Heavy weather sailing skills

[tomperanteau]

Thanks for the great video. Aside from the armchair/credit card sailors' comments, I really enjoy seeing other peoples' videos of their voyaging.

[mnpd007]

I was stationed in Greece in 1974, bought a small bluewater sloop (all wood) and taught myself to sail. On a solo dead-reckoning trip from Patras to Crete I got caught in a major storm. No radio, no GPS then, just a marine map and bad luck. Lost the mast, keel, and rudder after countless knockdowns and rollovers. As the weather cleared a fishing boat pulled me to within a half-mile of shore. I swam to shore and never looked back at the hull... which was about all that was left.

[HybOj]

What a nice ride, Neptun was on Your side :)

[drfeelnothing]

How`s the fishing..? LOL

[sertox12345]

now this kind of sail look great wow but i would do it with some who been sail long time so i dont get killed but it look like i could b next to you guys feeling it wow

[kenfo0]

4.8 of the people on board had never sailed before. .2 of the people fell overboard and are MAS.

[HallbergRassychannel]

You guys are real diehards sailing in these kind of conditions without a sprayhood or anything like that, but I guess it wasn't such a comfy ride...

[ToSeeTheSea]

Yes you are right ljlassi, we do sail this same boat in 35 knots + with the spinnaker up and the wind further aft of the beam when we are racing or training to race. We have even perfected jibing the spinnaker in similar conditions with a well practiced crew. But the purpose of this training was to practice heavy weather sailing skills.

[gamesbok]

@ToSeeTheSea Heavy weather sailing skills, and tap dancing.

[ljlassi]

These are the right sails for comfy sailing, but in races you just simply can't go only with the storm jib. Some people are actually using still spinnaker in 35 knots. Of course not in this squally wind.

[impleasen]

long john silver

[rolandgue]

nature is our friend

[Amatoriasnowy]

Awesome video! I'd love to know what kind of camera you're using and how you're avoiding the aweful white noise one so often gets with heavy winds on the mic.

Thumbs up for having that big comfort zone - I likes! ;)

[ToSeeTheSea]

@Amatoriasnowy I was using a Sony Cybershot with water proof housing. Yes sometimes the noise of the wind can be a real pain but I just got lucky this time.Thanks for your kind comments.

[ToSeeTheSea]

Yes it is a RNZN white ensign. Ships boats may also fly the White Ensign. These Sail Training Craft are attached to HMNZS Philomel.

[guyfwoodward]

@ToSeeTheSea Ah, ok. Thanks!

[guyfwoodward]

Sorry if someone's already asked this, but what is the ensign you are flying at the stern? It looks like a bit like it could be a RAN or RNZN naval ensign but I can't see the defacing and I would have presumed that only commissioned ships could fly either of those, as in the UK?

[lkinnyc]

The reason it doesnt look like "heavy weather Sailing" is because he has the proper sails up & the boat is in control. Thats where the "skills" come in.

A knucklehead would still have the main up & the boat would be pitching & rolling, the novice crew wouldnt learn anything good & the boat would probably be damaged. A lot of idiots on here.

[FatCatAnna]

Excellent - gets my juices going for the next sailing adventure - nice calm days are boring (but nice once in awhile) - but to use our skills - learn more - that's what sailing / living is all about!

[tommy192771]

thats the greatest. id love to be there. Heck i just want to be sailing.

[TheKYbrand]

6 knots of boat speed........ 45 knots....... thats pretty lame

[tomperanteau]

@TheKYbrand <--- Young boy that has never sailed...

[mickcollins5]

Nice job....what sort of speed were you getting on the storm jib?

[ToSeeTheSea]

@mickcollins5 A relatively comfortable 5-8 knots depending on the strength of the squalls. The good thing about the storm sails is they seem to have a large range of wind strength that they are useful in, which is really handy in unstable squally conditions.

[pocobasso]

I'd like to know who the wacko is that's filming this from the topside.

[ToSeeTheSea]

@pocobasso That would be me doing the filming. In fact I have done 99% of the filming you see on my channel. Wacko? We all have our level of comfort zone. As an adventure training instructor/facilitator my comfort zone had to be broader than those I was trying to encourage to step out of their comfort zone. Risk Management was a big part of my work. Try getting out of your comfort zone sometime, you might be surprised what you can achieve.

[NowLifeStarts]

@ToSeeTheSea Wonderful advice and great video. Thanks!

[Bug222223]

Can you still sail to the bahamas in one of these boats as well as live in it?

[DouglasMiles1]

@Bug222223 You can saill around the world in this type of sail boat. Just takes knowledge, experience, drive, and lots of cash.

[Grimganker]

sailing can be easy.. but not as easy as turning a key and roaring away in your baja.. the hard part is hitting the gas pumps suckers. Sail4life

[tommy192771]

saying sailing is easy is bull crap. sailing is very hard to do but the more you do it the better you get making it easyer for you

[ToSeeTheSea]

@tommy192771 It's like anything there is a hard way and an easy way. If sailing is hard then your doing it wrong. I could have most complete novices with a will to learn how to sail out on the water in the right conditions enjoying a sail and wanting more within a day (weather permitting). The trick is to sail within or slightly beyond the limits you are comfortable with and capable of. Sailing is easy so long as you match the type of sailing you do with your experience and skill.

[dboy4ever]

@ToSeeTheSea it's like saying driving is easy if one stays in a vacant parking lot. Duh! But sailing is hard in the sense that there are always new things to learn even for the most seasoned sailors. There are always ways to challenge yourself no matter how much you know. This is why the experienced sailors tend to be very humble. I guess the arrogant ones like you either never become experienced, or get eliminated off the gene pool very early.

[ToSeeTheSea]

@dboy4ever You are right. Yes sailing is as hard or easy as you want to make it. Such a diverse sport or recreation or lifestyle that has something for everyone. Some people are happy in a small lake, others go on to be part of epic ocean races. To say I am "arrogant" is a bit harsh, you will be hard pressed to find any of the 1000 plus people who were a part of 30,000 miles sailing I've helped learn sailing to agree with you, and you get to know people well at sea on a yacht with up to 10 crew.

[Zobias]

No information at all

[ToSeeTheSea]

@Zobias What would you like to know?

[ToSeeTheSea]

BigCheez, Sailing is easy. Sailing fast is a bit harder. If you really want to sail there are dozens of ways to start. Learn the basics from a book, then get out there and just do it, best with someone else that has some skills first. you'll be surprised how fast you will learn enough.

[TheBgcheez]

@ToSeeTheSea - thank you!! I am trying to raise the money for a nice sailboat now (should have done this years ago).

[TheBgcheez]

Man I wish I knew how to sail! I would pack all in and leave today.

[aviv616]

@TheBgcheez

[johnjsil]

I used to said my Columbia 26 in the SF Bay in whatever conditions that place could dish out - seen 50knt winds out there and 6 foot chop - People say if you can sail the SF Bay you can sail anywhere in the world - I think it's BullS-it ! Still - i wouldn't want to meet up with a big storm hundreds of miles in the middle of the sea - NO !!

[ToSeeTheSea]

@johnjsil Your right, big storms at sea produce big waves. I wave only needs to be 2 and a half times taller than the beam of a boat to capsize it. The shape of the wave is a major factor in this fact.

[AltaMirage]

@ToSeeTheSea I understand it is rather less than 2 1/2 x beam. More like beam height, if breaking fast enough.

[Lavenderrose73]

@johnjsil Oh I hear that! I just went sailing in the SF Bay yesterday and it was my first time (real) sailing. I'd just finished taking Beginning Sailing at the Aquatic Center (tripping out when the 14 or the 20 started tipping) and my grandfather had always used the motor on his boat when I was growing up. So I was very unaccustomed to the sailing at an angle thing. I'd like to go out and do it again... if I can manage not to be too nervous. (sigh)

[roko965]

he is sailing down-wind

[backhausen117]

wind speed?

it seems slow

[limestick]

i think it was quite an achievment considering they had 10 births on board.........who tied all those chords

[ToSeeTheSea]

That's really funny. The english language just screaming out to the commedians to do what they do.

[dilecta54]

Bellissimo!

[BrassUnicorn]

Hey whats wrong with all these negative people, I recon its a great clip, its hard to appreciate how rough it is out there when we view it on our laptops in the luxury of a warm lounge!

[tomperanteau]

@BrassUnicorn The negative people here are the young moron kids that have no idea what they are voting on. They only know that it is not something that their sub-100 IQ can comprehend..

This is a really great clip!

[frogzzer]

sorry my friend but if you think thats heavy weather you are a complete novice nothing more to say

[ToSeeTheSea]

Sorry you didn't find what you were looking for. The movie is about giving the skills of heavy weather sailing to novice sailors. You guys already know it all, it's the newbies we want to support.

[AltaMirage]

@frogzzer It is heavy weather. Not a survival storm, of course, but he didn't claim that. Get off your pedestal, there, mr. macho.

[nightsailer2112]

Mac, you'd have to experiance doing a sail change in 20+kts to get it. Just getting the trisail up is enough to change your life. Main gets stuck, boat pitches, you're up on the cabin top standing on your tip-toes hanging from the main sheet by one hand. Looks like a nice set to me. I would not have known they were inexperianced. The guy on the fordeck with the cam has more guts than most.

[BartBRH]

how far up did you put the sail?

[VoluntaryEffort]

Just past the first spreader, (about one third of the way up)

[xrs1ck]

Go the kiwis, miss those peanut slabs, bloody aussies dont know what theyre missing out on

[xyachtshifter]

It's a trysail, not a reefed sail. I notice we are using the correct terms for sails. It's a Jib.......etc.

[Mac45085]

The vid is titled 'Heavy weather sailing skills'. What skills? Standing at the wheel?

Ok, stormy weather, reefed sails, storm jib. and? where are the skills?

[ToSeeTheSea]

The crew were mostly new to sailing. Learning sailing skills is best done by practical experience. The skills a novice crew gain from sailing in these conditions are varied and range from cooking a hot meal coping with seasickness to keeping the yacht moving at a controllable speed with a well balanced sail combination. I guess you have to be there to understand.

The yacht is Sail Training Craft owned by the Royal New Zealand Navy and has given hundreds of sailors a greater level of sea sense.

[darraghtank]

fuck off mac i know sailors like you try to get other sailors confidence down because they dont know everything about sailing or are just doing it because its fun

[Mac45085]

did i hurt your little feelings rag-tank? :)

[darraghtank]

well its just i find theres two types of sailors

your of the cunt variety

[lunarossa94]

5 12345

[2ladiezzz]

wow .....you only used the front sail and achieved such a great speed

[Mac45085]

the 'front sail' has a name. its a jib!

[Gammler646]

WOW!!!

5*****

[chris42999]

people in the charter industry in Croatia are pretty nasty generally

[gordomello1982]

what's the length of this boat ? Great vid

[ToSeeTheSea]

12 meters (40Ft) Ten Births. Owned by the New Zealand Navy and used for Adventure training and developing some sea sense in their sailors.

[ToSeeTheSea]

@gordomello1982 It's 40 foot long or 12 meters

[Scrubs2U]

Great shot. Man and the sea, we belong together. Looks like so much fun when done with the right crew.

Thank you

[drfeelnothing]

The idea of sailing is control,not trying to see if you can endanger yourself.Putting up the least amount of sail to get the job done is key.Job well done..when should you reef?...the first time it enters your head.

[edshift]

I know this must have been extreme and you have the right sails up for the conditions ( and more importantly you got them up in time - Top Gratz)

But.

The main looks so comical. - It's tiny...

lol.

[edshift]

I have nothing but respect for you.

Sailing on the west coast of Scotland -moody 336 and we were caught with too much sail up - wind blew up really suddenly and we thought we were almost at our destination - thought we'd manage it.

Boat screwed up to windward - helm was useless. we broached.

V. Scary.

Moral is reef early.

Top job guys.

EdShift

[michaelsrulee]

AWESOME !!! THANKS!

[rezpatriot]

your going the wrong way... lol... hey thats not that skillfull, you didn't hoist any sails or anything, no tacking, you just moved the rudder with a jib. lol. btw theat video is too short. plz post longer ones, any reason you didn't post a longer vid?

[fabriciobraga]

Very good video! Thanks for the post.

[swimfast247]

i have raced lasers in 40 knots of wind. however it was about 10 knots above my ideal wind speed

[JohnCaldwell666]

Bull crap: the yo-yo who said 40 knots is no big deal is full of you know what--and probably has never been out of site of land before

[gst69man]

great film thanks

[Maarteuh96]

thats fast! , i love sailing!

[matthijs2212]

Love it,

Wish i could get back to the sea..

[ToSeeTheSea]

Did you win?

[defleppard10294]

u fucken pussys on the 2008 coastal classic we had 35 gusting 45 and we had a full main and a #2 headsail, u guys r pussys

[uglyphil44]

35 to 45 isnt that strong on the ocean when you think about it we get that in sydney harbour quite often. strong is like some places that get high 50's or 60's on the ocean

[defleppard10294]

yeah but on a race that averages 20-30knot winds 45 is quite a bit, it was the worst coastal since 1989 which had 60-70kts!

[fiyahballz]

35-45 in sydney harbour... you assuies are intense.

40 is pretty good breezes even where im from

[skater11295]

40 knots can rip the mast off a boat....

and i bet youve never even sailed before

[uglyphil44]

we dont get it every day just mostly when wind is from the south we had a max of 35 from the NE this week  and a forcast of 20 to 25 for the rest of the week which will maybe be to much for me to teach school groups how to sail as they all are new to the sport

[jrandall181]

55knts outside south head in sydney harbour, caught by a downdraught of a storm, completely flattened

[redbugiii]

cool video !!!!!

[sighmoon]

What is the boat?

[ToSeeTheSea]

A Chico 40, Lines drawn buy Keith Eade and tweaked buy Gary Mull.

[Kaptainrdean]

Why do so few modern yachts not have a second track on the mast for a trysail...

It's a nightmare changeing them over when the weather justifies useing it.

I do agree with those who say you could be carrying more sail. But your not really that under canvased either and this is the sort of time you should have your storm sails up by if your expecting the really bad stuff. I'm a Pro Delivery Skipper. I'm only 24 I've

[ToSeeTheSea]

Some people become wise befor they get old. If I need a hand to cross oceans, you are the type of person I choose. May the see keep us honest and humble.

[Kaptainrdean]

sailed over 90'000nm, skippered 2 Transats in the northern lattitudes and crossed Biscay in every month, so I should know a little about this.

[tmsboston122]

What is that, a Beneteau(French for death trap)? On my BI40 that would be a single reef and a blade, just bury the rail and keep truckin.

[jenki72]

nallepuh6969: It's "yahoo jack-ass cowboys" like you who end up screaming for the coastguard to come bail you out of the dwang. All because you try to be a hero. One day Mother Nature's gonna kick your ass with that attitude.

[nallepuh6969]

Storm main??? I use a double reefed and maybe (if tired) a storm jib (and a spinnaker of course) in that kind of weather. wossies XD

[SailinganFD]

it is a storm tri-sail, less sail than most 3rd reefs, I hope I never need to set one.

[mbonkie]

A spinnaker in storm? Must be crazy. That eliminates all your options of rapidly turning the nose into the wind when necessary.

How much or how little sail to use depends on your capacities, those of your crew, and those of the boat, but in storm, keep options open.

[ThraxUK]

Been out in conditions like that in the English Channel - wasn't the most fun I had...

[lucidsalt]

This is not 45 knots...

[ToSeeTheSea]

What is it then?

[gbr672]

good reply

[punchpixie]

I agree. Perhaps the person who uploaded it meant that they had occasional gusts that high, but this is 20 knots...*maybe* 25, but looks like 20 to me.

[bcatatonic]

If it were really blowing hard enough to justify a storm trisail and storm jib NO ONE would be filming it! Good day for some practice.

[ToSeeTheSea]

It is easy to justify the use of storm sails when the vessel is not actually being sailed in a storm. They are handy for controling boat speed together with a well balanced helm to arrive at a destination at the desired time, or making the boat more comfortable in squally conditions. Many sailors underutilise these easy to handle sails because they believe they should only be used in a storm. It is surprising how fast storm sails will keep a boat moving even in 20 knots of wind.

[bcatatonic]

Agree! I'll admit it; I've only run up the storm tri at the dock. Good video and sweat looking boat!

[ProductionDesignrMAX]

Bcatatonic I will suggest that only a n00b, an idiot, or a ocean racer would be foolish enough to wait until its blowing hard enough to JUSTIFY a storm trisail... TO PUT IT UP.

Then you have crew doing dangerous shit on deck for no reason other than lack of prudence (aka arrogance)

[ModernGeographic]

Heavily hunkered-down reaching along, the boat is under control. Good thing the destination wasn't upwind, or the beating would've been unplesant! Nice offshore footage aboard a well prepared ocean-going yacht.