They just dont know how? They moan about the middlemeb/ seller that pay them little money for their hard work which undestandable. But also i feel they should keep their culture generation after generation because we surely regret when it gone forever.
I believe education is important to everyone even the orang asli have the very right to go to school. I dont really blame the govt because i dont think they r angry with the govt. Im sure the govt will repair and make better shelter if they ever ask/request.
I'm from UK, and I've worked with some of these indigeneous tribes before. True that the government is at fault to a certain degree, but the tribes are responsible for themselves. They need a change in attitude. They need to make a decision, to maintain their way of life or get out there into the world. I don't believe in a welfare nation. Everyone need to earn their keep. If you don't want to step out of ur comfort zone...hey..don't blame others if you're not comfortable with ur "situation"..
not really. malaysian malays claim they are the bumiputra in malay peninsula BUT never claim these people as the first people. filipinos admit that our negritos are the first people. in short, filipinos recognize their minorities unlike racist malaysian malays.
For past 15 years there is many changes happen in my hometown and i believe it's not just happen there,our land taken and develop to mega plantation which is doesn't benefit to us at all,luck for Tasek Bera because it's declare as reservation area under RAMSAR conservation which is prevent our land taken,personally i don't trust in current goverment and i believe most of educated orang asli like me think the same way like i do..
It's more of a colonial construct.. and I agree with farish Noor very much aye of how the post-colonialism Malaysian constitution is a colonial construct which actually failed... To my point of view, its important for malays to stand both on their feet and don't depend on benefits and NEP especially those Middle and High income people... Benefits should be given to low income people in terms of education collectively as a whole Malaysian regardless ethnicity..
i agree with bagang2011,what he said are true most of us still holding on our traditional believe,yet when we register as a Malaysian there is written "Islam" as our religion,it's happen to 2 of my siblings and they have difficulties to change what have written on their IC..and mohi,i do my research of where/what are we,thanks for your details explaination,so please don't think that we are not watching what other races says/do..we just DO,not just talking,Walk the talk..enough say
one thing you must know remiet, the main reason why do that is they want to make you "melayu".
what they are doing is a political game in order to make the "malay" ethnic more larger in number so they can out compete chinese and Indian... remember, the main reason why the Brits associate malays with islam is so they can include the Indonesian settlers into the "malay" definiton as a tool to combat communism ?? yea, we walk the talk and we should do something with our constitution.
so who are we ?? we so called "malays" are nothing more than pendatang... Just like the Indians and chinese. I think the orang asli and other poor and destitute people regardless of race should be the ones tha get benefits... nOt those freaking aristocratic civilised malay... and sorry to say, I am talking from a malay perspective myself.
What I believe is right for orang asli is not rapid modernization, but the rights to practice their culture and Leave their ancestral land alone !!!
Even the so-called javanese, melayu, Achenese originated from the orang asli that came from from Peninsular malaysia. It is just that they have intermarried with Indian, chinese, arabs etc. which make them look different from their ancestors and also the religion they adopt. To me. To me, if I compare the malays and the orang aslis, definitely they deserve more rights because they are the 1st to inhabit the land when the peninsular was uninhabited.
the Johoreans, selangoreans consist of javanese, mandailings, Bugis . The kedahans consist of Achenese, mamak Indian muslims and arabs. While the original malays are small in nmber and I can say the orang aslis are way larger in Population then them... To be honest remiet101 , your people are especially your Semelai tribes are the progenitors of the Melanesian, Micronesian and Polynesian people and that is something u should be proud of...
and Finally adhere to Malay adat..Even the definition of malay adat is blur because we have some of those Johorean malays who insist to be still called "Bugis, Javanese, achenese, arabs etc". So to begin with, that so-called benefits given to the "malays" is actually superficial and not real...They don't deserve it... The constitutional malay came about as a political tool to fight communism... The real malays are in very small number.. Consider this, the kelantanese are champa people
Many Indonesian foreign settlers that settle in the Malayn peninsular more than 10 years.. Then you have arabs, indian muslim foreigners etc. So what happen is, the British made up the dfeinition what is a malay in order to make the maalys strong in number, so that they can overcome the problem of chinese taking over the country and fall into the communism. So you know, Those Indonesian settlers is what has become your "malay" today... they are mostly Muslims, speak malay dialects
The Malaysian constitution article 160(2), in defining what is a malay, is an ethno-religious construct of the Birtish colonial masters. B4 When the british want to gave independence in 1957, They put their trust to the Malays to take over the rule , however they don't trust the chinse because of Communist influence. However, theres a problem. The "original malays" are so small in numbe to over rule the majority chinese and minority Indians and yet you have many Indonesian foreigners...
I'm Orang Asli,believe it or not i can write and read in English,thanks to my dad that worked so hard to make sure i become who i'm today,most of us want to improve ourself but we know what happen better than any others..i'm from Tasek Bera home for Semelai Tribe of orang asli,whateverDec said many things that hurt my feeling and claiming his right but how about ours?Honestly,all of orang asli don't feel like we are independent at all..
Yeah,It's true.. Do you want to know why ? My friend, the Malaysian system itself was a neo-colonialist construct. It is some bunch of leftovers from our British colonials. That's why if you're a poor person or an Indigenous minority, you'll be treated as 2nd class citizens or bumiputras... I know how it feels like getting slur from those so-called "civilised" malays, but remember there are some other Malaysians that have much concern about you and your welfare...
This is how competent BN is. They would not have been neglected if there is no such raced based party...the UMNO, MCA and MIC should be responsible for this. It is a shame...outright shame! Aren't they bumiputeras as well? It is time Pakatan Rakyat to do something about this.
macam nak sembahyang aku tak tahu, ..nanti berdosa nanti mati...
The UMNO leaders should listen to his confession...SHAME on them..these so called "UMNO LEADERS'...ader KLCC kat KL yang dibanggakan...but at the same time look at these people...living in huts...unbelievable...
who is bumiputera?Who is immigrant??What i see is Orang asli and iban & kadasan in sabah sarawak are bumiputera...malay are just earlier immigrant compare to chinese and india...malay stop claiming....
when referring to bumiputras,we should take note about the orang asli as well.i think they need a lot of help from the government more than the malays.they are left behind in terms of modernisation.yet they never complained.its not their fault that they are left behind.its the governments because they didnt guide them/provide them with basic necessities.other races should be grateful and thankful of what we have.just look at the orang asli.sigh..
Pendaftaran Negara yang terdiri daripada banyak orang Islam.. dengar ckap mase orang asli nak buat IC, Pendaftaran Negara sengaja letak perkataan 'Islam" kat IC diorang.... orang asli ni tak tau pun. Ade juga yang sedar, pastu kene tukar secepat mungkin.. kalo tak, tau la kan...
Yea the government helped many people get out of poverty but what make people still angry is that they know the government can always do it better, but they don't want to.
If najib's RM500 million commission was cut to RM50 million, how many poor villages can be helped? but najib's wouldn't cut it, instead, he wanted more.
there is not only one 'najib' in Msia, but many more! more salary raise or keeping the gas price is possible, but wealth distribution should be repaired first!
"Forgotten"?? They have been "left behind"??? Squalid huts that leak when it rains??? Hasn't it been this way for thousands of years? Why is "development" a good thing? Development of the forest means logging and damming, then they will live in concrete slums with no subsistence at all. Its land rights and self determination they need, not 'development'.
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yes they are the real bumiputras. so what? the number of malaysians living in those conditions is so small compared to the millions of other malaysians who can live in a house and work. if they have never known about city life what would make them think it would be better then their lives now. thats been their way of life. the govt has helped so many malaysians get out of poverty anyway.btw so many people have ancestors who are not from the country they are born in.
if someone refuses to acknowledge my right (as the REAL bumiputera), then why should I even bother to recognise some dumb puppet UMNO idiot who molly-coddles the useless and lazy Malay race.
Questions that are illogical? No need to be cynical, I've fully functioning ears & I faham the clip, I just thought u were referring YOURSELF as an orang asli and so just asked to clarify what you meant. No need to snap lah
Ok, fair enough, that's ur perception. But what the OTHERS + me were referring to is how they're being neglected, still living in huts, kids educationless, etc. It's also sad, our leaders are heavily racists albeit now being 50 yrs merdeka alredi
take a look at your own self. writting in caps, means yelling, rude & a no-no in cyberspace manners.
why should i expect u 2 know that?? u r just a young msian punk, studying in queens. for all we know, it must be some umno/malay scholarship.
geezz..when i did my postgraduate in UK, i sure didnt have time to strum guitars 20 thousand times like you. cos i was either busy studying or working part-time in some kitchen.
Last time I checked, capitalization of certain words means emphasizing them, not yelling (yelling is when the whole sentence in capital)
Gee, name calling & demeaning my university, for someone your age? And do go on generalizing all Malays, which is no different than most white Americans generalizing all Muslims as terrorists. I'm sure that 'helps' to rectify the matter
Since I can't even ask for clarification on your statement & get insulted, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt
It's sad eh? Malaysia said they opposed Apartheid last time, and look at this. We spent all that time back in the 80's and 90's opposing it, just to have it in our Government.
I wish the government would realise what stupid things they have done; dividing the races and religions, almost poorly handling the economy and suppresing political freedom.
How can we achieve Vision 2020 if the Goverment keeps stalling it all the time?
What have they done to you my once beautiful country?
These guys are way better than the malays, for sure !
sezhian6911 2 years ago
They just dont know how? They moan about the middlemeb/ seller that pay them little money for their hard work which undestandable. But also i feel they should keep their culture generation after generation because we surely regret when it gone forever.
mssite 2 years ago
I believe education is important to everyone even the orang asli have the very right to go to school. I dont really blame the govt because i dont think they r angry with the govt. Im sure the govt will repair and make better shelter if they ever ask/request.
mssite 2 years ago
I'm from UK, and I've worked with some of these indigeneous tribes before. True that the government is at fault to a certain degree, but the tribes are responsible for themselves. They need a change in attitude. They need to make a decision, to maintain their way of life or get out there into the world. I don't believe in a welfare nation. Everyone need to earn their keep. If you don't want to step out of ur comfort zone...hey..don't blame others if you're not comfortable with ur "situation"..
nathanielblythe 2 years ago 6
i agree with you. im sick and tired of people choosing to blame the government for everything under some circumstances like this.
wenfuu 2 years ago
Wisely put.
Sjovn 2 years ago
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abletony84 2 years ago
They have similar situation of the black people here in the Philippines..
jayjay909845 3 years ago
not really. malaysian malays claim they are the bumiputra in malay peninsula BUT never claim these people as the first people. filipinos admit that our negritos are the first people. in short, filipinos recognize their minorities unlike racist malaysian malays.
july071992 2 years ago 3
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jayjay909845 3 years ago
it touched my heart somehow... damit.. what's wrong with the government?! shame on u,pak lah.
mangkongkek 3 years ago 4
For past 15 years there is many changes happen in my hometown and i believe it's not just happen there,our land taken and develop to mega plantation which is doesn't benefit to us at all,luck for Tasek Bera because it's declare as reservation area under RAMSAR conservation which is prevent our land taken,personally i don't trust in current goverment and i believe most of educated orang asli like me think the same way like i do..
remiet101 3 years ago
It's more of a colonial construct.. and I agree with farish Noor very much aye of how the post-colonialism Malaysian constitution is a colonial construct which actually failed... To my point of view, its important for malays to stand both on their feet and don't depend on benefits and NEP especially those Middle and High income people... Benefits should be given to low income people in terms of education collectively as a whole Malaysian regardless ethnicity..
Mohi 3 years ago
i agree with bagang2011,what he said are true most of us still holding on our traditional believe,yet when we register as a Malaysian there is written "Islam" as our religion,it's happen to 2 of my siblings and they have difficulties to change what have written on their IC..and mohi,i do my research of where/what are we,thanks for your details explaination,so please don't think that we are not watching what other races says/do..we just DO,not just talking,Walk the talk..enough say
remiet101 3 years ago
one thing you must know remiet, the main reason why do that is they want to make you "melayu".
what they are doing is a political game in order to make the "malay" ethnic more larger in number so they can out compete chinese and Indian... remember, the main reason why the Brits associate malays with islam is so they can include the Indonesian settlers into the "malay" definiton as a tool to combat communism ?? yea, we walk the talk and we should do something with our constitution.
Mohi 3 years ago
so who are we ?? we so called "malays" are nothing more than pendatang... Just like the Indians and chinese. I think the orang asli and other poor and destitute people regardless of race should be the ones tha get benefits... nOt those freaking aristocratic civilised malay... and sorry to say, I am talking from a malay perspective myself.
What I believe is right for orang asli is not rapid modernization, but the rights to practice their culture and Leave their ancestral land alone !!!
Mohi 3 years ago
Even the so-called javanese, melayu, Achenese originated from the orang asli that came from from Peninsular malaysia. It is just that they have intermarried with Indian, chinese, arabs etc. which make them look different from their ancestors and also the religion they adopt. To me. To me, if I compare the malays and the orang aslis, definitely they deserve more rights because they are the 1st to inhabit the land when the peninsular was uninhabited.
Mohi 3 years ago
the Johoreans, selangoreans consist of javanese, mandailings, Bugis . The kedahans consist of Achenese, mamak Indian muslims and arabs. While the original malays are small in nmber and I can say the orang aslis are way larger in Population then them... To be honest remiet101 , your people are especially your Semelai tribes are the progenitors of the Melanesian, Micronesian and Polynesian people and that is something u should be proud of...
Mohi 3 years ago
and Finally adhere to Malay adat..Even the definition of malay adat is blur because we have some of those Johorean malays who insist to be still called "Bugis, Javanese, achenese, arabs etc". So to begin with, that so-called benefits given to the "malays" is actually superficial and not real...They don't deserve it... The constitutional malay came about as a political tool to fight communism... The real malays are in very small number.. Consider this, the kelantanese are champa people
Mohi 3 years ago
Many Indonesian foreign settlers that settle in the Malayn peninsular more than 10 years.. Then you have arabs, indian muslim foreigners etc. So what happen is, the British made up the dfeinition what is a malay in order to make the maalys strong in number, so that they can overcome the problem of chinese taking over the country and fall into the communism. So you know, Those Indonesian settlers is what has become your "malay" today... they are mostly Muslims, speak malay dialects
Mohi 3 years ago
The Malaysian constitution article 160(2), in defining what is a malay, is an ethno-religious construct of the Birtish colonial masters. B4 When the british want to gave independence in 1957, They put their trust to the Malays to take over the rule , however they don't trust the chinse because of Communist influence. However, theres a problem. The "original malays" are so small in numbe to over rule the majority chinese and minority Indians and yet you have many Indonesian foreigners...
Mohi 3 years ago
I'm Orang Asli,believe it or not i can write and read in English,thanks to my dad that worked so hard to make sure i become who i'm today,most of us want to improve ourself but we know what happen better than any others..i'm from Tasek Bera home for Semelai Tribe of orang asli,whateverDec said many things that hurt my feeling and claiming his right but how about ours?Honestly,all of orang asli don't feel like we are independent at all..
remiet101 3 years ago
Yeah,It's true.. Do you want to know why ? My friend, the Malaysian system itself was a neo-colonialist construct. It is some bunch of leftovers from our British colonials. That's why if you're a poor person or an Indigenous minority, you'll be treated as 2nd class citizens or bumiputras... I know how it feels like getting slur from those so-called "civilised" malays, but remember there are some other Malaysians that have much concern about you and your welfare...
Mohi 3 years ago
This is how competent BN is. They would not have been neglected if there is no such raced based party...the UMNO, MCA and MIC should be responsible for this. It is a shame...outright shame! Aren't they bumiputeras as well? It is time Pakatan Rakyat to do something about this.
jayajsn 3 years ago
macam nak sembahyang aku tak tahu, ..nanti berdosa nanti mati...
The UMNO leaders should listen to his confession...SHAME on them..these so called "UMNO LEADERS'...ader KLCC kat KL yang dibanggakan...but at the same time look at these people...living in huts...unbelievable...
girlteri 3 years ago
who is bumiputera?Who is immigrant??What i see is Orang asli and iban & kadasan in sabah sarawak are bumiputera...malay are just earlier immigrant compare to chinese and india...malay stop claiming....
wawa440khz 3 years ago
oit some of us comes from there ..and most "original malay " are orang asli ..get facts right!!
jasonkidd301 3 years ago
when referring to bumiputras,we should take note about the orang asli as well.i think they need a lot of help from the government more than the malays.they are left behind in terms of modernisation.yet they never complained.its not their fault that they are left behind.its the governments because they didnt guide them/provide them with basic necessities.other races should be grateful and thankful of what we have.just look at the orang asli.sigh..
ezyguy01 3 years ago
Pendaftaran Negara yang terdiri daripada banyak orang Islam.. dengar ckap mase orang asli nak buat IC, Pendaftaran Negara sengaja letak perkataan 'Islam" kat IC diorang.... orang asli ni tak tau pun. Ade juga yang sedar, pastu kene tukar secepat mungkin.. kalo tak, tau la kan...
bagang2011 3 years ago
Yea the government helped many people get out of poverty but what make people still angry is that they know the government can always do it better, but they don't want to.
If najib's RM500 million commission was cut to RM50 million, how many poor villages can be helped? but najib's wouldn't cut it, instead, he wanted more.
there is not only one 'najib' in Msia, but many more! more salary raise or keeping the gas price is possible, but wealth distribution should be repaired first!
spalderz 3 years ago 2
"Forgotten"?? They have been "left behind"??? Squalid huts that leak when it rains??? Hasn't it been this way for thousands of years? Why is "development" a good thing? Development of the forest means logging and damming, then they will live in concrete slums with no subsistence at all. Its land rights and self determination they need, not 'development'.
ardardwine 4 years ago
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yes they are the real bumiputras. so what? the number of malaysians living in those conditions is so small compared to the millions of other malaysians who can live in a house and work. if they have never known about city life what would make them think it would be better then their lives now. thats been their way of life. the govt has helped so many malaysians get out of poverty anyway.btw so many people have ancestors who are not from the country they are born in.
himynameisduh 4 years ago
why should this be sad??
if someone refuses to acknowledge my right (as the REAL bumiputera), then why should I even bother to recognise some dumb puppet UMNO idiot who molly-coddles the useless and lazy Malay race.
whateverDec 4 years ago
am wondering what you mean by u'r the real bumiputera
why should this be sad? haven't you seen their so-called shelters, their level of knowledge about the country, the lack of education, etc?
aliparanoidfreak 4 years ago
excuse me, u need to listen 2 what is being said in the clip, b4 u start asking questions that r not logical.
sad meaning, why should it B sad, if i dont know who is the useless p.m. of msia.
will he provide me with food & housing, even if i knew who he was or not. What kind of difference would it make to my quality of life.
and for all that the gov has Not done, i rather not know his useless name.
who the real bumiputeras r?? it aint the lazy malays thats for sure. its the orang asli!!
whateverDec 4 years ago
Questions that are illogical? No need to be cynical, I've fully functioning ears & I faham the clip, I just thought u were referring YOURSELF as an orang asli and so just asked to clarify what you meant. No need to snap lah
Ok, fair enough, that's ur perception. But what the OTHERS + me were referring to is how they're being neglected, still living in huts, kids educationless, etc. It's also sad, our leaders are heavily racists albeit now being 50 yrs merdeka alredi
aliparanoidfreak 4 years ago
cynical? snapping?
take a look at your own self. writting in caps, means yelling, rude & a no-no in cyberspace manners.
why should i expect u 2 know that?? u r just a young msian punk, studying in queens. for all we know, it must be some umno/malay scholarship.
geezz..when i did my postgraduate in UK, i sure didnt have time to strum guitars 20 thousand times like you. cos i was either busy studying or working part-time in some kitchen.
definition of malay = lazy & spoilt.
whateverDec 4 years ago
Last time I checked, capitalization of certain words means emphasizing them, not yelling (yelling is when the whole sentence in capital)
Gee, name calling & demeaning my university, for someone your age? And do go on generalizing all Malays, which is no different than most white Americans generalizing all Muslims as terrorists. I'm sure that 'helps' to rectify the matter
Since I can't even ask for clarification on your statement & get insulted, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt
aliparanoidfreak 4 years ago
Dear Martha Stewart Of Cyberspace Manners,
Let us know when u get that encyclopedia of yours published, will ya
there goes name calling accusation again
'Your' uni.? yours? oh yes now i remember the malays own everything and get their slaves, the chinks 2 do their dirty work
yup the malays&muslims earned that reputation by their own doing
if the shoes fits, wear it. dont blame anyone.
nothing anyone has done/will do can help 'the matter'
u r right. im wasting my time with u.
whateverDec 4 years ago
A pessimistic 63 year old who picks on a 19 year old who simply asked a question & explained his perception?
I wish you find peace, Mister, and realize that not all of a race/religion you despise with all your might, are the same.
aliparanoidfreak 4 years ago
lets put everything in a nutshell
1. why did u initially ask that "what u mean, u r real bumi".
you being a malay, you & i know very well, WHY u asked that question.
2. if u r really sad, what have u done abt it all i see is u-tube clips of u strumming ur guitar, & showing off that u r studying in the uk.
hoi stop showing off lah. & do something proactive for your dumb country.
that is IF you r really sad abt the discrimination. & get off your high horse & do something.
whateverDec 4 years ago
so sad
jegaj7 4 years ago
It's sad eh? Malaysia said they opposed Apartheid last time, and look at this. We spent all that time back in the 80's and 90's opposing it, just to have it in our Government.
I wish the government would realise what stupid things they have done; dividing the races and religions, almost poorly handling the economy and suppresing political freedom.
How can we achieve Vision 2020 if the Goverment keeps stalling it all the time?
What have they done to you my once beautiful country?
IHaveOneEarth 4 years ago