CF light bulbs are dangerous when broken CFL

[cwjakesteel]

What about the phenols produced when the light is simply left on? Those are neurotoxins too.

[oellerich007]

GE continuing to monopolize the world....

[trek1200233]

How about someday some company making direct replacement for the light bulb. Without all the problems CFL has with starting ,warm up time, light output ,enclosed fixture dangers and dimming problems with different mfg dimmers.Have been watching the SLOW progress to make a direct bulb replacement. Now progress is being made to go directly to LED lights which are better but verry expensive.

[noreaga12326]

(Continued) Who ever believes that using cfls and leds are better for the environment are a bunch of religious mental cases. The fact that you moron greenies would rather have ugly lighting in ur house for a MYTH that the planet will be saved if u dont use incandescents. If u use cfls or leds to save money in ur pocket, thats one thing. But to use them because u believe it will save the earth OR prevent climate change is just insane. A lot of u religious nut jobs need to seek some help

[TheDisproof]

@noreaga12326 Actually CFL's collectively are responsible for way less emissions of mercury than fossil fuel power stations particularly coal ones.

[noreaga12326]

@TheDisproof if thats what u believe, then more power to u buddy

[TheDisproof]

@noreaga12326 Belief? Nope, evidence from peer reviewed scientific papers: 65% of humanactivity emitted mercury is from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are the largest aggregate source. See: "Global anthropogenic mercury emission inventory for 2000". Atmos Environ 40 Pacyna E G et al.

Another 20% is from mining, metal production and cement production. CFL's are insignificant comapred to this. Most mercury in fish is from coal power stations.

[noreaga12326]

@TheDisproof CFLs alone will not save the planet. Incandescents have been around for over 100 yrs old and nothing happened to the planet. Please dont tell me that you believe Al Gore's global warming speech. if so, then im about to crack up

[TheDisproof]

@noreaga12326 I agree that CFL's won't make a big difference but saying they are dangerous when compared to the huge and much larger amounts of mercury in the atmosphere due to fossil fuel power stations is misleading.

I don't listen to Al Gore, I listen to every major science academy on the planet and observe the evidence that Anthropogenic GW is the best explanation for the majority of warming since the 1970's.

[GregWn]

@TheDisproof But what if you break them in your house?

[TheDisproof]

@GregWn Open a window, mercury concentration falls to safe kevels within minutes or even better don't break one or even better get an LED lightbulb :) p.s. No-one has ever died from exposure to mercury from their broken energy saving lightbulbs.

[noreaga12326]

who ever agrees with the incandescent ban is the governments pet. Im amazed at all these morons who are brain washed into believing such a stupid MYTH that cfls are good for the planet and that will prevent global warming. Anyone who would make their homes look like a hospital or a office just cuz the government told u to do so its freaking hilarious. I am proud of my home and if wasting energy means using nicer light quality, then so be it.

[DackIsBack]

Fluorescence = Electromagnetic-Radiation... BAD.

Mercury = Neuro-Toxin... EXTREMELY BAD, Worst of the heavy metals.

Cost of production, recycling and disposal = More than you'll ever know...

AVOID THESE, Go Straight To "LED", They last longer, The light quality is SUPERIOR They also use less then 25% of the power(truly green), They aren't toxic.

CFL is an Eco-SCAM.

I'll be stocking up on Edison's Incandescent's before they are Made ILLEGAL GLOBALLY.

[noreaga12326]

@DackIsBack im not sure if you're aware of this but incandescents will not go away 100%. yes, a ban will take place but with acceptions. Incandescents that are below 40 watts, over 100 watts, flood light versions, appliance lighting and rough surfing lighting are not included in the ban. Also, Halogen bulbs (energy efficient incandescents) are already hitting the markets and meeting the energy efficiency standards.Plus they look exactly like ur regular edison bulb. At least thats here in the US

[DackIsBack]

@noreaga12326 It's interesting how this ban is almost effectively... ineffective...

All my local stores/supermarkets stock the "rough service" bulbs, I just want to know how far the eco-fascists are willing take this bullshit, They might be targeting rough service bulbs next because they are obviously being used in the home.

[noreaga12326]

@DackIsBack all i can tell u is that the ban is a stupid idea. you said something very interesting but VERY TRUE. u stated that "the ban is almost effectively.. ineffective". even if the ban takes place,these bulbs will wind up in homes worldwide so the ban is useless cuz MOST ppl will still use incandescents. This is why we need to elect a REAL GOVERNOR, instead of liberals. this country would be a lot better if these idiots from congress stopped meddling in peoples lives.

[noreaga12326]

@DackIsBack i read somewhere that theres a 2nd efficiency standard that will take place after 2020 which MIGHT include rough service bulbs. So not only will i stock up on the 60 and 75 watt light bulb but i'l also start stocking up on rough service lighting ASAP. we still have at least 9 years to go as far as the rough service lights are concerned and there may not be a ban in them. But im not taking any chances.

[DackIsBack]

@noreaga12326 Yeah, They're not going to stop with this Eco-Facist shit...

If your in the UK we(Scotland anyway) need to get out of the UN, EU, UK, IMF... all that shit, there's no telling how far this could go, It could fuck our economy up... worse than it is.

I'm certain they'll amend the concurrent laws...

That's what they always do, Pass an act or legislation then slip through amendments to it while nobody is paying attention.

P.S. Read: HR 495 See Something, Say Something Act 2011

[DackIsBack]

@noreaga12326 I wonder if they really can cripple the market here...

There's only so much bullshit some people will take.

I love how the mention in this report that GE is NBC's parent company...

Then they say "THEY ARE SAFE!!!!(*whispers* just don't drop one)".

I imagine these bulbs also effect the alpha/beta brainwaves the same way Television has SCIENTIFICALLY proven to reduce brain activity to a sleep like state, It puts people in a suggestive state to beleive anything they fucking hear.

[ZapruderJr]

Kids also used to break open thermometers and play with the mercury in their hands, that still doesn't mean it's safe.

Yeah, George Burns lived to 100 despite smoking between 10 and 15 cigars a day, but I still wouldn't recommend it. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Mercury is way more dangerous than cigars, it has a cumulative effect on the brain, and it can be very harmful.

[gonzocaine]

yea, no, nobody wants to have to do that just for a lightbulb

toxic stuff in the home shouldn't be made like that

please invent another type of bulb

suckers invested millions in this, now they try to brainwash us, then try to lobby to force us to

get a led bulb

[AlexB2311]

I use LEDs-they are better for the environment and last longer then CFLS and incandescent

[trader0108]

I believe that CFL bulbs would last much longer if the CFL bulbs had large air circulation cooling holes in the base of the bulb to cool off the bulb's power electronics circuitry. The CFL electronic components circuitry operate at too high of a temperature, and that is why the power electronics frequently burn out and smoke up a room with burnt electronic component smoke ( and that is not mercury smoke, but which may also be poisonous ). I have had many CFL bulbs smoke up the room&no air holes.

[ZapruderJr]

Great. We risk poisoning ourselves all because we believe a declaration by some government idiot that says CO2 is a deadly poison.

[idontcare80]

@ZapruderJr Before I knew CFLs had mercury in them I purposely broke one right in front of my face, I felt no I'll effect.

[HybridPineapple]

Led's are even better

[PhuqueU]

That's probably mixed in with the Berium in Chemtrails.

[jsh78mang]

Stupidity on a large scale in another 50-60 years I'm willing to bet good money we will have an massive mercury problem, and people will die. I know no one who disposes of these light bulbs in this way they all go right to the dump. Fucking nanny state will be our down fall

[jsh78mang]

your not going to be able to they are going to stop selling them. They will also fine you if you have any in your home (I don't know how). Bush signed that piece of shit legislation in.

[crazybeavers155]

what about lava lamps and heat lamps and mircowaves and if they are bitching about mercury in the cfls and try leds leds are better and no mercury and safer then cfls why cfls why not leds i think this is just BULL SHIT and i think its all bullshit because u can make ur own lights using leds

[jsh78mang]

I agree our politicians in congress and last few Presidents have low ratings for a reason. They are incompitent and don't read half of what they sign.

[crazybeavers155]

lorl true ya this is stuiped  why are we doing this ?

[jsh78mang]

Because a small amount of people are going to make alot of money. Sad but true.

[crazybeavers155]

ya i agree lol im still not switching

[crazybeavers155]

TRY LEDS u moron

[YTXP0]

Hey, crazybeavers155, LEDs are not 100% perfect. Everyone should know this. If you have an old LED bulb and a new LED bulb side-by-side, the old bulb will be blue colored and the other new one will be white colored! That is a major problem if you don't want the house to look ugly. Also, we should also look for other alternatives like ESLs which are like "magically" the same as incans but use a lot less power. I also hope that LEDs will improve to 100% perfection, but it will cost lost of money.

[crazybeavers155]

that is true if u use a power sours that is greater then needed and if u might got a blue led lamp not that wihte one cfls are dangerious then incandecis because of that nad the tranformber

[muzalot]

I've observed numerous so called environmentally safe florescent bulbs burn out and spill their contents on the floor.. They never last as long as the claim on the box promises, in fact some fizzle out in less than a week, with minimal usage, then they either rupture and shower the room with mercury or end up in our landfill by the bay, where rain water run off deposits their mercury..

[mrsmuscadine]

if the white house will use them then i will!ha take that.

[crazybeavers155]

that is nothing i broke one im my room and nothing happen =-P brake the tubes in the thermostat and ur in troble i thing i broke a cfl in my fish tank but there was no water

[Mandalore06]

Just because you don't notice it, doesn't mean your not contaminated. Mercury has a nasty habit of building up in your system over time. Be careful.

[crazybeavers155]

dude i was just jokeing and i had the windows open and fans on and i step out of my room for 90 minutes

[IRISHMOBSTER55]

lol they try to be all green and no toxic but you can't even throw this shit away ahhh god what is happening to the world

[gonzocaine]

they better come up with a safer bulb by 2014...this law and this bulb is ridiculous

[crazybeavers155]

leds leds L E D S safer and last longer

=-P

[AlexB2311]

@gonzocaine

There are safer bulbs-they are called LEDs. I bought some from home depot and they put out pretty good light.

[idontcare80]

@gonzocaine About once a year I take a box of used batteries and CFLs (I've only had a few that I've had to take after using them for about 4 years) to a place where they are disposed of properly or recycled. It's not some massive inconvenience.

[DackIsBack]

@idontcare80 If you break ONE hot CFL bulb it will cost you $2500 to get the mercury vapor "residue"/partials... Just from the room you broke it in cleaned up to "safe levels"...

We're talking MEN IN HAZMAT SUITS!

It's been required in hospitals for decades now when mercury thermometers break.(heard it from a male nurse that's witnessed it)

People will look back on this as if we where playing with something similar to depleted uranium, It's fucking stupid.

[idontcare80]

@DackIsBack Oh no!!!!!!!

*idontcare80 has died*

My son has occupied the room where the bulb was broken since he was born, he is healthy and developing very well, in most ways more quickly than his peers. Watch this: watch?v=t88cY2Wy4xQ

Also, I converted my halogen desk lamp to LED, the light from it sucks. LEDs have very poor CRI. LEDs are also extremely expensive.

[DackIsBack]

@idontcare80

Well, That's a damn shame that bulb broke... You should get your place tested for dangerous levels of mercury in the environment.

Mercury easily passes through the brain blood barrier and rips it's way through brain tissues destroying neurons along the way.

Alzheimer disease sure sucks.

/watch?v=IHqVDMr9ivo

[idontcare80]

@DackIsBack I know what mercury does moron, there just isn't enough of it to in a single CFL to do any kind of real harm to anyone. Hell, I've known people that break those huge fluorescent tubes just for the hell of it, they never suffered any ill effect and those bulbs have MANY times the amount of mercury that CFLs have in them. BTW, I've never had a CFL just break and there are over 20 in my home. I broke the CFL just to see what was inside of it. Just stop the ignorant fear mongering.

[idontcare80]

"The vid you linked me, Read the comments."

I don't depend on YouTube comments for my information, thank you.

[AnduinX]

@idontcare80: There is no safe level of mercury, even small amounts cause neural degeneration. The damage small amounts of mercury cause over time can be subtle and easy to overlook. If somebody had an IQ of 140 before they broke the bulb, and an IQ of 135 afterwards, would you really be able to tell the difference? This is why saying 'I didn't notice a difference' fails at these things, the human taste test is inadequate for measuring these kinds of things.

[idontcare80]

@AnduinX Well, maybe you should worry about the mercury in the fish you eat and maybe you should worry about where that mercury came from.

Even if you throw a CFL in the trash there is net reduction in the amount of mercury that is released into the environment.

[GregWn]

@idontcare80 Please back up with facts.

[idontcare80]

@GregWn Google: Frequently Asked Questions Information on Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs (CFLs) and Mercury

It's a PDF from Energy Star.

[004ner]

@GregWn

CFL Bulbs Ingredients - ALL CFLS IN U.S.A ARE MADE IN CHINA

-.5 grams of mercury(nerveous system and neuron failure),

- white phosperous (deadly to lung tissue burns no contact istant lung cancer scares)

- below grade class container quality due to no regulation on Chinese manufacturers.

- below grade balast (bottom of bulb) explode, burn or leak mercury or phosperous into the air. many times without anyone knowing. it smells weird in here.

- more energy to make then savings!

[DackIsBack]

@idontcare80 That video you linked me was horrid... One of those "Everything Is OK, The Government Loves You And Has Your Best Interests At Heart, Go Back To Sleep" Channels...

READ THE COMMENTS BELOW!! Christ actually do some fucking research.

"watch?v=t88cY2Wy4xQ" The vid you linked me, Read the comments.

[Magiwyvern]

Dont forget about the mercury in your thermostat, your dental fillings, and thermometers that are already in your house.

[DrinkingTheMovie]

"Just Don't Drop It" Thats all it is folks. Don't drop the damn thing. Seeing how long these last, they may out live you and so you wont have to worry about taking them out.

[worryphree]

If it's wrong for the human body, it's wrong for the planet! Cfl's take more energy overall to manufactur, they are not made in the U.S., and the only thing recyclable is the glass. Did you see that guy breaking off the glass parts at the recycling center? How much mercury vapour do you think he's breathing in everyday? Kids knock over lamps and break the bulbs. I bet lots of people break 'em, and are ignorant to the hazard, so they don't clean it up. Who could afford a $2,000 clean up bill?

[vegasrenie]

Like people drop them on purpose, right? I think the word "accident" would apply in such a case.

[Mandalore06]

Damn straight.

[Mandalore06]

I still don't like taking the risk. I'll never by another one. I'll go back to oil lamps first.

[fletcho11]

LOL , i HAVE SOME OLD LEAD PAINT , YOU SHOULD USE IT ON THE WALLS IN YOUR KIDS ROOM , JUST TAKE THE PAINT CHIPS THAT FALL OFF TO THE SAME PLACE AS THE LIGHT BULBS ....

[jecwhiz]

Another thing, google "Whitehorse house fire" which is related to Compact Fluorescent fires, there's actually more than just one report of this, I have seen and read about others.

[MLBinwa]

There is a great machine that your community can buy to recycle CFL's.

check out communityenvironmentalliance (dot) com.

The town of Carefree close to where I live has some and the Recycling guy said they work great.

This issue should become a top issue for all recycling programs throughout the world where CFL's are sold.

[dawnhilton]

Boy I just changed all my lights today, now I'm shitting myself having to tough the damn things in ten years!

[flamesforfun]

Absolutely no warning on the box by the way about how to handle a broken bulb, what to do if you expose yourself to it, etc. Although, I heard the amount of mercury in CFLs is around 5mg compared to 500mg in an old thermometer.

[flamesforfun]

Yeah I just broke a CFL WHILE IT WAS TURNED ON about 5 hours ago. I freaked the hell out (I already knew they had mercury in them), ran out of the room (while holding my breath). Afterward, not knowing how to clean it up properly, I just picked up the broken pieces bare-handed and through them all in the trash.

[sheaner18]

what happens with lava lamps??

[TheGeek1028]

Lava lamps use wax. I think the same kind as candles.

[Mandalore06]

What does that have to do with anything? Just curious.

[TheGeek1028]

It was a reply to sheaner18's comment.

[lovesflsun]

So, I have to bring my broken bulb to the Hazardous waste center? I don't think so, it's going right in the trash!

[noob995]

LOL I agree what if there are no waste centers near your home. Would anyone really drive miles(remember the price of gas these days) to dispose of one bulb. In the trash.

[meowskull]

yeah i know this is fucking bullshit, it says that they save money but it also cost money to drive it all the way to the hazardous waste facility and back! fuck these bulbs!

[YTXP0]

Bring the bulbs to Ace Hardware or Home Depot and those stores will recycle the bulb for free--no need to locate a hazardous waste facility!

[meowskull]

well that helps a bit, thanks.

[crazybeavers155]

i agree

[YTXP0]

If you put the bulb in the trash, it will poison the landfills and cause disturbances to our food and water supply.

The mercury content from many bulbs can be harmful to the waste management plants' workers. This means that the government will have to take more money from your taxes to clean up your mess that could be prevented by recycling your bulbs for free.

This video doesn't mention that you can bring your bulbs to Ace Hardware or Home Depot and those stores will recycle the bulb for free!

[crazybeavers155]

its better to use L E DS THEY LAST LONGER THEN CFLS

[jasongilmou]

maby if that dumb ass didn't turn on all the lights just to walk down his hall way in the middle of the day we wouldn't have this problem "and others like him"

[choqueras]

You are right, americans are really bad at saving energy.

Most of them keep the shutters and curtains down all day while turning on the lights in their home instead of using the natural light that come throu the windows. and leave all or most of the lights in the house on even thou they are not in that room...

[HowToDoDude]

wow u got that right im American and every thing u said is true

[crazybeavers155]

@ choqueras have u ever herd of privetse and too much light can be bad for ur eyes

[sumbunnyelse]

Google this:

How Many Congressmen Does It Take To Screw The American Public With A Light Bulb?

[Greg260146]

It is astonishing that there is no law under the constitution or otherwise to silence or incacerate snake oil salesmen as with Al Gore & his inconvenient lies. Or for that matter Congress for having colluded in Al Gore's misrepresentation & unfounded drivvel about global warming founded on absolutely no sound science but signed off by bought & paid for grant funded so called scientists! Take One example besides these dud bulbs, in 1945 there were 4-5,000 polar bears there are now about 25,000!!

[marylandturbo]

So I have to burn up a bunch of gas to drive to the dump (10 miles away) to give them my burn out light bulbs? Typical congress thinking only about the end result and not thinking about the means to achieve it.

[kieskaleidoscope]

Interesting... If California gets another "big one" and all those bulbs break open... aside from everything else we will be facing, mercury poisoning too? Ya think China might be aware of this?

[H66335495]

We must be the stupidest nation on earth, We just do what ever they say. And without any say in the matter.

What other freedoms are we going to give up for what it termed Saving the Environment.

If they were so intent on that why not go to third world country's and see if they are going to clean up their messes, As in Mexico,India,Malaysia,Thailand­,Guyana.

I could go on and on But it seems no one has a plan for that. But we have to use a Crappy Bulb made in China.

But Crap from China is JUNK!

[H66335495]

Stupid is As Stupid does!. I still don't see where is such a good thing for the environment when you know most will end up in the landfill.

How many people will take the trouble to take them?

Most is not all of them are make in China, They are cheaply made and do not last long so you buy more of them at a higher cost.

Does it not consume energy to make them?

So where is all the cost savings?.

[hebaroxy]

Am I the only person on this planet who has broken one of these bulbs BEFORE I knew how dangerous they are? (I doubt it.) Though most of these do last a long time, some are defective (made in China, of course) and burn out quickly. In our little town, all the bulbs end up in the land fill. There is no recycling for them here.

[MomYetNot]

I'm hoping that LED bulbs are improved and marketed soon, because they're an even a better solution than CF bulbs. In the meantime, we certainly could turn out lights when we leave a room and only use as the lights that we need. I find it ironic that we're going to have to burn lots of fossil fuels to drive our little burned out lightbulbs to the recycling center.

(my previous comment was meant as a reply to another comment on another page... oops!)

[seniorsungod]

Just use a little care and look at the big picture. BTW, what have you been doing with regular florescent tube? They have many times the mercury that CF bulbs have inside.

[michaeldc2b]

can you substantiate this comment. beacause i've never heard about mercury in incandescent bulbs before. besides, where is the logic in treating the new CF bulbs like the hazardous material that it is, if there's much less mercury than in the older CF bulbs? and yes, i do realize that we're talking about the government. the government and logic can be like oil and water.

[seniorsungod]

I never said anything about mercury in incandescent bulbs. It is in the emissions from coal burning power plants. Incandescent bulbs use 3-5 times as much power (coal) and therefore cause 3-5 times as much mercury to be deposited in the environment. And older florescent (not CF) tubes had much more mercury than new CF bulbs (or for that matter, newer florescent tubes). I never said any mercury was good for you. My point is you are not seeing the real level of risk and putting it in perspective.

[SHADOWBOXERBAYBEE]

Has ANYONE here witnessed these new bulbs go BAD?? I have!! I was in the livingroom, John had replaced the 3-Way bulb with this cr@p of a bulb which gave LITTLE light though it stated it was 100 watt. . . ANYWAY, I heard this wissing sound, yes WISSING sound, then SMOKE began to billow up through the lamp shade and we both thought the LAMP had finally died. I unplugged it and took it outside. IT WAS THE BULB!! it can cause FIRES, HELLO??? I've stocked up on the regulars, 48 and counting.

[seniorsungod]

Why would you replace a 3-way bulb with a CF that is not made for a 3-way socket. No wonder it burned!

[SHADOWBOXERBAYBEE]

Gee, this happened nearly 3 years ago and just MAYBE the darn box didn't SAY OMG DON'T DO IT! I know, why don't YOU ask my late husband why HE replaced a 3-Way with this crap? The lamp only gives out what the bulb can take, as it did the regular bulbs with no 3-Way option. DUH! And GEE what about the consumers using DIMMER switches. It sounds like you have a sizable amount of your 401K invested in this product. Switch over to Apple. lolol!

[seniorsungod]

SHADOWBOXERBAYBEE, I have no horse in this race (certainly no part of my 401k that I am aware of). The way florescent lights (CF bulbs or conventional tubes) work is fundamentally different from incandescent bulbs (either conventional or halogen). The filament in an incandescent bulb simply gets so hot from the current flowing through it that it puts out some visible light (like the inside of a toaster only brighter). The amount of visible light is only 2 to 3% of the energy used.

[seniorsungod]

A florescent bulb is much more complicated. Current flowing through a partial vacuum of mercury vapor causes the electrons on the mercury atoms to be excited and give off ultraviolet light (invisible to us). The inside of the tube is coated with phosphor (like a TV tube). The ultraviolet light striking the phosphor causes it to glow in visible light. In order to start this (and to limit the current flowing), there is an electronic circuit built into the CF bulb base.

[seniorsungod]

That is why they cost more. Florescents give off 3-4 times as much visible light as incandescents for the power used. The "color" of the light can be controlled by the phosphor used. Old fashioned "cool white" tubes give off green light; daylight tubes are more blue like sunlight. Incandescents are orange. BTW, I estimate I now have about 25 CF bulbs in my house and garage. I have had one fail in 5 years (nothing dramatic, it just took too long to come on).

[SHADOWBOXERBAYBEE]

thank you for your information.

[R0ck1nb0x]

By not using CFL, you will use more electricity from a power plant that usually burns coal. When power is generated buring coal, greater amounts of mercury is vented from the power plant that what is in the light bulb. So less mercury pollution occurs by using a CFL bulb. So switch electrical provider to a green energy choice such as wind or solar power. I myself use wind, with CFL and have no type of radio interference. So everthing you hear on YouTube is not the total truth. Go Research info!

[panthercitymom]

Our kids will be the ones to suffer when everyone just starts throwing them away and the mercury gets into the water supply.

[littleotis101]

Ok so we are to buy these bulbs to save the planet, so in the meantime, it could kill off the humans by dropping it in your house and mercury spreading through your home. So after these kill our pets and US, at least the planet will be saved right??? I will not be using these in my house, Ill light a candle first!!! These laws are killing us. What will we get arrested by the bulb police if we dont buy these bulbs? ILL BE STOCKIN UP ON REG. BULBS STARTING NOW.

[GMULEMAN]

Did you not listen? You will be responsible for releasing MORE mercury into the atmosphere by using your incandescent lights then by suing CF's I guess there is only one thing to call you. BABY KILLER

[quietrioter]

how is it that a democratic government is FORCING everyone in the US to buy the whatever happened to "LIBERTY and justice for all" if people are forced to buy these bulbs then the government is on its way to a facist state and someday some guy is gonna stand up to for the people then the president is gonna have him gunned down. I agree with oz22verizon its all to reduce the population i bet the govenrment officals wont have to but them. this is just to fuel the "final solution"

[quietrioter]

the final solution for the Bush administration is to kill off the homeless this is the "final solution" of just the guys in charge of this country the eradication of the American citizens. The only way to save your lives and money DON'T BUY THE GOD DAMN BULB STICK WITH THE EDISON MODEL!!! I'LL NEVER BE CAUGHT DEAD WITH ONE OF THOSE LIGHTING MY HOUSE!!!

[GMULEMAN]

Did you not listen? You will be responsible for releasing MORE mercury into the atmosphere by using your incandescent lights then by suing CF's I guess there is only one thing to call you. BABY KILLER

[quietrioter]

well then you use them but im not gonna expose my future kids to these light bulbs or any kids. Someone is gonna just throw away one of those bulbs causeing poisoning YOUR water supply fine ill but those long ass tube lights douche

[Quantumerik]

Yes, that's obvious... but we're talking about my HOME first and foremost. I want to keep Hazmat situations out of my HOME. So i'm sticking with incandescents until LED bulb technology comes out of its infancy. Yer kinda rude feller, ain't ye?

[crazybeavers155]

i agree

[seniorsungod]

And I hope you don't have any fillings in your teeth... they are a mixture of silver and mercury!

[MomYetNot]

It's true, but dentists are replacing silver mercury fillings with white, non-mercury fillings now.

[seniorsungod]

To MomYetNot, my point is hundreds of millions of people (maybe billions worldwide) have mercury fillings and we are not dropping like flies. It wasn't very long ago that all alkaline batteries contained mercury. I'm glad that people are concerned, but common sense should prevail. Burning more coal to light incandescent bulb and producing many times more mercury in the air is a bigger, longer lasting danger (not to mention more CO2, sulfur compounds, and soot).

[michaeldc2b]

hwere have you been seniorsungod? what do you mean we're 'not dropping like flies'? the U.S. is dealing with record number of cases of MS, lupus, RA, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, maningitis, autism (i could go on). do you believe that things that kill us quickly are bad, and that things that kill us slowly are okay? did you realize that there are 37 industrialized countries in the world and that we are # 37 on the list of healthiest countries?

[seniorsungod]

michaeldc2b, can YOU substantiate that any of these diseases are related to mercury? It is a potent neurotoxin and the effects are well documented, but none of the illnesses you have listed have been shown by any solid studies to be caused by low level mercury exposure. The reason our health is so low is that industry (coal, chem, etc.) has been able to block any substantive regulations to protect public health before profits. THEY don't want you to use less electricity!

[michaeldc2b]

my apologies to you sir. i didn't realize you were looking at the 'big picture'. i thought you'd implied that there was more mercury in incandescent bulbs as compared to the newer CF bulbs.

furthermore, several legitimate sources have documented the remarkable increase in (mostly) neurologically oriented diseases since the mid eighties, which is coincidentally (or not) when thimerasol (mercury based 'preservative') began showing up in mandatory immunizations. you'd have to read the studies.

[crazybeavers155]

if they had a cleaner runnning power plant we would not have this problem water powered plants like the "water wheel" and the "windmill"

[seniorsungod]

You are all overreacting. ALL florescent bulbs have mercury in them (a much larger amount than CF bulbs). Here is another surprise for you, the generation of electricity using coal (the overwhelming majority of power plants) emits TONS of mercury into the air which you end up eating in your food (especially that healthful fish). During the life of a CF bulb, many times LESS mercury enters the environment than from the use of common tungsten filament bulbs, even including the that in the CF bulb.

[Quantumerik]

I'm expected to take mercury into my home and expose it to my family... to very slightly reduce overall emissions? What's my personal risk to reward ratio? Thanks, but I'll find other ways to conserve energy than by allowing mercury into my house.

[SgtTai]

Do not screw in by the BULB either, trust me, mine just broke and luckly I got cleaned up in less than five minutes

[Quantumerik]

I also will avoid buying these bulbs. I am waiting for the LED technology bulbs to become brighter and cheaper before I begin replacing my incandescents. These CFL piss me off. What idiot can expect the general public to travel to a hazardous waste processing facility??? No, my friend. These are ALL GOING INTO LANDFILLS and our food and water are going to be mercury poisoned. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY and the proponents of this technology should all be reprimanded.

[vikingscool]

I am strongly agree with you! You are smart, because you educated from others! Great job!

I want to show you I boycotted since I saw

the video that immediately to boycott due

I saw deaf dies by mercury bulb that were broken glass. Yikes!

watch?v=oigyeq1wrf4

Unfortunately, the video only ASL (American

Sign Langugage) is not subtitled

or voiced.

[GMULEMAN]

How many more soldiers have to die for your right to waste energy? Do you follow the EPA guidelines in disposing of batteries, glue, paint, paint thinner, thermometers.

Did you not listen? You will be responsible for releasing MORE mercury into the atmosphere by using your incandescent lights then by suing CF's I guess there is only one thing to call you. BABY KILLER

[Quantumerik]

You make many assumptions and take an unnecessarily rude stance. Whatever it is you assume I am... you're definitely an antisocial jerk.

[crazybeavers155]

that what thry want u to do

[KittKattKlub]

yea & "they" keep telling us the minute amts of mercury in vaccines are "not a worry"

such BS !!

[oz22verizon]

GE,theres your red flag!the largerst nuclear contractor in the world!they contain A LOT of mercury & they cause all kinds of cancer, this is a deliberate act by the bilderberg group & cfr who run the government to"thin out the herd"by the way there is no global warming crisis,thats a scam by the gov,see alex jones or just hit up aerosol spraying delibertly done by the government, its all to kill off the masses and reduce the population,i will not use these bulbs ill use a freekin oil lamp first!