An Emergent Manifesto of Hope

[777bal]

Even one does not agree with emergant theology.It amazes me how christians deny scriptural teaching for social or lets say biblical good works to wards neighbor and the world.We have made consumer capitalism so much our God,that we don't even know how to think it terms of community well being instead of consumer self interest "profit".It makes me sick.....Please check out on Youtube a video titled the "The Mondragon experiment" it is not to long.Study "Distributism" Thanks

[NixonisLord]

Mainline Protestantism has come up with gimmick after gimmick to keep the illusion alive that it's "relevant" and "progressive" and "prophetic"; it's still over 90% White and middle/upper middle class. It's preached "diversity" while remaining as tediously bland and simpering and prim as it was under Eisenhower. It this is the best it can do, throwing yet another set of buzzwords around, no wonder the fastest-growing segment of the US religious identity "pie" is "None of the Above".

[zoltron30]

its a very dangerous thing to preach another way of salvation......

[Strefanasha]

we get watery liberal here who stand for nothing. the trouble is the other side of the coin is othorodox fundamentalists who are every bit a bigotted as these liberals see. and despise.

so there is NOWHERE to go . . . .

but christ in person

[Strefanasha]

note, the word god was mentioned ONCE, christ, jesus faith, and grace not at all. and the word gospel was twisted totally. they are talking about something they invented, jut another pointless irrelevance burbling in the corner, which is what theworld actually wants

they can play their feel good games without me, as the rock song says THEY GOT NOTHING I WANT THEY GOT NOTHING I NEED

[thesacredcowtipper]

What is Christianity? It is repentance and faith in Christ and then following Christ and His Words. These people are reinterpreting the simple message of the Bible to fit a post-modern world because they have created a Jesus that doesn't exist in the scriptures. It is almost as if they are ashamed of Jesus adn what He has said and stands for.

[cats9900]

Tony Jones tried to sell me black tar heroin, and then proceeded to suggest I have a late-term abortion.

[daveme7]

For others it is about how we can lie and slander those who we disagree with because-1. They use the bible whichy is practically a sin to base practice on the bible 2 How to undermine the bible 3 how to hypocritically dog consumerism and then write as many booksa as we can and publish as quickly as we can building a niche market 4 how can we lie about others and when called to account cry foul-your not loving enough

[roco2808]

Wow, if these comments are a reflection of Christianity...it is a sad commentary.

[Nesjama]

Yeah isn't it. What a shame.

[33388665599]

1:27-Being hopeful isn't what Christianity is all about. It's much more about repentance and faith that Jesus paid our penalty of sin.

FOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD-ROMANS 6:23

[33388665599]

Wow, they have couches. That's real reformation isn't it. This is un-biblical madness. God help these poor people.

[greatsea]

There is an evangelical semiotic barrier between non-Christians and Christ that is blocking the way. What emergents have done is declare a moratorium on standard rhetoric, not because it's not true, but because it has become needlessly obstructionist. The Son of God clears away these stones and says follow me, uncompromising as ever. The way is still narrow, just not narrow-minded. But emergents do need to beware of pride and license. Uncle Screwtape is not just a fictional character.

[Psalm1267]

Hey, is Tony gay?

[gtrjunky]

No but his "theology" is.

[Psalm1267]

Are you sure? Do you know him?

[gtrjunky]

No, I don't know him, but I don't think he's gay. He's never said so anyway.

[PilgrimToChrist]

Probably not, most Evangelicals and Youth Group Leaders dress like that... to be "hip" and "trendy", but it mostly comes off looking "gay".

[loveenduresall]

Actually, if they were trying to look "gay" they would more than likely be much better dressed. (not a sarcastic statement)

[qaileys]

That has to be the most rediculous video I have ever seen. They said nothing about nothing. Was Christ glorified? To them it is about them and their legacies rather than furthering the Kingdom of God. Repent of your sinfulness, have faith in Jesus Christ, believe in Him and you will be saved. To follow Christ is to deny ourselves and following Christ. This will not be popular even to those like these two heretics. But that is Christianity in its true and raw form. The EC is New Age religion!

[daveme7]

@qaileys I wish I had something really spiffy and awe inspiring to say as I do not so I will leave it as this-AMEN!

[charlie3unit27]

They want to create something that they can pass on to their kids so their kids "can make and reform and form their own legacy" more like their own beliefs, relevance, and "perfectly vague" as Michadelic said

[charlie3unit27]

"I've been really thinking words like Justice, Love, and Gospel...they all mean the same thing"

"I mean justice IS gospel, to work for justice means to be gospel people"

But their definition of justice is a social form, and I don't see an equality of Justice with the Gospel of Christ, it's important, but the Gospel is CHRIST! Not Justice! To be gospel ppl means to live as and preach Christ.

[Michadelic]

Perfectly vague. These people stand for nothing except the warm fuzzy feelings they get when they talk about their "faith." When the fuzzy feelings leave, and they do, what is left?

[MITZMAN]

These 2 antichrists are new age drones blathering doctrines of demons...

Jesus said My kingdom is NOT of this world..

Hmmm that leaves only one other god-wannabee to lead the emerging kingdom on earth ...

Lou Charles Fer

[stuffic123]

Tony Jones is an arrogant and insubstantial self-publicist whose just trying to get rich and famous. He has nothing to say and Princeton was stupid to pick him up.

[dadgramps]

There really is no debate read 1 coinithians 15 1-9 thats the new testament Gospel is that what your church teaches

?Jesus Christ is God Did He Is He saving you from sin now? Don't change the "take up your cross daily" of Jesus Christ "Go into all the world"tell those who have not heard..not just regurgetate new ideas to coax.

[shredforjesus]

i can't even believe this. i just pray for those new believers who aren't solid in doctrine and then come listen to this junk. its so misleading its unbelievable. cheers, raspeaker

[dadgramps]

the church is not a mtehod or world view is is followers of a person THE PERSON JESUS CHRIST and he never owned a couch

[jschilling21]

Jesus never owned much of anything. How much do stuff do you own? What are you doing for the glory of God with the things that you do own? Those are the more important questions. Not "Do we have church on pews or couches?" or "Am I an emergent or whatever?" We need to concern ourselves less with the debate of emergent vs. fundamentalist vs. whatever and concern ourselves with the lost.

[dadgramps]

The Bible is clear and defining not confusing

what is "beautiful christianity" you have no definitions

[vekl]

Pagitt is antichrist. Simple is that. Galatians 1:6-9

[kaylarose624]

Really guys...they have to be joking.

[omvendelse]

These men have totally misunderstood what the gospel is about. A hindu or a budhist, could have sid exactly the same things they said. It seems like the are more pantheistic influenced than bibelinfuenced.

Nobody gets saved in their churches, because they do not preach repentence from sins. And if they say thats oldfashioned, well okay but that is what Jesus preached.

[LaneCh]

Why, Baker Books? WHY!?

[jce543]

I really like the idea of emergent (missional) churches, but when they talk about re-formation what do they mean. If they look to the past and see a different church structure, then I would say that sounds OK, but if it is just an excuse to become more liberal or new age then I strongly disagree.

But not all emerging churches are heretical.

[hansok77]

The real hope of these emergents is that we will abandon Christian faith and morals in order to conform to the world. Sorry guys but I am not interested.

[raspeaker]

Amazing! This is the most misleading propoganda I have ever seen. Emergentvillage rejects every doctrinal essential of Christian faith! This is an anti-faith movement invading the church to make us conform to the world. Wolves in sheeps clothing!

[SoonVerySoon]

Please visit "The Seduction of Christianity" on YouTube. In four 30 min. parts.

[tsnGodguy]

I am not big on Christians turning on other Christians so I will just say, after spending a year studying the Emergent church (including time at the church here and speaking to each othe guys in the video) and the emerging church movment (two different things, I do suggest stearing clear of the teachings of Emergent and I would not recommend the book.

[SteveBarkley]

Behold the whore of Babylon is revealed! When the Devil came, he was not red.

Just kidding. The friendship idea is perfectly suited to express the heart of Christian unity. I'm looking forward to reading the book.

[RaptureMe2]

The so-called leaders who are supposed to be teaching the WORD of God are going to pay for switching their loyalties from Jehovah God to the big green god.