The Pet Sounds/Sgt. Pepper Connection-Part 2

[imau2ber]

Using the adjective "Timeless" . . .

I cannot label more than three songs on Sgt. Pepper as timeless: "With A Little Help . . .," "Getting Better," and "When I'm Sixty-Four."

However, on Pet Sounds, I can truly state that EVERY song -- all these nearly 50 years later -- is timeless.

Pet Sounds is the greatest pop album of all time.

[msanm5]

@imau2ber Your comment is very dumb.

Both albums are great, but Sgt. Pepper is greater according to the definition of the word. Sgt. Pepper is timeless.

[ScoobGruber]

I think Pet sounds is a better album generally but the songs from the sgt pepper such as a day in a life and strawberry fields are better than any song on Pet Sounds.

[GreenLightMe]

Props to anyone who catches Brian say, "I was high off downers, then I pulled my car over" He was driving on downers, lol classic, THATS ROCK AND ROLL

[JackKlompus13]

SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND and PET SOUNDS are two of the greatest albums ever made, and both equally important and astonishing work. However, I feel that SGT. PEPPER is better. Does anyone else agree?

[MIKZ562]

both were great albums but 4 sum reason i prefer pet sounds :)..i mean the whole side 2 of sgt. pepper's was horrible except 4a day in the life.

[catchrnthkudzu]

One can hear a marked difference in Paul's bass choices after he dug Pet Sounds. While excellent, Sgt Pepper's "concept" is "we're not the Beatles" while Pet Sounds is a brilliantly executed near-universal coming of age, love and loss narrative. Brian's plaintive falsetto on Caroline No can make me cry from the longing in life like morning sun sparkling on the St Augustine surf.

[arouska]

whether or not there is a bias in these videos (I didn't see any), the fact remains that the two bands did inspire each other, and Brian Wilson was the only songwriter that could sonically compete with the beatles in their creative heyday with George Martin. Both albums are extremely different but the two bands did inspire each other, and if you asked Paul McCartney what his favorite album was, he'll tell you it was Pet Sounds.

[phreaker92]

whats that song ? 3:55 ?????? i need that instrumental version!!!!!!!!!!

[red35rob]

@phreaker92 That is HERE TODAY from the Pet Sounds album. All of the backing tracks are on the Pet Sounds box set.

[Rawego]

so Paul came back from a trip to America with the idea for a militaristic music band concept. how appropriate :))

[TheMaceymacreary]

imagine a mccartney-wilson album in their primes

[nokturnal5647]

@TheMaceymacreary That would surely be the greatest piece of music ever created.

[DAYD111]

The Beach Boys and The Beatles are gods of music. Both bands influenced each other. That is crazy!

[johnowensjr1234]

Why oh why couldn't "SMiLE" have been released?

[Seej1982]

@johnowensjr1234 There will be a box set with the original SMiLE sessions released later this year.

[MattHatter]

Good gosh I've seen so much of this footage throughout my Beatles/'60s loving life. Clips from "The Compleat Beatles" and stuff like that. But wow, listen to the rhythm track of "With A Little Help From My Friends" at the very end and you can hear total Beach Boys, something I never noticed with the track before.

[gfrgtr]

rubber soul inspired pet sounds and that inspried sgt. pepper. but inbetween sounds and pepper revolver came out and that beats both of them

[RobertWaltz]

@gfrgtr Nah.....Today and Summer Days (and Nights) actually have to be recognized as precursors to all of it. Those two albums, in the context of this discussion, not to mention "The Little Girl I Once Knew", began what would have been concluded with the release of SMiLE in 1967.

[Daycron66]

The Pet Sounds album featured a simple staccato piano riff in a few of the songs. Paul McCartney took that riff and ran with it. Penny Lane, A Little Help From My Friends, Fixing A Hole and It's Getting Better all use that riff.

I always thought that the Sgt. Pepper concept was Paul's attempt to divert the American public's attention away from John Lennon's "more popular than Jesus Christ" comment. It certainly worked.

[aebelmonter]

brilliant

[Karateworm]

I've always thought far too much attention has been focused on Brian Wilson when it comes to the Beach Boys. Yes, he powered the group for many years and was an incredible genius... but many of the Beach Boy's best songs were written by the other members, especially Dennis Wilson.

[greeneyedjim2007]

I personally have found Pet Sounds to be more musically complicated than Pepper. I'm not saying it is a better album, it just has more complex chords and instrumental arrangements. If you consider that most of Pepper was divised by two of the beatles, Pet Sounds was mainly created by Brian himself and featured the rest of the beach boys only as session musicians.

[KRAZYCorps]

I didn't know about the bass harmonica story... that's quite fasinating.

[menoziinrevoltado]

It's official: Brian Wilson, lead singer of The Beach Boys was facepalm'd, pwn'd and finish-him'd by John Lennon from The Beatles.

[peteredens1]

great work earcandy! I knew most of this stuff...but I think all those who still think that the 60s were about Stones and Beatles, they have some catching up to do.

I grew up in holland, and when I heard SLOOP JOHN B at around '66/67, I was was blown away. Since, I have seen the boys 4 times. The whole world knows the work of the Beatles, but the work of Brian and the boys is yet to discover for many.

[pmoyer50]

Never was crazy about the Beach Boys. Completely infatuated by the music of Brian Wilson. Without him the rest of the boys would have been pumping gas. He was the genius and anyone who thinks that Mike Love is not a jerk is long overdue for a reality check. Really? And that's reality! Guess I deeply frown on what he did to Smile. Try sixth lettering yourself for a change while replacing that dirty diaper. All the best!

[04116404]

lennon and maccartney were trying to be nice with brian,but they knew that pet sounds was a failure,and a product that the americans were trying to compare with them....

[Eeohippus]

I think it very arrogant and presumptuous of you to say, ...they knew that pet sounds was a failure,and a product that the americans...

Who the hell are you, George Martin? For you to say what they knew is actually laughable and I find myself just shaking my head.

[songcycle]

Pet Sounds is an aural LSD experience.

Don't just make these assumptions by ear alone. The production, the instrumentation, the lyrical content, the solidarity of the album; everything about it was new and fresh. It was the first hi-fi album. It's like Bach went into a studio with the most amazing producer ever, wrote about very lofty subjects and then handed it to The Beach Boys.

It's produced so well that it sounds like an ocean of sound. It was all recorded live and it's still perfect.

[johnboymac2000]

@04116404 YOU ARE A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG

[Eeohippus]

I don't know why there is a competition to try and convince anyone that one band or album is better than the other.

What I'm thankful for is that they were inspired by one another and the ENTIRE world enjoys the benefits. It's really that simple.

Personally, being a California girl, I have an innate need to live and die with Brian, but The Beatles are so effin amazing that they leave me speachless almost daily. As I said, thank God that they inspired one another! And thank God for drugs!

[nerfballs2000]

I really wish the Beach Boys would have done a film for Pet Sounds or Smile.

[rranswerman]

Very cool. Good job.

[AllTheNuttyBits]

Smile would've been in par with Sgt Peppers if it came out.

[fedtho]

Great, great, great work this compilation. Someone should do a full length movie with the same idea.

Brian somehow is more emotional when he talks about the effect of Strawberry fields on him than Paul when he merely qualifies as "clever" what Brian did on Pet sounds... either he doesn't want to admit how good he really thinks Pet sounds is, or the Beatles were actually so involved in their own creative process that Pet Sounds was to them like another athletes record to break...

[torman9421]

Paul has actually admitted to crying while listening to the vocal harmonies on "Pet Sounds" and buying each of his children copies of the record; I don't think the clip really reveals how much respect he had for the Beach Boys.

[fedtho]

Thanks a LOT for clarifying this; I feel better knowing Paul was as moved as about everyone else by the beauties of Pet Sounds!

Cheers!

[runeguldberg]

Calling Mike Love a jerk wasn't much respect.

[johnboymac2000]

@runeguldberg Mike Love dosent deserve any respect especailly now as he is kissing up to "Smile" after slagging it off for years and yes MIKE IS A JERK!!!

[shway05]

pepper was the greatest album ever written

[Screbin]

agreed. the whole album works together to make one awesome piece of art.

[eoras77]

what is the name of the band at 4:25???

[breezebro]

Paul says they are the Morton Frasier Harmonica Band.

[Bisola4e]

somebody knows hich is the song at 2:46?

please...

[MattTC1028]

wouldnt it be nice.

[JFPhil]

Thank you very much for this wonderful compilation! Wonderfully done!

[BB45s]

Very cool to hear Paul and Brian brag on each other...

{Click BB45s for rare Beach Boys video archive}

[0hNoNotHimAgain]

The finishing touches of Pet Sounds were recorded about the same time that The Beatles began recording Revolver. Considering that Rubber Soul blew Brian Wilson's mind (as Brian put it), I should imagine that Revolver would have completely demolished his brain! And yet, the album considered by many to be The Beatles' preeminent work goes unmentioned in these interviews. Has Brian ever said anything about Revolver in an interview?

[embran]

yes, that's interesting. I have heard plenty of Brian's interviews but never saying anything about revolver...

[bigcypress74]

Out of all my reading & viewing regarding both groups I've never come across Brian speaking about Revolver, or any of the The Beach Boys for that matter. It is always the influence of Rubber Soul that I come across. Maybe it was because they became so engulfed in the Pet Sounds and Smile projects and therefore they had no time to give attention to current music, until Sgt Pepper and Monterey occurred. I'm sure they felt Revolver was wonderful, much of it sounds similar to Rubber Soul.

[M3town3]

Pet Sounds is better than the "r" album stupid!

[0hNoNotHimAgain]

"Better" is in the ear of the beholder, my friend.

IMO, to compare Revolver to Pet Sounds is to compare apples to oranges. Each in its own way is a delicious creation from a Higher Source.

The mind-altering creativity of Revolver propelled rock music upwards into the direction of the psychedelic stratosphere. ("Tomorrow Never Knows" was actually the first Revolver tune The Beatles tackled!) By contrast, Pet Sounds emanates a heart & soul perhaps never exhibited on an album released (cont'd)

[0hNoNotHimAgain]

by a " 'pop' " group previously. ("Don't Talk [Put Your Head on My Shoulder]" brings tears to my eyes!)

Aside from a couple of Indian instruments, The Beatles played all their own instruments on Revolver. By contrast, in the crafting of Pet Sounds, Brian Wilson masterfully led "the Wrecking Crew" as his own personal orchestra in a manner that amazed everyone involved.

Not "better." Apple & oranges. At least that's my 2¢ worth.

[Beatzeppe]

R for rubber soul??? Yes it is! R for Revolver??? Kiss my ass!

[M3town3]

Pet Sounds is the most influental album ever. Then of course the Beatles had use for it, because Pet Sounds is the greatest album ever.

[groovebassist]

I was thinking the same thing the whole time!! Rubber Soul is a great album but Revolver to me is a better album. Thats where Geoff Emerick really got involved and broke things open with his revolutionary engineering

[mecaesare]

@0hNoNotHimAgain I don't think, he ever dared to

[sgtsounds]

Thank you for posting an un-biased video of this very exciting period in rock n roll history. There is a clip somewhere of Bruce Johnston speaking about the Pet Sounds listening party, that Keith Moon put together in London 1966, where John & Paul showed up to listen to Pet Sounds. I love the thought of that whole evening occurring and wish I could've been there. This video is excellent. Its a great compilation of the music makers speaking about what happened during that time. Great stuff!

[earcandyfilms]

Really?! I was looking for clips about the Pet Sounds listening party, but couldn't find any. I ended up saving that for the pending sequel: about the fallacy of Pepper being "influenced" by Smile. I have footage (both video and audio) from the April 67 meeting of Paul and Brian that will be included.

[ArtemisFlyingV]

@sgtsounds I believe this is very biased..........never ending praise for Pet Sounds and for The Beach Boys. None for The Beatles it's as if the fact that Pet Sounds inspired Pepper makes it better than Pepper. It even makes Pepper seem like a "bad" album. And I just find that to be complete and total bullshit.

[20thcenturyboy77]

Sweet...thanks for uploading this,,,