@BurnDadah i didn't mean that they are all pro. sorry for the misleading. :(. I just meant that if a player is good enough to be in the pro games, even if he/she ain't pro, that person is still good enough to be a good player. Purp prolly just didnt notice since the enemy was already attacking him.
Is hold Lurkers still an allowed strategy in official competition? I assume it is, but I just rarely see it being used even though it seems like a good strategy.
@Glioburd No one does "Spam stop buttons". What's being done is the lurkers are being told to attack a building that is not in sight. For example, if you make your lurkers attack an enemy building that's not in sight (meaning, that you know the building is there, but it's in fog), that makes the lurkers attempt to attack the building, but because they can't move, they can't attack, and they can't being an attack animation towards something they can't reach, so they just stop.
haha i was thinking the same thing! you can see when cholera is excited, the mouse is all over the screen trying to mark units :D. but nontheless thanks for uploading and good commentary :)
i dont think hes very good, and best and most entertaining starcraft commentator? what about tasteless or superdanielman? or artosis? they are alot better... maybe this guy has given alot to the starcraft community but i really dont like him as a commentator.
lol im sorry i just like klazart more.. this guy is too.... into it but not really.. he acts like hes excited.. and hes really not at all. if you're not excited man, just dont act like it, it kinda of annoying lol
I can't believe that a zerg using such a large, non-standard force (with masses of hydra & devourer defence against air) wouldn't bring a single overlord. That's just far too much of a risk.
If a ZvZ match somehow goes on for so long, of course there's a chance the opponent would invest in lurkers.
allied mines are illegal because of the fact that ur simply ALLYING urself to the opponent, which is illegal in pro tournaments. At least thats what i heard.
yeah, that's what i was thinking. Pretty much every tutorial that I've seen on zvz said that it should end in mutaling, and every single zvz game I've played has ended with mutaling.
or just 4 pool T_T
they must have both done something ridiculous like 3 hatch or something.
stop lurkers are deadly as hell, but aren't quite as cool as allied mines.... but its really the same concept... its just mines are quicker to tech too, thats why its illegal =\
Stop Luckers means you take Luckers with another units, let's said Overload, then you make them Hold position, the Luckers wont attack utils you order, it's a very nice trap, 2 hold Luckers can eat a squad of marines..
Actually no that's not how you do stop lurkers. Technically pressing S is one way to do it, but it's not practical in a game where you have to multi task.
There are tricks to doing it. One way is to have the lurker attack a building in the fog of war and out of range like a scouted enemy Hatchery really far away.
I think it also works by grouping it with an overlord and pressing hold position.
Doing one of these tricks stops the lurker from attacking. Then all you have to do is press S so they'll cancel the previous command that they were unable to do like hold position or attacking something in the fog.
Sometimes I wish korean pros weren´t quite as perfect at their game, so we could se some longer, sloppier games like this one. It was definitely awesome to behold. I didn´t think I could watch a 50 min. game in its entirety, but I was glued to the screen. ZvZ rules, and Cholera rules.
the plagues was wonderful, but I think the difference between "foreign player" and Korean players is: In the stopped lurker case and guardian case, they will retreat, because they know that even they stick to it, the damage they can do is still very small, especially the stopped lurker case, hydralisks can definitely get back because they have much more hp than M&M.
That is why he is saying that if they were koreans they would have the reaction time to pull the hydralisks away once they noticed the stop lurkers. Like how people dance away from psionic storm with hydras.
Title's a reference to Romeo and Juliet lol
Rambuzzle 4 months ago
Romeo and Juliet reference?
RisenFromAshes427 7 months ago
ahhh plaguuuuuu. playguuuu
MrRobocop12 7 months ago
PLAYGUUUUUUU!?
Youngredfield 9 months ago
lol the first clip was hilarious those hydras just dying xD
dh144498 11 months ago
... ... ... PLAYGU!
Relurek 1 year ago
this was how ZvZ should have been played, ideally. Nowadays it's only mutaling.
brainwasher9876 1 year ago
WHO WON?!
KrnBenjamin 1 year ago
omg get a korean commentator in here
KrnBenjamin 1 year ago
low > bgh and that purple is a big noob for running into the lurkers without reveal...
BurnDadah 1 year ago
@BurnDadah this was a pro game...
ericnrivers 1 year ago
@ericnrivers oh... and silly me always thought "pro game" means all players are pro...
BurnDadah 1 year ago
@BurnDadah i didn't mean that they are all pro. sorry for the misleading. :(. I just meant that if a player is good enough to be in the pro games, even if he/she ain't pro, that person is still good enough to be a good player. Purp prolly just didnt notice since the enemy was already attacking him.
ericnrivers 1 year ago
I miss cholera
ceridan01 1 year ago 4
I love his commentary.
porkypine745 1 year ago
Ha! you'll maybe be as good as a korean commentator in 20 years if you practise a lot till then ^^
you're like, "ohh my god, yeah, a plague, look at that." ...
PLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGUPLAYGU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
CarlosAvilla 1 year ago 5
damn i wish i could play like that.
I'm a terran player, can anyone teach me how to play?
I play on east.
Fyro.
Fetcha200 1 year ago
I always wonder if two simultaneous plague casts damage the same as doing those plagues one after the other.
jokacho 1 year ago
@jokacho You cannot apply a new plague on a plagued unit until the old plague has fallen off, so it would only do 300 damage.
Zidana123 1 year ago
not enough playguuu
aimthailaxu 1 year ago 9
"shaozee"
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d3fil 1 year ago
late game zvz :\
ChubbyChiBee 1 year ago
Nice Romeo and Juliet reference.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
Most intense ZvZ ever
TheXeroSkill 2 years ago
Who won )=
Neptune513 2 years ago
Is hold Lurkers still an allowed strategy in official competition? I assume it is, but I just rarely see it being used even though it seems like a good strategy.
Kleavers 2 years ago
Spam stop button is allowed. But pick your opponent as "ally" in diplomacy is forbidden. (So ally mine is forbiden).
Glioburd 2 years ago
@Glioburd No one does "Spam stop buttons". What's being done is the lurkers are being told to attack a building that is not in sight. For example, if you make your lurkers attack an enemy building that's not in sight (meaning, that you know the building is there, but it's in fog), that makes the lurkers attempt to attack the building, but because they can't move, they can't attack, and they can't being an attack animation towards something they can't reach, so they just stop.
Nondo 1 year ago
@Kleavers cause like zvz is short with only mutalist and barely see lurks in zvz...
tvz terrans barely push out.. they push out like wen they get their vessels out...
and same for zvp obs and lurks dont 1 shot protos units like marines :))
final650 2 years ago
I call whites pro
sC2iscoming 2 years ago
Not bringing overlords... He deserved those lurkers.
rapaicruma 2 years ago 4
shit =/ ZvZ is intense
DaFunnyThief 2 years ago
ZvZ late game ftw =D
Ruo94 2 years ago 2
Longcat wins every time.
andthatsforthewin 2 years ago
satanik c+ rated noob
KillerCheebo 2 years ago
@KillerCheebo do you have a famous game on youtube? no? then shut up
pcrsweetness 2 years ago
GEE GEE!!
taxe0 2 years ago
LOL. If I could hear what the starcraft units were saying.... " AHHH PLAGYU GET IT OFF MEEEE" "LURKAHHH HOLD LURAKKKAHH"
ILuvhFood 2 years ago 2
just from this video alone I may sub this guy "there's Hydralisk blood everywhere"!
Warcraftian93 2 years ago
00:16 Needs moar screaming
LulzCC 2 years ago 6
Xiaozi is Chinese right?
xx765 2 years ago
Yeah, it means "Little guy" or "little dude"
TasteRasengan 2 years ago
ZvZ like nvr gets tht far nowadays...
jamvng 2 years ago 3
haha! Plague and Splash Damage two of my favorite things in StarCraft XD
O hai Brainwasher :D
UnrealFreak354 2 years ago
That guy needs to be Korean. Lolz
Pkpure930 2 years ago
cholera's APM when the plague goes off = 800 :O
qianweijia1 2 years ago
haha i was thinking the same thing! you can see when cholera is excited, the mouse is all over the screen trying to mark units :D. but nontheless thanks for uploading and good commentary :)
Lunkan164 2 years ago
YAAAHHHH PLAGU!!!!!
brainwasher9876 2 years ago 3
Quite an unorthodox ZvZ. Usually it's just Zerglings into Mutalisk. How long ago was this? Why was Hydras used and why the Zerg/Muta now?
BrokenVendingMachine 2 years ago
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BrokenVendingMachine 2 years ago
Great Shakespeare reference ^^
SahunHongPiano 2 years ago 2
PLAGUEEEEE ! PLAGUEEE ! HUUUUUUUUUUGE PLAAAAAAAAAGGGGGUUUEE ! ! ! ! ! ! i lost it when he yelled huge plague omg 1:55 ish
Shlunty 2 years ago
haha love the first bit commentary:
"these lurkers are omg the lurkers LURKER LURKERS AAARRGHH LURKERS!! I LOVE LURKERS!"
hahaha
hatecryme 2 years ago 2
"hold lurkers"
FrigoCoder 2 years ago
PLAYYY GUUUUU!!! Omg PLAYGUUU!
gnahzdivad 2 years ago
shakespeare pun in the title
Da1337ed 2 years ago
is there a link to the full game?
or at least could someone say where to download it?
tremapar 2 years ago
it's in my account - search it up by the players' names.
CholeraSC 2 years ago
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horrible commentator. kept messing up satanic and xiaozi. the last play was xiaozi's plague on SATANIC, not xiaozi's mutalisks getting killed.
musicalbasics 2 years ago
lol k newb, lets hear your commentary. cholera has given more to the sc community than you could ever dream of.
GGfaggot 2 years ago 5
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it's not hard to do commentary....
musicalbasics 2 years ago
u just called the best and most entertaining starcraft commentator horrible. not that's a horrible call :)
ermaduk 2 years ago 2
i dont think hes very good, and best and most entertaining starcraft commentator? what about tasteless or superdanielman? or artosis? they are alot better... maybe this guy has given alot to the starcraft community but i really dont like him as a commentator.
CameramanJumJum 2 years ago
oh. then why are you watching this video?
brainwasher9876 2 years ago
it shouldn't last that long unless they botht are to passive
iccupBeasTy 2 years ago
strange zerg game... normally it ends 2 mins after the spire is out ;D
r4j2iLL 2 years ago
bad wording on my part, i meant hes not enthusuistic but acts like it. but uhh, thanks for uploading anyways? :S
DeSTRoYeR992 2 years ago
how many zvz games actually go this late in tech?
Maplebangeek 2 years ago 29
less then 1% :P
kanpuchi 2 years ago
i know right? usually zvz are hella fast.
SeoWut 2 years ago
well they're foreigners
Da1337ed 2 years ago
Mutalisk versus longcat! xD I love the picture at the end
Quincy0047 3 years ago
noob plays
treehousemiso 3 years ago
those red and purple mutas look badass
TraumaRabbit 3 years ago
i dotn like this commentator lol
DeSTRoYeR992 3 years ago
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Firestonezz 3 years ago
lol im sorry i just like klazart more.. this guy is too.... into it but not really.. he acts like hes excited.. and hes really not at all. if you're not excited man, just dont act like it, it kinda of annoying lol
DeSTRoYeR992 3 years ago
what are you talking about? klazart's definitely the more annoying commentator.
rorcon 2 years ago
im a big fan of Klazart too, i like all the commentators. Anyway, sorry my first comment was so rude.
Firestonezz 3 years ago
all cool
DeSTRoYeR992 3 years ago
who won?
slyguy33945 3 years ago
looks like a good match could u like tell me where to get replay??
Imagination59 3 years ago
Allied mines don't even cost a cent of gas...
1 lurker costs 125 minerals & 125 gas.
That's another reason allied mines are illegal.
I can't believe that a zerg using such a large, non-standard force (with masses of hydra & devourer defence against air) wouldn't bring a single overlord. That's just far too much of a risk.
If a ZvZ match somehow goes on for so long, of course there's a chance the opponent would invest in lurkers.
Endelite 3 years ago
allied mines are illegal because of the fact that ur simply ALLYING urself to the opponent, which is illegal in pro tournaments. At least thats what i heard.
Firestonezz 3 years ago
STOP SAYING LURKEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS! please thanks..^^
steffen010 3 years ago
how the hell does a zvz last for 50 minutes?
TheatreHead 3 years ago 4
lol not sure, most pro zvz's ive seen ended with mutaling vs mutaling
seeing this escalate into defilers and hive units as you've seen is ridiculous
BoywondeR338 3 years ago
yeah, that's what i was thinking. Pretty much every tutorial that I've seen on zvz said that it should end in mutaling, and every single zvz game I've played has ended with mutaling.
or just 4 pool T_T
they must have both done something ridiculous like 3 hatch or something.
TheatreHead 3 years ago
I wish this was commented by the Korean SC fanatics...
PLAAAAGUUUUE!!!
ManicRevelation 3 years ago 42
You mean the MBC Game commentators? :P They would be the highlight of this game.
deathgod6q3 3 years ago
who said the zerg was purple it was red all over man.
talic864 3 years ago
/breathless mode on
and now this happens and now this happens and now this happens that was amazing
MamiyaOtaru 3 years ago
PLAAAAAAAGUEEEEEEEEE
orochimaruisugly 3 years ago 2
stop lurkers are deadly as hell, but aren't quite as cool as allied mines.... but its really the same concept... its just mines are quicker to tech too, thats why its illegal =\
feldagan 3 years ago
how in the hell did a zvz get to that late of a game lol.
KolYma89 3 years ago
Epic ZvsZ.
Stop Luckers means you take Luckers with another units, let's said Overload, then you make them Hold position, the Luckers wont attack utils you order, it's a very nice trap, 2 hold Luckers can eat a squad of marines..
SCWarkos 3 years ago
This game was highly entertaining but, yeah, if things were played like the Koreans it would've been maybe half the video time or less.
I do enjoy a long game though.
SiouxTube 3 years ago
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This commentator fucking sucks. I'd rather listen to the Korean ones even if I can't understand shit. HYDWALISK BLOOD EVERYWHAR?!?
DeeStylistic 3 years ago
never seen a zvz like that. and longcat ftw.
babyfran05 3 years ago
Beautiful! If only all ZvZs could be that epic ;)
RyotSC 3 years ago
Man, post-mutalisk ZvZ is the BEST MATCHUP.
ZergFireX 3 years ago
i dont think i could ever do something like that...thats just nuts
johnnymac9292 3 years ago
lol a late zvz
lightswarm124 3 years ago
wow. late game of zvz owns!
ddcat1987 3 years ago
amazing stop lurk
Jakiwiu 3 years ago
What is a stop lurk?
shutyourmouth2 3 years ago
0:15
the lurkers are in stop mode waiting the atk to do more damage
Jakiwiu 3 years ago
So, do you have to continuously tell the lurkers to stop so they don't attack, or is there an easier way to do it?
shutyourmouth2 3 years ago
I don't know :S
Jakiwiu 3 years ago
Actually no that's not how you do stop lurkers. Technically pressing S is one way to do it, but it's not practical in a game where you have to multi task.
There are tricks to doing it. One way is to have the lurker attack a building in the fog of war and out of range like a scouted enemy Hatchery really far away.
I think it also works by grouping it with an overlord and pressing hold position.
BlackMagister 3 years ago
Doing one of these tricks stops the lurker from attacking. Then all you have to do is press S so they'll cancel the previous command that they were unable to do like hold position or attacking something in the fog.
BlackMagister 3 years ago
Wow! Thanks for the tips. It's soo much easier that way, and I'll be sure to do that.
The overlord thing does work, BTW.
shutyourmouth2 3 years ago
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wen u press stop over and over agian so the lurker doesnt attack..
anyone else annoyed by this stupid commentator??
Vballer73 3 years ago
no, it's just you
Scr3amingN1nja47 3 years ago
what were those purple thacks that stuck to the units? is this an expansion of SC?
lumix555 3 years ago
plague + mutalisks with their "splash" damage = pwnage... too bad that ZvZ is usually so short that you dont see this combination often
C3nsuRED 3 years ago
HUUUUUGE PLAGUE!! That is so Klazart to say, tho you pulled it off nicely :)
djYngin 3 years ago
Sometimes I wish korean pros weren´t quite as perfect at their game, so we could se some longer, sloppier games like this one. It was definitely awesome to behold. I didn´t think I could watch a 50 min. game in its entirety, but I was glued to the screen. ZvZ rules, and Cholera rules.
*Shakes fist* A plague on both your houses!
iamjacksrevenge 3 years ago
genius!
you rock cholera this is fav'd!
thundasc 3 years ago
man this make me want to see more pro games go into the late game for zerg
nesquick1256 3 years ago
awesome song, awesome highlights.
pandemik1755 3 years ago
Absolute pwnage.
wormspwn 3 years ago 2
Song: Zero.
Artist: Smashing Pumpkin.
EvilArcherDude 3 years ago
The part where he used Dark Swarm over the drones to protect them was my favorite. "Business as usual" even with death flying right above them.
BlackMagister 3 years ago 5
the plagues was wonderful, but I think the difference between "foreign player" and Korean players is: In the stopped lurker case and guardian case, they will retreat, because they know that even they stick to it, the damage they can do is still very small, especially the stopped lurker case, hydralisks can definitely get back because they have much more hp than M&M.
wormite 3 years ago 3
These were foreigners playing...
joebmaster 3 years ago
That is why he is saying that if they were koreans they would have the reaction time to pull the hydralisks away once they noticed the stop lurkers. Like how people dance away from psionic storm with hydras.
iamian1987 3 years ago
THIS IS WHY WE LOVE STARCRAFT
Teis88 3 years ago 4
awesome putting this together, lol after watching ur commentary i was gonna do this, u saved me alot of work :)
bryanep 3 years ago
this was one of my favorite games of all time. great play on both sides
rlsoccer101 3 years ago
Lol, nice.
CaptainWaffles 3 years ago
Wow. That was some epic scale plagues!
ZkilfinG2 3 years ago