8 years on and it's fairlycommon for front-rowers to do this sort of thing (Tonga'uiha, Brits etc), but in 2002 it was something else. Good on you Phil, I think you earned your holiday now!
As a Gloucester fan i would love to have seen vix play just one more game for us, moments like these are going to be missed hugely, good luck Phil rugby is going to miss you.
vickery was great in the third test. in the first he was next to lee mears and there was a height imbalance. plus the referee just took the boks side so when ever anything in the scrum went wrong he penalised vickery
so what? vickery was selected ahead of jones in the first test. not saying that makes him better. was just pointing out that there is no way ON EARTH that vickery is second rate. absolutely stupid comment.
In the first test Tendai Mtawarira destroyed vickery in the scrum and in the second test Tendai Mtawarira was completely nullified by ADAM JONES so you would gree that ADAM JONES is a class above vickery?.
if youre actually gonna base your opinion of a world cup winning prop on one game then there isnt any point debating it with you. 2 points. 1. if adam jones is so much better then why was vickery selected ahead of him in the first place? mcgeechan isnt a moron. he's one of the best managers the northern hemisphere has seen.
If vickery is better than ADAM JONES why was he droped for the second test. What has Ian McGeechan ( an outside half who knows nothing about the scrum) done in the professional game. Jim Aitken grand slam winning PROP (who knows a thing or two about the scrum) said Ian McGeechan ruined rugby in Scotland. Ian McGeechan appointed matt williams as scotland coach, a great appointment that was. Ian McGeechan who rated quinlan as better than croft. One of the best managers seen i doubt it.
so you say you dont trust mcgeechan's judgement but you use the fact that he dropped vickery for one game as an argument?
and croft's reputation has taken a huge leap since the lions. he wasnt held in such high regard by anyone beforehand. it wasnt a huge shock that he wasnt in the original squad. he was tipped for it but not nailed on
looking back on it your comment is even more ridiculous than i thought. why should the fact that jim aitken was a prop mean he is better informed than others to say mcgeechan ruined rugby in scotland. just because this is a discussion about a prop doesnt mean everything a prop says about anything is gospel
2. when scrums are going wrong the referee tends to get fixated on the idea of it being one prop getting it wrong. did you know that since the game the first test referee has apologised to vickery for incorrectly giving penalties against him when both were at fault at different times?
also, vickery came back and out-scrummaged the beast in the third test when he had a more powerful second row behind him
The world cup final, the lion tour and the heineken cup final the penalty count has always gone against vickery, so all refs are wrong. You say with a bigger second row and and hooker he did better, every prop does better with a bigger pack around him. If he is not as good as ADAM JONES who is first rate that makes him second rate.
vickery is a world cup winning, heineken cup winning, premiership winning, 73 times england international, who has played in 5 lions tests. he is nearing the end of his career so is probably not quite the force he once was, but if adam jones acheives anything like the success of vickery then he will be extremely happy. quite how you can call him second rate is beyone me.
If he is not as good as ADAM JONES who is first rate that makes him second rate.
BOLLOCKS. we can disagree about who is better but that doesnt make one of them second rate. we could disagree about who was better between c.ronaldo and messi, that doesnt make one of them second rate. now stop being an idiot.
@drummerboi14 pfffffft beast almost ended vickerys career! and in the final test vickery just held the beast WHICH HES SUPPOSED TO DO !! and and by the way who won the series ???????? you can claim the last test it was a dead rubber match and we rested our stars .. the thing we in the southern hemisphere laugh so much at is you have these fat fuckers who are so unexplosive its scary ! mike tindal still playing u kidding me and sheridan is useless.. fact he would never play super 14.
and the RAGING BULL does it againnn
Dreadepic 1 month ago
Phil Vickery was a fantastic Rugby Player, a legend in the game and a really overall decent chap. Miss seeing him in the England shirt.
london1st 3 months ago
this is what rugby is about; composer, skill and great teamwork.. fuck i love this game.
mootube6 4 months ago
But...but he ran! He ran like ten yards! Phil Vickery!
Applemask 8 months ago
And that was the season (2001/2002) we TECHNICALLY won the league, even though they said Leicester had won it. Gawd the Premiership's cruel to us :'(
beardy5632 1 year ago
its soo wierd looking at kingsholm without the C&G stand and the buildbase
Seaannny 1 year ago
@Corsa14i typical ungracious Saffer cunt. Shouldn't you be abusing one of your servants by now?
jamin50 1 year ago
8 years on and it's fairlycommon for front-rowers to do this sort of thing (Tonga'uiha, Brits etc), but in 2002 it was something else. Good on you Phil, I think you earned your holiday now!
tehmite 1 year ago 7
As a Gloucester fan i would love to have seen vix play just one more game for us, moments like these are going to be missed hugely, good luck Phil rugby is going to miss you.
cherryandwhitearmy 1 year ago
true englishman...will be missed in the modern game but even more so as some one who represented the amateur game as a professional. legend phil !
heatherlad 1 year ago
Phil Simpson-Vickery
schnozz87 1 year ago
Great fucking try by the Giant man!!
GrungeRocker1000 1 year ago
Over SHE goes - lol
ChocManus 1 year ago
Phil loves it.. look at that smile on his face.
gaymer1 2 years ago
they dont come round for props often, you have to enjoy them while you can!
j1985utd 2 years ago
his foots in touch
BOOTH1E 2 years ago
i remember that game so well. classic moment.
lankypanky 2 years ago
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I agree with you malcom, vickery is second rate, he is a right place right time player in the matches that matter he fails.
therugbyguru 2 years ago
white, vickery and sheridan are second rate, we just dont produce quality props like ADAM JONES AND GETHIN JENKINS the lions tour proved that.
malcomtucker1 2 years ago
vickery was great in the third test. in the first he was next to lee mears and there was a height imbalance. plus the referee just took the boks side so when ever anything in the scrum went wrong he penalised vickery
somerandomer 2 years ago
The third test that did not matter, Phil Vickery would not have started if ADAM JONES was not injured.
malcomtucker1 2 years ago
so what? vickery was selected ahead of jones in the first test. not saying that makes him better. was just pointing out that there is no way ON EARTH that vickery is second rate. absolutely stupid comment.
somerandomer 2 years ago
In the first test Tendai Mtawarira destroyed vickery in the scrum and in the second test Tendai Mtawarira was completely nullified by ADAM JONES so you would gree that ADAM JONES is a class above vickery?.
malcomtucker1 2 years ago
if youre actually gonna base your opinion of a world cup winning prop on one game then there isnt any point debating it with you. 2 points. 1. if adam jones is so much better then why was vickery selected ahead of him in the first place? mcgeechan isnt a moron. he's one of the best managers the northern hemisphere has seen.
somerandomer 2 years ago
If vickery is better than ADAM JONES why was he droped for the second test. What has Ian McGeechan ( an outside half who knows nothing about the scrum) done in the professional game. Jim Aitken grand slam winning PROP (who knows a thing or two about the scrum) said Ian McGeechan ruined rugby in Scotland. Ian McGeechan appointed matt williams as scotland coach, a great appointment that was. Ian McGeechan who rated quinlan as better than croft. One of the best managers seen i doubt it.
malcomtucker1 2 years ago
so you say you dont trust mcgeechan's judgement but you use the fact that he dropped vickery for one game as an argument?
and croft's reputation has taken a huge leap since the lions. he wasnt held in such high regard by anyone beforehand. it wasnt a huge shock that he wasnt in the original squad. he was tipped for it but not nailed on
somerandomer 2 years ago
looking back on it your comment is even more ridiculous than i thought. why should the fact that jim aitken was a prop mean he is better informed than others to say mcgeechan ruined rugby in scotland. just because this is a discussion about a prop doesnt mean everything a prop says about anything is gospel
somerandomer 2 years ago
2. when scrums are going wrong the referee tends to get fixated on the idea of it being one prop getting it wrong. did you know that since the game the first test referee has apologised to vickery for incorrectly giving penalties against him when both were at fault at different times?
also, vickery came back and out-scrummaged the beast in the third test when he had a more powerful second row behind him
somerandomer 2 years ago
The world cup final, the lion tour and the heineken cup final the penalty count has always gone against vickery, so all refs are wrong. You say with a bigger second row and and hooker he did better, every prop does better with a bigger pack around him. If he is not as good as ADAM JONES who is first rate that makes him second rate.
malcomtucker1 2 years ago
vickery is a world cup winning, heineken cup winning, premiership winning, 73 times england international, who has played in 5 lions tests. he is nearing the end of his career so is probably not quite the force he once was, but if adam jones acheives anything like the success of vickery then he will be extremely happy. quite how you can call him second rate is beyone me.
somerandomer 2 years ago
If he is not as good as ADAM JONES who is first rate that makes him second rate.
BOLLOCKS. we can disagree about who is better but that doesnt make one of them second rate. we could disagree about who was better between c.ronaldo and messi, that doesnt make one of them second rate. now stop being an idiot.
somerandomer 2 years ago
lol vickery just smashes his way through. sheridan and vickery great props in England rugby
CLIXBYWOODYCLIXBY 2 years ago
hes the best tighthead england has to offer not that fat bastard julien white
fkfjjfnjdfvnm 2 years ago
whites a disgrace, lazy, just wants to fight, useless bastard
billionaireboysclub6 2 years ago
He's a machine
A penalty giving away machine
Blongers1 2 years ago
Haha
Crushem12 2 years ago
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Fat loser was OWNED by the Beast on the Lions tour. Guys career is over.
kittykgirl 2 years ago
the beast wasnt so 'beasty' yesterday though was he?
j1985utd 2 years ago 3
LMFAO vickery and sheridan had him easy, the beast? My ass sheridan decked him in the 3rd test easy.
drummerboi14 2 years ago
@drummerboi14 pfffffft beast almost ended vickerys career! and in the final test vickery just held the beast WHICH HES SUPPOSED TO DO !! and and by the way who won the series ???????? you can claim the last test it was a dead rubber match and we rested our stars .. the thing we in the southern hemisphere laugh so much at is you have these fat fuckers who are so unexplosive its scary ! mike tindal still playing u kidding me and sheridan is useless.. fact he would never play super 14.
corsa14i 1 year ago
@corsa14i the beast is young and nothing compared to vickery or sheridan, they'd eat him for breakfast.
drummerboi14 1 year ago