What if it's true? Then you WILL be able to present solid evidence to demonstrate it is. If you can't, then how can you claim it's true? Disproving evolution wouldn't make your god real. It's simply discarding one of the options.
Btw, atheism and evolution aren't mutually inclusive, and there are plenty of believers that accept evolution.
If evolution turns out to be false, then we will keep looking for answers. Your god remains out of the picture, since there's no evidence for his existence.
I was gonna watch this vid knowing it criticized my views on the god problem since I like a challenge, but then I saw a few things. 1st, caps lock for most of the title. Never a good sign. 2nd, erroneous yet classical association of evolution with atheism. The Vatican admits evolution is a fact. 3rd, the description is a madhouse. Caps lock too of course, but the text in and of itself is pure madness, and makes the writer a nutbag. That's when I knew this wouldn't challenge me but make me vomit.
IF there were some alternate reality where evolution, y'know the thing with PROOF of it's existence, wasn't real and the words of a primitive 2000 year old civilization turned out to be fact, I'd accept it. It would mean that there is PROOF, hard evidence of your version of God.
Even IF the Bible were true, I would still not believe and/or be happy that I didn't becuz ur god is an evil, demiurge...an immoral tyrant. Our morals have far surpassed that of ur god!
You said "What stops you from wanting to really see if there is a creator or not?".
Let me answer by describing a God who's existence I would have problem doubting. First, he would be visible and audible to all beings in the whole universe, if he is omnipresent and wants to guide us, then praying to him would yield a response as concrete as seeing+hearing a lion.
If he is all loving, he would not punish us for not knowing if he exists if his existence isn't apparent for some of us.
If the Bible is correct, then I would believe, but probably not "follow" or worship this God.
If there is a God, I would sincerely hope it wasn't the God of the Bible. Jesus said some nice things, but he also supported the God of the old testament. The OT God advocated kidnapping, rape, slavery and genocide. That's why I would not worship him, even if it ment an eternity in hell.
"What ifs" are useless if there's no evidence to back them up. If you make a claim, in this case, that an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good being, aka "God" exists, then you have the burden of proof to back up this claim. In fact, I would argue that the God claim is the most extraordinary claim ever made, but not only is extraordinary evidence lacking, but even ordinary evidence. Therefore I refuse to believe in superstitious nonsense and live as a slave in terror of Hell.
Heard it all before .. What if the Buddhists are the real "god-inspired " ones ? .. What if the Hindus are the real ones ? ... What if the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the real one ? What if YOU are wrong ? Why can't you accept the reality of our life on this Earth ?
What if when your time for judgment comes, and God is actually Allah, and he asks why you chose to be an infidel? What would your answer be?
If your god does exist, your answer to Allah (or any other god that probably doesn't exist for that matter), would probably resemble an atheists response to your god, should your choice be right.
The info on this video says "This video is NOT "PASCALS WAGER"" but it is exactly Pascal's wager. (as seen at 1:58 - 2:18 and most obviously at 5:15). These are old tired arguments that do nothing to support the existence of any god, let alone yours. Still waiting on the tiniest shred of evidence of a god, not evidence that supports the age of religion. We know religion is old. Old and just as bogus now as it was then.
If there truly was a god, he should let his presence be known rather than expect people to put all their trust in the word of OTHER HUMAN BEINGS and believe in him. That's what most religious people don't seem to realize. You're not following the word of god. You're following the word of god as people wrote it.
In the far future, when science rules the world and religion is dead, time travelers will come back to scan the brains of the atheists of the past at their moments of death and recreate them in new bodies in the future. Those annoying religious folks will be left behind and stay dead. Stop believing now if you want to live forever.
Will this really happen? Probably not, but why take a chance? What if you're wrong? Renounce your faith now, just in case.
"What if there is a God? What if there is judgement to face? How are you gonna stand before God?"
I would say to God: Why have you created a universe where science is so easy and sensible to believe and religion is no obvious to think of as mythology -
And then judge us for believing in science???
Judging us for using our logical thinking, judging us, for doing nothing wrong, from the human perspective.
// Homo Sapiens came to the Earth and said: "Let there be superstition". And there was superstition. And Homo Sapiens saw the superstition - that it was comforting. //
He is saying- What is the point of not believing in life after death? When you have the opportunity to have at least a chance of living eternally, versus living eternally, but in suffering, because there will be no death to heal you of the torment in Hell. Also, Christians try to spread the message becuase we do not want you to have to suffer in Hell :] Lastly, trust me with this, its hard to believe, but the Devil and his demons really do close our minds to the truth, and"plants"seedsofdoubt
What if there's final judjment? By whom? By the bible gelous and vengfull god? Fuck you it's what i woud say to my defence. I evolved beyound your primitive way of thinking and your trial is making me sick.
I have WANTED to know if god was really real or not. You said that if you really wanted to know you would, but that's not the case. And if one more person accuses me of not being sincere, or a TRUE Christian for the 18 years that I was, I am going to FLIP! What are you going to do when you find out that someone else's supposed god is real? I know many many people that have had the same experience as you, only with a different god. How do you explain that? Oh yea.. they're 'crazy', you're not.
The other problem with your premise is that you equate "finding out if god is real" with your preconceived notion that he is, or that those of us that don't believe haven't or don't try to ascertain exactly that.
I find one serious problem with your premise.....it makes the incorrect assumption that if there was a god, that evolution would be false. They aren't mutually exclusive.
That said, there is a lot of evidence for one, and none for the other, so I find it unlikely.
If there is a god, then he "created" us using evolution, and evolution is a tool of god's.
And sorry, but the whole "how are you going ot stand before god" riff IS Pascal's wager, whether or not you want to acknowledge that
Sorry 4 so many posts but I see what you're doing as damaging & I wanted to tell you why.
I know people who have been adversely affected by Xian belief. They live in constant fear. They try to be perfect bcuz they think they can't enter heaven unless they are. They're afraid to "think" bcuz of "thought crimes" the bible teaches. (thinking a sin, makes one guilty of sin). And what's the payoff? Eternal torment! What crime would ever deem such a sadistically evil act of vengeance?
Tell us C4C, have u ever wondered why jesus hasn't said a word, hasn't shown his face, hasn't given us 1 miracle, not answered 1 prayer, never healed 1 amputee, has been totally silent 4 the past 2K years??? U ever wonder why? I mean, since our salvation is the most important message in the bible, why wouldn't he simply show he's real? Why play hide 'n seek? Why not simply show us, who really want to know, that he's real? I know, do u?
I'm content knowing there's no ghost floating overhead.
If every word of scripture were true, it would mean that god "was" an evil monster after all. (His words & actions). In fact, a psychological analysis of the Yahweh god character of the OT reveals that he was a psychopath! Btw, I can provide evidence for all my claims...can u?
So, there's no way I'd go back to being a Xian. I can't respect, much less love, a being I have to fear! This god says he gives us free will, yet tells us if we don't do his will, he'll damn us to eternal torment!
If Yahweh is the real and true creator of the universe and us as people, and if the Bible is an accurate description of his character then we are truly in trouble. The god of the bible is a very evil and tyrannical being.
Even if it were real, I wouldn't worship him. I don't think that tyrants are worth following.
aaah, whaT if? well, if in fact the christian god is real, then i would be screwed and would go to hell.
by the same token, what if allah is a true god. what if the queran is the real word of god?
i also find it funny that you lump evolution with atheism. the two concepts have nothing to do with each other. Ken miller is a noted evolutionary biologist that is also a christian. in fact, more than half of evolutionary biologists are christians.
I refuse to pray for a god to answer me. When people furiously search inside their minds for an answer, they get one. However it is a fairy tale that keeps them satisfied. Doesn't that process make perfect sense if humans are to survive?
You have a point that religion can make you happy. I like being happy too but I would rather have my ability to reason. I would rather have individual minds make the world a better place than a hive mind.
If god appears to me (chances of it being your god is very slim, considering there are thousands) and shows him or herself to me, I will admit that I am wrong.
I see no clear-cut evidence of ANY god existing, including your own.
Besides, if (your) god is real, I wouldn't want to worship such a misogynistic, genocidal, megalomaniacal jerk. You may yell "But the New Testament!", I don't care. Your god was an ass in the old test. It's like Hitler changing his tune and running for office.
WHAT IF WHAT IF WHAT IF. There is no evidence of God, and the side effects of religion are too negative to justify the selfish decision to believe in faulty morals, anti-scientific beliefs, and dangerous absolutes.
If there is a God, I am a good enough person to get into heaven as long as God isn't childish enough to reject people for not believing in something for which there is no evidence. In that case I don't care what he thinks. I don't want to live forever, and God doesn't give purpose.
what if its true? theres around 0% chance its true. if their is a supreme creator why would he give a shit that i didnt believe in him? answer that one
If it turns out that the christian god exists it I would still think that god is a malevolent force although instead of being a fictional character god would be real. I would ignore any "judgment" from a being whose main solution to problems is killing and suffering i.e the flood, jesus, job etc. Of course I would love to find out the truth but believing in god and worshiping are two different things.
Evolution is not 'wrong', we have empirical proof that it occurs. We can even observe it in real time. (research: Italian Wall Lizard or Microbial Evolution). Since we atheists are scientific and skeptical in nature, I'll tell you EXACTLY how long we will resist believing in God: Disprove evolution and provide strong evidence of the existence of god. I guarantee you that 100% of all true atheists will become theists overnight. However, no theist has EVER provided convincing evidence.
In what way is this not a baroque, rococo embellishment of Pascal's wager? This video doesn't even have any entertainment value! There's 10 minutes I'll never get back.
So wha if you right and I'm wrong? Being religious just to SAVE YOU ASS is wrong and you all know it. "Faith" should come from the internal soul and used a guide for everyday life, not as a safety net. Idiots.
06:45 "If you ask god, and he doesn't come to be.. okay, you can say there's no god"
For many non believers, this is exactly the case... They have given god every chance to answer and heard nothing but silence. So by your own test... Okay, there's no god.
How are you going to say this isn't "Pascal's Wager"? This is EXACTLY Pascal's Wager... you just softened it up a bit and dragged it out for 10 minutes...
What if you're wrong though? What if it's not the Christian God? What if it's Zeus? Jupiter? The Muslim God? What if it's not your particular Christian sect and you go to hell on a technicality? There is nothing but a book and unquestioning faith--the lack of thought, the LACK of discovery, and the acceptance of hypocrisy and blindness--to support your argument.
Besides, if God condemns people to hell because they simply didn't believe, then YOU'RE the demon-worshipper.
what if you're wrong? If you're wrong you will have wasted your entire life being scared of your delusion.
You probably are, because if you yourself were born into a hindu household you would be a hindu, if your were born in Japan, you'd be a shintoist etc.
Fact is, if you were completely ignorant of Christianity, you could never come up with it for yourself isolated from the scriptures. This is proof that there is no doubt that religion is made up by people. We created god not vice versa.
What if I am wrong? I do not collaborate with sadistic tyrants. Even without the doctrine of Eternal Torment the god of the Bible is the most evil, cruel, murderous, sadistic figure in all of literature. If I turn out to be wrong, if YHVH exists and eternally burns those who refuse to bow down to him, I hope to have the moral courage to spit in his eye as he passes judgement and to enter hell still giving him the finger.
So, if I do end up in front of god when I die, I'll say:
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"Sorry god, but you didn't reveal yourself to me. You didn't give me my 'Road to Damascus' moment.
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You parted the Red sea for the Israelites! You spoke to Moses through the burning bush! You walked on water for your disciples! You revealed your wounds to Thomas! Why should these people be shown proof, but not me?
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You knew when you created me that I would need to see to believe. Yet you showed me NOTHING!"
And I know you guys are going to say that I need "faith"... Well, I wont take things on faith alone, sorry. And why should I?
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After all, god proved his existence (so they say) to the Israelites and early Christians with great miracles. He knocked Paul of Tarsus off his horse!
If there indeed is a god, and he really did create me, then he gave me the skeptic mind that I possess.
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Like the "hairs on my head," I was born with this brain... a brain that analyzes evidence to make it's decisions. A just god would not punished me for only believing in things that can be proven?
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And if he would, I want nothing to do with him anyways.
What choice are you talking about ? If i give you a gun and tell you, you have the choice to shoot yourself or to leave, is that really a choice or is that black mailing ? A choice made under pressure is NOT a choice...
To paraphrase yourself : "There is no what if or who's right or wrong etc..." You just can't make sense as you contradict yourself form one video to another...
BTW, Pascal's wager is the most hypocrit stance one can have...
Personally i believe IF god exists then he is sadistic, and cruel and i would not want to be near him in any way, nor a part of what he has to offer for someone he deems "perfect". The reasoning being is that i think if he is, all mighty, and gave us free will then he would know that people would doubt his existence and for that to be punishable seems self defeating to me. It means that life is a social experiment with torture or sorrow for failing the game... Exist or not i will have no part
@PhilosophicalTwerks (1) First of all faith in Jesus Christ nor the bible has "been debunked" The bible has manuscripts dating 1,000's of years back. The factual findings of the "Dead Sea Scrolls" of Isaiah, plus The Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, is the only remanent left standing from a temple King Solomon built, who was the son of King David, So that takes us back 700BC
@Choice4Christ "Ask god if he's real" you said. Asking god if he's real presupposes ones belief in the god. People don't talk to people they don't believe exist in the first place. I'm not writhing this comment to you without the innitial assumption that you exist to read it. Asking god to show his existence to you and then feeling that he's done so and claiming your belief is based on that revelation is fallacious. You already believed in the first place and merely reinforced your priar belief.
@PhilosophicalTwerks (2) If you can't accept scientific carbon proof data for the papaya scrolls that make up the bible, then you can not use that data to proof in Rome, Ceaser, Augustus, Nero, Domotion now can you? Even just 2,000 years ago, history, science, archeology (not only does circles around) Darwin's "evolution theory" just 200 years ago,
@Choice4Christ The scrolls that make up the Bible have been dated to roughly 100 years after the death of Christ. So how is the age of the Bible proof of anything?
Darwin's discovery may only be 200 years old, but it is a fact today, thanks to our scientific knowledge and technology. We have a number of ways of determining Evolution is true. I'll be happy to give you that info right here, if you like
You speak of Carbon Dating, yet most Xians deny that any form of dating is accurate when they claim the Earth is only 6K yrs old. Of course, we have more methods of dating now. We have tree ring data going back 10K 500 yrs. Cosmology is another.
@PhilosophicalTwerks (3) but actual facts proof the bible, and the cruxification of Jesus Christ and the disciples, up to 381AD when Constantine mandated church & state together, then Catholism took a turn for the worse, right thru the Dark Ages. Please tell me what evidence do you have your claim?
@Choice4Christ (philosophicaltwerks is my second channel btw) blah blah blah...I mean just to be perfectly honest, I don't really like pwning christians. Its first of all either too easy or their points have been debunked or discredited too many times. In your case, its both of those. However, I showed your channel to mobby32, a 15 year old atheist. He's gonna take you to the pawn shop, and get ready for others to follow. You're welcome.
@Choice4Christ Generally there has to be some reason in the first place to suspect that a given set of propositions might have some truth to it BEFORE one feels any need to start asking "what if (insert random unsupported notion) is really true?". Propositions such as a very specific god with very specific expectations of us, virgin birth, resurrection, immortal souls, judgement, - you need to provide some reason in the first place to suspect this to be the case or it's just random speculation.
@Choice4Christ Even if Christianity were proved true... I still would not worship the God of the Bible. He is a megalomaniacal, genocidal, baby-killing, freak
@Choice4Christ The question isn't "what if there is a god?" but rather "how do I distinguish between the thousands of religions, even the manufactured ones like Scientology, or do I just believe what my parents taught me because I was born in a society that worshiped that invisible friend?" If Christian God was true then he created an immoral system with massive violence (hell). Even if true I don't choose to worship a violent tribe leader who established a system of eternal torture.
Please provide any evidence you have for the resurrection, for the zombies crawling out of their graves, etc.
The fact is, there is no evidence for the historicity of jesus. Not Suetonius, Josephus, Pliny, they've all been debunked. The most important factors relating to scripture is that there are no originals! It makes no difference how many copies you have, nor how far u think they go back, they mean nothing if u don't have the originals! None exist of any!
@PhilosophicalTwerks THIS IS THE EASIEST QUESTION EVER.... However your directly saying your views are "Right" so instead ill imagine another god... Thor.
If i am wrong. There has to be evidence that shows that im wrong. Eyewitnesses or personal feelings does not qualify as "Evidence". So someone saying they saw Thor in a chariot above does not count.
I most then be able to test this new facts myself. Even if i wont i most still have the option.
Then we will shift beliefs to be more accurate, I dont even have to watch this vid to answer the Title... dum theists.... what the hell do you expect anyway?
You stated in your video that if you were wrong and no god existed that it would be fine with you because that would be the end. But what if God does exist, only it's not the god you believe in , and now your in the same boat you think atheists are in. There are hundreds of religons and all say drastically differant things about death and what happens after. Why is your version so much better then all the rest? Where's the evidence?
Creation is right: God blew his bad breath( no toothpaste yet) over a clump of mud and voila, it became alive and upright, and all was well. Question, did Adan have a penis ? Because Eve was only created when Adam complained about loneliness. What if god had given Adam a motorbike or a computer and he felt satisfied, no longer lonely, we would still be living in the garden of eden
If your position turned out to be true, I would ask god why he left evidence to "imply" that we evolved. DNA, Endogenous Retro Viruses, Chromosome 2. I would ask why he never healed amputees. I would ask why he allowed 5 year old children to be RAPED, TORTURED and MURDERED, while they screamed in agony, only to complete his "plan". Then I'd ask him why he was a fucking asshole.
For evolution to be wrong, we would need to find a fossilised rabbit, dog or human in the same period as as a fossilised dinosaur. There are literally millions of fossils around the world. More discovered daily. But not one fossil of a dog, rabbit or modern man dating older than 200,000 years exists. That would blow evolution out of the water and give credibilty to a God. Not sure which one though. And dinosaur fossils? How old? From 65 MILLION years plus some!!!!!!!!
I'd love to help you and appeal to your logical side, but am afraid it would me trying to convince you the earth is not flat. The earth is more than 4,000 years old etc... Not enough space here to give you an answer.
Do you really, completely not know why we don't believe? You have no concept of disbelief. You did seem to be completely sincere. An ex-atheist would be able to provide the points he disbelieved and then make a good point on the other side.
Well my first instinct is to ask why you think Evolutionists don't believe in the god of the Bible. Dr. Ken Miller is a professor of Biology, text book author, courtroom defender of Evolution...and a Christian.
Secondly Evolution is true to start with. If the god of the Bible is shown as true...that still leaves Evolution being true.
Its not a win win situation, it will end up with a kill kill if someone does not stop this madness....you say believe in god...which one?. The way things are going we have only one way to go and that's a road to nowhere.
If my beliefs were found to be wrong I would be surprised but I would try to find the most logical answer for the truth. If the Christian God is real and the bible is his word (inspired or otherwise) then he is a horrible writer and a worse creature than even the alleged character of the Devil. Under those circumstances I might believe in him (if given sufficient proof) but I would still not worship him. You asked and that is my honest opinion.
What if some other god were real? Someone from another religion would just as easily claim that no other god (including Yahweh) ever came to them and answered their prayers. So who answered their prayers? Did your god answer their prayers and cause them to worship a false god and thus end up in hell? Or if you think they are just imagining things, why couldn't that be said about your god?
Ask god what number I am thinking of... if you sincerely want to convince me that you have communications with an all-powerful being, then you will ask him and answer me... otherwise, I will know you don't really want to know the truth.
I am not trying to convince you of nothing! I am just sharing the truth, and trying to save your life!
I do have direct communications with my Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, by prayer, thru Christ!
It is NOT RIGHT TO TEMPT or TEST GOD! The ONLY place where God says we can test Him is about the Lord giving back to you, and providing your every need!
God does know the number your thinking, but I will not ask! You should ask who He is and if He is real, with NO deception
Right... so you are saying you personally know someone who can read my mind mind, but you won't ask them what I am thinking because there is some rule against that.
Next you'll be trying to sell me your invisible jet.
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST! A customer of mine (who I didn't know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
So you are using Pascal's Wager? One of the oldest and most refuted arguments ever.
What if you are wrong and the real god is Vishnu, Thor, Allah, Xenu? What then. You would be just as srewed as everyone else on the planet who doesn't follow the right religion. there something like 3000 to 4000 recorded gods. How do you know you're right when all followers believe just as much as you?
What if all religion is wrong think of all the time, energy, and money you've wasted over the years.
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST! A customer of mine (who I did not know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting, and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him!Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms, and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T! Its so simple as to call upon His name!
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart
How then could you tell if it was Satan trying to lead you to a false religion and hell?
A christian friend came to and discussed his religion with you in your time of need? Then you acceped his religion, kinda sounds how cults operate to me.
If you friend had been budhist you might instead be trying to seek Zen instead.
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him! Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms, and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T Its so simple, as to call upon His name
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST A customer of mine (who I did not know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
In other words you made some shit up in your mind and decided that it was right. Fuck me, it's like a five-year-old playing make believe, except in the body of a grown adult who should know better.
Listen friend, I was a Xian for over 50 yrs before I became an atheist. What caused my conversion was my choice to actually study the OT, NT, the early church, and many of the ancient manuscripts. Finally, and most importantly, I studied the Ugaritic Texts. This not only showed me errors and contradictions in scripture, but it explained the roots of Judaism. It explained that Judaism was polytheistic, then changed to mono. It is a confabulation of the Canaanite Pantheon.
How do I know God/Jesus would REALLY be real? Maybe its a space alien with technology indistinguishable from magic with hidden motives? I would probably try to get the alien killed if he came down on our planet posing as Jesus christ or the Santa Claus.
@juggep80 why would you try to get them killed? Unless of course you knew that it was an alien posing as Jesus. How would you know that it was REALLY an alien?
So, I hope you answer my question as honestly as I answered yours. What if there exist a creator of this universe who did not give any Jesus to this world and the greatest crime according to him is to proclaim that he has done things he has not done, and judge accordingly? What would happen to you on judgement day if this was true Choice4Christ?
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST! A customer of mine (who I did not know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting, and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him! Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms, and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T! Its so simple, as to call upon His name!
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart!
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him! Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T! Its so simple, as to call upon His name
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart
You said "If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!"
Look, I don't know exactly what kind of personal experience you've had. The thing is though, I'm pretty sure you had Christian parents and when you prayed to know "God" your psychology is automatically inclined to interpret it to the doctrine you were brought up with and so you would think any spiritual epiphany is related to the religious doctrine your parents and/or community raised you into.
btw. Buddha never said he was a god, nor did he proclaim he got his enlightenment from any gods. He didn't even proclaim he believed in any gods. This is why buddhism and atheism is not an oxymoron.
This is nothing more than Pascal's wager. It has been debunked over and over again. It is based upon two logical fallacies: false dichotomy and an appeal to fear.
What if it's true? Then you WILL be able to present solid evidence to demonstrate it is. If you can't, then how can you claim it's true? Disproving evolution wouldn't make your god real. It's simply discarding one of the options.
Btw, atheism and evolution aren't mutually inclusive, and there are plenty of believers that accept evolution.
If evolution turns out to be false, then we will keep looking for answers. Your god remains out of the picture, since there's no evidence for his existence.
hellhammerz666 1 month ago
I was gonna watch this vid knowing it criticized my views on the god problem since I like a challenge, but then I saw a few things. 1st, caps lock for most of the title. Never a good sign. 2nd, erroneous yet classical association of evolution with atheism. The Vatican admits evolution is a fact. 3rd, the description is a madhouse. Caps lock too of course, but the text in and of itself is pure madness, and makes the writer a nutbag. That's when I knew this wouldn't challenge me but make me vomit.
gilless429 1 month ago
IF there were some alternate reality where evolution, y'know the thing with PROOF of it's existence, wasn't real and the words of a primitive 2000 year old civilization turned out to be fact, I'd accept it. It would mean that there is PROOF, hard evidence of your version of God.
dustingdustin 3 months ago
Even IF the Bible were true, I would still not believe and/or be happy that I didn't becuz ur god is an evil, demiurge...an immoral tyrant. Our morals have far surpassed that of ur god!
julzabro 3 months ago
You said "What stops you from wanting to really see if there is a creator or not?".
Let me answer by describing a God who's existence I would have problem doubting. First, he would be visible and audible to all beings in the whole universe, if he is omnipresent and wants to guide us, then praying to him would yield a response as concrete as seeing+hearing a lion.
If he is all loving, he would not punish us for not knowing if he exists if his existence isn't apparent for some of us.
FatLingon 4 months ago
What if? I'll tell you.
If the Bible is correct, then I would believe, but probably not "follow" or worship this God.
If there is a God, I would sincerely hope it wasn't the God of the Bible. Jesus said some nice things, but he also supported the God of the old testament. The OT God advocated kidnapping, rape, slavery and genocide. That's why I would not worship him, even if it ment an eternity in hell.
Have a nice day sir. :)
FatLingon 4 months ago
All religion is a waste of time.
torrid426 4 months ago
"What ifs" are useless if there's no evidence to back them up. If you make a claim, in this case, that an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good being, aka "God" exists, then you have the burden of proof to back up this claim. In fact, I would argue that the God claim is the most extraordinary claim ever made, but not only is extraordinary evidence lacking, but even ordinary evidence. Therefore I refuse to believe in superstitious nonsense and live as a slave in terror of Hell.
DandAinTac 5 months ago
Heard it all before .. What if the Buddhists are the real "god-inspired " ones ? .. What if the Hindus are the real ones ? ... What if the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the real one ? What if YOU are wrong ? Why can't you accept the reality of our life on this Earth ?
curiousgeorge1940 6 months ago
What if when your time for judgment comes, and God is actually Allah, and he asks why you chose to be an infidel? What would your answer be?
If your god does exist, your answer to Allah (or any other god that probably doesn't exist for that matter), would probably resemble an atheists response to your god, should your choice be right.
adamflee 6 months ago
Pascal's wager. Yay.
mrfrenik 6 months ago
The info on this video says "This video is NOT "PASCALS WAGER"" but it is exactly Pascal's wager. (as seen at 1:58 - 2:18 and most obviously at 5:15). These are old tired arguments that do nothing to support the existence of any god, let alone yours. Still waiting on the tiniest shred of evidence of a god, not evidence that supports the age of religion. We know religion is old. Old and just as bogus now as it was then.
mercury1321 6 months ago
If there truly was a god, he should let his presence be known rather than expect people to put all their trust in the word of OTHER HUMAN BEINGS and believe in him. That's what most religious people don't seem to realize. You're not following the word of god. You're following the word of god as people wrote it.
EPICsliceOFcake 7 months ago
In the far future, when science rules the world and religion is dead, time travelers will come back to scan the brains of the atheists of the past at their moments of death and recreate them in new bodies in the future. Those annoying religious folks will be left behind and stay dead. Stop believing now if you want to live forever.
Will this really happen? Probably not, but why take a chance? What if you're wrong? Renounce your faith now, just in case.
PunkymickBlah 8 months ago 4
Let me answer:
"What if there is a God? What if there is judgement to face? How are you gonna stand before God?"
I would say to God: Why have you created a universe where science is so easy and sensible to believe and religion is no obvious to think of as mythology -
And then judge us for believing in science???
Judging us for using our logical thinking, judging us, for doing nothing wrong, from the human perspective.
aboyborninjune 8 months ago
// Homo Sapiens came to the Earth and said: "Let there be superstition". And there was superstition. And Homo Sapiens saw the superstition - that it was comforting. //
aboyborninjune 8 months ago 6
He is saying- What is the point of not believing in life after death? When you have the opportunity to have at least a chance of living eternally, versus living eternally, but in suffering, because there will be no death to heal you of the torment in Hell. Also, Christians try to spread the message becuase we do not want you to have to suffer in Hell :] Lastly, trust me with this, its hard to believe, but the Devil and his demons really do close our minds to the truth, and"plants"seedsofdoubt
Altonzo1 9 months ago
The Apostle Paul wrote if Christ didn't rise then they are to be pitied above all men. So he disagrees with you.
A crazy person who believes in things that are not true is sad.
Yeah this is totally pascal wager with shame and guilt thrown on top.
There are 100s of gods. You need to accept them all to be safe. Why would you want to let another minute pass without accepting Vishnu?
Dude this video could be a minute. You are being repetitive.
fisherguzzi 9 months ago
What if there's final judjment? By whom? By the bible gelous and vengfull god? Fuck you it's what i woud say to my defence. I evolved beyound your primitive way of thinking and your trial is making me sick.
doro69 10 months ago
I forgot to mention..."as God if he's real" assumes that God is real. It's called "begging the question"
SiriusMined 11 months ago
Pascal's Wager. Really? People are still making this tired argument?
NGOrchestra 11 months ago
Ow.
AntiHateAllianceAHA 11 months ago
Pascal's Wager, really? u_u What if you're wrong about your god..
idreamtofflight 11 months ago
I have WANTED to know if god was really real or not. You said that if you really wanted to know you would, but that's not the case. And if one more person accuses me of not being sincere, or a TRUE Christian for the 18 years that I was, I am going to FLIP! What are you going to do when you find out that someone else's supposed god is real? I know many many people that have had the same experience as you, only with a different god. How do you explain that? Oh yea.. they're 'crazy', you're not.
melonade1972 11 months ago
Then I would expect evidence of such and in sufficent amounts with peer-reviewed papers that explain the miracles of the bible.
Fuzzy feelings don't cut the mustard for me.
CalicoVall 11 months ago
The other problem with your premise is that you equate "finding out if god is real" with your preconceived notion that he is, or that those of us that don't believe haven't or don't try to ascertain exactly that.
SiriusMined 11 months ago
I find one serious problem with your premise.....it makes the incorrect assumption that if there was a god, that evolution would be false. They aren't mutually exclusive.
That said, there is a lot of evidence for one, and none for the other, so I find it unlikely.
If there is a god, then he "created" us using evolution, and evolution is a tool of god's.
And sorry, but the whole "how are you going ot stand before god" riff IS Pascal's wager, whether or not you want to acknowledge that
SiriusMined 11 months ago
If it turns out we're wrong then we're screwed the all loving God will send us to hell forever ... that's quite a punishment.
good job we're not wrong.
NefariousVirtuoso88 1 year ago
#3 (last post)
Sorry 4 so many posts but I see what you're doing as damaging & I wanted to tell you why.
I know people who have been adversely affected by Xian belief. They live in constant fear. They try to be perfect bcuz they think they can't enter heaven unless they are. They're afraid to "think" bcuz of "thought crimes" the bible teaches. (thinking a sin, makes one guilty of sin). And what's the payoff? Eternal torment! What crime would ever deem such a sadistically evil act of vengeance?
Cootabux 1 year ago
#2
Tell us C4C, have u ever wondered why jesus hasn't said a word, hasn't shown his face, hasn't given us 1 miracle, not answered 1 prayer, never healed 1 amputee, has been totally silent 4 the past 2K years??? U ever wonder why? I mean, since our salvation is the most important message in the bible, why wouldn't he simply show he's real? Why play hide 'n seek? Why not simply show us, who really want to know, that he's real? I know, do u?
I'm content knowing there's no ghost floating overhead.
Cootabux 1 year ago
#1
If every word of scripture were true, it would mean that god "was" an evil monster after all. (His words & actions). In fact, a psychological analysis of the Yahweh god character of the OT reveals that he was a psychopath! Btw, I can provide evidence for all my claims...can u?
So, there's no way I'd go back to being a Xian. I can't respect, much less love, a being I have to fear! This god says he gives us free will, yet tells us if we don't do his will, he'll damn us to eternal torment!
Cootabux 1 year ago
Why does your God cares so much about our beliefs? After all, they're just beliefs.
We're going to be JUDGED on BELIEFS, Not on Our ACTIONS.
flightkiller09 1 year ago
If Yahweh is the real and true creator of the universe and us as people, and if the Bible is an accurate description of his character then we are truly in trouble. The god of the bible is a very evil and tyrannical being.
Even if it were real, I wouldn't worship him. I don't think that tyrants are worth following.
And what does evolution have to do with this?
berniebay 1 year ago
aaah, whaT if? well, if in fact the christian god is real, then i would be screwed and would go to hell.
by the same token, what if allah is a true god. what if the queran is the real word of god?
i also find it funny that you lump evolution with atheism. the two concepts have nothing to do with each other. Ken miller is a noted evolutionary biologist that is also a christian. in fact, more than half of evolutionary biologists are christians.
avalsonline2 1 year ago
if god would exist , people would kill him... for all the disaster hes put human civilisation trough.
janar17 1 year ago
... this guy's still talking ...
bregan8813 1 year ago
I refuse to pray for a god to answer me. When people furiously search inside their minds for an answer, they get one. However it is a fairy tale that keeps them satisfied. Doesn't that process make perfect sense if humans are to survive?
You have a point that religion can make you happy. I like being happy too but I would rather have my ability to reason. I would rather have individual minds make the world a better place than a hive mind.
TheBlehBlehBleh 1 year ago
What if christians and muslims learnt how to think for themselves? the world might just become a more tolerant, honest and safer place to live.
SteveMHN 1 year ago
If god appears to me (chances of it being your god is very slim, considering there are thousands) and shows him or herself to me, I will admit that I am wrong.
I see no clear-cut evidence of ANY god existing, including your own.
Besides, if (your) god is real, I wouldn't want to worship such a misogynistic, genocidal, megalomaniacal jerk. You may yell "But the New Testament!", I don't care. Your god was an ass in the old test. It's like Hitler changing his tune and running for office.
bailesie 1 year ago
WHAT IF WHAT IF WHAT IF. There is no evidence of God, and the side effects of religion are too negative to justify the selfish decision to believe in faulty morals, anti-scientific beliefs, and dangerous absolutes.
If there is a God, I am a good enough person to get into heaven as long as God isn't childish enough to reject people for not believing in something for which there is no evidence. In that case I don't care what he thinks. I don't want to live forever, and God doesn't give purpose.
IanEColeman 1 year ago
Let me turn the question back on you.
If Man created God and your belief in him was merely a delusion - wouldn't you want to know that?
Food for thought.
steveb0503 1 year ago
what if its true? theres around 0% chance its true. if their is a supreme creator why would he give a shit that i didnt believe in him? answer that one
teedonster 1 year ago
God does exist.
SummerSunshine1988 1 year ago
@SummerSunshine1988 . thumbs up! that is so smart!
bregan8813 1 year ago
If it turns out that the christian god exists it I would still think that god is a malevolent force although instead of being a fictional character god would be real. I would ignore any "judgment" from a being whose main solution to problems is killing and suffering i.e the flood, jesus, job etc. Of course I would love to find out the truth but believing in god and worshiping are two different things.
Nihilist127 1 year ago
and what if there is a god
ZEUS
how are you going to stand before ZEUS and face judgment why would you want to risk eternal damnation turn to ZEUS deep down everybody wants to know
ZEUS
this IS PASCALS WAGER
IT ISSSSSS!!!!!
living for ever is the last thing i want to do
i can SAY i believe in god but that wont mean i ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN GOD
i was raised EPISCOPALIAN AND I NEVER BELIEVED
thanks for wasting my time
Leadman1989 1 year ago
Evolution is not 'wrong', we have empirical proof that it occurs. We can even observe it in real time. (research: Italian Wall Lizard or Microbial Evolution). Since we atheists are scientific and skeptical in nature, I'll tell you EXACTLY how long we will resist believing in God: Disprove evolution and provide strong evidence of the existence of god. I guarantee you that 100% of all true atheists will become theists overnight. However, no theist has EVER provided convincing evidence.
BlueSpirals 1 year ago
Why is religion is commercialized?? Why does it seem like religions are after your money??
djsdojo 1 year ago
In what way is this not a baroque, rococo embellishment of Pascal's wager? This video doesn't even have any entertainment value! There's 10 minutes I'll never get back.
ursuspacificus 1 year ago
So wha if you right and I'm wrong? Being religious just to SAVE YOU ASS is wrong and you all know it. "Faith" should come from the internal soul and used a guide for everyday life, not as a safety net. Idiots.
glitterfuck572 1 year ago
This is a false dichotomy, you assume that there is only two choices. Belief in Christianity and atheism. There are many more choices.
A Muslim could ask you this same question.
HighCardWins 1 year ago
06:45 "If you ask god, and he doesn't come to be.. okay, you can say there's no god"
For many non believers, this is exactly the case... They have given god every chance to answer and heard nothing but silence. So by your own test... Okay, there's no god.
TheGundeck 1 year ago
How are you going to say this isn't "Pascal's Wager"? This is EXACTLY Pascal's Wager... you just softened it up a bit and dragged it out for 10 minutes...
TheGundeck 1 year ago
What if you're wrong though? What if it's not the Christian God? What if it's Zeus? Jupiter? The Muslim God? What if it's not your particular Christian sect and you go to hell on a technicality? There is nothing but a book and unquestioning faith--the lack of thought, the LACK of discovery, and the acceptance of hypocrisy and blindness--to support your argument.
Besides, if God condemns people to hell because they simply didn't believe, then YOU'RE the demon-worshipper.
Hohnoroa 1 year ago
Yea, and what if Krishna and Shiva are having sex in the back of my car. Anyone else want to try worthlessly speculating?
kyledavidbyron 1 year ago
what if you're wrong? If you're wrong you will have wasted your entire life being scared of your delusion.
You probably are, because if you yourself were born into a hindu household you would be a hindu, if your were born in Japan, you'd be a shintoist etc.
Fact is, if you were completely ignorant of Christianity, you could never come up with it for yourself isolated from the scriptures. This is proof that there is no doubt that religion is made up by people. We created god not vice versa.
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
So, if I do end up in front of god when I die, I'll say:
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"Sorry god, but you didn't reveal yourself to me. You didn't give me my 'Road to Damascus' moment.
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You parted the Red sea for the Israelites! You spoke to Moses through the burning bush! You walked on water for your disciples! You revealed your wounds to Thomas! Why should these people be shown proof, but not me?
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You knew when you created me that I would need to see to believe. Yet you showed me NOTHING!"
NeroJoe83 1 year ago
Continued...
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And I know you guys are going to say that I need "faith"... Well, I wont take things on faith alone, sorry. And why should I?
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After all, god proved his existence (so they say) to the Israelites and early Christians with great miracles. He knocked Paul of Tarsus off his horse!
NeroJoe83 1 year ago
Answer to the title question:
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If there indeed is a god, and he really did create me, then he gave me the skeptic mind that I possess.
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Like the "hairs on my head," I was born with this brain... a brain that analyzes evidence to make it's decisions. A just god would not punished me for only believing in things that can be proven?
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And if he would, I want nothing to do with him anyways.
NeroJoe83 1 year ago
What if the Quran is right? You guys are all screwed...
MastermindX 1 year ago
What choice are you talking about ? If i give you a gun and tell you, you have the choice to shoot yourself or to leave, is that really a choice or is that black mailing ? A choice made under pressure is NOT a choice...
Acrimonator 1 year ago
To paraphrase yourself : "There is no what if or who's right or wrong etc..." You just can't make sense as you contradict yourself form one video to another...
BTW, Pascal's wager is the most hypocrit stance one can have...
Acrimonator 1 year ago
Personally i believe IF god exists then he is sadistic, and cruel and i would not want to be near him in any way, nor a part of what he has to offer for someone he deems "perfect". The reasoning being is that i think if he is, all mighty, and gave us free will then he would know that people would doubt his existence and for that to be punishable seems self defeating to me. It means that life is a social experiment with torture or sorrow for failing the game... Exist or not i will have no part
Apex678 1 year ago
God or the idea of one, really can't be "disproven". The christian god, and the bible itself, can and has been thoroughly debunked. Its that simple.
PhilosophicalTwerks 1 year ago 15
@PhilosophicalTwerks (1) First of all faith in Jesus Christ nor the bible has "been debunked" The bible has manuscripts dating 1,000's of years back. The factual findings of the "Dead Sea Scrolls" of Isaiah, plus The Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, is the only remanent left standing from a temple King Solomon built, who was the son of King David, So that takes us back 700BC
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ "Ask god if he's real" you said. Asking god if he's real presupposes ones belief in the god. People don't talk to people they don't believe exist in the first place. I'm not writhing this comment to you without the innitial assumption that you exist to read it. Asking god to show his existence to you and then feeling that he's done so and claiming your belief is based on that revelation is fallacious. You already believed in the first place and merely reinforced your priar belief.
scruethedemiurge 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ
None of those things prove the supernatural claims of the bible.
SiriusMined 11 months ago
@PhilosophicalTwerks (2) If you can't accept scientific carbon proof data for the papaya scrolls that make up the bible, then you can not use that data to proof in Rome, Ceaser, Augustus, Nero, Domotion now can you? Even just 2,000 years ago, history, science, archeology (not only does circles around) Darwin's "evolution theory" just 200 years ago,
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ
I not completely sure, but I think it's a safe bet that scrolls were never written on papayas. And who in the blue hell is Domotion?
jerico641 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ The scrolls that make up the Bible have been dated to roughly 100 years after the death of Christ. So how is the age of the Bible proof of anything?
atheistram 1 year ago
Choice4Christ
Darwin's discovery may only be 200 years old, but it is a fact today, thanks to our scientific knowledge and technology. We have a number of ways of determining Evolution is true. I'll be happy to give you that info right here, if you like
You speak of Carbon Dating, yet most Xians deny that any form of dating is accurate when they claim the Earth is only 6K yrs old. Of course, we have more methods of dating now. We have tree ring data going back 10K 500 yrs. Cosmology is another.
Cootabux 1 year ago
@PhilosophicalTwerks (3) but actual facts proof the bible, and the cruxification of Jesus Christ and the disciples, up to 381AD when Constantine mandated church & state together, then Catholism took a turn for the worse, right thru the Dark Ages. Please tell me what evidence do you have your claim?
Choice4Christ 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ (philosophicaltwerks is my second channel btw) blah blah blah...I mean just to be perfectly honest, I don't really like pwning christians. Its first of all either too easy or their points have been debunked or discredited too many times. In your case, its both of those. However, I showed your channel to mobby32, a 15 year old atheist. He's gonna take you to the pawn shop, and get ready for others to follow. You're welcome.
HowDaWorldTwerks 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ Generally there has to be some reason in the first place to suspect that a given set of propositions might have some truth to it BEFORE one feels any need to start asking "what if (insert random unsupported notion) is really true?". Propositions such as a very specific god with very specific expectations of us, virgin birth, resurrection, immortal souls, judgement, - you need to provide some reason in the first place to suspect this to be the case or it's just random speculation.
scruethedemiurge 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ Even if Christianity were proved true... I still would not worship the God of the Bible. He is a megalomaniacal, genocidal, baby-killing, freak
atheistram 1 year ago
@atheistram Nice point. I just believe in Santa. Because if he ends up being real, at least I get some free presents.
Viktir666 1 year ago
@Choice4Christ The question isn't "what if there is a god?" but rather "how do I distinguish between the thousands of religions, even the manufactured ones like Scientology, or do I just believe what my parents taught me because I was born in a society that worshiped that invisible friend?" If Christian God was true then he created an immoral system with massive violence (hell). Even if true I don't choose to worship a violent tribe leader who established a system of eternal torture.
yuishy2003 1 year ago
Choice4Christ
Please provide any evidence you have for the resurrection, for the zombies crawling out of their graves, etc.
The fact is, there is no evidence for the historicity of jesus. Not Suetonius, Josephus, Pliny, they've all been debunked. The most important factors relating to scripture is that there are no originals! It makes no difference how many copies you have, nor how far u think they go back, they mean nothing if u don't have the originals! None exist of any!
Cootabux 1 year ago
@PhilosophicalTwerks THIS IS THE EASIEST QUESTION EVER.... However your directly saying your views are "Right" so instead ill imagine another god... Thor.
If i am wrong. There has to be evidence that shows that im wrong. Eyewitnesses or personal feelings does not qualify as "Evidence". So someone saying they saw Thor in a chariot above does not count.
I most then be able to test this new facts myself. Even if i wont i most still have the option.
In other words its just what science does now..
Dasmaster1 1 year ago
Then we will shift beliefs to be more accurate, I dont even have to watch this vid to answer the Title... dum theists.... what the hell do you expect anyway?
AnimusRat 1 year ago
You stated in your video that if you were wrong and no god existed that it would be fine with you because that would be the end. But what if God does exist, only it's not the god you believe in , and now your in the same boat you think atheists are in. There are hundreds of religons and all say drastically differant things about death and what happens after. Why is your version so much better then all the rest? Where's the evidence?
O567000 1 year ago
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Creation is right: God blew his bad breath( no toothpaste yet) over a clump of mud and voila, it became alive and upright, and all was well. Question, did Adan have a penis ? Because Eve was only created when Adam complained about loneliness. What if god had given Adam a motorbike or a computer and he felt satisfied, no longer lonely, we would still be living in the garden of eden
lizazoon 1 year ago
If your position turned out to be true, I would ask god why he left evidence to "imply" that we evolved. DNA, Endogenous Retro Viruses, Chromosome 2. I would ask why he never healed amputees. I would ask why he allowed 5 year old children to be RAPED, TORTURED and MURDERED, while they screamed in agony, only to complete his "plan". Then I'd ask him why he was a fucking asshole.
evolutionist101 1 year ago
For evolution to be wrong, we would need to find a fossilised rabbit, dog or human in the same period as as a fossilised dinosaur. There are literally millions of fossils around the world. More discovered daily. But not one fossil of a dog, rabbit or modern man dating older than 200,000 years exists. That would blow evolution out of the water and give credibilty to a God. Not sure which one though. And dinosaur fossils? How old? From 65 MILLION years plus some!!!!!!!!
stevjen1 1 year ago
I'd love to help you and appeal to your logical side, but am afraid it would me trying to convince you the earth is not flat. The earth is more than 4,000 years old etc... Not enough space here to give you an answer.
stevjen1 1 year ago
You were never an atheist.
Do you really, completely not know why we don't believe? You have no concept of disbelief. You did seem to be completely sincere. An ex-atheist would be able to provide the points he disbelieved and then make a good point on the other side.
:)
matthewtaylorbrown 1 year ago
Well my first instinct is to ask why you think Evolutionists don't believe in the god of the Bible. Dr. Ken Miller is a professor of Biology, text book author, courtroom defender of Evolution...and a Christian.
Secondly Evolution is true to start with. If the god of the Bible is shown as true...that still leaves Evolution being true.
VeritasLiber 1 year ago
Its not a win win situation, it will end up with a kill kill if someone does not stop this madness....you say believe in god...which one?. The way things are going we have only one way to go and that's a road to nowhere.
Redpilldown 1 year ago
If my beliefs were found to be wrong I would be surprised but I would try to find the most logical answer for the truth. If the Christian God is real and the bible is his word (inspired or otherwise) then he is a horrible writer and a worse creature than even the alleged character of the Devil. Under those circumstances I might believe in him (if given sufficient proof) but I would still not worship him. You asked and that is my honest opinion.
Azurerosa 1 year ago
Science is not a religion its a label for collected factual information, that are proven and demonstrational.
9numbers 2 years ago 13
Science is a man-made religion of faith in today's knowledge.
WILLTHEWGMAN 2 years ago
Religion is a virus the mind
aLOVINGinfidel 2 years ago
Evolution is a fact
aLOVINGinfidel 2 years ago
If your God exists then good for you. He wont send me to 'hell' while everyone else enjoys 'heaven'. Is your god really that fucked up?
Just saying.
KnivesMonroe 2 years ago
You claim to have been an Atheist?
If you were ever an atheist you would understand Why atheist dont believe in your brand of faith any more than you believe, in others
now if I may ask you a personal question.
to what brand of the christian faith do you subscribe to?
TheEnglishAthiest 2 years ago
What if? A longer sentance has never been typed,
But there is no proof of any god\gods\godess'. and no scientific evidence to support the Hypothosis that any of the said beings exist
let alone the brand of faith you have chosen to subscribe to
Your trying to use Pascals wager here,
to turn it around you have nothing to lose by worshiping every god\gods\godess'. Given that why dont you go to a Mosk??
TheEnglishAthiest 2 years ago
What if some other god were real? Someone from another religion would just as easily claim that no other god (including Yahweh) ever came to them and answered their prayers. So who answered their prayers? Did your god answer their prayers and cause them to worship a false god and thus end up in hell? Or if you think they are just imagining things, why couldn't that be said about your god?
teaboyaudio 2 years ago
What has evolution got to do with believing in god, any god not just your god?
Boldhome 2 years ago
Ask god what number I am thinking of... if you sincerely want to convince me that you have communications with an all-powerful being, then you will ask him and answer me... otherwise, I will know you don't really want to know the truth.
funningincircles 2 years ago
I am not trying to convince you of nothing! I am just sharing the truth, and trying to save your life!
I do have direct communications with my Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, by prayer, thru Christ!
It is NOT RIGHT TO TEMPT or TEST GOD! The ONLY place where God says we can test Him is about the Lord giving back to you, and providing your every need!
God does know the number your thinking, but I will not ask! You should ask who He is and if He is real, with NO deception
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
Right... so you are saying you personally know someone who can read my mind mind, but you won't ask them what I am thinking because there is some rule against that.
Next you'll be trying to sell me your invisible jet.
funningincircles 2 years ago
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST! A customer of mine (who I didn't know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
There is no god and the god you speak if exstited is something I wouldn't want to be around if he exitsted.
allreligionskill 2 years ago
So you are using Pascal's Wager? One of the oldest and most refuted arguments ever.
What if you are wrong and the real god is Vishnu, Thor, Allah, Xenu? What then. You would be just as srewed as everyone else on the planet who doesn't follow the right religion. there something like 3000 to 4000 recorded gods. How do you know you're right when all followers believe just as much as you?
What if all religion is wrong think of all the time, energy, and money you've wasted over the years.
TANKgodsAREangry 2 years ago 2
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST! A customer of mine (who I did not know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting, and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
How is that impossible"?
How can you tell it's not the devil trying to lead you to the wrong religion and therfor hell?
TANKgodsAREangry 2 years ago
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him!Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms, and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T! Its so simple as to call upon His name!
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
How then could you tell if it was Satan trying to lead you to a false religion and hell?
A christian friend came to and discussed his religion with you in your time of need? Then you acceped his religion, kinda sounds how cults operate to me.
If you friend had been budhist you might instead be trying to seek Zen instead.
TANKgodsAREangry 2 years ago
I can't believe, way to improbable.
PotSmokingAtheist 2 years ago
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him! Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms, and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T Its so simple, as to call upon His name
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST A customer of mine (who I did not know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
In other words you made some shit up in your mind and decided that it was right. Fuck me, it's like a five-year-old playing make believe, except in the body of a grown adult who should know better.
MaxxPower101 2 years ago
@Choice4Christ Any religion could say the same. Any religion has old books that conflict with yours.
yuishy2003 1 year ago
Choice4Christ
Listen friend, I was a Xian for over 50 yrs before I became an atheist. What caused my conversion was my choice to actually study the OT, NT, the early church, and many of the ancient manuscripts. Finally, and most importantly, I studied the Ugaritic Texts. This not only showed me errors and contradictions in scripture, but it explained the roots of Judaism. It explained that Judaism was polytheistic, then changed to mono. It is a confabulation of the Canaanite Pantheon.
Facts!
Cootabux 1 year ago
How do I know God/Jesus would REALLY be real? Maybe its a space alien with technology indistinguishable from magic with hidden motives? I would probably try to get the alien killed if he came down on our planet posing as Jesus christ or the Santa Claus.
juggep80 2 years ago
@juggep80 why would you try to get them killed? Unless of course you knew that it was an alien posing as Jesus. How would you know that it was REALLY an alien?
Censeo 2 years ago
Because Santa Claus is impossible? Alien would be the best possible factor because they probably exist in the cosmos.
juggep80 2 years ago
Well, if your God and Jesus was real, then that which you believe happens to me would happen.
Censeo 2 years ago
So, I hope you answer my question as honestly as I answered yours. What if there exist a creator of this universe who did not give any Jesus to this world and the greatest crime according to him is to proclaim that he has done things he has not done, and judge accordingly? What would happen to you on judgement day if this was true Choice4Christ?
Censeo 2 years ago
If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!
When I sincerely asked God outloud if He was real and WHO He was, would He please reavel Himself with NO deception because I wanted to know Him
NO OTHER GOD CAME TO ME OR ANSWERED MY PRAYER EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST! A customer of mine (who I did not know was a Christian) called me one morning, some how he knew I was hurting, and that day I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord & Savior and my eyes were opened by the Holy Spirit
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him! Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms, and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T! Its so simple, as to call upon His name!
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart!
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
That is my whole point. If you truly want to know if God is real (sincerely) ask Him! Ask that He reveals Himself to you with NO deception.. and He will come running to you with open arms and when it happens, you will know it is God answering your prayer
If God gave us His very best His only Son Jesus Christ WHY WOULD HE MAKE IT HARD TO FIND HIM? HE DOESN'T! Its so simple, as to call upon His name
Alah, Buddah, Zeus or no other God came to me, or will come to you if you ask from your heart
Choice4Christ 2 years ago
You said "If Jesus Christ is NOT real and I had to face judgement, that's impossible!"
Look, I don't know exactly what kind of personal experience you've had. The thing is though, I'm pretty sure you had Christian parents and when you prayed to know "God" your psychology is automatically inclined to interpret it to the doctrine you were brought up with and so you would think any spiritual epiphany is related to the religious doctrine your parents and/or community raised you into.
Censeo 2 years ago
btw. Buddha never said he was a god, nor did he proclaim he got his enlightenment from any gods. He didn't even proclaim he believed in any gods. This is why buddhism and atheism is not an oxymoron.
Censeo 2 years ago
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GOD YOU MAKE GREAT VIDEOS! HOW CAN ANYONE WHO WATCHES THIS, EVEN MAKE STUPID RUDE COMMMENTS?
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS FOR THEIR BENIFIT!!!!
Keep fighting the good fight, and doing so with love!
God Bless you bro!
thx for video!
DontHaveToWorry 2 years ago
Which comment here, prior to yours, has been stupid or rude?
Censeo 2 years ago
This is nothing more than Pascal's wager. It has been debunked over and over again. It is based upon two logical fallacies: false dichotomy and an appeal to fear.
naejimba 2 years ago 4
Pascal's Wager
Cottonballs0000 2 years ago
Look-up "Pascal's Wager"
LittleTruckingBozo 2 years ago