This was my first rifle, and the first rifle that I shot, and learned how to shoot well. You can't beat its value.
and the americans used this rifle in the expedition to russia during their Russian Revolution...they equipped the American troops with the American made Mosins because they couldn't guarantee resupply and they knew 7.62x54R would be plentiful in Russia.
The rifle shoots high at 100m because most people don't fix the bayonet when they take it to the range. The rifles were zeroed at the factory with bayonet fixed, so shooting without it causes the rifle to shoot high. With the bayonet on, it shoots dead on 100m with the sights at their lowest setting.
Great review Sootch. I own a Hungarian M44. There is recoil on it, but you get used to it after a while. I can hit the range gong at 200 yards no problem all day long with it.
After watching the video, I must say the M44 is not a "cavalry" carbine. It was designed for urban fighting, hence the side folding bayonet. The Russians were not using much cavalry when this rifle was designed (the M44).
You should really look into the m38. It is like the m44 carbine but a little shorter stock and a couple pounds lighter. Plus it never came with a bayonet [sic] so it doesn't have the scetchy accuracy of the m91, m91/30, m44. Good video and great rifle.
@bgomusicco I wouldnt say the M44 has sketchy accurancy. I shoot mine with and without bayonet extended and can hit 18 inch steel plates at 200 yards quite consistently with surplus ammo and the iron sights. I think that havcing the bayonet extended is a myth, but then again, I've only shot 2 mosins in my life and nothing past 300 yards. But I do agree that the M38 is a nice rifle
I have a suggestion for your next firearm review, Mr. Sootch00. I don't know if you can get your hands on a VZ. 58 or maybe you already have one, but I'd be very interested on what you have to say about that particular carbine.
great channel, none of the big gun review chans i've looked at has done a review on the FN-FAL, i only find a couple of enthusiast reviews.. If anywould would make a good one on that its you, if you can get hold of one, and make a comparison to like an AR-15, accurancy, calibre, advantages and disavantages etc.. Heard many argue over platform, espec between those two, said to be the best from each "class". And of the GALIL, espec the 308, i have seen NO reviews at all !!!
Sootch, thanks for the review! I actually just picked up a Mosin a few days ago to complement my collection. I have two more coming to modify and will post reviews for accessories. If you get a chance, feel free to stop by!
Mosin Nagants were never converted to 30-06 for the American military. The 30-06 conversions were called "Bannerman conversions" and they are not safe to shoot. Also, the hole in the front sight hood is to allow light onto the front sight post, not for any adjustments. You should have specified that the M44 is heavier than the 91/30, not just "the carbine is heavier". The M38 and 91/59 are much lighter.
Liked your video, I just had a couple of questions. If the earlier models had the round receiver and the newer models had hex receiver, how come I have one made in 1928 that has a hex receiver and made in 1943 with a round one? Also I thought it was a Russian captain along with a Belgian gun deseigner that deseigned this weapon?
@13thmistral One of the guys was Belgium, the other was Russian. Sergei Mosin was the one who created this rifle. Leon Nagant (the Belgian) created the magazine system.
@eyecantcu2 maby if you put an ati stock on it ,but it may still be very heavy.perhaps a m38 wich does not have a side mounted bayonet might be a better choice.
@eyecantcu2 maby if you put a ati stock on it but it would still be very heavy.maby a m38 wich does not have a side mounted bayonet on it,might be a better choice
@sootch00 do a video comparion so the mosin nagant 91/30 and its finnish brother the finnish m39 (or the m27 or m28) the fin m39's are gorgeous rifles and highly accurate and fUN! great video gotta love the "mosinka" haha (:
@xXspectre170Xx Okay....the cheapest bolt .308 I can find is the savage axis for $300 w/o scope. The cheapest I can find a 91/30 is $100. The Axis will inhearantly be more accurate than a 91/30, however, the 7.62x54r is more powerful and you can find surplus ammo for as cheap as $5/20rds. You can buy a decent buttpad for $20 to mitigate recoil enough so you can shoot all day.
It's all up to what you want and your purposes. Just make sure you select a mosin like you shop for produce.
@Dragunov1185 Not all Mosins are made equal. I've observed that 91/30's made prior to 1943 will be better made. Also, attention must be paid when selecting one and it's best to pick from several. I just chose the first one that had good rifling and a decent trigger, but later I found I could have selected one with better workmanship, also.
I later found one in a store while visiting family that looked realy good and had that "smooth" bolt and felt bad for myself. Oh well.
What a nice vid Brother. I still havent found a place to shoot with mine here around Matthews. I am the first owner of that piece in USA. I might consider moving to SC. Matthews and Charlotte area is getting big. Too much "urban" to me.
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@VolsWin100 I had to buy a recoil reducing buttpad (not the $12 rubber POS) in order to shoot continuously. On my channel theres a video where it shows that the rifle shoves me back a few inches on the bench, but my arm is still OK.
Hey Sootch! great review, but I gotta post this and say that at 2:25 you said that the rounded Recievers came before the Hexagonal recievers, that is'nt quite right, (or at least I don't believe it is) if I remember right the Hexagonal Recievers came BEFORE the Rounded, right? I think you might have accidently mixed them up. (by the way, I don't mean thiss comment as insultive, I just mean it as informative). Hope this helps. :) Sincerely- Brownnz.
I tell you there's just something about the looks of Russian/Soviet arms. Toks, Nagants, AK's, SKS, M44's, they all just look awesome, and are super simple.
My only problem with the Mosin/Nagant is the forward mounted straight bolt. The bolt handle is too short and too far forward, so that you have to break cheek weld and lower the rifle to work the bolt. This makes shooting a tight group more difficult. Does anybody out there know where I can get a decent turned-bolt conversion done for my M91/30? There's not much on the net, and the Cheaper than Dirt bolt on kit doesn't work that well.
@Gungeek When you have to break cheek weld to cycle the bolt, you have to reacquire your sight picture completely with each shot. Depending on the range to the target, any slight variation in where you place your cheek to the stock or where you point the front sight post can end up placing the shot farther away from the shot before it. The less you move from your original shooting position, the easier it is to reacquire the sight picture and get a tighter grouping of shots.
@Gungeek W/any bolt action rifle you have to move your face to some degree. But w/the M91/30, the bolt handle is so short and so far forward that you have to lower the rifle completely to get the leverage to cycle the bolt, whereas w/a K98, an M1903 or a Lee Enfield you can keep the rifle to your shoulder at least, which makes it easier to reacquire the same sight picture w/those rifles. It's not impossible to shoot a tight group w/an M91/30, only more difficult than the other rifles mentioned
@Gungeek Only with diffiiculty. I tend to keep my off hand close to the magazine when shooting, so when I go to push the bolt forward to catch the next round, the long barrel makes the rifle tip down on me and bring the stock up. With the M1903, K98, or Lee Enfield, the bolt handles are mounted at the rear of the bolt, so that the bolt itself provides some leverage in cycling the round. It also helps that those rifles are shorter and better balanced than the M91/30.
Thanks for the video. Very informative as always. I did not know a lot about the rifle but I am going to a firearm auction this weekend which has a lot of them. Maybe I will be able to pick up a good one expensively.
to correct you about that type site; the very first position is the battle site zero and when you move it to 100 it drops down to zero at 100 meters. the 30 cal battle site zero is 25&250 meters for example. You stated the battle site zero is 300 meters so they would zero at 30 meters.
For those who claim they cannot afford a firearm after watching this video, well we know they have other reasons for not owning one. i have seen this weapon on clearance at cabelas for 79.99. excellent choice for weapons to review.
@0611930024838 Imperial Russia adopted the rifle in 1891, and it stayed in service after the October Revolution in 1917. The Soviets restamped almost all of the M91/30's they had with the hammer and sickle device, which makes one with the Romanoff arms intact on it very rare. However, I suspect from the smiley face that you already knew that and were just busting Sootch's stones..:)
This is the second time I have seen this weapon. The more I see one, the more I should get on. They look a very nice weapon. Gun showcin two weeks so I will have to loo
@waypastprime they vary alot because people buy crates of like 14 of them and depending on the mark up people sell them any where from 70 dollars to 130 but when they come in crates they usually have cosmaline in them so ull have to clean that out but if its being sold at a gun store it will probally be cleaned of cosmaline yet be 100 to 130
They were not invented in Belgium. Nagant developed the magazine system. Sergei Ivanovich Mosin invented and developed the gun. Pick up a copy of The Mosin-Nagant Rifle by Terence W. Lapin. It is a good read.
@Gungeek I am new to this Mosin thing so please be patient with this old man. So far Lapin's book is the only thing I have read on Mosin's, if you know of some other publications on the subject please fill me in, I want to learn as much as possible. I am branching out now, I just recieved an M-95 Styer/Hungarian. Now to find a source for ammo and clips for the damn thing. It's a nice gun though, nicer than most of my Mosin's.
I have shot a PILE of the corrosive ammo. Very, very, reliable stuff. Myself, I've never had a misfire. Cleaning quickly is a must, but very easy. Hoppes #9 and/or winded work very well. I take a bottle of windex to the range and just give the bore and bolt face a quick blast when I'm done just to neutralize the primer salts. Then I just give it a cleaning with the hoppes when I get home. Also, take down is real simple. Just a few very simple parts. So, yes you have to ke
I love my Mosin!!! Once you fire one of these, you'll know why the Russians kicked the Germans back to the Fatherlands!! Hell of a punch to it, and very rugged!
For those interested, there's a great movie called "Enemy At The Gates" whose story is centered around a Russian sniper, and ultimately going up against a German sniper (Ed Harris,) with a Mauser. It's worth renting or purchasing!!!
Sootch do you know how much the British Enfields go for? Great rifles, 10 rounds of 303 and some great history!!! Review would be great also, thanks for a cool chanel
I got my M91/30 at Big 5 for $99. It was made in the Soviet Union in 1942 and has the Soviet hammer and sickle in a star emblem on the rifle and strap. It also came with original ammo pouches and bayonet.
Simo Hayha, the highest scoring sniper of all time used the m44 carbine with ironsights to kill over 500 russian soldiers during the winter war. I like this rifle just because of that
@Borbonization actually Simo Häyhä used the M28 Finnish Mosin to get his kills, interestingly enough he is credited with 200 kills from his submachine gun
@jabara83 there is no M38 mosin, but there is a M39, sadly the M39 came too late to be used in quantity in the Winter War but was used in the Continuation War
3:50 The sniper rifles were called M91/30 PU not M91/31. Also I have to add that the Hex receivers were made first and phased out for the round receivers at Izhevsk in 1935 and Tula in 1936. Many of the M91's bought by the USA were sent along with the US troops when they intervened in Russia in 1919 due to ammo logistics. Those guns were left in Russia when we pulled out. The .30-06 conversion is considered highly dangerous to shoot. If you find one, they should be kept as wall hangers.
@Teleoceras The Mosin–Nagant was adopted and modified as a sniper rifle Model 1891/31 in 1932 and was issued to Soviet snipers. It served quite prominently in the brutal urban battles on the Eastern Front, such as the Battle of Stalingrad, which made heroes of snipers like Vasili Zaitsev and Ivan Sidorenko.
@sootch00 Can you please point a reference to where you have seen the designation M91/31? I've done a lot of research (4 1/2 years) into Mosin-Nagants before I got into collecting them and I have never seen that model number used until today. The sniper versions of the Mosins have always been designated the M91/30 PE, PEM, or PU (depending upon the scope) in every book and online source. Seriously, I am not trying to troll, I really have not seen that model designation before.
the reason of such "modification" is that Mosin–Nagant was the one and only rifle in USSR (SVT by Tokarev semi-auto was not so popular - it was expensive for massive army)
@Teleoceras I thought the thing was if a 91/30 shot well, it was taken out of the line and converted. There was no special manufacturing of specifc sniper Mosin Nagants (at least WWII era Russian).
@2:30 sootch you got it backwards, the earlier ones had the hex receivers, and the later ones had rounded off receivers, this was to lower the cost of manufacturing, especially during wartime
hey Sootch, can you tell me where do you get your INTRO Songs? i really like the "song" that you put in the guns review intro. if you could tell me THANKS!
Nice review Don, I have one of these added to my collection. They make a good jump off for anyone wanting a quality piece to start off with, truly a high value platform.It's in good company with my VZ-24 and No.4 SMLE now I need a Springfield 1903.
Very nice Sootch! You really do have to love a $99 rifle that will put venison on the table look awesome on the wall, keep Zombies at bay even if you run out of bullets and fight off the Nazis!
sootch can u do a video on how to clean a firearm after shooting corrosive ammo, im thinking about getting a 1080 round tin of that russian stuff for my ak
That is a tough rifle there. We got 3 of them at Gradys in Anderson for about 90 a piece. Do you think the value will go up on them as they get bought up or stay the same since there are so many?
The older models are hex, the newer (wwII) models have round receivers. They did that cuz it is easier to manufacture a round one, and they needed alot of them to fight Germany Nice Vid SOOtch.
I have been throwing around the idea of getting one of these rifles due to them being extremely cheap. Nice review I think I'll slide by the gun shop and pick up the one they have for $104.99 plus tax lol.
@Deeagle50 I have a few, including the M44 version. Great rifle, but kicks a bit, and they are old and well used for sure. For the price, you should defently pick one up.
@Deeagle50 Just check the bore, ask to have a 7.62x54 cartridge( if they say no then I'd buy else where) stick it in the muzzle bullet first, and if the brass touched the barrel I would skip it as its worn.
A fun weapon indeed. I love my 43 Izhevsk shooter. Just happened to get a fantastic bore, no counter-boring done. Rock on, Don.
zonabass 2 days ago
Love this gun
Good video
What is the name of the song btw in the beggining
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CitizenJohnSmith 1 week ago
This was my first rifle, and the first rifle that I shot, and learned how to shoot well. You can't beat its value.
and the americans used this rifle in the expedition to russia during their Russian Revolution...they equipped the American troops with the American made Mosins because they couldn't guarantee resupply and they knew 7.62x54R would be plentiful in Russia.
Alexn1067 1 week ago
The rifle shoots high at 100m because most people don't fix the bayonet when they take it to the range. The rifles were zeroed at the factory with bayonet fixed, so shooting without it causes the rifle to shoot high. With the bayonet on, it shoots dead on 100m with the sights at their lowest setting.
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zonabass 2 weeks ago
Great review Sootch. I own a Hungarian M44. There is recoil on it, but you get used to it after a while. I can hit the range gong at 200 yards no problem all day long with it.
junkychunky 1 month ago
im 5'11 160 lbs think i could handle the kick?
JUSTANOTHERDAY333333 1 month ago
@JUSTANOTHERDAY333333 I'm 5'10 and 130Ibs and I can handle the kick back, so I think you would be fine. Just keep it snug to your shoulder.
fuser662 1 month ago
One of the most of fun guns to shoot!
LearnToTurn7 2 months ago
I wish they were still $7. I'd probably buy at least 10.
victivincimus 2 months ago
After watching the video, I must say the M44 is not a "cavalry" carbine. It was designed for urban fighting, hence the side folding bayonet. The Russians were not using much cavalry when this rifle was designed (the M44).
DBabyNinetyOne91 3 months ago in playlist mbr
Mosin Nagant= FUN! And it's deadly, I own one and wouldn't think twice about using it if I needed to.
DBabyNinetyOne91 3 months ago in playlist mbr
I love these guns, their fun and cheap to shoot!
gunlover1993 3 months ago
You should really look into the m38. It is like the m44 carbine but a little shorter stock and a couple pounds lighter. Plus it never came with a bayonet [sic] so it doesn't have the scetchy accuracy of the m91, m91/30, m44. Good video and great rifle.
bgomusicco 3 months ago
@bgomusicco I wouldnt say the M44 has sketchy accurancy. I shoot mine with and without bayonet extended and can hit 18 inch steel plates at 200 yards quite consistently with surplus ammo and the iron sights. I think that havcing the bayonet extended is a myth, but then again, I've only shot 2 mosins in my life and nothing past 300 yards. But I do agree that the M38 is a nice rifle
251251 3 months ago in playlist More videos from sootch00
I have a suggestion for your next firearm review, Mr. Sootch00. I don't know if you can get your hands on a VZ. 58 or maybe you already have one, but I'd be very interested on what you have to say about that particular carbine.
MavHunter20XX 4 months ago
Great video
salvichannel 4 months ago
great channel, none of the big gun review chans i've looked at has done a review on the FN-FAL, i only find a couple of enthusiast reviews.. If anywould would make a good one on that its you, if you can get hold of one, and make a comparison to like an AR-15, accurancy, calibre, advantages and disavantages etc.. Heard many argue over platform, espec between those two, said to be the best from each "class". And of the GALIL, espec the 308, i have seen NO reviews at all !!!
androgenix 4 months ago
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androgenix 4 months ago
Mosin Nagant was the best bolt-action rifle in World War 2, i bet that gun killed more axis' than any other gun.
MrTicklebunnies 4 months ago in playlist More videos from sootch00
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@MrTicklebunnies Give reasons why you think its the best?
Gungeek 4 months ago
@MrTicklebunnies
I would disagree with that.
HauptmannRob 3 months ago
These can be excellent rifles. There's a guy here on youtube (Mag30th) shooting one out to 1000 yards.
roentgen571 5 months ago
I have one, I love it.
pcnightmare52 5 months ago
such a fun gun to shoot recoil is fine. 12 gauge rocoil makes this seems like nothing
kniedelm 5 months ago 2
Sootch, thanks for the review! I actually just picked up a Mosin a few days ago to complement my collection. I have two more coming to modify and will post reviews for accessories. If you get a chance, feel free to stop by!
SuperiorAutocraft 5 months ago
i own one of these. i alwayse wonderd why it shot high. thanx for the info.
chraw1983 5 months ago in playlist Videos from sootch00
Mosin Nagants were never converted to 30-06 for the American military. The 30-06 conversions were called "Bannerman conversions" and they are not safe to shoot. Also, the hole in the front sight hood is to allow light onto the front sight post, not for any adjustments. You should have specified that the M44 is heavier than the 91/30, not just "the carbine is heavier". The M38 and 91/59 are much lighter.
huntwithairguns 5 months ago
The early ones had a hex receiver, the later ones had a round receiver....
huntwithairguns 5 months ago 9
3 for 100 bucks?? where do you live?
bunny153649 5 months ago
Liked your video, I just had a couple of questions. If the earlier models had the round receiver and the newer models had hex receiver, how come I have one made in 1928 that has a hex receiver and made in 1943 with a round one? Also I thought it was a Russian captain along with a Belgian gun deseigner that deseigned this weapon?
jeffrey826 5 months ago
Sootch... Fate of Destinee has just purchased one of these... popular amongst the You Tube gun gurus I believe! NF rates them highly.
TheLegumMagister 5 months ago
29" DAMN
Luger718A1 5 months ago
belgium ?
realy
wow, some of the people in my country did something fantastic if talking about guns
though the general opinion about guns now these days....
13thmistral 5 months ago
@13thmistral One of the guys was Belgium, the other was Russian. Sergei Mosin was the one who created this rifle. Leon Nagant (the Belgian) created the magazine system.
huntwithairguns 5 months ago
@huntwithairguns still awsome
13thmistral 5 months ago
Sootch00 looks like that guy from American Pickers.
davidateyou 5 months ago
im sure you know this, but its pronounced mo-zeen na-ganh
conciousness88 5 months ago
@eyecantcu2 maby if you put an ati stock on it ,but it may still be very heavy.perhaps a m38 wich does not have a side mounted bayonet might be a better choice.
akdude182 5 months ago
@eyecantcu2 maby if you put a ati stock on it but it would still be very heavy.maby a m38 wich does not have a side mounted bayonet on it,might be a better choice
akdude182 5 months ago
@eyecantcu2 Ya mine is great! just pick up some winchester Sp's and you'll be fine
Survivalist25 5 months ago
What kind of accuracy are you seeing w/ your 91/30, Sootch00, sir?
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
@sootch00 do a video comparion so the mosin nagant 91/30 and its finnish brother the finnish m39 (or the m27 or m28) the fin m39's are gorgeous rifles and highly accurate and fUN! great video gotta love the "mosinka" haha (:
MattieTheBear 5 months ago
Post a video about how to cure sticky bolt syndrome please
Mobscene19 5 months ago
@Mobscene19 iraqveteran8888 has a series on it called "making your mosin rock" it helps alot
MattieTheBear 5 months ago
@Mobscene19 iraqveteran8888 has a great series on how to cure that, check it out
garandfan12 5 months ago
WHAT Sootch had a gunshop i could have never guessed lol
techdeckdude4 5 months ago
Good Accuracy! UR-RA!
I own 5 Mosinka's a PRC type 53, M38 and three 91/30's they will stay in the family
peaqe6662 5 months ago
hows the recoil compared to a .308 or .30-06???
xXspectre170Xx 5 months ago
@xXspectre170Xx .30-06 is enough to where you want to wear a pad of some sort, in my opinion.
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
@MavHunter20XX so its better to go with a .308 until you get used to the recoil???
xXspectre170Xx 5 months ago
@xXspectre170Xx Okay....the cheapest bolt .308 I can find is the savage axis for $300 w/o scope. The cheapest I can find a 91/30 is $100. The Axis will inhearantly be more accurate than a 91/30, however, the 7.62x54r is more powerful and you can find surplus ammo for as cheap as $5/20rds. You can buy a decent buttpad for $20 to mitigate recoil enough so you can shoot all day.
It's all up to what you want and your purposes. Just make sure you select a mosin like you shop for produce.
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
Got the recievers mixed up, Hex early one round later.
AK74Man87 5 months ago
Wow... Really smooth bolt there. How'd you get it so smooth?!
Dragunov1185 5 months ago
@Dragunov1185 Not all Mosins are made equal. I've observed that 91/30's made prior to 1943 will be better made. Also, attention must be paid when selecting one and it's best to pick from several. I just chose the first one that had good rifling and a decent trigger, but later I found I could have selected one with better workmanship, also.
I later found one in a store while visiting family that looked realy good and had that "smooth" bolt and felt bad for myself. Oh well.
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
What a nice vid Brother. I still havent found a place to shoot with mine here around Matthews. I am the first owner of that piece in USA. I might consider moving to SC. Matthews and Charlotte area is getting big. Too much "urban" to me.
Courage, above all things, is the first quality of a warrior.
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lhusby 5 months ago
Man I've got one they are a lot of fun and ammo is cheap but man that thing kicks like a bitch!
VolsWin100 5 months ago in playlist Videos from sootch00
@VolsWin100 I had to buy a recoil reducing buttpad (not the $12 rubber POS) in order to shoot continuously. On my channel theres a video where it shows that the rifle shoves me back a few inches on the bench, but my arm is still OK.
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
Good video, I have never wanted a Mosin, but I like the gun.
I learned something here today.........:)
jodopeg 5 months ago
How does the Mosin Nagant M91/30 Rifle sight in for those of us who are left eye dominate? I have a major problem with the SKS. Thanks.
whocares1948 5 months ago
i just baught a mosin today!
Solingen1000 5 months ago
I love my 91/30. Probably the bolt action rifle that I pull out of the safe most often. It's just fun and cheap to shoot.
pcnightmare52 5 months ago
the best $90. 00 gun you can get
zombiesack 5 months ago
0:19 very good looking girl in the background (is that you wife?!)
YouCallitPiracy 5 months ago
Good vid may friend.
tubaljohn1 5 months ago
Hey Sootch! great review, but I gotta post this and say that at 2:25 you said that the rounded Recievers came before the Hexagonal recievers, that is'nt quite right, (or at least I don't believe it is) if I remember right the Hexagonal Recievers came BEFORE the Rounded, right? I think you might have accidently mixed them up. (by the way, I don't mean thiss comment as insultive, I just mean it as informative). Hope this helps. :) Sincerely- Brownnz.
Brownnz92TNPfan 5 months ago 4
that fine weapon is taller than you
jeff420swinger 5 months ago
It's always good to hear another story about the legendary Mosin Nagant. Great info, Sootch!
sabr686 5 months ago
The mosins are just plain fun to shoot n u gotta love the m44 nice and compact but still packs a punch
WickedKlown10mm 5 months ago
I tell you there's just something about the looks of Russian/Soviet arms. Toks, Nagants, AK's, SKS, M44's, they all just look awesome, and are super simple.
samuraitactical556 5 months ago
Smack that bolt like a Russian mail order bride!!!
samuraitactical556 5 months ago 35
Have one myself. Awesome to shoot. Great video!
xknourfuj3nx 5 months ago
I love my 1946 M44 Carbine!
AppalachianFreedom 5 months ago
Im getting a sniper version. It has the PU scope and turned down bolt. I cant wait. XD
thepunksandwich8888 5 months ago
My only problem with the Mosin/Nagant is the forward mounted straight bolt. The bolt handle is too short and too far forward, so that you have to break cheek weld and lower the rifle to work the bolt. This makes shooting a tight group more difficult. Does anybody out there know where I can get a decent turned-bolt conversion done for my M91/30? There's not much on the net, and the Cheaper than Dirt bolt on kit doesn't work that well.
simonferrer 5 months ago
@simonferrer do a search for 'the boltman'. It's what he does.
darkminstrel 5 months ago
@simonferrer How does that change group size?
Gungeek 5 months ago
@Gungeek When you have to break cheek weld to cycle the bolt, you have to reacquire your sight picture completely with each shot. Depending on the range to the target, any slight variation in where you place your cheek to the stock or where you point the front sight post can end up placing the shot farther away from the shot before it. The less you move from your original shooting position, the easier it is to reacquire the sight picture and get a tighter grouping of shots.
simonferrer 5 months ago
@simonferrer What bolt action dont you have to move your face when you cycle the bolt?
Gungeek 5 months ago
@Gungeek W/any bolt action rifle you have to move your face to some degree. But w/the M91/30, the bolt handle is so short and so far forward that you have to lower the rifle completely to get the leverage to cycle the bolt, whereas w/a K98, an M1903 or a Lee Enfield you can keep the rifle to your shoulder at least, which makes it easier to reacquire the same sight picture w/those rifles. It's not impossible to shoot a tight group w/an M91/30, only more difficult than the other rifles mentioned
simonferrer 5 months ago
@simonferrer I can cycle the Mosin from my shoulder cant you?
Gungeek 5 months ago
@Gungeek Only with diffiiculty. I tend to keep my off hand close to the magazine when shooting, so when I go to push the bolt forward to catch the next round, the long barrel makes the rifle tip down on me and bring the stock up. With the M1903, K98, or Lee Enfield, the bolt handles are mounted at the rear of the bolt, so that the bolt itself provides some leverage in cycling the round. It also helps that those rifles are shorter and better balanced than the M91/30.
simonferrer 5 months ago
@Gungeek Not left handed, I installed a pistol grip on mine for that purpose.
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
Thanks for the video. Very informative as always. I did not know a lot about the rifle but I am going to a firearm auction this weekend which has a lot of them. Maybe I will be able to pick up a good one expensively.
FirearmPatriot 5 months ago
I own a copy of those rifles. Both of them suffer from the famous tight bolt upon opening after firing a shot.
azmaddog6 5 months ago
to correct you about that type site; the very first position is the battle site zero and when you move it to 100 it drops down to zero at 100 meters. the 30 cal battle site zero is 25&250 meters for example. You stated the battle site zero is 300 meters so they would zero at 30 meters.
taeim43 5 months ago
Love the video, love this rifle.
JAndersonIV 5 months ago
For those who claim they cannot afford a firearm after watching this video, well we know they have other reasons for not owning one. i have seen this weapon on clearance at cabelas for 79.99. excellent choice for weapons to review.
TheSillydad 5 months ago
I should have bought an M38 when I had the chance. Don't really have in interest in the other models, more of mauser guy.
gboyd242 5 months ago
picked one up a few days ago, put a few hundred rounds through it already. works great =) i love it!
DrKreig 5 months ago
probably going to be the first rifle i purchase.
DocThrobulator 5 months ago
Nice review I love my 91/30 i can only shoot mabie 80-100 rounds before my shoulder cant take it anymore.
korneroner 5 months ago
how can soviet con tries adopt the rifle in 1891? come on 1917? :D
0611930024838 5 months ago
@0611930024838 Imperial Russia adopted the rifle in 1891, and it stayed in service after the October Revolution in 1917. The Soviets restamped almost all of the M91/30's they had with the hammer and sickle device, which makes one with the Romanoff arms intact on it very rare. However, I suspect from the smiley face that you already knew that and were just busting Sootch's stones..:)
simonferrer 5 months ago
I have a mosin nagant great rifle :) thanks for all that do sootch00 kept it up
David3Lawman 5 months ago
I've heard several pronunciations, but that's the first time I've heard that one
biggrex 5 months ago
intro song is pretty catchy
gunsmith411 5 months ago
Like always great vid!
xcessdj 5 months ago
I have a 1937. I nicknamed it The Voice of God....Plug the ears up lol. Fun, fun rifle.
EastTennesseePrepper 5 months ago
Hey Don are you getting all these WW2 era rifles (Mauser, Garand, 1903) from Atlantic Firearms?
TexasLegend93 5 months ago
shot one of these for the first time today
silentsniper441 5 months ago
I would like to have seen the target grouping??
thomastaylor77 5 months ago
This is the second time I have seen this weapon. The more I see one, the more I should get on. They look a very nice weapon. Gun showcin two weeks so I will have to loo
DennyRec 5 months ago
Why would the lowerst sight setting be marked 100 meters if it is really 300 meters?
Gungeek 5 months ago
see the book "War of the Rats"
cvfobx23 5 months ago
also it was much more reliable than the german counterparts in the cold russian winters
cvfobx23 5 months ago
@cvfobx23 The mauser works just fine in cold weather.
Gungeek 5 months ago
I find myself looking forward to the snipettes at the end of your vids, always get's a chuckle!
Now I am thinking of picking-up one of these old rifles. You are giving me every logical reason to justify the purchase. Good vid.
FrikinTastik 5 months ago
whaatttt sootch used to have a gun shop?
MrLoveslittlekids 5 months ago
If a bunch of you guys (and gals) could let me know what price is normal for this rifle I would appreciate.... I am in MA and EVERYTHING is pricey.
waypastprime 5 months ago
@waypastprime they vary alot because people buy crates of like 14 of them and depending on the mark up people sell them any where from 70 dollars to 130 but when they come in crates they usually have cosmaline in them so ull have to clean that out but if its being sold at a gun store it will probally be cleaned of cosmaline yet be 100 to 130
MrLoveslittlekids 5 months ago
@MrLoveslittlekids Thanks for the info! I think I might just grab one!
waypastprime 5 months ago
@waypastprime $80 for a Wartime round receiver and $100 for a pre-war Hex here in IL
raven1121 5 months ago
@raven1121 Thanks for the info!
waypastprime 5 months ago
@waypastprime I bought one at a pawn shop 2 years ago for 79 dollars.
goosearrow 5 months ago
lol get some stripper clips u slacker
Demicron 5 months ago
Your bolt runs WAY better than mine - STICKY bolt is driving me crazy!
Twitchy229 5 months ago
Did You Know That The Dragunov SVD Was The First Purpose Made Sniper Rifle.
THESOVIETCRIMSON 5 months ago
They were not invented in Belgium. Nagant developed the magazine system. Sergei Ivanovich Mosin invented and developed the gun. Pick up a copy of The Mosin-Nagant Rifle by Terence W. Lapin. It is a good read.
klesmer 5 months ago
@klesmer Mosin did very little.
Gungeek 5 months ago
@Gungeek According to Lapin he did most of it, Nagant designed the magazine system. So who are you to believe?
klesmer 5 months ago
@klesmer The action looks like a Berdan II =)
Gungeek 5 months ago
@Gungeek I am new to this Mosin thing so please be patient with this old man. So far Lapin's book is the only thing I have read on Mosin's, if you know of some other publications on the subject please fill me in, I want to learn as much as possible. I am branching out now, I just recieved an M-95 Styer/Hungarian. Now to find a source for ammo and clips for the damn thing. It's a nice gun though, nicer than most of my Mosin's.
klesmer 5 months ago
For those interested,
I have shot a PILE of the corrosive ammo. Very, very, reliable stuff. Myself, I've never had a misfire. Cleaning quickly is a must, but very easy. Hoppes #9 and/or winded work very well. I take a bottle of windex to the range and just give the bore and bolt face a quick blast when I'm done just to neutralize the primer salts. Then I just give it a cleaning with the hoppes when I get home. Also, take down is real simple. Just a few very simple parts. So, yes you have to ke
Hazmattdown 5 months ago
Beautiful rifle.
guomaster 5 months ago
I love my Mosin!!! Once you fire one of these, you'll know why the Russians kicked the Germans back to the Fatherlands!! Hell of a punch to it, and very rugged!
For those interested, there's a great movie called "Enemy At The Gates" whose story is centered around a Russian sniper, and ultimately going up against a German sniper (Ed Harris,) with a Mauser. It's worth renting or purchasing!!!
gac914 5 months ago
nice gun
pizzacrazy1000 5 months ago
Sootch do you know how much the British Enfields go for? Great rifles, 10 rounds of 303 and some great history!!! Review would be great also, thanks for a cool chanel
valdostastate77 5 months ago
I got my M91/30 at Big 5 for $99. It was made in the Soviet Union in 1942 and has the Soviet hammer and sickle in a star emblem on the rifle and strap. It also came with original ammo pouches and bayonet.
182511419139208 5 months ago
Simo Hayha, the highest scoring sniper of all time used the m44 carbine with ironsights to kill over 500 russian soldiers during the winter war. I like this rifle just because of that
Borbonization 5 months ago
@Borbonization actually Simo Häyhä used the M28 Finnish Mosin to get his kills, interestingly enough he is credited with 200 kills from his submachine gun
raven1121 5 months ago
@raven1121 he used the m38 finnish mosin nagant, i dont think there was a 28
jabara83 5 months ago
@jabara83 there is no M38 mosin, but there is a M39, sadly the M39 came too late to be used in quantity in the Winter War but was used in the Continuation War
raven1121 5 months ago
@raven1121 The m38 is the Soviet carbine.
Gungeek 5 months ago
@Gungeek Most Finnish sources and even a picture of him in the war showed him holding a M28
raven1121 5 months ago
@raven1121 thank you for that, and the fact that he got 200 kills with his submachine gun, makes him even more awesome
Borbonization 5 months ago
Wow, I'm a bit blown away at how cheap they are. You would figure such an iconic rifle would cost a ton!
Misterwhalley88 5 months ago
You have no idea how long I waited for this
Scootch for president!
ManTheHarpoons9 5 months ago
m1 garand any day
xxuncexx 5 months ago
@xxuncexx well sure, but for a hundred bucks?
CollegScholarship101 5 months ago
for a hundred bucks?
CollegScholarship101 5 months ago
@CollegScholarship101 cause its cheap and common but the m1 is a fine semi auto american made battle rifle!
xxuncexx 5 months ago
Thanks sootch00!
I love the mosin!
tacticalsheepdog 5 months ago
Beautiful
SgtB0YR13 5 months ago
3:50 The sniper rifles were called M91/30 PU not M91/31. Also I have to add that the Hex receivers were made first and phased out for the round receivers at Izhevsk in 1935 and Tula in 1936. Many of the M91's bought by the USA were sent along with the US troops when they intervened in Russia in 1919 due to ammo logistics. Those guns were left in Russia when we pulled out. The .30-06 conversion is considered highly dangerous to shoot. If you find one, they should be kept as wall hangers.
Teleoceras 5 months ago 18
@Teleoceras The Mosin–Nagant was adopted and modified as a sniper rifle Model 1891/31 in 1932 and was issued to Soviet snipers. It served quite prominently in the brutal urban battles on the Eastern Front, such as the Battle of Stalingrad, which made heroes of snipers like Vasili Zaitsev and Ivan Sidorenko.
sootch00 5 months ago 10
@sootch00 Can you please point a reference to where you have seen the designation M91/31? I've done a lot of research (4 1/2 years) into Mosin-Nagants before I got into collecting them and I have never seen that model number used until today. The sniper versions of the Mosins have always been designated the M91/30 PE, PEM, or PU (depending upon the scope) in every book and online source. Seriously, I am not trying to troll, I really have not seen that model designation before.
Teleoceras 5 months ago
@sootch00
the reason of such "modification" is that Mosin–Nagant was the one and only rifle in USSR (SVT by Tokarev semi-auto was not so popular - it was expensive for massive army)
BorsalinoCo 5 months ago
@sootch00
I liked the movie enemy at the gates.
Vasili Zaitsev guess he could make record with a modern rifle! (3,5 km hits?!)
YouCallitPiracy 5 months ago
@YouCallitPiracy No, that girl was probably 15 Lol!!
sootch00 5 months ago
@sootch00
Im 16 thats wye I noticed I guess :P
YouCallitPiracy 5 months ago
@sootch00 Is the trigger pull heavy?
Humberto4790 5 months ago
@Teleoceras I thought the thing was if a 91/30 shot well, it was taken out of the line and converted. There was no special manufacturing of specifc sniper Mosin Nagants (at least WWII era Russian).
MavHunter20XX 5 months ago
@MavHunter20XX You are correct. The most accurate Mosin Nagants during the factory tests were the ones that were converted into sniper models.
Teleoceras 5 months ago
nice review!
keslakemcr 5 months ago
@keslakemcr I agree
Renocasa 5 months ago
@2:30 sootch you got it backwards, the earlier ones had the hex receivers, and the later ones had rounded off receivers, this was to lower the cost of manufacturing, especially during wartime
ARTONY92 5 months ago
My god, those things are SCARY with a bayonet! If I was a German in WWII I'd run a mile! And $7... wow.
CQBMaster14 5 months ago
great vid. just went shooting my mosin the other day. such a fun, accurate rifle.
BWhitley2020 5 months ago
hey Sootch, can you tell me where do you get your INTRO Songs? i really like the "song" that you put in the guns review intro. if you could tell me THANKS!
ATTACKOFTHEBENZ 5 months ago
Nice review Don, I have one of these added to my collection. They make a good jump off for anyone wanting a quality piece to start off with, truly a high value platform.It's in good company with my VZ-24 and No.4 SMLE now I need a Springfield 1903.
359badger 5 months ago
Very nice Sootch! You really do have to love a $99 rifle that will put venison on the table look awesome on the wall, keep Zombies at bay even if you run out of bullets and fight off the Nazis!
ironmonkeyz 5 months ago
I just saw one of these one yesterday. Might side down to the store sometime soon.
renarudo1 5 months ago
sootch can u do a video on how to clean a firearm after shooting corrosive ammo, im thinking about getting a 1080 round tin of that russian stuff for my ak
garandfan12 5 months ago
@garandfan12- use soapy water, then dry, then put a light coat of oil on it, also windex does the job too
ARTONY92 5 months ago
That is a tough rifle there. We got 3 of them at Gradys in Anderson for about 90 a piece. Do you think the value will go up on them as they get bought up or stay the same since there are so many?
TheCoroncachannel 5 months ago
The older models are hex, the newer (wwII) models have round receivers. They did that cuz it is easier to manufacture a round one, and they needed alot of them to fight Germany Nice Vid SOOtch.
mechanisto1832 5 months ago
I have been throwing around the idea of getting one of these rifles due to them being extremely cheap. Nice review I think I'll slide by the gun shop and pick up the one they have for $104.99 plus tax lol.
Deeagle50 5 months ago
@Deeagle50 I have a few, including the M44 version. Great rifle, but kicks a bit, and they are old and well used for sure. For the price, you should defently pick one up.
Jesses001 5 months ago
@Deeagle50 Just check the bore, ask to have a 7.62x54 cartridge( if they say no then I'd buy else where) stick it in the muzzle bullet first, and if the brass touched the barrel I would skip it as its worn.
richiestang78 5 months ago
wow, thats destiny. This weekend I was in a museum and saw that rifle.
Now you post a video of it :)
RamSkirata 5 months ago