You guys just don't get it. At the point you show, that the video is paused at, the ball is already behind the goalpost. The ball goes ABOVE the goalpost then goes right!
It's over the goal post, sorry cleveland fans, but the kick was good. The camera angle can be deceiving. That kick looked good to me, despite the poor angle.
Its ok though brownies, when cincinnati kicks your asses twice again this season, maybe it will be a phantom touchdown that should have been called. Who knows, maybe your defense can outscore your offense.
It's not even close....if you look at the reverse angle after the play, you see the kick from behind. You can even see the Browns fans react as it goes through. They are right behind the goal posts...Beggers night is in October!
Would all the Browns fans get over it. It went through. On TV its a bad angle. Just like in one of your games went you went for it on 4th down. On TV when they measured it, it looked short but the refs said 1st down. It was because it was a bad angle on tv. So Browns get over it. You guys lost and The Bengals won.
Everybody knows the Bengals pay the refs so they can win against a weak team but win they play a good team they lose it and when they payed the ref against the Raiders the Raiders managed to win because the ref knew it was wrong and took the bengals money and anyway the BENGALS SUCK.
@JunkyardWillieLIVES the bengals paying refs? is that for real tell me that a joke right... maybe the browns payed the ref to call against them so they could get a better draft pick....?
the ball went through the uprights while it was still overtop of the posts. the reason the ball looks like it deflected off the post is because it hit the net. look at the height at which the ball makes contact with the net. add to that, the net is12 yards past the goal post, and it confirms that the field goal was good. also, look at all the browns players reactions. everysingle one put thier heads down after it went through immediately before the refs even made the call.
Did all the Browns fans flunk geometry? Look at how far behind the goalposts the net is. Draw a vertical line down from the net to the ground, then from there draw a line along the ground to the hash mark. Graham would have had to bend it like Beckham to send the ball wide and then hook it back into the net where it hit. The ref stands directly under the upright. He can see where the ball goes.
the ref who blew the call is actually a browns fan.. he realized that cleveland has two terrible qb's and that they need to have a high pick to get sam bradford..
actually, i'm a bengals fan, and after the kick i started yelling because i thought he missed it.. i was shocked that it was called good, so i'll take these close wins anyway they come..
The 1986 Browns AFC Championship against the Broncos, the broncos kick was definitely wide right, this one barely made it.
But all I got to say is that tying the Bengals wasn't going to get the Browns into the playoffs. Might as well give the Bengals the win so they can win the division and not the Steelers or Ravens. Also, this gives the Browns a better draft pick.
Look, I'm a huge Browns fan and also initially thought it was wide right watching from home. But if you watch the replay closely, the evidence is the Browns players. They themselves see it go through and almost all their heads drop simultaneously knowing they just lost the game. None of them reacts as though it was wide right.
LMFAO....this video deserves a spot on FAILBLOG. If you realize the ball is being kicked from the left hashmark, the football clearly lands where it should on the net, indicating a good FG.
This is obviously a comment from a BROWNS fan...They have ALWAYS been SORE losers....but losers they are. You would think with all the practice they have had a being losers they would be BETTE at it.
I'm really begining to think the Browns front office wants to lose every game, if they have the worst record they get the best pick in the draft. And to Rtint30, have you been following Tebow the past 4 years, the guy has the brains of Tom Brady and can scramble like Bret Favre, what's not to love.
1. 2 min no booth review needs to be changed if ball is ABOVE the uprights review it.
2. Need cameras to review the play so we dont get "not enough evidence". League should have EVERY team to put small HD cameras on the BACKSIDE of each uptrights pointing up.
Problem would be solved.
HD cameras would be placed BEHIND the post centered, and thinner than the uprights themselves, and wouldnt block the ball in anyway from passing INSIDE the upgrights.
I was at the game. I was at the right of the goalpost. Me and my dad both thought that he had missed the field goal. But... who cares? Bengals win, Browns lose. Not like it would have made a difference in their season. It was a good birthday for me. Go Bengals :]
One more reason to take the "human" element out of sports. Humans mess up too much but cameras never lie! The rest of the league maybe laughing at the Browns now, but they'll have the last laugh next season when they get Tim Tebow in the draft!
clearly it was not a good kick. nfl ref's are awful..have ever noticed how much time runs off the clock when it's supposed to have stopped? easily 3 seconds every time..the nba doesn't allow that bs to go down. of course, the nba has their own problems with multiple phantom fouls called every game.
however, the browns are a joke and should be happy to get a better draft position.
the 2 browns players on the left side of the field, the ones with the best views, both walked away dejected after the ball went "THROUGH" the uprights.....i still dont think it went through, but they sure acted like it did.
Notl ike it really matters. The Browns odds are wouldn't have scored anyways cause their offense is completely pathetic. Instead of 0-4 you'd be 0-3-1. Whoopy.
Well if you pause it at the 45 second mark the ball for some reason disappeared. Doesn't matter the angle, depth, or whatever. The only way the ball would disappear is if something was in front of it... maybe the goal post, it's a shame the NFL can not admit it's mistakes. If it was good you would see the ball over the goal post, which is clearly not the case in this clip.
Must be an optical thing cause the Bengals players started celebrating before the ref signals..and no Browns players celebrate before the ref signals...
but it' not. look at it. at no point does the ball go through the uprights. pause it several times from 21 seconds to 24 seconds. the upright blurs the ball, not vice-versa. Also - if you look closely at 23 seconds, the two browns players with the best view signal "no good" and a few Bengals players look dejected and confused. they wait for the refs signal to celebrate.
it is a bad angle, cant tell you visually if it was good or bad, i dont care who won the game or not, but this angle isnt good enough for me to say the Browns were cheated.
well this is 2012 and the bengals are in the fuckin play-offs bam-right in the kisser!
jeaze85 2 months ago
@jhet82 Look at us now. Kick your ass both times this year and we are 7-4 while you're sitting down there at 4-7.
SJRea96 3 months ago
You can't tell from that angle.
YesYou123333 7 months ago
why can't they just have cameras shooting up along the uprights from the ground up?
boygenius88 1 year ago
You guys just don't get it. At the point you show, that the video is paused at, the ball is already behind the goalpost. The ball goes ABOVE the goalpost then goes right!
officerbarbrady12 1 year ago
It's over the goal post, sorry cleveland fans, but the kick was good. The camera angle can be deceiving. That kick looked good to me, despite the poor angle.
Its ok though brownies, when cincinnati kicks your asses twice again this season, maybe it will be a phantom touchdown that should have been called. Who knows, maybe your defense can outscore your offense.
spivedog77 1 year ago
@spivedog77 Wanna keep talking guy? Bungles are 2-10 and the Browns already kicked their ass. Hahahahaha sucks to be you faggott.
jhet82 1 year ago
Also, the browns player on the top right corner was signaling no good
bbbeaverboys 1 year ago
As a Lions fan I think that that call was horrible
bbbeaverboys 1 year ago
Have to agree, if this happened to a team like Dallas or New England, people would be wanting to start world war 3.
It was missed. I think the only reason they called it 'good' was becuase they wanted the game over with, it almost came to a tie.
LivingWorstNightmare 2 years ago
It's not even close....if you look at the reverse angle after the play, you see the kick from behind. You can even see the Browns fans react as it goes through. They are right behind the goal posts...Beggers night is in October!
Swarm333 2 years ago
I think they wanted to aviod a tie which would have been the Bengals 2nd straight year.
AutoRockinRacing94 2 years ago
if they won they would be 0-3-1 ?
e212504g 2 years ago
Would all the Browns fans get over it. It went through. On TV its a bad angle. Just like in one of your games went you went for it on 4th down. On TV when they measured it, it looked short but the refs said 1st down. It was because it was a bad angle on tv. So Browns get over it. You guys lost and The Bengals won.
Bengal050 2 years ago
As a Cowboys fan it was clearly wide right. This is why all scoring plays should be reviewble.
scottybbadd 2 years ago
It's funny you say that because It was reviewed and no matter what it went through the uprights. The kick was good. Everybody needs to get over it.
Bengal050 2 years ago
Fuck the State of Ohio
gordo3365 2 years ago
if its brown flush it down. the browns SUCK
Tbone8787 2 years ago
Everybody knows the Bengals pay the refs so they can win against a weak team but win they play a good team they lose it and when they payed the ref against the Raiders the Raiders managed to win because the ref knew it was wrong and took the bengals money and anyway the BENGALS SUCK.
JunkyardWillieLIVES 2 years ago
@JunkyardWillieLIVES the bengals paying refs? is that for real tell me that a joke right... maybe the browns payed the ref to call against them so they could get a better draft pick....?
jeager3love 1 year ago
BENGALS SUCK!
videoalliance 2 years ago
why does every Bengals player celebrate and every brown fan pouts
cashen33 2 years ago
Y dident mangini challange!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Firefoxairsoft223 2 years ago
@Firefoxairsoft223 You can't challenge a field goal
officerbarbrady12 1 year ago
the ball went through the uprights while it was still overtop of the posts. the reason the ball looks like it deflected off the post is because it hit the net. look at the height at which the ball makes contact with the net. add to that, the net is12 yards past the goal post, and it confirms that the field goal was good. also, look at all the browns players reactions. everysingle one put thier heads down after it went through immediately before the refs even made the call.
navyguy50 2 years ago
Did all the Browns fans flunk geometry? Look at how far behind the goalposts the net is. Draw a vertical line down from the net to the ground, then from there draw a line along the ground to the hash mark. Graham would have had to bend it like Beckham to send the ball wide and then hook it back into the net where it hit. The ref stands directly under the upright. He can see where the ball goes.
Teratornis 2 years ago
well then how do you explain the ball being outside the upright
FosterFuel 2 years ago
the ref who blew the call is actually a browns fan.. he realized that cleveland has two terrible qb's and that they need to have a high pick to get sam bradford..
actually, i'm a bengals fan, and after the kick i started yelling because i thought he missed it.. i was shocked that it was called good, so i'll take these close wins anyway they come..
balooko31 2 years ago
The 1986 Browns AFC Championship against the Broncos, the broncos kick was definitely wide right, this one barely made it.
But all I got to say is that tying the Bengals wasn't going to get the Browns into the playoffs. Might as well give the Bengals the win so they can win the division and not the Steelers or Ravens. Also, this gives the Browns a better draft pick.
jhbengals07 2 years ago
They killed JFK you think they couldn't fix a football game. GO BROWNS!!!!!!!
polishmidget 2 years ago
Look, I'm a huge Browns fan and also initially thought it was wide right watching from home. But if you watch the replay closely, the evidence is the Browns players. They themselves see it go through and almost all their heads drop simultaneously knowing they just lost the game. None of them reacts as though it was wide right.
jabman549 2 years ago 2
LMFAO....this video deserves a spot on FAILBLOG. If you realize the ball is being kicked from the left hashmark, the football clearly lands where it should on the net, indicating a good FG.
WHO DAT! LETS GO SAINTS
waazup2 2 years ago
not to mention the Browns players are also upset before the refs raise their arms. again at :24
trush44 2 years ago 2
umm..the Benglas line is celebrating before the refs even raise their arms. :24
trush44 2 years ago
and.... FREEZE at :24. the ball dissapers behind the yellow pole.
ryandude2448 2 years ago
It went through. It's a bad camera angle, and the ball was kicked higher than the side posts.
Hatalles 2 years ago
This is obviously a comment from a BROWNS fan...They have ALWAYS been SORE losers....but losers they are. You would think with all the practice they have had a being losers they would be BETTE at it.
1951suz 2 years ago
you would think with English class you would be
"bette"(r) at spelling.
Cinci fans= most disloyal, bandwagon fans in the NFL. Hands down. Everyone EXCEPT bunghole fans realize that.
Zer0Faith2003 2 years ago
Not true, Steelers fan get that prestigious honor. Just wait till they have one bad year.
jhbengals07 2 years ago
ur stupid of course it was a good kick its just the angle ur lookin at.
tmacfan1991 2 years ago
Dude, my 5 year old brother knew that wasnt good
braxinIV 2 years ago
I'm really begining to think the Browns front office wants to lose every game, if they have the worst record they get the best pick in the draft. And to Rtint30, have you been following Tebow the past 4 years, the guy has the brains of Tom Brady and can scramble like Bret Favre, what's not to love.
kosarsbaby 2 years ago
1. 2 min no booth review needs to be changed if ball is ABOVE the uprights review it.
2. Need cameras to review the play so we dont get "not enough evidence". League should have EVERY team to put small HD cameras on the BACKSIDE of each uptrights pointing up.
Problem would be solved.
HD cameras would be placed BEHIND the post centered, and thinner than the uprights themselves, and wouldnt block the ball in anyway from passing INSIDE the upgrights.
Simple easy fix.
moreoverunity 2 years ago
we got our win from tha brandon stokley catch
thanks refsss
themavkidd 2 years ago
this video doesn't show anything, the picture is horrible. if it was indeed a miss the NFL would've apologized by now
michielutti 2 years ago
Edited... Why does the ball dissapear twice?
BlaqOptic 2 years ago
I'm glad we didn't tie. It would have messed with our high draft position. We need to get Eric Berry as early as possible, imo.
rtint30 2 years ago
I was at the game. I was at the right of the goalpost. Me and my dad both thought that he had missed the field goal. But... who cares? Bengals win, Browns lose. Not like it would have made a difference in their season. It was a good birthday for me. Go Bengals :]
Knouter16 2 years ago
Wow, how do you screw that up if that's what you do for a living? Referees are terrible.
jleack 2 years ago
AMEN! anyone else screws up this bad in their job, and they get fired.
LeBrownsTown 2 years ago
Unless they're the Cleveland Browns...
VolCrazy156 2 years ago
@LeBrownsTown would have been a tie
Undertaker5712 1 year ago
@jleack man you are right! it is really plain to see there! i am a saints fan and neutral and i see that was no good!
andrew1972able 9 months ago
Poor Browns, can't ever catch a break.
CentipedeSisters 2 years ago
One more reason to take the "human" element out of sports. Humans mess up too much but cameras never lie! The rest of the league maybe laughing at the Browns now, but they'll have the last laugh next season when they get Tim Tebow in the draft!
kosarsbaby 2 years ago
In what, the 4th round?
NightHawk11and81 2 years ago
I don't want Tebow on our team. Most system QBs are busts.
rtint30 2 years ago
lol, right, he missed it, and if it was Pats & Boys, it woulda been drama
3aav3 2 years ago
who cares browns suck
sumardey 2 years ago
100% WIDE RIGHT...NBA, MLB, NHL and NFL are fixed...too much money is at stake for it not to be rigged.
evets207 2 years ago
Child, Please.
b53O 2 years ago
clearly it was not a good kick. nfl ref's are awful..have ever noticed how much time runs off the clock when it's supposed to have stopped? easily 3 seconds every time..the nba doesn't allow that bs to go down. of course, the nba has their own problems with multiple phantom fouls called every game.
however, the browns are a joke and should be happy to get a better draft position.
StandupShowcase 2 years ago
the 2 browns players on the left side of the field, the ones with the best views, both walked away dejected after the ball went "THROUGH" the uprights.....i still dont think it went through, but they sure acted like it did.
thundrthumbs8 2 years ago
Notl ike it really matters. The Browns odds are wouldn't have scored anyways cause their offense is completely pathetic. Instead of 0-4 you'd be 0-3-1. Whoopy.
Swazi4 2 years ago
Well if you pause it at the 45 second mark the ball for some reason disappeared. Doesn't matter the angle, depth, or whatever. The only way the ball would disappear is if something was in front of it... maybe the goal post, it's a shame the NFL can not admit it's mistakes. If it was good you would see the ball over the goal post, which is clearly not the case in this clip.
MrJasonr2003 2 years ago 2
good spot man! if I had noticed that i would have pausd it at 45 seconds. very well put!
LeBrownsTown 2 years ago
Must be an optical thing cause the Bengals players started celebrating before the ref signals..and no Browns players celebrate before the ref signals...
sabiki74 2 years ago
but it' not. look at it. at no point does the ball go through the uprights. pause it several times from 21 seconds to 24 seconds. the upright blurs the ball, not vice-versa. Also - if you look closely at 23 seconds, the two browns players with the best view signal "no good" and a few Bengals players look dejected and confused. they wait for the refs signal to celebrate.
LeBrownsTown 2 years ago
@sabiki74 Look at the browns player on the back right of the screen. He is CLEARLY giving a "no good" signal.
dpotter79 1 year ago
NO GOOD !!!!
aureliopro 2 years ago
it is a bad angle, cant tell you visually if it was good or bad, i dont care who won the game or not, but this angle isnt good enough for me to say the Browns were cheated.
mwcarolina 2 years ago
they should review FG's
miacanes5 2 years ago
yeah the refs must of had money on the bengals. That kick was waaaaaaaaaaaay wide right
cleveland216man 2 years ago
figures. what a bunch of crap.
BuckeyeSteve623 2 years ago
lame
OSUbuckIgal 2 years ago