already did. Paid for your sins IN FULL". You: "forgive me Lord". Jesus: I told you. You are forgiven. Why do you keep asking me over and over for what I already gave you"? You: "Forgive me again Lord." Jesus: I guess what I did at the cross just isn't sinking in for you. I paid the price once and FOR ALL"!
@mandaloreJCL Why do you think the bible says there is NO CONDEMNATION for those in Christ? There is no condemnation because our sins are gone from his eyes, for him to NEVER remember them again.There is no reason to keep asking for forgiveness because there is nothing there any more to forgive! People who keep asking for forgiveness over and over show that they don't have enough faith to believe that Jesus took away our sins FOREVER at the cross. ALL of our sins. It's done. Over. Finished.
@yourtubesteak to be in Christ, means to not be in a state of mortal sin, we remove ourselves from Christ by our sins, hence we need him to bring us back into himself.
@mandaloreJCL Unbelievable. You definitely don't get it AT ALL. Mortal sin. Venial sin. More catholic church nonsense. We remove ourselves from Christ by our sin? You know NOTHING what the bible says about the new covenant. So according to you, you ask Jesus to be your savior and now you are forgiven. But wait! I just committed a sin. So now I am no longer forgiven. I have to get forgiveness again. Ok. Now I'm good again. OOPS! I sinned again so now I am back out of grace with the Lord!
@mandaloreJCL I have to go get forgiveness again in a confession booth. And so it goes for you. So what you are actually saying is, if you should commit a sin and don't get back to the confession booth before you die, you will end up in hell. You are clueless as to what Christ did on the cross. Clueless. For those who come to Him as savior, your sins are GONE FROM HIS EYES forever. AGAIN, "their sins and lawless acts I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE!!!
@mandaloreJCL You obviously don't believe that His blood washes us of ALL of our sins. The bible says, concerning the new covenant, that it is FAITH that please God. Faith in what? Faith in KNOWING that Jesus paid the FULL price for our sins and that there is NO SIN that can ever separate us from Him ever. The devil loves your constant doubt. You obviously are not even sure if you are saved. You need to stop listening to man made catholic doctrines and trust in the word of God in the bible.
@yourtubesteak you theology is flawed. To imply the once saved always saved is a fundamental contradiction of God's gift of free will. I will not know if i am saved until i die and God judges me. You need to accept responsibility for your own actions instead of throwing em aside saying it doesnt matter. Jesus in the gospels constantly talks about this. I am not saying we save ourselves but we constantly wonder away from God because of sin. Yo need to stop listening to any idiot in a suit that
@mandaloreJCL Wow. You know NOTHING of what the bible says about the new covenant through Christ. So you think that you just constantly fall in and out of salvation. YOU CANNOT OUT SIN THE GRACE OF GOD. You need to read Hebrews and let it sink in.Once you come to Christ there is NOTHING that can snatch you out of his hands. There is no sin that will make him turn his back on you.What a horrible feeling to not know if you are saved. I KNOW I am saved because Christ's word is good as gold.
@yourtubesteak do you not listen? Come to Christ, meaning once you are in heaven with him. Also, he does not turn his back on us when we sin, we are the ones turning our back to him.
@yourtubesteak Christ. In confession we participate in the forgiveness won by his victory on the cross. We son constantly so we must constantly recieve forgiveness but because he only died once he extends to us the forgiveness, won on the cross, many times. Through theandric action we receive that forgiveness of the one sacrifice as many times as we ask. God bless.
@mandaloreJCL You don't understand the new covenant. We DON'T need to constantly seek forgiveness. Hebrews tells us he paid the price for sin ONCE AND FOR ALL. "Where these HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, there is no longer any need for sacrifice", meaning the shedding of blood, without which there is NO forgiveness. People like you do what the bible says is to "trample on the blood of the covenant and make it an unholy thing". The sins you haven't even committed yet were already taken away at the cross.
@mandaloreJCL We must constantly receive forgiveness? You know NOTHING about what the new covenant means. It is a covenant of ETERNAL forgiveness. Jesus gave forgiveness to us ONCE. Eternally. At the cross. It's over. He's not going to offer us any more forgiveness because ALL sin has been dealt with at the cross FOREVER! If you don't know that when you come to Christ you are ETERNALLY forgiven then you know nothing about what the cross means. "IT IS FINISHED"! The blindness here is unbelievable
@yourtubesteak makes you feel warm & fuzzy about yourself b/c you are freed of responsibility in your own mind. Remember the parable of the talents and the servants? The talents represent faith, each servant had it but were JUDGED on what they did with it. Having it is not enough.Confession applies the eternal merits of the cross to us, because Christ's act was an eternal one,but we choose to leave it in our lives, hence confession allows us to go back and be forgiven. God is eternal, done.
@mandaloreJCL "Go back and be forgiven". Just how many times do you feel you need to be forgiven before you are ready for eternal life? Do you think that after walking out of a confession booth you are now MORE forgiven than when you first asked Jesus to be your savior? You just don't get it. You don't understand at all what Jesus did on the cross and it's FINALITY.
yes, HE will be BLessed Fulton Sheen in a few years. They are wrapping up the book review part this year and doing the miricles next. I know because my home town/ diocese is the one that opened his case! He was born in El Passo and grew up in Peoria.
A great man.
teresavivarium 3 months ago
Someone needs to read John 20:23.
s216674 8 months ago
@s216674 You need to read the whole chapter. Jesus was simply telling the apostles that when they see that someone has truly accepted Christ as savior, they could assure that person that their sins is truly forgiven eternally. NOWHERE in the bible does it say that ANYONE other than God can forgive sins, and that there is NO forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood.So if you want to try and EARN salvation by constantly going into a confession booth, go ahead. I was forgiven at the cross.
yourtubesteak 8 months ago
@yourtubesteak The writings of the Church fathers disagree with you. Your interpretation of scripture is not in line with what the first Christians believed and taught.
s216674 8 months ago
@s216674 Well, you can go by the word of church fathers. I'll go by the word of God in the bible. When Christ said "it is finished", he meant it. In Hebrews where it says Christ paid for ALL of our sin ONCE AND FOR ALL, that's something you can take to the bank. But if you want to believe the words of men over the word of God, that's your choice.
yourtubesteak 8 months ago
@s216674 Someone needs to go a couple chapters earlier in order to understand what is being said later.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak Nice try. I've read it, multiple times. You can deny all you like. You can ignore what all of the first Christians said and even what Christ himself taught. As for me, I will hold to the Faith.
s216674 2 months ago
@s216674 What faith. It's obviously not in Jesus and what He did on the cross. You don't know what you are talking about if you think Jesus said you have to keep asking for forgiveness. You don't understand that when Jesus was ALIVE he may have referred to the old jewish law on occasion. What is a testament as in last will and testament. It doesn't go into effect until someone dies. When Jesus died on the cross, the NEW TESTAMENT or covenant went into effect. Total forgiveness.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@s216674 No point in continuing this conversation. You can believe your man made catholic church doctrines. I will trust in what GOD'S word says. "Where these HAVE BEEN forgiven, there is no longer a need for a sacrifice for sins". By you running over and over to a confession booth, you are like the jews of the old law. Oops! I sinned. I have to kill a goat or bull to cover my sins. OK. Now I'm good. Oops. I sinned again. I have to kill another bull or goat. OK. My sins are covered again.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@s216674 By constantly asking for forgiveness, you equate the blood of Christ with the blood of a bull or goat. Killing an animal and shedding it's blood just covered your sins until you sinned again. When Christ shed His blood, he TOOK OUR SINS AWAY. Sin is gone. It has been judged and payed for in full. You are just too thick to get this into your head and insist on clinging to your man made doctrines.You can explain to Jesus someday why you didn't fully trust in his sacrifice alone. Bye bye.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak the sacrifice of calvary is indeed infinite, but is it not true that when you offend a loved one you apologize and make up with them? The Graces of Confession include among others, the remission of guilt due to sin, the assurance of forgiveness (which can only be given by the appointed by God "Receive the Holy spirit, who's sins you forgive are forgiven, who's sins you retain are retained) and the graces to not commit the sin again.
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 I don't feel guilt. If you feel guilty, you are giving in to the devil who wants you to doubt that you are forgiven. I don't need assurance of forgiveness. I KNOW I am forgiven. And as for that verse you quote, I have explained that too many times to repeat. You take it out of context. It certainly does NOT mean the Jesus gave the apostles the power to forgive sins. When is it going to sink in that there is no forgiveness of sin without the SHEDDING OF BLOOD!
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak How do you know you are firgiven? Unless a God appointed minister (ie priest or Bishop) pours the Blood on your soul you are only practixing presumption, which is a form of the UNFORGIVABLE sin against the Holy Spirit! READ THE BIBLE!!!!
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 How do I know I'm forgiven? Why do you think Christ went to the cross? To pay the debt for SOME of our sin? You think that after you accept Christ as savior He turns his back on you if you sin again? YOU are the one who needs to read the bible. You must have missed the part where it says, where these (sins) HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN (past tense) there is no longer a need for a sacrifice for sin. Why do you think Jesus said just before he died on the cross "It is FINISHED".
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 You are so brainwashed by man made doctrines. You really think that you can fall in and out of salvation once you have accepted Christ as savior? Jesus even said there is only one unforgivable sin, and that is the rejection of him as savior. The new covenant is a covenant of TOTAL FORGIVENESS. HE bought our salvation and did EVERYTHING necessary to save us, but you want to add to what he did through your man made doctrines. You just don't get it. You can't out sin God's grace.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak The Catholic Church is the church founded by Jesus 2000 years ago. I have not said to you anything that is not straight out of the Bible. You can't legitamatley refute my arguments so you attack my person instead. This just goes to show your ignorance of the Bible and Christ himself.
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 The catholic church was founded by Christ????? Your brainwashing is complete. No point in continuing this conversation. NO WHERE in the bible can you back up that statement. Jesus didn't found ANY denomination. Did Jesus preach about a mythical place called purgatory? Did Jesus establish all the so called "sacraments'? I could go on and on. All MAN MADE doctrines. There are numerous catholic doctrines that flat out contradict the bible.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 You keep going to confession to try and get your sins forgiven by some man. I'll "rest in faith" in what Jesus did for me ETERNALLY at the cross. They wages of sin are death. Jesus paid the wages. IN FULL. "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember NO MORE". How much plainer can it be. His shed blood and death prepared us for what he came to give us. Life eternal. You are dead spiritually until you come to Christ as savior and trust in HIM alone. You obviously don't.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak You don't get it, Jesus gave the power to forgive IN HIS NAME to his Apostles. Also: the confession of sins can be see in the old testament as people were required to CONFESS their sins to the levites, after which they would prescribe an animal for sacrifice. It is truwe that with out the blood of Christ there can be no remission of sins, but the means of comminicating that Grace is the sacrament of confession.
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 No Jesus did NOT give the apostles the power to forgive sin. No shedding of blood, no forgiveness. Jesus already took care of the forgiveness of sin at the cross. Forever. You obviously haven't read the whole chapter and taken that verse in context, but then again I wouldn't expect you to understand when you make a statement like Jesus founded the catholic church. Absolutely no point in talking about this anymore. You depend on your man made doctrines. I trust in Jesus alone.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak Receive the Holy Spirit, who's sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Who's sins you retain, they are retained." Yes he did. Plain and simple
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 You need to put away your catechism and read God's word in the bible alone. YOU need to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of God's word in the bible to you. I went to a catholic school and was brainwashed with this nonsense about confession until I started reading the bible and it became clear that we are totally forgiven when we come to Christ. AGAIN!!!! what you quote is taken out of context. Jesus wasn't giving the apostles power to forgive sin. You don't get it.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak 1: prove solo scriptura to me
2: my reasaons for believeing in confession ARE BIBLICAL. READ JOHN'S GOSPLE!!!!
cheesemonkey1990 1 month ago
@cheesemonkey1990 The meaning obviously hasn't been revealed to you because you are comfortable believing your man made doctrine. Bottom line. If you feel you have to get forgiveness from some priest, then you don't believe Christ's work on the cross is complete.
yourtubesteak 1 month ago
@yourtubesteak I am directly quoting the Bible to you. You are the dilluded one here, not me.
cheesemonkey1990 1 month ago
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@cheesemonkey1990 You can quote it all you want. You obviously don't understand it.
yourtubesteak 1 month ago
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baguazhang77 1 month ago
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@yourtubesteak "Jesus wasn't giving the apostles power to forgive sin. You don't get it..."
I know your heart is in the right place with this, but Christ has been forgiving sins through the ministry of the Church for 2000 years, since the first century. It is very well documented. Protestantism and its man-made doctrines (sola Scriptura, sola fide, etc.) weren't invented until the 1500's.
To advocate your position, you must first ask yourself, were the first 1,500 years of Christianity wrong?
baguazhang77 1 month ago
@s216674 You obviously don't understand God's word in the bible or what the new covenant really means.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
yup you are right Bishop Fulton, indeed shakespeare existed in 1564-1616. Such an amazing memory!
279cute 10 months ago
I don't need to confess my sins to a priest. I was ETERNALLY forgiven at the cross. When Christ said "It is finished", He meant it. Paid in full. Besides, there is NO FORGIVENESS OF SINS without the shedding of blood. To keep asking for forgiveness when Christ already paid for your sins is to "trample on the blood of the covenant and make it an unholy thing". It shows a lack of faith in what Christ did at the cross. This is more unbiblical man made doctrine that contradicts the word of God.
yourtubesteak 10 months ago
@yourtubesteak I recall Christ giving the apostles the authority to forgive sins in John 20:22-23.
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL You recall wrong. You take the verse out of context. It refers to giving the people the good news of Salvation through Christ, and if they accept it their sins are forgiven, If they reject it they are not forgiven. How can you overlook what the bible teaches? "There is NO FORGIVENESS OF SIN without the shedding of blood". Only Christ can take our sin away and he did by the shedding of his blood and dying on the cross. Once that happened, there is no more forgiveness to be given.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@yourtubesteak if you're a protestant then you need to read the WHOLE Bible together, not one verse at a time. It says who's sins you (the apostles) forgive are forgiven. you need to read the context. You are out of context.Read 1 corr 11:27-28. i promise you he's talking about confession there. Now im going to school you on theandric action. Jesus is God. God is a divine being. Being divine means he is eternal. Being eternal means he transcends time. At communion we participate in the cross of
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Does the bible say or doesn't it that "there is NO forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood'? Who is shedding blood in the confession booth? Your sins were eternally forgiven at the cross. There is no more forgiveness to be given. You don't understand the new covenant. Christ was telling the apostles that whoever accepts the good news, THEIR sins are forgiven, and whoever rejects the good news, tell them their sins are retained. Hebrews tells us we are eternally forgiven.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@yourtubesteak That is nothing more than an excuse to keep on sinning. You protestants have no sense of personal responsibility or accountability. You are ignoring the fact that Jesus gave his disciples the authority to forgive sins. Answer my corrithians verse. Im telling you that paul is referring to confession in there.
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL "You Protestants"? Who said I was a Protestant? You don't get it. Christ NEVER gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins. Just to spread the good news. Where is the shedding of blood? You keep ignoring the part about no forgiveness without the shedding of blood. Once you accept Christ you become a new creation. No true christian will use eternal forgiveness to deliberately live a sinful life. We will still fail, but that's what the bible means when it says to rest in faith.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL I already explained what Paul is saying but you want to live by your man made doctrines. You want to ignore the bible where it says "where these HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, not will be forgiven, HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, there is NO LONGER ANY NEED FOR SACRIFICE! It's faith in what Christ did at the cross that pleases God. You show no faith by constantly asking for forgiveness when it was given eternally once and for all at the cross just as Hebrews says.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL So you go ahead an keep trying to keep short accounts with God in your confession booth. I don't need it. I KNOW Christ took away my sins at the cross and they are gone from His eyes forever. I KNOW when I stand to be judged I will be clothed in Christ's righteousness and not stained by my sin because it was washed by His blood FOREVER. When Christ said 'It Is Finished" He meant it and all the work needed to forgive sin forever once and for all was completed at the cross.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Confession is a catholic church man made doctrine that isn't biblical. The catholic church teaches many things that are not backed up by the bible like a place called purgatory, praying for the dead (pointless), that the bread and wine at mass are Christ's actual body and blood. When you keep asking for forgivness you show a lack of faith at what Christ did at the cross, and you "trample on the blood of the covenant and make it an unholy thing". Forgiveness is through Christ ALONE.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@yourtubesteak :i have given you two places already in the bible for confession. You have yet to answer the 1 corr verse. Next does the bible exclusively support the trinity? No, thats why Arianism was was so popular. And it is the teaching of the Catholic Church that forgiveness comes from God alone. As for Communion, read John 6, Matt, mrk and luke's last supper account and then read 1 corr 11. read them TOGETHER!
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL You obviously don't understand what the new covenant means. When Christ said "it is finished", He meant it. Paid in full. It's over. Every time you ask Christ for forgiveness you are asking Him to get back up on that cross and get the daylights beat out of Him again. And I guess the part about "there is NO FORGIVENESS of sins without the SHEDDING OF BLOOD' is something you still don't get either. So just keep going through your pointless rituals. I KNOW I am ETERNALLY forgiven.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@yourtubesteak It's obvious that Theandric action is something beyond you.
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL And it's obvious that you haven't figured out that for those in Christ there is TOTAL eternal forgiveness and no more forgiveness is needed. You don't grasp what the new covenant means.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Where the bible talks about confessing it is referring to confessing to your neighbor if you are guilty of something that caused a riff between the two of you. It calls on you to confess to your christian brother if you have offended him in order to patch up your relationship.Where it is Jesus is sure to forgive you if you confess you are a sinner, that is being preached to people who are LOST and haven't yet accepted Jesus as savior.There is only 1 sin that condemns.rejectingJesus
yourtubesteak 3 months ago
@yourtubesteak Why would christ give the apostles the power to forgive and retain sins? he did it in Johns account after the resurrection when he appeared to them.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL You didn't read what I already posted. Read the whole chapter in context. Jesus wasn't giving them the power to forgive sins. He was saying to tell those who are lost and accept the good news that their sins are now forgiven, and to those who reject the good news that their sins are retained and NOT forgiven. Christ already paid the TOTAL price for sin. There is NO MORE forgiveness to be given. There can be NO forgiveness without the shedding of blood.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Again, that's why the bible says "WHERE THESE (sins) HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, there is no longer a need for a sacrifice (shedding of blood) for sin. You just don't get it. Why do you keep asking for something that you already have ETERNALLY when you come to Christ? This all tells me that you don't have faith and understand what Jesus did on the cross. He TOOK AWAY our sin. It's GONE from his eyes forever. There is nothing any longer to forgive for those is Christ. "It is FINISHED"!
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak :you're dodging, answer my question. Your beliefs sow me you dont have any trust in how God accomplishes things, you think it's not good enough hence you change everything up. answer my verse from John.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL I don't have trust? I have TOTAL trust that Christ took away ALL of my sins at the cross. You obviously think that he only took away some of your sins and YOU have to do something to get the rest of them forgiven. You don't get it that ALL of your sins means even the ones you haven't committed yet. I understand that ALL of my sins are gone from his eyes. What is there to keep asking for forgiveness for? NOTHING! He must be wondering why you keep asking for something youalreadyhave
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak quit dodging and answer my question. Why would Christ say to his apostles after the resurrection "receive the Holy Spirit, whose sins you forgive they are forgiven and whose sins you retain are retained" in order to receive the gift of the cross we must participate in it and allow it to transform us from the inside. Confession is one such means.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL I answered it in my above posts! The fact is Christ's work on the cross for our salvation is complete. There is NOTHING to add to it. But you want to add to it by keeping these short accounts with God every time you sin by running to a confession booth. It's like the jews of the old testament constantly trying to please God with their animal sacrifices. Then it hit me. YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE SAVED! That's why you insist on needing confession. I KNOW I was saved forever by Jesus.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak You obviously dont listen. Why grant the apostles the authority which is exactly what he did.You also tend to ignore everything else, it is not about adding to Christ's works. It was done at the cross. but in order for the merits to be applied we must cooperate with it. Check out colossians 1:24.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Jesus absolutely DID NOT give the apostles authority to forgive sin. You obviously don't understand the chapter. What part of "there is NO forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood" don't you understand? And "for the merits to be applied"? You are WAY brainwashed by man made catholic church doctrines. Once you accept Jesus as savior, you are forever washed. You trust in what HE did. There is nothing for you to do.Next you'll tell me you believe in a fairy tale like purgatory
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
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@yourtubesteak Every Sunday, the Catholic faithfully recites the following in the Creed, "We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ. The only Son of God. Light from Light, True God from True God. Begotten, not made. One in being with the Father. Through Him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, He came down from Heaven." And so on. So, based on your criteria, it seems Catholics are saved.
NYCZ31 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak You are obviously brainwashed by man made protestant doctrines, which emerged in the 1600's. read the history books. He said whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven and whose sins you retain are retained. The reason he breathed on them and said receive the Holy Spirit was to grant them that authority. Explain why he would go through such an elaborate process.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL You need to go back a few chapters to understand that Jesus was preparing the apostles to go out and simply preach the good news to the lost and the meaning of that verse is that whoever accepts the gospel to assure them that their sins are forgiven, and whoever rejects it to assure them that their sins are retained. Do you actually believe that Jesus, who is God, and went through all that suffering for our sins to be taken away, is telling the apostles that they can save the lost?
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak no reply to my colisians verse? coward.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Do you think that the apostles can forgive someone's sins who refuses to accept Christ as savior?Because that's what you are saying. The apostles can decide who's sins are forgiven and who's are not. Sinners don't need Christ. All they need is for an apostle to tell them they are forgiven, and now they supposedly have salvation. Do you see how absurd that is? And you keep conveniently ignoring the part about no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood. Who's brainwashed?
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak no, you're the one conveniently forgetting what im saying and your adding stuff i didn't say. You need faith for salvation. It is in confession we are brought to the eternal merits of Christ's act on the cross. Get some knowledge in theology before you spout off whatever some ignorant fool in a suit tells you.Jesus is God, when he said to the apostles in Luke, he who hears you hears me, does this not sound like he is saying he is speaking through them, hence they forgive sins in
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL his name, by his own authority, him being God can do that. Your willingness to change the faith shows your lack faith in Christ because his way is not your way. Im awaiting a reply to my colisians verse
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL In confession we are brought to eternal merits??? Are you kidding? So you are putting your salvation in YOUR hands, based upon what YOU do, not Christ's death burial and resurrection ALONE. You feel you have to add to that. No point in continuing this. You just don't get it. We received TOTAL forgiveness at the cross through what Jesus did. That's it. He said "it is finished" and it is. It's your lack of faith in Christ alone that keeps you running to a confession booth.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak no you don't get it. Technically you r putting ur salvation in ur own hands if you have to accept Jesus as lord and savior. It is not about what we do, it is simply the means by which God shares his grace with us. plain and simple.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Jesus gave us grace ONCE. At the cross. Why do you want more grace? You: "forgive me Lord". Jesus:"I did". You: forgive me again Lord". Jesus: "Why? Like I said. I already did. Paid for your sins IN FULL". You: "forgive me Lord". Jesus: I told you. You are forgiven. Why do you keep asking me over and over for what I already gave you"? You: "Forgive me again Lord." Jesus: I guess what I did at the cross just isn't sinking in for you. I paid the price once and FOR ALL"!
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Why do you think the bible says there is NO CONDEMNATION for those in Christ? There is no condemnation because our sins are gone from his eyes, for him to NEVER remember them again.There is no reason to keep asking for forgiveness because there is nothing there any more to forgive! People who keep asking for forgiveness over and over show that they don't have enough faith to believe that Jesus took away our sins FOREVER at the cross. ALL of our sins. It's done. Over. Finished.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak to be in Christ, means to not be in a state of mortal sin, we remove ourselves from Christ by our sins, hence we need him to bring us back into himself.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Unbelievable. You definitely don't get it AT ALL. Mortal sin. Venial sin. More catholic church nonsense. We remove ourselves from Christ by our sin? You know NOTHING what the bible says about the new covenant. So according to you, you ask Jesus to be your savior and now you are forgiven. But wait! I just committed a sin. So now I am no longer forgiven. I have to get forgiveness again. Ok. Now I'm good again. OOPS! I sinned again so now I am back out of grace with the Lord!
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL I have to go get forgiveness again in a confession booth. And so it goes for you. So what you are actually saying is, if you should commit a sin and don't get back to the confession booth before you die, you will end up in hell. You are clueless as to what Christ did on the cross. Clueless. For those who come to Him as savior, your sins are GONE FROM HIS EYES forever. AGAIN, "their sins and lawless acts I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE!!!
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL You obviously don't believe that His blood washes us of ALL of our sins. The bible says, concerning the new covenant, that it is FAITH that please God. Faith in what? Faith in KNOWING that Jesus paid the FULL price for our sins and that there is NO SIN that can ever separate us from Him ever. The devil loves your constant doubt. You obviously are not even sure if you are saved. You need to stop listening to man made catholic doctrines and trust in the word of God in the bible.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak you theology is flawed. To imply the once saved always saved is a fundamental contradiction of God's gift of free will. I will not know if i am saved until i die and God judges me. You need to accept responsibility for your own actions instead of throwing em aside saying it doesnt matter. Jesus in the gospels constantly talks about this. I am not saying we save ourselves but we constantly wonder away from God because of sin. Yo need to stop listening to any idiot in a suit that
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Wow. You know NOTHING of what the bible says about the new covenant through Christ. So you think that you just constantly fall in and out of salvation. YOU CANNOT OUT SIN THE GRACE OF GOD. You need to read Hebrews and let it sink in.Once you come to Christ there is NOTHING that can snatch you out of his hands. There is no sin that will make him turn his back on you.What a horrible feeling to not know if you are saved. I KNOW I am saved because Christ's word is good as gold.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak do you not listen? Come to Christ, meaning once you are in heaven with him. Also, he does not turn his back on us when we sin, we are the ones turning our back to him.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
@mandaloreJCL Come to Christ, meaning when you accept him as savior.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak Christ. In confession we participate in the forgiveness won by his victory on the cross. We son constantly so we must constantly recieve forgiveness but because he only died once he extends to us the forgiveness, won on the cross, many times. Through theandric action we receive that forgiveness of the one sacrifice as many times as we ask. God bless.
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL typo i meant sin not son
mandaloreJCL 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL You don't understand the new covenant. We DON'T need to constantly seek forgiveness. Hebrews tells us he paid the price for sin ONCE AND FOR ALL. "Where these HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, there is no longer any need for sacrifice", meaning the shedding of blood, without which there is NO forgiveness. People like you do what the bible says is to "trample on the blood of the covenant and make it an unholy thing". The sins you haven't even committed yet were already taken away at the cross.
yourtubesteak 9 months ago
@mandaloreJCL We must constantly receive forgiveness? You know NOTHING about what the new covenant means. It is a covenant of ETERNAL forgiveness. Jesus gave forgiveness to us ONCE. Eternally. At the cross. It's over. He's not going to offer us any more forgiveness because ALL sin has been dealt with at the cross FOREVER! If you don't know that when you come to Christ you are ETERNALLY forgiven then you know nothing about what the cross means. "IT IS FINISHED"! The blindness here is unbelievable
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak makes you feel warm & fuzzy about yourself b/c you are freed of responsibility in your own mind. Remember the parable of the talents and the servants? The talents represent faith, each servant had it but were JUDGED on what they did with it. Having it is not enough.Confession applies the eternal merits of the cross to us, because Christ's act was an eternal one,but we choose to leave it in our lives, hence confession allows us to go back and be forgiven. God is eternal, done.
mandaloreJCL 2 months ago
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@mandaloreJCL "Go back and be forgiven". Just how many times do you feel you need to be forgiven before you are ready for eternal life? Do you think that after walking out of a confession booth you are now MORE forgiven than when you first asked Jesus to be your savior? You just don't get it. You don't understand at all what Jesus did on the cross and it's FINALITY.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
This man shows the awesome power of a Priest.Dear Bishop sheen please
Pray for us
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sabithaperera 1 year ago
No, he is Double Mega Awesome, soon to be recognized as a Saint.
74ewtn 1 year ago
Réquiem ætérnam dona ei, Dómine, et lux perpétua lúceat ei.
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May I live long enough to see this beloved man canonized.
rosarykat 1 year ago
Boy He talks well!
ve2so 1 year ago
A good man, God bless him!
dukeofbute 1 year ago 2
Bishop Sheen is AWESOME!!!
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago 12
no he is mega awesome
WizArdOZfan42 2 years ago 12
yes, HE will be BLessed Fulton Sheen in a few years. They are wrapping up the book review part this year and doing the miricles next. I know because my home town/ diocese is the one that opened his case! He was born in El Passo and grew up in Peoria.
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago 2
@cheesemonkey1990 go to bed - watch Krishnamurti.
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