Why cant there be more people like him rather than some 5 year children mechanically playing because there parents forced them to...He was a true genius and played with such accuracy and all of his songs were so cleanly done! Glen Gould is my role model
This comparison is very interesting, thanks for uploading!
The tempo is more or less the same across the decades, which is a stunning feat by Gould (but it could be argued that he does not try to reinterpret the piece much).
But the attack is much more full and softer in 80s while not losing any brilliancy and I think, this cannot attributed alone to the improved recording technique. Even a genius like Gould still matured during the years.
@flippert0 gosh, i have to say that he didn't change. i am going to stick with my theory that he stored this perfomance in his brain in a way we dont understand yet. the difference i hear is recording quality. the 'personality' of the performance does not change. what is amazing is that he does this live with no splicing, no mistakes. can you even imagine the brain it takes to do this? in addition to the physical requirements. i have played this fugue, the separation of voices required is beyond
What a wonderful experiment. I don't think he changed at all over that period, although he was known for actually fiddling with the mechanism of his Steinway and that might actually be audible, although obviously the recording technology likely changed much more over the same period.
i have a theory, having been Gould fan for over 35 years, each Bach piece has a personality. That 'person' does not change over time, so in addition to the notes being in his memory, every detail such as tempo is also stored in memory. This is different from his 2 recordings of the Goldbergs where he said he 'rethought' the piece for the 2nd recording. I love this fugue, the inversions and the end with the theme in 2 hands just a few beats apart, genius by Bach! genius by Gould!! FANTASTIC!
Dear InterwaevingVoices. Not assuming anything at all, may I kindly ask you to share with the lot of us the amount of tempo editing and pitch editing you actually practiced in producing this amazingly interesting 22th fugue? Thanks a lot.
@amswesp No pitch or tempo corrections were made -- the videos are all straight from the source material. As you can hear in places, the 1980 performance is at a slightly quicker tempo, but only slightly. The main problem had to do with the 1969 version, where at some structural points (e.g. cadences and/or the ends of formal sections) he sometimes introduced a slight decelerando—something atypical of his Bach performances in general. This made some transitions more challenging.
I dont if any of you are feeling the same way Im feeling but it's rather eerie to imagine that there are NO tempo changes over at least 40 years of performances. That is beyond genius! In terms of interpretation of Bach he was sheer perfection! MY God I would have loved to have been his student when it comes to Bach.
This is AMAZINGLY good InterweavingVoices! Of course, the fact that Gould plays it metronomically unchanged through more than 17 years is scaringly awesome, to say the least. Looking forward to the rest of your videos.
I was replying to someone that said "perfect pitch!" .Now, how the hell pitch is something you would appreciate in a performance of an instrument like a piano where the player doesnt have any control over the "pitch" like a violinist or a singer does Got it now?
This missunderstandings could be avoided if the "replies" where somehow indicated, so you could see who you are repying to.
He referred to absolute or perfect pitch as being Gould's ability to hear a note and identify it flawlessly as a G, A, Eb, etc. Thus, to have seemingly concrete rhythmic and melodic interpretation is more or less miraculous and inspiring.
He took advantage of common Gould insight being specifically, here, the ability to identify various pitches. To do so is agreeable risky considering the variation of insight that all listeners have into Gould's abilities. The video does not alone present such insight into Gould's abilities, but most students of his playing style, eccentric characteristics, and life know this to be undoubtedly true.
It's creativity like this that should be praised in a youtube video. What an interesting way to listen to this piece. The symetry between the years is somewhat scary actually; this man was truly a genius.
GGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUSSS!
iguarni 4 months ago in playlist GLENN GOULD
I'm glad I can play without singing...that seems like it would be a crippling disability.
TCharlieA 7 months ago
god would play it like that !
googlekopfkind 9 months ago
Why cant there be more people like him rather than some 5 year children mechanically playing because there parents forced them to...He was a true genius and played with such accuracy and all of his songs were so cleanly done! Glen Gould is my role model
layfon08 9 months ago
The best Bach performer. No doubt.
legendbach 11 months ago
This comparison is very interesting, thanks for uploading!
The tempo is more or less the same across the decades, which is a stunning feat by Gould (but it could be argued that he does not try to reinterpret the piece much).
But the attack is much more full and softer in 80s while not losing any brilliancy and I think, this cannot attributed alone to the improved recording technique. Even a genius like Gould still matured during the years.
flippert0 1 year ago
@flippert0 gosh, i have to say that he didn't change. i am going to stick with my theory that he stored this perfomance in his brain in a way we dont understand yet. the difference i hear is recording quality. the 'personality' of the performance does not change. what is amazing is that he does this live with no splicing, no mistakes. can you even imagine the brain it takes to do this? in addition to the physical requirements. i have played this fugue, the separation of voices required is beyond
trevjr 11 months ago
What a wonderful experiment. I don't think he changed at all over that period, although he was known for actually fiddling with the mechanism of his Steinway and that might actually be audible, although obviously the recording technology likely changed much more over the same period.
Aargh28 1 year ago
Incredible editing job. Glenn is not the same over time, though. His 1980 playing more considerably more melow.
simcha181818 1 year ago
Awesome
nmeau 1 year ago
Great editing job!
KABRIS1 1 year ago 3
The same tempo maintained in every one. The man has great timing!!!
KABRIS1 1 year ago
Nice editing!
HerrWarja 1 year ago
LOL at the consistency. I can't even understand how he does it. It's so ridiculous. The best performer of Bach ever.
ILikeClassicalGuitar 1 year ago 2
wow. the consistency in the tempo over a span of decades... that's kind of scary...
b0ttomzone 2 years ago 3
i have a theory, having been Gould fan for over 35 years, each Bach piece has a personality. That 'person' does not change over time, so in addition to the notes being in his memory, every detail such as tempo is also stored in memory. This is different from his 2 recordings of the Goldbergs where he said he 'rethought' the piece for the 2nd recording. I love this fugue, the inversions and the end with the theme in 2 hands just a few beats apart, genius by Bach! genius by Gould!! FANTASTIC!
trevjr 2 years ago 13
how could someone possibly have such an incredible sense of tempo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing!
pugay69 2 years ago
wow he was the same throughout his lifetime!
Jtking3000 2 years ago
the same tempo - amazing
izajt 2 years ago 2
Merci beaucoup pour le post, génial !
apuland 2 years ago 2
Dear InterwaevingVoices. Not assuming anything at all, may I kindly ask you to share with the lot of us the amount of tempo editing and pitch editing you actually practiced in producing this amazingly interesting 22th fugue? Thanks a lot.
amswesp 2 years ago 2
@amswesp No pitch or tempo corrections were made -- the videos are all straight from the source material. As you can hear in places, the 1980 performance is at a slightly quicker tempo, but only slightly. The main problem had to do with the 1969 version, where at some structural points (e.g. cadences and/or the ends of formal sections) he sometimes introduced a slight decelerando—something atypical of his Bach performances in general. This made some transitions more challenging.
InterweavingVoices 3 months ago
MARVELOUS, InterweavingVoices.
THANK YOU!
klinsha8 2 years ago
great and interesting documentary
Glenn Gould and the 'Art' of Fugue
guiding3your3abyss 2 years ago
I dont if any of you are feeling the same way Im feeling but it's rather eerie to imagine that there are NO tempo changes over at least 40 years of performances. That is beyond genius! In terms of interpretation of Bach he was sheer perfection! MY God I would have loved to have been his student when it comes to Bach.
Hervinbalfour 2 years ago 3
This is AMAZINGLY good InterweavingVoices! Of course, the fact that Gould plays it metronomically unchanged through more than 17 years is scaringly awesome, to say the least. Looking forward to the rest of your videos.
bontempo01 3 years ago
Brilliant. Gould would've probably enjoyed this very much.
Pogouldiwitz 3 years ago 2
It's pretty well known that Glenn Gould had perfect pitch... but this video is proof that he had perfect rhythm as well.
Holy crap.
nwshane 3 years ago 2
yeah- like a clock. amazing!!
ziziva 3 years ago
what the hell you mean by perfect pitch ? He was a pianist, not a singer or violinist
leandrusi 2 years ago
that doesn't make sense. somone who doesn't play a violin or sing can't have perfect pitch?
munkybrain 2 years ago
Of course he can, but thats not what i meant.
I was replying to someone that said "perfect pitch!" .Now, how the hell pitch is something you would appreciate in a performance of an instrument like a piano where the player doesnt have any control over the "pitch" like a violinist or a singer does Got it now?
This missunderstandings could be avoided if the "replies" where somehow indicated, so you could see who you are repying to.
leandrusi 2 years ago
@munkybrain He sang, or hummed, every piece he played ;) the tempo and pitch where internal to him, it just took the piano to make it external.
gdbalck 2 years ago
He referred to absolute or perfect pitch as being Gould's ability to hear a note and identify it flawlessly as a G, A, Eb, etc. Thus, to have seemingly concrete rhythmic and melodic interpretation is more or less miraculous and inspiring.
sapidpersona 2 years ago
yeah i know what he meant, but how can you tell someone has "perfect pitch" by hearing him play the piano........??
leandrusi 2 years ago
He took advantage of common Gould insight being specifically, here, the ability to identify various pitches. To do so is agreeable risky considering the variation of insight that all listeners have into Gould's abilities. The video does not alone present such insight into Gould's abilities, but most students of his playing style, eccentric characteristics, and life know this to be undoubtedly true.
sapidpersona 2 years ago
@sapidpersona wat?
leandrusi 6 months ago
I prefer the 1980 performance.
ChocloManx 3 years ago
he kept the same tempo .. i would give half my life to get this man back to life
muhammadq1986 3 years ago 3
It's creativity like this that should be praised in a youtube video. What an interesting way to listen to this piece. The symetry between the years is somewhat scary actually; this man was truly a genius.
AsSomedayItMayHappen 3 years ago 2
Very nice, and interesting to listen to!
I think that Gould, with his love of recording technology and his ideal of the listener as a creative agent, would have liked this very much.
p0lyph0ny 3 years ago
InterweavingVoices: Your transitions are incredibly accurate!
No doubt you must be a professional editor.
Consider posting a calling card.
Great job.
Bronzebk 3 years ago
genius
christian6657 3 years ago
he didn't change any detail of his interpretation. Each performance is exactly the same... what a musician! Just great!
Chopin1986 3 years ago
Very creative & a blast to watch.
ifitaintbaroque 3 years ago
What a great video! Thanks very much for spending the time editing it :)
Norbeone 3 years ago
does anyone notice that all 3 recordings, though different in articulation, virtually have the same tempo - despite the years in between them.
That's amazing spontaneity in interpretation..
jeffouNSHS 3 years ago 7
Excellent and interesting!
A pleasure to watch and hear.
Thanks for posting.
ragssimon 3 years ago
Absolutely wonderful!
faraz1729 3 years ago
Very well done.
JosephJacks 3 years ago 3