The Z film gets really weird around the head shot. First, the limo is at the extreme bottom of the frame at this critical time. Then at 331 the President's head gets very distorted while the rest of the foreground is moderately distorted and the background hardly at all. At 332 the car lurches back into the frame, presumably because of camera shake. Then at 333 the picture zooms out and it's not just the motion of the car, the background recedes, too. Look at the two guys on the grass.
@SaintlyOswald 333 zooms out. 334 goes by. 335 zooms out again. And then it looks normal again. 337 and 339 also zoom out a bit. It's as if it's being eased out from having been zoomed to be cropped in the "kill zone." 341 and 350, on my version at least, have some clumsy-looking fill on the side of the car, and 345 has a strange bottom frame edge.
@SaintlyOswald What I'm seeing frame to frame seems to disappear in a stabilized and centered video of the sequence. Maybe it's just a trick of angles and camera motion.
@asgerwille As for the ballistics test. To put faith in that, one has to put faith in Hoover. And in my opinion, Hoover had his own dog in this fight. Look at Hoover's birth date and compare it to the mandatory retirement age. Again in my opinion, there is no way in hell that Bobby would have allowed this to be extended. By the way, pull up a photo of the shirt John was wearing. I can 't make a shot from behind and above work.
@conspiracydog11 Well, this is where we move in to the aforementioned catch 22-area. If one finds evidence, it is rejected on the notion that it's manufactured by the conspirators. In this case Hoover. But the case against the evidence is based on a notion, on conjecture and it's all circumstantial. There could be a million reasons that Hoover's time at the FBI was extended. It's not proof of anything. Nothing whatsoever. Still, it's considered proof against the ballistics test.
@asgerwille You are absolutely correct and there is no evidence that Hoover was involved in anything. Also the bullet probably did come from that Carcano.
@conspiracydog11 Well, I think you really hit on one of the basics in this discussion right there. While I absolutely agree, that feelings have to be the basis of many things, I believe that investigations like this are not among those things. I actually believe quite the contrary. Otherwise one moves in to uncertain territory where injustice rules.
@asgerwille In my mind one of the most important aspects of our little drama is the fact that when looking at a photo of the shirt John was wearing, bearing in mind that he was wearing a full back brace which would have prevented the shirt from "bunching up", the angles for a shot from behind and high above just don't work.
@asgerwille Sure, John was wearing a full back brace under his jacket. This would have prevented his shirt from riding up on his back completely. If you look at an image of the shirt he was wearing with the position of the bullet hole marked you realize that for a shot to enter at this point and exit through his throat from a high angle is impossible.
@conspiracydog11 I am aware of the back brace, but I don't quite understand, why that would have prevented his shirt from moving.
If one studies the picture taken just seconds before the shots, it's clear that JFK's jacket bunches up in the back. There are actually a great essay on this exact discussion over at mcadams. There are a lot of great photos.
@asgerwille I have tried to find out if John put the brace, which was a girdle like contraption, on over his shirt or under it. If it was over the shirt than the shirt could not have moved at all. I have not had much luck in this effort. Thank you for the mcadams tip.
@asgerwille I am sorry but there were no eyewitnesses that placed Lee in that window. But the kids in the jail across the street told some interesting stories although none of them were ever interviewed by authorities.
(If you do have a name of witnesses please tell me.)
@conspiracydog11 Actually more than one identified a single man in the window. The most important eyewitness Howard L. Brennan saw Lee in the window and identified him later that night (november 22nd) in a police lineup. Brennan was on the concrete wall on the southwest corner of Elm and Houston. Just opposite of the TSBD. He's mentioned several times in the Warren report. E.g. on page 143.
@asgerwille That line up you are referring to was how can I say this? Fixed might be the right word and even then Mr. Brennan was unable to make a positive identification.
@conspiracydog11 Well, there's no proof of a fixed line up. And the argument is kind of absurd. The line up is fixed, but even so the witness isn't able to point out Oswald to the degree of a positive identification. When needed the conspirators have apparently been able to keep a HUGE murder plot secret. But they can't produce witnesses who can identify Oswald? Come on...
@asgerwille Actually, if I have my facts straight, I think that Lee had a badly bruised eye and was wearing a torn white tee shirt. The others in the line up were court officers and detectives. They were much better dressed than Lee and just looked neat. In my opinion the line up was not proper.
@conspiracydog11 Well, this would of course be a problem. I agree! His eye was bruised, that's a fact. I don't know about the clothes. But you're right in stating that this would compromise the validity.
Nevertheless all witnesses did point out Oswald. That also goes for the witnesses from the Tippit shooting. I acknowledge that killing Tippit doesn't mean, that Oswald killed JFK. But he carried the gun that fired the bullets into Tippit's body, he owned the Carcano, and his prints were on it.
@conspiracydog11 Well, the gun that fired the shots was used by Oswald when he tried to fire it at the police officers in the Texas theater. The bullets were fired from that gun to the exclusion of every other gun.
@asgerwille Actually, if I have my facts correct, 4 bullets were recovered from Tippit but none could be positively identified as being fired from Lee's handgun. This handgun was a .38 which had been converted to a .38 special which caused a lot of problems with the testing of the bullets. I sometimes wonder if someone had not expected Lee to have that hidden handgun in his possession.
@conspiracydog11 Actually, you're right! I wasn't precise. The four cartridges found close to the Tippit body were from the gun to the exclusion of every other gun. You're right about the problems with the testing of the bullets. One of the experts testified that one of the bullets came from the gun for sure. The other only said that they could have been fired from it.
@asgerwille (Earl Crater of the Pig and Whistle restaurant said that LHO, Ruby and Tippit had breakfast there on a number of occasions at 7:00 A.M. Crater said that LHO never had more then a cup of coffee.) I just found this statement on the net. I wonder if it could be true.
@conspiracydog11 Yes, I've come across this statement before. Unfortunately, I've only seen Earl Crater mentioned in connection with this statement and only on, for lack of a better word, conspiracy web sites. It's (almost) always written in the way, your quote is written. I'm a college history teacher, and to me that suggest, that there is only a single source behind that claim. And I can't find that source anywhere. Have you found it?
@asgerwille I had an idea you were a teacher. I actually love history but being from a poor part of the South I was lucky I was able to finish high school, although I did find a wonderful partner and we have done rather well.
Spartacus Educational has a great section on JFK and Tippit who I think should have had his life looked into more closely by the Warren Commission.
@conspiracydog11 Hi again! Sorry, I've been snowed under for some days now - with work, not literally ;)
I drove across the states last year - from N.Y. to SF - and spent some time in the southern part. May I ask which state you are from? It's lovely to hear, that things worked out even if you may have begun your life in conditions that didn't make education easy. You have obviously read in to this subject. Have you ever studied history - perhaps in evening school (does that make sense?)
@asgerwille I hope you had a good trip, the U.S. is big and diverse. I am from a little town in the Western North Carolina mountains. It is a beautiful place but hard to make a living. I still live in NC but in a little more affluent part of the state. I have studied a lot of history on my own but some from a Erich von Däniken point of view. Pumapunku comes to mind.
@asgerwille I seem to remember reading somewhere that JD was an expert marksman in the military. By the way I have always admired the stand you guys put up against the Red's. Blocking both ends of a convoy moving through a snowy forest and attacking the center was brilliant and effective.
@conspiracydog11 Oh, I really wish that was us. But that was Finland. They put in an amazing resistance, when the Soviets attacked them. I'm danish, and our resistance history isn't something to brag about. At least we have been active the last ten years.
haveing study this case i feel i should point out a few mistakes you might not have picked up on ,as a photographer with a degree in photography i would say most if not all kennedy photographs have been manufactured and are nor real photographs most of the films from love feeled to parkland have been altered in some way or anothe i do strongly belive thwe oswald assasination was a staged event and not live ,the us millitery were useing vidio tape as far back as 1948 the z film is fake and on an
@SuperBandstand It's a known fact that the FBI had possession of photographs and film of the attack but they could not be sure that they had it all at that time. I would not believe that alterations or manufacturing would have taken place other than 'cut and shut' editing (maybe at most) because they knew anything that would appear out of the woodwork even years later from any source could prove to discredit and therefore add to any conspiracy theories.
@TheCrossroads09 ive been studying the oswold assasination and i can see lots of proof that this was not live t v....even the swaring in of lbj on airforce one i would say are faked....if you tap in jfk google search and study the kennedy photographs most have been retoutched .dont underestimate what they could and could nt do ,the lee harvey oswold mug shot is faked ,its very easy back then to graph a face on to somebody eles body they did it with ab lincon fakeing political images go s back..
@conspiracydog11 I am sure there are a lot of things that can be said of the Warren Report, that are both valid and problematic. But I do believe that most of the fundamental findings regarding the physical evidence are correct.
Even if one takes a skeptical stand - which a lot of people obviously do - it is important to remember, that the HSCA came to the same conclusion. With the exception of the famous "4th shot"-sound, which has since been widely criticized.
@asgerwille But the thing is, after almost 50 years, no one has ever placed Lee in that window with that weapon beyond a reasonable doubt. And with Lee being friends with George de Mohrenschildt who was also friends with Jackie and her family and a certain future president. Well colour me unconvinced. I know its a small world but not that bloody small.
CE 399 So called single bullet theory with the assumption it was fired fron that 6th floor TBSD window is flawed with my own eyesight of the location and I do assume bullets travel generally in straight lines. Stand on the 'X' spot on Elm where JFK was hit first at the back of the neck and my first thought of the Warren report was "b______t"!
Well, I've also been to Dealey Plaza, and I have also stood on the X spot, and there were absolutely no hindrance between me and a bullet from the window on the sixth floor. Now, this is not proof of ANYTHING - Nor are your thoughts.
@asgerwilleMy point was that the angle seems too high in relation to the injuries to JFK/ Connally, absolutely no proof but a gut sense of that angle all things considered.Exactly what I'm looking for .'the proof' not the 'most likely'.We can all read the report,but another video clip Bob has here with LBJ being interviewed in the late 60'sdoes not make me feel any more confident. Why would President LBJ even suggest international involvement, where did his doubt come from or was it more deceit?
@TheCrossroads09 I do find it amazing, that most of the conpiracy crowd in here have never read the Warren report. You stand on an X and immediately dismiss both the Warren report and the HSCA - two of the most thorough investigations on the subject - They both concluded that Oswald killed JFK.
Having more than one shooter whether it be from the Daltex Building or the stormwater drain on Elm could provide the links to the people in power at that location at that time. The notion that government members such as Connally and LBJ were knowledgeable of an attack would have implications to this day and maybe why the further unfolding of evidence using technology is snuffed out by the powers that be??
@TheCrossroads09 I absolutely agree with the fact that it could have implications - even today - if people in power had knowledge of an attack. But this is all speculation, and it is kept alive by the "catch 22"-nature of the idea. If the government, the FBI, the CIA (the list can easily be continued) were involved, it would be kept secret and cannot be proven. And therefore one would always be able to accuse the official investigations of being wrong without having to put forth a coherent
The Z film gets really weird around the head shot. First, the limo is at the extreme bottom of the frame at this critical time. Then at 331 the President's head gets very distorted while the rest of the foreground is moderately distorted and the background hardly at all. At 332 the car lurches back into the frame, presumably because of camera shake. Then at 333 the picture zooms out and it's not just the motion of the car, the background recedes, too. Look at the two guys on the grass.
SaintlyOswald 2 weeks ago
@SaintlyOswald 333 zooms out. 334 goes by. 335 zooms out again. And then it looks normal again. 337 and 339 also zoom out a bit. It's as if it's being eased out from having been zoomed to be cropped in the "kill zone." 341 and 350, on my version at least, have some clumsy-looking fill on the side of the car, and 345 has a strange bottom frame edge.
SaintlyOswald 2 weeks ago
@SaintlyOswald What I'm seeing frame to frame seems to disappear in a stabilized and centered video of the sequence. Maybe it's just a trick of angles and camera motion.
SaintlyOswald 2 weeks ago
Bob please answer me this question: so are you saying that they were thwo headshots?
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I submit at frame 337 You can see Jackie looking into the wound, as she herself described.
jvs257 5 months ago
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conspiracydog11 5 months ago
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conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@asgerwille As for the ballistics test. To put faith in that, one has to put faith in Hoover. And in my opinion, Hoover had his own dog in this fight. Look at Hoover's birth date and compare it to the mandatory retirement age. Again in my opinion, there is no way in hell that Bobby would have allowed this to be extended. By the way, pull up a photo of the shirt John was wearing. I can 't make a shot from behind and above work.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Well, this is where we move in to the aforementioned catch 22-area. If one finds evidence, it is rejected on the notion that it's manufactured by the conspirators. In this case Hoover. But the case against the evidence is based on a notion, on conjecture and it's all circumstantial. There could be a million reasons that Hoover's time at the FBI was extended. It's not proof of anything. Nothing whatsoever. Still, it's considered proof against the ballistics test.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille You are absolutely correct and there is no evidence that Hoover was involved in anything. Also the bullet probably did come from that Carcano.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Thank you very much for your civilized tone. I really appreciate this discussion.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille And thank you as well. Sometimes you have to think with your feelings and not just logic.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Well, I think you really hit on one of the basics in this discussion right there. While I absolutely agree, that feelings have to be the basis of many things, I believe that investigations like this are not among those things. I actually believe quite the contrary. Otherwise one moves in to uncertain territory where injustice rules.
asgerwille 5 months ago
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conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@asgerwille In my mind one of the most important aspects of our little drama is the fact that when looking at a photo of the shirt John was wearing, bearing in mind that he was wearing a full back brace which would have prevented the shirt from "bunching up", the angles for a shot from behind and high above just don't work.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Well... Could you expand on the point about the back brace and the shirt. I don't quite follow.
Several eyewitnesses saw a man fire a rifle from the TSBD. So bullets were fired from above and behind.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Sure, John was wearing a full back brace under his jacket. This would have prevented his shirt from riding up on his back completely. If you look at an image of the shirt he was wearing with the position of the bullet hole marked you realize that for a shot to enter at this point and exit through his throat from a high angle is impossible.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 I am aware of the back brace, but I don't quite understand, why that would have prevented his shirt from moving.
If one studies the picture taken just seconds before the shots, it's clear that JFK's jacket bunches up in the back. There are actually a great essay on this exact discussion over at mcadams. There are a lot of great photos.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille I have tried to find out if John put the brace, which was a girdle like contraption, on over his shirt or under it. If it was over the shirt than the shirt could not have moved at all. I have not had much luck in this effort. Thank you for the mcadams tip.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 I do believe that the essay is quite well thought through.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille I am sorry but there were no eyewitnesses that placed Lee in that window. But the kids in the jail across the street told some interesting stories although none of them were ever interviewed by authorities.
(If you do have a name of witnesses please tell me.)
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Actually more than one identified a single man in the window. The most important eyewitness Howard L. Brennan saw Lee in the window and identified him later that night (november 22nd) in a police lineup. Brennan was on the concrete wall on the southwest corner of Elm and Houston. Just opposite of the TSBD. He's mentioned several times in the Warren report. E.g. on page 143.
asgerwille 5 months ago
I you're interested I can mail you a pdf of the report?
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille That line up you are referring to was how can I say this? Fixed might be the right word and even then Mr. Brennan was unable to make a positive identification.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Well, there's no proof of a fixed line up. And the argument is kind of absurd. The line up is fixed, but even so the witness isn't able to point out Oswald to the degree of a positive identification. When needed the conspirators have apparently been able to keep a HUGE murder plot secret. But they can't produce witnesses who can identify Oswald? Come on...
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Actually, if I have my facts straight, I think that Lee had a badly bruised eye and was wearing a torn white tee shirt. The others in the line up were court officers and detectives. They were much better dressed than Lee and just looked neat. In my opinion the line up was not proper.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Well, this would of course be a problem. I agree! His eye was bruised, that's a fact. I don't know about the clothes. But you're right in stating that this would compromise the validity.
Nevertheless all witnesses did point out Oswald. That also goes for the witnesses from the Tippit shooting. I acknowledge that killing Tippit doesn't mean, that Oswald killed JFK. But he carried the gun that fired the bullets into Tippit's body, he owned the Carcano, and his prints were on it.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille I have always wondered, was Tippit just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Whoever killed him certainly made sure he was dead.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Well, the gun that fired the shots was used by Oswald when he tried to fire it at the police officers in the Texas theater. The bullets were fired from that gun to the exclusion of every other gun.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Actually, if I have my facts correct, 4 bullets were recovered from Tippit but none could be positively identified as being fired from Lee's handgun. This handgun was a .38 which had been converted to a .38 special which caused a lot of problems with the testing of the bullets. I sometimes wonder if someone had not expected Lee to have that hidden handgun in his possession.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Actually, you're right! I wasn't precise. The four cartridges found close to the Tippit body were from the gun to the exclusion of every other gun. You're right about the problems with the testing of the bullets. One of the experts testified that one of the bullets came from the gun for sure. The other only said that they could have been fired from it.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille (Earl Crater of the Pig and Whistle restaurant said that LHO, Ruby and Tippit had breakfast there on a number of occasions at 7:00 A.M. Crater said that LHO never had more then a cup of coffee.) I just found this statement on the net. I wonder if it could be true.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Yes, I've come across this statement before. Unfortunately, I've only seen Earl Crater mentioned in connection with this statement and only on, for lack of a better word, conspiracy web sites. It's (almost) always written in the way, your quote is written. I'm a college history teacher, and to me that suggest, that there is only a single source behind that claim. And I can't find that source anywhere. Have you found it?
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille I had an idea you were a teacher. I actually love history but being from a poor part of the South I was lucky I was able to finish high school, although I did find a wonderful partner and we have done rather well.
Spartacus Educational has a great section on JFK and Tippit who I think should have had his life looked into more closely by the Warren Commission.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Hi again! Sorry, I've been snowed under for some days now - with work, not literally ;)
I drove across the states last year - from N.Y. to SF - and spent some time in the southern part. May I ask which state you are from? It's lovely to hear, that things worked out even if you may have begun your life in conditions that didn't make education easy. You have obviously read in to this subject. Have you ever studied history - perhaps in evening school (does that make sense?)
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille I hope you had a good trip, the U.S. is big and diverse. I am from a little town in the Western North Carolina mountains. It is a beautiful place but hard to make a living. I still live in NC but in a little more affluent part of the state. I have studied a lot of history on my own but some from a Erich von Däniken point of view. Pumapunku comes to mind.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@asgerwille I seem to remember reading somewhere that JD was an expert marksman in the military. By the way I have always admired the stand you guys put up against the Red's. Blocking both ends of a convoy moving through a snowy forest and attacking the center was brilliant and effective.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Oh, I really wish that was us. But that was Finland. They put in an amazing resistance, when the Soviets attacked them. I'm danish, and our resistance history isn't something to brag about. At least we have been active the last ten years.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Sorry, but I am sure you would make a good Finnish citizen.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@asgerwille Your video is very well made - Technically, that is ;)
asgerwille 5 months ago
Bob, thank you for all your good work. This video is spot on.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
haveing study this case i feel i should point out a few mistakes you might not have picked up on ,as a photographer with a degree in photography i would say most if not all kennedy photographs have been manufactured and are nor real photographs most of the films from love feeled to parkland have been altered in some way or anothe i do strongly belive thwe oswald assasination was a staged event and not live ,the us millitery were useing vidio tape as far back as 1948 the z film is fake and on an
SuperBandstand 5 months ago
@SuperBandstand It's a known fact that the FBI had possession of photographs and film of the attack but they could not be sure that they had it all at that time. I would not believe that alterations or manufacturing would have taken place other than 'cut and shut' editing (maybe at most) because they knew anything that would appear out of the woodwork even years later from any source could prove to discredit and therefore add to any conspiracy theories.
TheCrossroads09 5 months ago
@TheCrossroads09 ive been studying the oswold assasination and i can see lots of proof that this was not live t v....even the swaring in of lbj on airforce one i would say are faked....if you tap in jfk google search and study the kennedy photographs most have been retoutched .dont underestimate what they could and could nt do ,the lee harvey oswold mug shot is faked ,its very easy back then to graph a face on to somebody eles body they did it with ab lincon fakeing political images go s back..
SuperBandstand 5 months ago
Have any of you guys ever read the Warren report?
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Not a real big fan of historical fantasy.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11
Jesus...
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Jesus, I believe in. Have you actually read the Warren report yourself? All of it? Some of it? The CliffsNotes?
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 I have read it. All of it.
The CliffNotes - Ha! Good one ;)
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille All 888 pages? Sir, I salute you.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 I thank you. Although it did take me a year to finish it...
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille Even Gerald Ford had some rather unkind things to say about the Warren Report.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
@conspiracydog11 I am sure there are a lot of things that can be said of the Warren Report, that are both valid and problematic. But I do believe that most of the fundamental findings regarding the physical evidence are correct.
Even if one takes a skeptical stand - which a lot of people obviously do - it is important to remember, that the HSCA came to the same conclusion. With the exception of the famous "4th shot"-sound, which has since been widely criticized.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille But the thing is, after almost 50 years, no one has ever placed Lee in that window with that weapon beyond a reasonable doubt. And with Lee being friends with George de Mohrenschildt who was also friends with Jackie and her family and a certain future president. Well colour me unconvinced. I know its a small world but not that bloody small.
conspiracydog11 5 months ago
Svar på denne video ... Even if one accepts the idea of the 4th shot, the HSCA still concluded that Oswald fired three shots and killed JFK.
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asgerwille 5 months ago
CE 399 So called single bullet theory with the assumption it was fired fron that 6th floor TBSD window is flawed with my own eyesight of the location and I do assume bullets travel generally in straight lines. Stand on the 'X' spot on Elm where JFK was hit first at the back of the neck and my first thought of the Warren report was "b______t"!
TheCrossroads09 5 months ago
@TheCrossroads09
Well, I've also been to Dealey Plaza, and I have also stood on the X spot, and there were absolutely no hindrance between me and a bullet from the window on the sixth floor. Now, this is not proof of ANYTHING - Nor are your thoughts.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwilleMy point was that the angle seems too high in relation to the injuries to JFK/ Connally, absolutely no proof but a gut sense of that angle all things considered.Exactly what I'm looking for .'the proof' not the 'most likely'.We can all read the report,but another video clip Bob has here with LBJ being interviewed in the late 60'sdoes not make me feel any more confident. Why would President LBJ even suggest international involvement, where did his doubt come from or was it more deceit?
TheCrossroads09 5 months ago
@TheCrossroads09 This is all conjecture.
asgerwille 5 months ago
@TheCrossroads09 I do find it amazing, that most of the conpiracy crowd in here have never read the Warren report. You stand on an X and immediately dismiss both the Warren report and the HSCA - two of the most thorough investigations on the subject - They both concluded that Oswald killed JFK.
asgerwille 5 months ago
Having more than one shooter whether it be from the Daltex Building or the stormwater drain on Elm could provide the links to the people in power at that location at that time. The notion that government members such as Connally and LBJ were knowledgeable of an attack would have implications to this day and maybe why the further unfolding of evidence using technology is snuffed out by the powers that be??
TheCrossroads09 5 months ago
@TheCrossroads09 I absolutely agree with the fact that it could have implications - even today - if people in power had knowledge of an attack. But this is all speculation, and it is kept alive by the "catch 22"-nature of the idea. If the government, the FBI, the CIA (the list can easily be continued) were involved, it would be kept secret and cannot be proven. And therefore one would always be able to accuse the official investigations of being wrong without having to put forth a coherent
asgerwille 5 months ago
@asgerwille theory of the opposite that could be tried against the evidence.
English is not my native language, so please excuse me, if I have not written my point as clearly as I hope.
asgerwille 5 months ago
Thank you, sir, always love watching your videos.
assenort 5 months ago 2
i saw that on the history channel last night
Qwerty95ktv 5 months ago