he tried to be an intellectual, without knowing what it meant and without any intellectual capacity greater than that of a turnip...
...it saddens me that he associates himself at all with us atheists, even though he is mentally incapable of understanding any science whatsoever - doubtless the cause of his christianity.
blind faith in atheism uuuuu such a ridiculous bullshit
there is no faith atheism there are just people that happens not to believe in supernatural things like people who don't like Polo or tennis
also some people use the world Islam and don't think that there are 1.5 billion people or Christians and think they are describing all of them so 2 billion think before you speak and don't simplify things the world is complex
@Ylberi1 Yes there is faith to believe that, first you have no facts to say that God does not exist so the only thing to do when making that choice is to have "faith and believe" because you have to believe that there isn't a God, believe it or not its a fundamental fact.
LOL, You lost faith in atheism?? Atheism is it self is lack of faith, how did u loose it then??? I hope ur making lot of money selling that book, that a very good strategy!!1
i would like to read that book, if it was free and came with a highlighter so i could mark out all the straw man, fallacious and just plain bullshit ideas that are more than likely in there.
@billybonds007 hehe, well i did say i would at least read it, maybe it would surprise me and make perfect sense, although going on what i have seen from these guys its not very likely
Well, you know Kirk, I went to christian schools, churches, bible studies, Sunday schools, and all that, for 17 years, and you know what? THERE IS NO GOOD EVIDENCE FOR SCRIPTURE OR GOD.
I read your book there. It answered none of the questions, and was full of fallacious arguments. Thanks for being a media whore so everyone could see how much of a lying sack of shit you are.
Ummm i did all that too and who said where you were going they were telling you the truth, no evidence? . ..... that's like saying there is no evidence you see and you just get around and grab stuff and describe it based on luck lol
Just watched again, His "blind faith" actually was just ignorance, as he says he just believed whatever thing his teachers were talking about, without mentioning if he actually listened or thought about the topics.
Blind faith in believing things researched and told to him by real people that actually existed, as supposed to listening to people who talk to the voice in their head.
Also, the "Don't just parrot the arguements of other atheists". I assume this means the quotation of reliable sources by atheists.
@understudy52 yeah same here "The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords." (Hosea 13:16 NLT) oh yeah ill teach that to my kids!!!! kill nonbelievers!! gays!! Mexicans!! slavery is ok!!
@understudy52 Then why do you atheists have a heart attack when we try to hand them out? You atheists should be handing them out. I can't find any atheist websites handing out free Bibles. Why don't you start one? Put your money where your mouth is.
@YesYou123333 Because I don't care what other people believe. It doesn't matter to me personally if you are a Christian. I don't want to change your beliefs. I wish you happiness in whatever you believe. My goal is not to convert anyone, but to have a happy life. I hope you have a happy life too.
The way he talks about being atheist, he wasn't. He didn't actually look at science or the claims of his friends he just took them for their word, submitting to authority. And that is all he does with god, believing what other people tell him. If Kirk wants any credibility either way he needs to actually look for answers himself, not just rely on people claiming authority.
if your out of toilet paper, and the bible is all you have to wipe your ass, dont use it it'll just make it worse down there. you'd just be adding to it.
Wow.. there is a huge debate about this.. just realized today.. I began by looking it up in dictionaries, they all pretty much gave two definitions:
-belief there is no god
-no belief in god
I stated that atheism was the first definition, and you the second one (and by the way the origin of this word is not "a-theism" from engilsh, its "atheos" from greek which has a loos meaning but more or less means godless (also used to describe people that believed in a non accepted religion)
I will admit that both definitions are technically correct....
However, i think the second definition (your definition) was just adopted because of general use... Winston Churchill among other brilliant representatives of "atheism" have stated that they are really agnostic, but for practical reasons they call themselves atheists.
Atheism = no god= unprovable/untestable statement = not 100% scientific => atheist like to think it is 100% scientific => they used alternative meaning.
To expound on your definitions,Agnostic simply means one doesn't feel they posses enough knowledge to decide wether or not God exists. Basically on the fence. However, a Deist believes that God is here just isnt present in our lives because he doesnt care about us.
I'm personally a Christian who believes if you want to see God, see Jesus in the Bible, see what he stood for and live that way, have a personal relationship with him. Worship to God doesnt make slaves us, we fulfill our purpose
Ex atheist my ass. I'm so sick of these fundies claiming to be ex atheists; just another lie. BTW, it's "loses faith" not "looses faith." Atheism is not a matter of faith anyway, as atheism is the lack of belief, we abstain from belief. Saying that atheism is a belief or a religion is like saying that bald is a hair color.
Otch, well. Thank you. Off how Fundamentalist Christians have no idea what an atheist even is (simple though it be), and that they love to claim they were one in the past. Many Fundamentalists claim they were Satanists when they were not.
Jeffry Dahlmer was a Fundamentalist Christian all his life but he claimed he was "saved" only after being put in prison.
Fundamentalist Christians and Islamists seem to believe lying is holy.
I consider myself theist even though I really am an agnostic, but I do think that if this guy was ever an atheist it was very superficial.
Anyway.. i do agree with him in what he says about the "atheist faith". Unfortunately at this point in time it is impossible to call yourself atheist without depending on blind faith. At this point in time the most accurate place to be is to be an agnostic.
Methinks you have the wrong definition of atheist. Commonly misconstrued by non-atheists. An atheist is NOT someone who claims they know there is no god. You can't prove a negative, so that's an untenable position. Look at the word: A = without; theism = belief in god. Therefore the atheist lacks a belief in god, or abstains from belief. Call this agnosticism if you want, but I prefer atheist. Get it now? No blind faith required.
Well.. I understand your confusion between atheism and agnosticism. I understand that anybody can be an atheist, i know that if one does not believe on a god or any metaphysical existence then you are atheist, in fact we are all born atheist. Agnosticism in the other hand accepts the POSSIBILITY of a god, and my comment was that in order to neglect the possibility of a god you need to have a blind faith because at this point in time it cannot be proofed in a naturalistic way that there is no god
Sorry, sir, but YOU are confused. Atheists admit to the possibility, that's what you do when you abstain from a position. Read again what I was telling you. Look around for other videos by atheists on this question. Atheism is a position of a lack of belief, it's not a belief either for or against. Again, it is simply, "without theism." Agnosticism is about knowing or degrees of knowing. Calling atheism a belief is like calling bald a hair color.
Well Kirk I was a Christian until I read the bible and got to know this God fellow... What an egomaniac..
sipnosis 3 weeks ago
The whole reason of Atheism is not 2 beleive in faith u fucking moronic jizzrag
martingomezism 3 months ago
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If atheism is a religion, then abstinence is a sexual position
rgaud8 7 months ago
Wow, I am constantly amazed at the bullshit this guy peddles
Pigroota 11 months ago
Kirk, your a moron, you can't loose faith in atheism as it's a LACK of faith that defines it.
puckman 11 months ago
this guy is a moron xD
Klostradorez 11 months ago
he tried to be an intellectual, without knowing what it meant and without any intellectual capacity greater than that of a turnip...
...it saddens me that he associates himself at all with us atheists, even though he is mentally incapable of understanding any science whatsoever - doubtless the cause of his christianity.
Grymbaldknight 1 year ago
This guy is such an ass typicle he would use the come to our side because we might be right and you will burn in hell if you dont.
chaoticstylez 1 year ago
blind faith in atheism uuuuu such a ridiculous bullshit
there is no faith atheism there are just people that happens not to believe in supernatural things like people who don't like Polo or tennis
also some people use the world Islam and don't think that there are 1.5 billion people or Christians and think they are describing all of them so 2 billion think before you speak and don't simplify things the world is complex
Ylberi1 1 year ago
@Ylberi1 Yes there is faith to believe that, first you have no facts to say that God does not exist so the only thing to do when making that choice is to have "faith and believe" because you have to believe that there isn't a God, believe it or not its a fundamental fact.
billybonds007 1 year ago
LOL, You lost faith in atheism?? Atheism is it self is lack of faith, how did u loose it then??? I hope ur making lot of money selling that book, that a very good strategy!!1
ayyawark 1 year ago
Great testimony from Kirk Cameron. Find out more about the Truth at:
WayoftheMaster com ... or ... LivingWaters com
TerryBBurton 1 year ago
i would like to read that book, if it was free and came with a highlighter so i could mark out all the straw man, fallacious and just plain bullshit ideas that are more than likely in there.
iouakick 1 year ago
@iouakick How open minded of you lol
billybonds007 1 year ago
@billybonds007 hehe, well i did say i would at least read it, maybe it would surprise me and make perfect sense, although going on what i have seen from these guys its not very likely
iouakick 1 year ago
Hey guess what.
Befor christ came along all the people who ever lived are now in Hell becasue he wasnt there to help them.
Kirk was never an atheist, he was a complette dick and still is
gforce68ultra 1 year ago
Horse Shit!!
graemec 1 year ago
WA WA WA WA WA WA WAIT.... at 1:27 you said
"Don't just parrot the arguments of other atheists."
Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.
baggedyman 2 years ago
Well, you know Kirk, I went to christian schools, churches, bible studies, Sunday schools, and all that, for 17 years, and you know what? THERE IS NO GOOD EVIDENCE FOR SCRIPTURE OR GOD.
I read your book there. It answered none of the questions, and was full of fallacious arguments. Thanks for being a media whore so everyone could see how much of a lying sack of shit you are.
fighting1fefnir 2 years ago 2
@fighting1fefnir LOL
Ummm i did all that too and who said where you were going they were telling you the truth, no evidence? . ..... that's like saying there is no evidence you see and you just get around and grab stuff and describe it based on luck lol
billybonds007 1 year ago
Learn how to spell 'lose'.
KarateJutsuNinja 2 years ago
so this is how kirk cameron lost his mind
types10001 2 years ago
Just watched again, His "blind faith" actually was just ignorance, as he says he just believed whatever thing his teachers were talking about, without mentioning if he actually listened or thought about the topics.
bernardthepie 2 years ago
Blind faith in believing things researched and told to him by real people that actually existed, as supposed to listening to people who talk to the voice in their head.
Also, the "Don't just parrot the arguements of other atheists". I assume this means the quotation of reliable sources by atheists.
bernardthepie 2 years ago
so he was an atheist so he could be smart, and not for ideological reasons? lol what a dumbass
ThanatosBeMyGuide 2 years ago
If he had faith in atheism, he wasn't an atheist.
phocjame 2 years ago
Faith in Atheism?? That is just ridiculous.
bedcatlucre 2 years ago 2
top 10 mistakes that atheists make?
is it something like...
10. losing keys
9. mispelling various words
8. ever considering that there is a god, etc
also, i can no longer look at someone talking with a bible at hand without thinking of edward currant.
"checkmate, atheists!"
Raedan23 2 years ago 3
Reading the Bible made me atheist.
understudy52 2 years ago 17
@understudy52 yeah same here "The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords." (Hosea 13:16 NLT) oh yeah ill teach that to my kids!!!! kill nonbelievers!! gays!! Mexicans!! slavery is ok!!
deafencryption 1 year ago
@understudy52 wrong, you were BORN an atheist, we all are.
puckman 11 months ago
@understudy52 Then why do you atheists have a heart attack when we try to hand them out? You atheists should be handing them out. I can't find any atheist websites handing out free Bibles. Why don't you start one? Put your money where your mouth is.
YesYou123333 7 months ago
@YesYou123333 Because I don't care what other people believe. It doesn't matter to me personally if you are a Christian. I don't want to change your beliefs. I wish you happiness in whatever you believe. My goal is not to convert anyone, but to have a happy life. I hope you have a happy life too.
understudy52 7 months ago
@understudy52 Well, some do. Why don't you and other atheists start a movement to get the ACLU to stop all the religious harassment?
YesYou123333 7 months ago
Embarrassing video
padaxes 2 years ago
No way is this real.
This is clearly Edward Current in Disguise.
I can't believe you guys fell for it.
lol
topeuph 2 years ago
The way he talks about being atheist, he wasn't. He didn't actually look at science or the claims of his friends he just took them for their word, submitting to authority. And that is all he does with god, believing what other people tell him. If Kirk wants any credibility either way he needs to actually look for answers himself, not just rely on people claiming authority.
Zuggy 2 years ago
well thats what 90% of the world does with religion, if they read a book theyd all change their minds
nathanomgnathan 2 years ago
Is it a POE ?
MaikUniversum 2 years ago
i'm hoping to spend eternity far, far away from nutcases like cameron
braindeadbonobo 2 years ago
I lost my Faith in Kirk. =D
ShakaVahn 2 years ago
Witness the power of braindamage
DoctorE0 2 years ago 10
HAHAHAHAHA
years and years of his mom dropping him then telling him was gonna go to hell.
nathanomgnathan 2 years ago
i think im gonna go take a shit now, and then im going to rap it up in a paper cover and sell it as the new testamet.
nathanomgnathan 2 years ago
i did that once. Then I came to a conclusion. Wiping your ass with bullshit is redundant.
TampAnonymous 2 years ago
if your out of toilet paper, and the bible is all you have to wipe your ass, dont use it it'll just make it worse down there. you'd just be adding to it.
nathanomgnathan 2 years ago
so writing the bible on toilet paper was a bad idea?
TampAnonymous 2 years ago
no no. im saying if you choose to wipe your ass with the bible, don't
nathanomgnathan 2 years ago
Wow.. there is a huge debate about this.. just realized today.. I began by looking it up in dictionaries, they all pretty much gave two definitions:
-belief there is no god
-no belief in god
I stated that atheism was the first definition, and you the second one (and by the way the origin of this word is not "a-theism" from engilsh, its "atheos" from greek which has a loos meaning but more or less means godless (also used to describe people that believed in a non accepted religion)
dunkelblau2006 2 years ago
I will admit that both definitions are technically correct....
However, i think the second definition (your definition) was just adopted because of general use... Winston Churchill among other brilliant representatives of "atheism" have stated that they are really agnostic, but for practical reasons they call themselves atheists.
Atheism = no god= unprovable/untestable statement = not 100% scientific => atheist like to think it is 100% scientific => they used alternative meaning.
dunkelblau2006 2 years ago
To expound on your definitions,Agnostic simply means one doesn't feel they posses enough knowledge to decide wether or not God exists. Basically on the fence. However, a Deist believes that God is here just isnt present in our lives because he doesnt care about us.
I'm personally a Christian who believes if you want to see God, see Jesus in the Bible, see what he stood for and live that way, have a personal relationship with him. Worship to God doesnt make slaves us, we fulfill our purpose
dr689632 2 years ago
Not only is Kirk a mental case...but a liar. He was never an atheist. Total fucking whack-job...
Langfordc 2 years ago
Ex atheist my ass. I'm so sick of these fundies claiming to be ex atheists; just another lie. BTW, it's "loses faith" not "looses faith." Atheism is not a matter of faith anyway, as atheism is the lack of belief, we abstain from belief. Saying that atheism is a belief or a religion is like saying that bald is a hair color.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago 2
Every cultist was an atheist: everyone is born an atheist.
Desertphile 2 years ago 3
True that, but he meant as a young man, he was an atheist, which I find not believable.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
Otch, well. Thank you. Off how Fundamentalist Christians have no idea what an atheist even is (simple though it be), and that they love to claim they were one in the past. Many Fundamentalists claim they were Satanists when they were not.
Jeffry Dahlmer was a Fundamentalist Christian all his life but he claimed he was "saved" only after being put in prison.
Fundamentalist Christians and Islamists seem to believe lying is holy.
Desertphile 2 years ago
I so agree.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
I consider myself theist even though I really am an agnostic, but I do think that if this guy was ever an atheist it was very superficial.
Anyway.. i do agree with him in what he says about the "atheist faith". Unfortunately at this point in time it is impossible to call yourself atheist without depending on blind faith. At this point in time the most accurate place to be is to be an agnostic.
dunkelblau2006 2 years ago
Methinks you have the wrong definition of atheist. Commonly misconstrued by non-atheists. An atheist is NOT someone who claims they know there is no god. You can't prove a negative, so that's an untenable position. Look at the word: A = without; theism = belief in god. Therefore the atheist lacks a belief in god, or abstains from belief. Call this agnosticism if you want, but I prefer atheist. Get it now? No blind faith required.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
Well.. I understand your confusion between atheism and agnosticism. I understand that anybody can be an atheist, i know that if one does not believe on a god or any metaphysical existence then you are atheist, in fact we are all born atheist. Agnosticism in the other hand accepts the POSSIBILITY of a god, and my comment was that in order to neglect the possibility of a god you need to have a blind faith because at this point in time it cannot be proofed in a naturalistic way that there is no god
dunkelblau2006 2 years ago
Sorry, sir, but YOU are confused. Atheists admit to the possibility, that's what you do when you abstain from a position. Read again what I was telling you. Look around for other videos by atheists on this question. Atheism is a position of a lack of belief, it's not a belief either for or against. Again, it is simply, "without theism." Agnosticism is about knowing or degrees of knowing. Calling atheism a belief is like calling bald a hair color.
ChuckyJesus666 2 years ago
HAHAHAAH, Maybe he turned his non theism into a
ism or something when he did not believe. Strange
Atheist cant answer lots of questions, so what.
I have read the bible and studied it and believed with all my heart, and now I know its crap.
wonderful
peace
cjunk351 2 years ago 2